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9:07 AM

hey @NicolasChabanovsky, someone is asking about the uploading of images for new users in SOes. I see SO does not allow so (it does not render the image), but I am not sure what is the configuration in SOes es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/4003/83

also is there any news on the tag hints? That is, indicating "hey, remember to use [python]" if someone tags python*. My feature-request got quite some upvotes:

Q: ¿Podemos añadir una advertencia en las preguntas con etiqueta [python*]?

Para relanzar el tema y desbloquear votos, pues el CM Nicolas comenta una cosa razonable, el planteamiento de mi propuesta es el siguiente: Propongo que siempre que alguien use la etiqueta python + algún carácter (esto es pythonx, le aparecerá un mensaje del tipo: Usa la etiqueta [python] pa...

Nicolas Chabanovsky

10:02 AM

Hi @fedorqui! How are you? Thank you for pinging me. I sent my colleagues a request to activate blocking new users from posting images. Sorry, I missed the initiative with the warning. I've pinged Shog about it once again. Honestly, I personally see that it might cause frustration when a question contains the python tag but we show the warning anyway.

fedorqui

10:12 AM

@NicolasChabanovsky thanks for the blocking of images!

regarding the Python part, mmm... There is some ballance we need to see: what do we prefer, some frustration from users getting a warning when they should not, or some disorder in tags? I do not really know what is the proper answer

ultimately, the discussion would finish if we could get a more robust warning system that considers the other tags before prompting a message, but I do not think this is in the roadmap right now, isn't it?

Nicolas Chabanovsky

10:29 AM

@fedorqui Let me emphasise that I only sent a request. Right now nothing has changed. I'm waiting for an answer.

fedorqui

@NicolasChabanovsky OK! Whatever you decide sounds fine to me, you are the experts

Nicolas Chabanovsky

@fedorqui I have not heard about anything like that.

@fedorqui I do not decide here anything =) I just sent a request to enable this feature on international sites. I will let you know as soon as I get an answer.

It seems that the only way to understand what is the better approach with python-* tags is to count how many users are unhappy with the current solution, then add a warning and see how many will be unhappy after enabling it.

Could you please tell me how many users have complained about the problem?

fedorqui

https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3860/83 got +9/-1
https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/a/3791/83 got +6
and it comes from a request https://es.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/3746/83 that got +14

I am the one complaining and others have shown agreement

not many people care about tags, and not many people use Meta in SOes. But I think it is something to be enforced

Nicolas Chabanovsky

Thank you!

From my personal experience, people (in general) complain way more often than they show their agreement with something =) I mean, a lot of users might not care about a proposal on meta until we implement it and they do not like it.

fedorqui

10:58 AM

@NicolasChabanovsky absolutely!

but it is the only way of improving the tagging that I can see right now. I hope there would be another one

Nicolas Chabanovsky

@fedorqui Yeah. I wanted to emphasise that if/when we activate the warning we need to be ready to disable it if there are a lot of complains about it.

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Anderson Carlos Woss

1:40 PM

@NicolasChabanovsky I created in the Meta the discussion for the page in the help center about translations of content: pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/7678/5878

gbianchi

1:53 PM

@fedorqui Shouldn't we discuss this previous to take a desition? render a link instead of the images sounds worst to me... :/

fedorqui

@gbianchi I just asked what the configuration is like in SOes

gbianchi

well.. Nicholas said "I sent my colleagues a request to activate blocking new users from posting images. "... maybe he rush to it?

fedorqui

the underlying idea of just showing the link is that users will be more prompted to post real code, since their post won't look as well

gbianchi

capaz se apuro?

@fedorqui uff.. no viste la cantidad que hace eso ultimamente.. tiran directamente los repos :(

fedorqui

2:44 PM

@gbianchi ya... but what can be done to improve the situation?

gbianchi

@fedorqui We can paste the why not use an image for a while, to see if it impact the people...

A: Un fragmento de código vale más que mil imágenes... ¿cómo sensibilizar a los usuarios de ese principio?

Cuando haces preguntas o cuando las contestas, por favor no uses capturas de pantalla del texto. Esto es una mala idea porque: No se puede copiar tu codigo en las respuestas, busquedas de google, en una solución para comprobarlo o donde sea. No salen en las busquedas La publicación es mas pesad...

or we can make a banner of it?

fedorqui

2:59 PM

@gbianchi banners are rendered randomly, so I think it is quite unlikely that will affect new users. This post used to be useful if used properly:

Q: ¿Por qué he recibido un voto negativo?

He recibido un voto negativo en mi pregunta/respuesta, y la persona que lo hizo me ha dirigido aquí. ¿Cuál es la razón? ¿Cómo puedo evitarlo? En mi pregunta Te he votado negativamente porque... no responder a los usuarios que piden clarificaciones no es de ayuda una captura del código no e...

discusión votos votos-negativos faq-proposed

@gbianchi so we can also link this post of yours

gbianchi

3:16 PM

@fedorqui probably... this is never ending story... :p

fedorqui

@gbianchi the discussion I found to answer the Meta question is this one:

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Q: Discourage screenshots of code and/or errors

Can we add some guidance to discourage new users from posting screenshots of their code and/or errors? It may not be the most common problem, but I've run into it more than a few times. New-ish user asks a question and rather than taking the time to copy and paste their code or console errors in...