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6:12 PM
Wow... web security is tricky
 
@skiwi Awesomely awful.
@QPaysTaxes Unless we're talking goto, in which it's equal.
 
goto in a language is only valid if that language exists solely to create dinosaurs in your garden
2
 
@QPaysTaxes ASM
@QPaysTaxes ASM is a very serious language, but no longer required. We can do the same in C or when that's not quick enough, use FPGAs.
ASM isn't depraved.
depravedness > depravedness
Old != Depraved
It's still difficult for me, but that's because I never had the need to fully comprehend it. I probably should learn it sometime to get more proficient at many other languages.
@QPaysTaxes Have you tried C?
Definitely.
 
@QPaysTaxes What about Python? :D
@QPaysTaxes It's old, but it's still updated.
In fact, 3.5 is coming out this summer, and it includes some cool new features.
 
6:27 PM
@EthanBierlein Is one of them goto?
 
@SirPython Nope. But async and await will be added.
Along with the @ operator, for matrix multplication.
And the interpreter will now be aware of VMs.
 
@EthanBierlein How is that supposed to work?
 
@Mast I don't know the internal workings, but if you're running a Python interpreter on a Virtual Machine, the interpreter is aware of the fact that the program is running in a virtual environment.
 
Which is relevant why?
 
No idea.
@Mast Go read it's PEP python.org/dev/peps/pep-0486
Is it a square shaped learning curve?
What about a wall?
 
6:37 PM
@EthanBierlein Doesn't sound very Pythonic to me, but oh well.
 
@QPaysTaxes And I bet it isn't.
@QPaysTaxes Althought the learning curve of some things are, a sloped, 89 degree wall.
Now stop tempting me to learn languages. I just downloaded Go last night.
And then Haskell.
And now I want to learn Factor
When I'm done with Go, then I will.
Haskell was, too, weird for me to learn.
Anyways, brb
gonna get lunch
 
On a more serious note, how important is candidate score for a first election?
 
@Mast since having 20k is a part of candidate score and some badges aren't even reachable.... probably not so much
 
Yea, that's what I thought.
 
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Q: Get list from database in 3 layer model vb.net. am i using correct Architecture?

user3475722I'm working on some testing project. But for some reason i think im doining something wrong with the architecture. I create a simple example to show what i mean. Database class Imports DAO Imports System.Data.SqlClient Public Class PatientDB Dim connectionString As String = "Data Source=...

 
6:45 PM
I'm making a query with all CR regulars anyway, just for fun.
 
I would not score 40/40 ...
 
@rolfl Nope.
38
 
linkey?
 
Almost done.
 
6:50 PM
6 missing badges, count some down for not even 10k rep...
maybe 30 / 40 max...
 
http://data.stackexchange.com/codereview/query/edit/329964
Input: 9357,14363,41243,11582,37660,62850,52915,31562,51786,22222,31503,29371,53251,59481,32231
@Vogel612 You hit 23
 
why is Duga in there??ß
 
@Vogel612 Because she's a regular. Didn't want to discriminate.
 
I find it interesting who you left off your list ;-)
 
6:54 PM
@rolfl I didn't intend to leave anyone off the list. Did I miss anyone?
 
@Mast non-chat people
 
and chat people
 
Ofc, as stated, these are the regulars.
In chat.
 
Loki, Edward, Syborg, Marc-Andre...
 
@Mast Atleast I beat @Duga...
 
6:55 PM
Mat, Lyle, etc.
 
also I don't see janos..
 
Oh darn, I forgot the mugs.
 
nor jeroen.
 
Also Hosch250.
 
Mat and Lyle hit 36/35
Ah, Jeroen and Hosch are regulars in chat as well. This is going to be a long list.
 
6:56 PM
~confused
you mean 36/40, right?
 
@Mast Is "CappedRep" how many times someone has rep-capped in a day?
 
@SirPython no.
the election caps rep at 20k
 
@Mast Ooh! I'm in there!
 
since that's where you unlock the last privilege on a graduated site
 
@Vogel612 No, Mat hits 36 and Lyle 35
 
6:58 PM
that makes sense :D
 
@rolfl How would Í run a query on all CR users?
 
@Mast Use another query to get all the users.
 
@SirPython And Q.
 
@Mast Drop the Where u.Id in (##UserIds##)?
 
@EthanBierlein Here's to hoping it doesn't time-out.
 
7:01 PM
You could always use TOP n.
 
Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding.
 
@Mast What's that? My name is on there
 
@Mast Wait, how did you determine what user Ids to put in there?
 
@skiwi Candidate score.
@EthanBierlein Internet.
 
@Mast ??
 
@rolfl Thank you, exactly what I was looking for.
That's way cleaner.
 
@rolfl why the outspoken badge as criterion? Outspoken ~= Chat regular?
 
I never expected I'd be Nr 96 on that list. How did I ever end up in the list at all...
 
outspoken and a small avid userbase
 
This sounds like it'd be better on codereview.stackexchange.com. — chris85 22 secs ago
 
7:13 PM
Not that I'm running for mod, but I like stats.
A lot.
 
I wonder who is all running for the position of mod.
 
@EthanBierlein You'll see tomorrow.
 
There are a couple of people of which I'm certain will be running, a couple of which I'm certain they'll not and a whole lot in the grey area in between. So, tomorrow.
 
@rolfl CappedRep is just in there for the fun?
 
7:19 PM
21 mins ago, by Vogel612
since that's where you unlock the last privilege on a graduated site
20k
 
But CappedRep is 20x 200 = 4K? I'm missing something?
 
@skiwi No, it's the amount of rep a certain User has, capped at 20
As in 20k
 
Aaaaah...
 
Since higher is irrelevant for elections.
 
That explains it
 
7:23 PM
If you look at previous elections, they'll either list the reputations (rounded to whole thousands) or state >20k
So in the case of Code Review, we have 11 people >20k.
palacsint is one badge away from a perfect score.
 
7:44 PM
@chris85, sorry wasn't aware of codereview, thanks — nekojira 29 secs ago
 
8:00 PM
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Q: Is it too awful code?

viavadIn my task I have to pass some data from one model to another. And these models contain lists. I did it in the following way: List<VisualProcess> vProcesses = new ArrayList<VisualProcess>(); for (Process process : processList) { VisualProcess vProcess = new VisualProcess(); ...

 
@janos Didn't bother with the title? ^^
 
@CaptainObvious Is it too awful title?
 
@QPaysTaxes This argument has been held before, no need to bring it up again.
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Q: Encouraging people to explain downvotes

ChrisFI used to get "upset" (though that is too strong a term) when I got downvoted without comment. If my answer isn't good enough then I'd like to know why. Not only does it improve the answer for the OP but it improves my knowledge too. Where the down-vote has been explained I've found it useful & ...

I enjoy being able to down-vote posts I don't care for without worrying about retaliation. And I really enjoy being able to leave honest comments without worrying that they'll be justifiably interpreted as evidence that I've down-voted. I would not like to see the two systems linked. — Shog9 ♦ Jun 28 '09 at 19:36
Or you could just tell us what brought up your frustration, which would be more fruitful than complaining about an honest system.
What's up?
 
I regularly discourage people from commenting on their downvtes.
because it leads to discussions in comments that don't belong
 
@rolfl That ^^
 
8:14 PM
the downvote button is clearly marked.
if you want a critique, then post your answer as a question, and get it the way you are supposed to get it.
@QPaysTaxes wrong
comments are not for that
I think you're misunderstanding me ;-)
Comments are not a place to discuss answers. Use chat. Comments are for temporary plces to request clarifications, or other items that are constructive.
@QPaysTaxes that quote is from here:
and it is incomplete:
- Criticisms which do not add anything constructive ("-1, see previous comments you scallywag!"); instead, down-vote (and provide or up-vote a better answer if appropriate);
don't comment if you can't be constructive... and there is no requirement to comment, ever
11 mins ago, by QPaysTaxes
It's hardly an argument when everyone agrees
Oh... I was confused by that previous statement
no, don't.
if it is worth a downvote, then, yes
hang on
If you downvote, there is no obligation to comment.... you appear to believe there is an obligation
That is what I am trying to correct here.
No, there is not
Well, you're wrong when you think people who downvote should also comment
 
@QPaysTaxes Downvoting is helping people.
Getting rep isn't the end goal.
 
0
Q: Borland C++ error: Undefined function 'FindFirstFileEx'

zazaGetting this error when trying to use the function FindFirstFileEx and other windows file management functions in Borland C++. I already included windows.h, what else do I have to do?

 
@rolfl ^^ Nuke
 
8:29 PM
@QPaysTaxes - answers are not the place to be wrong.
if an answer is wrong, or broken, then downvote it, and move on
 
brb, gonna go outside for a bit.
 
4 mins ago, by QPaysTaxes
Sure, now they know it's bad, but they can't fix anything until they know why.
would you downvote for a missing semicolon?
(in an answer)?
 
That's a little extreme
 
Which answer got downvoted, @QPaysTaxes?
@QPaysTaxes No you wouldn't
Hmmm... time for me to "eat crow".
I have been assuming you're talking about downvoted answers.... are you?
or are you talking about questions?
when I checked your profile, all I saw was the downvoted answer.... now I see there's a downvoted question more recently
Meh, people downvote brainfuck questions because brainfuck
 
People downvote because of reasons.
There are so many reasons why somebody could downvote, there's no telling where it starts and ends.
 
8:36 PM
people probably downvoted your modulo answer because it lacks conviction, and is fluff.
> I'd love to review this code when I can actually understand it.
> What? Maybe I'm just being dumb, but I can't figure this out for the life of me
 
I've seen people downvote because they didn't like my lack of back-up in my answer on a 'primarily opinion based' question. Totally valid, but the comments didn't help me writing a better answer.
In the end, I just deleted the answer and figured I never should've written it.
 
Well, I still stand by the fact that there is never any obligation or expectation to comment on any downvote on any post.
I would prefer people to not comment on downvotes on questions, and I would strongly prefer if people did not comment on downvoted answers.
if you are voting to close a question, or you can help correct it, then yes.
@QPaysTaxes Oh, that disagrees with your previous statements
 
@QPaysTaxes It wasn't a bad answer. It was a relatively good answer to a relatively bad question.
 
31 mins ago, by QPaysTaxes
It's hardly an argument when everyone agrees
 
@rolfl At least we've established that isn't true. So this conversation wasn't void.
 
8:40 PM
Yeah, it's your sweeping and unfounded generalizations you are very fond of that get you in deep water.
 
0
Q: N-Layer using MEF dependency injection on MVC project

BrunoLMI'm trying to create a "perfect" generic solution structure for MVC (5.2.3.0) projects using MEF. Currently my solution looks like this. Core layer contains generic classes that could be used in any project Data layer contains a ApplicationContext (: DbContext) and models Repositories layer ...

 
I can't remember the number of times I've cleaned up Meta. There were still so many questions using tags improperly. I'm also still 49 edits from Copy Editor.
 
@QPaysTaxes Do you want me to search for quotes or can I just tell you you're wrong?
@Jamal Knowing you, you've cleaned Meta a lot. Just like the rest of CR.
You're like CR's own roomba.
 
I don't think any other moderator has even cleanup up Meta. I also had to fill in the tag wikis.
 
I don't think they feel the need, since you're so darn quick.
 
8:47 PM
that ^^^
 
You don't know half how glad we should be to have you around.
 
I mean, it was never done at all, not even in 2011 or 2012.
 
That's for you both by the way, each in your own regard.
 
(And I just stole the wikis from MSO.)
 
No point in , so that was probably a good decision.
 
8:51 PM
@QPaysTaxes not sure what disagreement you want my answer on that i have not yet answered already...?
Well, that's somewhat misrepresentative, and immature, but whatever
 
Hello @JimmyHoffa
 
@EthanBierlein boo! hiss!
 
Eeek!
@QPaysTaxes Don't go
 
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Q: MVC Repository Insert Using async

christo8989This is practically my first time using async in my code. I read about dos-and-donts but I wanted to get some feedback on what I've written. I'm using a repository pattern and I'm inserting asynchronously into the database. An explanation of the models involved: I have one DomainModel and three...

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Q: Blocking reads when writes are happening on two flows

liningI am trying to implement lock by which I want to avoid reads from happening whenever I am doing a write. My requirements are: Reads block until all three maps have been set for the first time. Now second time, If I am updating the maps, I can still return all the three old maps value(before th...

 
Well that was all somewhat odd.
 
8:56 PM
@EthanBierlein What specifically? One of CO's questions or Q?
 
@CaptainObvious ack, I'm a sucker for multithreading, I better get out of here quick before I get backed into answering something.
 
@Mast Q
 
@EthanBierlein you don't tell me what to do!
 
@JimmyHoffa I was talking about a different incident.
 
@EthanBierlein tread carefully, I'm a loose cannon! We don't know what I might do!!?!
 
9:00 PM
*lights match*
 
@rolfl is misrepresentative a word? I think you were going for "ignominious". No I don't know what that word means. I'm a loose cannon!
 
@JimmyHoffa What are you doing?
 
@Mast a question for the ages, no?
 
@200_success @rolfl: Any idea about ? It has no wiki.
 
@Jamal I have no idea what that tag is supposed to mean.
I figure just delete them
(the tags).
 
9:07 PM
How lame, they're too undermanned to get to your site design, but they redesign P.SE without asking anyone what we wanted and doing nothing we'd asked for on meta, and now they're going to give you guys mods without a site design. Why doesn't SE just crowd source designs? It would be faster to getting a quality design than their current approach even if volunteers did half jobs and failed repeatedly, it would still be done faster than waiting on SE...
 
@Jamal I'm not one of the mods, but I think it's about the whole 'When to use comments and what should they tell' dilemma.
 
they wouldn't even have to organize it. The community could easily do it all through meta with voting and volunteers working off eachothers work until someone got all SE needed zipped up and voted on.
 
@rolfl It looks like it might've been added in 2011. I'll delete them.
 
@JimmyHoffa I have been assured that it is more complicated than what we think it should be.
 
@rolfl probably the questions too. Comment review != code review. That's like the opinion garbage NPR would get "How do you comment your code? And what's your favorite lolcat?"
 
9:11 PM
those three meta-questions previously tagged with are all about three completely different comment systems
 
@rolfl that doesn't sound like what every developer I've worked with has said when I pointed out some part of the system that was clearly done for shit...
oh those are meta
 
@JimmyHoffa Personally, I think the new design on Programmers looks slightly clearer, but that's my opinion.
 
@EthanBierlein I don't disagree. I'm still frustrated that we've had numerous meta posts talking about how the community wants the design changed, and there's been a few things that have been universally agreed upon: no more scraggly unprofessional up/down vote buttons yet they replaced our up/down vote buttons with ones that look just as unprofessional as before... It's frustrating because the majority of the P.SE community are professionals, who don't take their work as scratch-paper junk.
At least they replaced the scratchy words on the top bar with plain text
@EthanBierlein I'm a loose cannon! I'm going to go watch something on Netflix. Hooray for Sundays. Ginger ale + lime + bitters for all.
 
@JimmyHoffa Is that an alcoholic drink?
Because it sounds delicious either way.
 
@EthanBierlein It is great either way. Shot of vodka in it and a patio chair is the way to enjoy the beginning of July indeed.
 
9:18 PM
Sounds relaxing. I'll have one without the Vodka though. :D
 
Good ginger ale though; ginger beer.
 
Lol. Still can't have that unfortunately.
 
the first is more spicy, the second a bit sweeter, but those are hands down the best two ginger brews on the market. Num nums. (I love ginger)
@EthanBierlein O_o they're non-alcoholic.
 
Ooh! Okay.
Very occasionally, I'll go to a restaurant, and they'll have ginger ale freshly made from ginger roots. Very good stuff.
 
For anybody who wants ginger beer this is the only real choice (unfortunately rarely available uotside Colorado and seasonally)
@EthanBierlein the reeds extra ginger is very similar to these; has the spiciness of fresh. The Australian stuff is delicious too but distinctive.
 
9:22 PM
Mmmm
 
New site design for Programmers?
 
@RubberDuck slight. It still looks mostly the same, all scratch-paper looking elements like it was uncrumpled from a napkin in a wastebin...
P.SE really has the ugliest site in the network, which is unfortunate because we have some of the best content..
Every other site looks more professional
@RubberDuck You don't tell me what to do!
 
@JimmyHoffa no, but I do help you solve your problems. =;)-
Yeah... It's kind of cleaner, but still... Bleh.
 
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Q: What is the best way to split long lines of code?

HeeLIf I have a one liner method that looks like this: str.toLowerCase.replaceAll("[^\\w']", " ").split(" ").filter(word => word.trim.length >= 1).groupBy(word => word).mapValues(_.size) What is the best way to avoid long lines of code and split it into multiple lines? Here are the options that I ...

 
9:41 PM
Dear Santa, 129 rep to 20k on SO.
 
@nhgrif Santa has awared you some rep. You are now 99 away.
 
And now I'm 25 rep away from capping...
So if I'm going to hit 20k today, it'll require lots of accept votes or bounties.
 
Nope.
Is a meme yet?
 
Yes.
@nhgrif Nope
 
9:51 PM
Yes, it's just not official.
"For some values of X" should probably be added too...
 
Monking
 
Monking @Quill
 
7 answers in a UTC day, I'm happy with that
 
9:55 PM
I just got +6 for an upvote, so I must be capped for the day.
Other than accepted answers.
 
@nhgrif Well done, how many caps have you now?
 
That was either the 8th or 9th on SO.
Tomorrow, at work, I will celebrate 20k.
 
Does everyone in your office have nearly as much rep as you, (or are they really jealous?)
It's actually really interesting to think that most programmers these days have SE/SO accounts.
 
Well, I am only aware of two other SO accounts. Neither person has any rep on any other SE site, and the both have less than me.... but I'm pretty sure they're also both over 15k.
 

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