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11:54 AM
@Mann Will you be around 23:30 FST? I've to ask some thing regarding branch and stuffs. What about Physics vs Engineering physics? This matters to me just in case, if I fall down to plan C.
 
12:21 PM
France standard time? Yes, I think I will be there
 
okay, I asked that, just in case when you won't be available before that time.
 
12:53 PM
Can someone help me in this
 
Sorry, this won't be in my domain. ^
@AjayMishra That time I suppose is best for me as well. I'd totally free and finished with all daily chores and other stuff
 
1:58 PM
@cattt source? I too didn’t got that, certainly it is intended to concern with act to operate the same operation on the product because the sum will change.
 
2:20 PM
@AjayMishra Have you have idea?
 
The contest is still in-progress. You shouldn't ask for answers.
There should be an editorial out once the contest is over.
 
2:56 PM
@cattt ,I think it should be clear to you what it mean to apply the operation multiple times. It just meant, you chose first numbers apply operations, and you again pick different number, apply operations on them. any number can be operated many times.
 
3:23 PM
@cattt If you asking about solution, I can't find any pattern. Have you find any? In binary base or at decimal base ?
 
4:20 PM
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Q: Maximum sum after XOR

cattt Let there be a set of N numbers. Now we are given two values K and X. Now we pick exactly K different numbers. And the each of that number with the XOR of X and that number.We can perform these operation as many times .Finally we have to find the maximum sum of the numbers (After performing th...

 
 
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8:38 PM
@AjayMishra
I am free atm
 
@Mann Physics or Engineering physics?
 
I don't really have much idea about this honestly speaking. I know about the Engineering physics people in my college though. And the state is not really too well. I have taken few courses like Quantum mechanics and Statistical physics. It was not good, it was churning up random things.
I think that's the best I can say related to this. I don't have much Idea
 
Okay. No problem.
 
But I can tell you about the curriculum
That would be possible for me
Atleast of IITKGP
 
I got that from IIT BHU website.
 
8:52 PM
Oh okayy
 
I guess IIT KGP dont provide Eng phy
 
I don't remember actually, It was the case that one of it was absent :|
 
I just like that because in that you are taught couple of stuffs that are intersection of different branches like Proframming, statistics and stuff
 
I'd not recommend going for it if you don't wanna work in some sort of applied physics stuff. And are looking at other aspects of application. Though, that's just my opinion. If you really think the benefit outweighs, then why not.
Because, you can get other options if you just wanna get the "intersections"
 
Like?
 
8:58 PM
Minor degree
I am a mechanical major for example
BUt
I have done several courses in pure mathematics/physics and computing
also statistics
For example
Statistical Inference, Probability and Statistics.
Abstract Algebra, Real Analsys
Design and analysis of algorithm and it's lab.
QM and Statistical Physics
 
The problem with that that then I will focussing more on minor rather than my own subject and then the whole plan of branch change would be messed up. By the way, when one have to choose his/her minor?
 
After 1st year
You are not allowed to take any additional subject in first year
Atleast in KGP
Infact my minor Degree is in Mathematics & Computing
And its just about 5 courses and 2 labs
But the curriculum is stipulated by the institute
 
Yeah, cool. That’s fine, if all plans would fail I would resort to that.
 
You should still first check for the availability in the institute you will apply for
I even replace my own departmental electives with other department electives. It can be that extendable
 
I’m thinking of IIT BHU, they have branch change option just after first semester.
 
9:04 PM
One semester is a bit risky for it though. Be careful. But I think you will have a pretty high chance
 
@Mann won’t increase the workload? I.e. reading up the prerequisites and preliminaries to think about that particular elective?
@Mann why?
 
Because, there are some times. when Grading is 'slightly' random. + The exams may not always be tough but more like accuracy based or maybe something more about memorizing and etc. It's possible that a certain 'x' may have high aptitude but bad accuracy, so, 'x' can get at a disadvantage.
@AjayMishra THe work load is reallly very manageable, trust me.
And most of the time, you proceed in a fashion so you don't end up with prerequisite.
Even a certain course requires to you complete other courses as prerequisite many of the times( you can't apply for it without the prereq course).
They even put 5-10 marks on attendance sometimes, lol.
 
@Mann They're very sensible.
 
Who?
 
You are in 5th year, right?
 
9:12 PM
Ehh, trust me. There are "GOOD" prof but there are also bad ones. I have seen many of them.
 
@Mann IIT's managers who might be professors.
 
I will be going to 5th year yes.
Not all of them are good or sensible sadly.
 
@Mann I have no idea about narcissistic arrogant ones. It is wonder that almost all JEE kids seems to be of same kind.
 
" It is wonder that almost all JEE kids seems to be of same kind." Didn't get you
I can tell like one case simply. One Prof. Deregistered 50+ students before 1-2 days on endsem. To take some "Revenge" in a very subtle way.
 
What benefits have you if you've took M & C as minor? I mean jobs and stuffs. It certainly can help one to be resourceful for someone who is aiming for startups but I don't know about jobs.
 
9:16 PM
It does in jobs as well. I'd be able to sit for the companies.
 
@Mann for what he was taking the revenge?
 
Emm. How do I put it exactly. He's just a guy who's just a bit sadistic
We had a weirdo in class, he did something really stupid. The prof was offended. Chains of events happened and it all went to this
 
I mean, he just can't be thinking of taking revenge out of nowhere.
 
Basically, he got 1/30 marks in midsem. He stole his script back to home and started arguing with prof that I attended every class and indirectly put him to blame in conversation.
His ego got hurt
So the prof decided to "pump up" the ego.
It was in 4th year
 
@Mann The dude(student) is daft then, why blame the professor!
 
9:19 PM
No trust mee
The student is definitely
But also the prof
Anyway, It's fine I won't force any opinion.
I'd let you form your own. And it may as well be very different from mine.
But for me, I had some disappointment.
 
I won't try to score that much. haha. By the way, I have seen people on quora stating that a guy who do BS in physics can land a good job, if he knows about other topics like that of CSE. How do they check that? Certificates?
 
Yeaaa, it's like you will have to create your "Profile"
You will have some "societies/clubs" , "Internships" , "Coding competition", Online, kaggle, hackathons, online courses, codechef, hackerrank, etc.
Just get them all added to your CV
Once you have a solid proof of you have the definite skill
you'd have a much higher chance than a CSE guy
 
oh, cool.
 
who did nothing but his curriculum
Thats the catch^
 
I just have to be resourceful. Cool.
 
9:25 PM
For job perspective, You'd have to be resourceful AND Presentable.
But one more catchy word is "Solid proof"
You'd mostly need certificates of whatever you would add
 
You tried that after your Btech?
 
Naa, I don't really have the knack for a job at present.
I would sit for placements, yes, but I won't add too much efforts.
 
@Mann I can get them from coursera atleast.
 
I'd focus on "data", it's the most blooming field with not much effort as far as I have heard from other people.
 
@Mann what are you thinking of research or entrepreneurship?
@Mann Data science stuffs? Machine learning?
 
9:28 PM
Emm, Coursera wouldn't count that much Afaik. But once you come to IIT's you will yourself see all the options you will be able to add. Don't worry about it, but it will be your responsibility to look for opportunities.
Yeaa exactly
Research
 
Cool.
 
There is a big focus on Data science and Machine Learning during placements.
Really big here.
 
I know that. I just happen to be interested in that. I guess, focus on AI,QC and Bio-tech would be much more after couple of year(4-6) than what is now for CS today.
 
I think, honestly speaking, DATA/AI has already exceeded CS here.
Maybe not in terms of large packages or job profile but at least in terms of quantity and demand .
 
@Mann I didn't knew that it is happening that fast.
 
9:33 PM
Yeaa, if I'd show you list of my internship companies you would be amazed xD
which came for mechanical
It's sort of at intermediate stages
 
Can you recall when you have to deposit the fees of IIT for the first time?
 
During the certificate check I think
 
@Mann Have you these off in every summer?
 
I had to deposit 45000
 
@Mann Seat claiming, you mean?
 
9:34 PM
Yeaa
I am not sure what is it like now
But I remember, I had to go IIT D to get certificates checked
There I had to take the proof of payment
 
But that's not the fees. I mean fees(aggregates of tuition + hostel + mess + other things).
 
Oh yess, I paid for Tution only then. Rest, I paid after coming here
After getting registered on everything
 
@Mann This year for Underprivileged that is 35K
 
Ohh that is really nice. they are doing something.
My time, the tution fee was 45K
then it blasted to 100K I think
 
@Mann So they are taking as a tuition fees? I thought they are thinking of having some snacks.
 
9:37 PM
Is it still that?
 
For IIT KGP it is 0.1 million.
 
The initial payment is tution fee
45000 for example in my case
Rest I do there, hall etc etc
It was in my case atleast
 
But that's not clear to me in my case, It is 100K, but I have to just pay 35K, anyway that's not a problem I guess. I'll check the document at josaa
 
Ohh, that's the Issue I see. I think there could be a possibility of reimbursement them. If you are definite about 35K thing, and they are saying 100K you get it checked
 
Underprivileged = General category
3 mins ago, by Ajay Mishra
@Mann This year for Underprivileged that is 35K
 
9:40 PM
I know I know
Some income bar right?
 
No, just plain general.
I used that word for sarcasm.
 
Omg xD
Ahhhhh
I can understand
But yeaaa, how'd the fees get to 35K?
 
@Mann Just seat acceptance.
 
Ohhhhh I seee
My seat acceptance fee was my full tution Fee
But in your case it's 35000
Then rest you pay after
 
oh, cool. but after, when? [Since, it is about 150K one gotta know, when.] If you can recall,I have checked the document I didn't got the details.
 
9:46 PM
It's gonna be after your start date or very nearby your start date
For me, it we after I was registered with a Roll no. at my institute
 
Okay. Cool.
 
I will be going now though I think. There's nothing else right?
 
No, thanks for your time!
 
No issues. Good luck with every thing and good night!
 

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