Ask Ubuntu 2013 Moderator Elections

RolandiXor

4:01 PM

So many choices... so few votes.

gertvdijk

"13 Candidates" <--- did I miss something? somebody retracted?

jrg

i don't see any names grayed out.

FEichinger

Only 13 on the list, though.

jrg

didn't we have 14 earlier?

fossfreedom

cool - I can nominate myself...

bug - where do I file it?!

FEichinger

4:05 PM

Well, it did read 14.

jrg

@fossfreedom oh? Lets break the system.

@fossfreedom so, what happens if a moderator runs for moderator?

FEichinger

But I don't think anyone vanished.

jrg

who wants to risk that?

fossfreedom

you run - you lose - bye bye mod cow powers

snow

who left ?

RolandiXor

4:08 PM

lol

Amith KK

@jrg If you win.. you become a SE Employee

snow

Ro

RolandiXor

The Phantom of the Election.

@jrg gtalk?

snow

@RolandiXor Thank you for that day about grammer.

RolandiXor

@snow you're welcome :)!

snow

4:09 PM

@RolandiXor :)

RolandiXor

That's a rare thing, to be thanked for telling someone about their grammar :)

jrg

I kind of want to submit that.

Amith KK

@jrg That link was almost Yoda

snow

@RolandiXor I am not much good with Grammar too. .

:)

jrg

@AmithKK oh.

i see.

Seth

4:13 PM

@jrg It's been so long since I've seen that...

Amith KK

What is this baby kissing thing?

gertvdijk

@FEichinger There were 14 candidates just a few hours ago.

Amith KK

@gertvdijk Yeah

snow

yes @gertvdijk

jrg

it's like http://drbl.in/baII

FEichinger

4:14 PM

@gertvdijk I know. I saw that. I just can't for the live of me remember who was on the list, and now isn't.

Luis Alvarado

@RolandiXor - Great movie that one. The princess bride ;)

Hey Jokerdino is there ^^. Another vote for him ;)

Anybody noticed that @hhlp has done literally half of the tags

There should be a gold tag badge called hhlp by now

hhlp

:)

Luis Alvarado

Nice job hhlp, I mean some of those take time to find, to research and you have being doing a bunch of them.. and I mean a REALLY BIG bunch.

hhlp

thx no problem

Luis Alvarado

@RolandiXor hey buddy have you tested the bonded option for network cards?

RolandiXor

4:44 PM

not yet

jrg

-84

Q: Evaluating the risks of allowing teen moderators on the SE network

I have a David vs Goliath case here involving a teen moderator on Stack Overflow. His display name is BoltClock. I'm a low reputation SO user (less than 150 points) who was recently suspended for Voting Irregularities by BoltClock. Eventually the mistake was corrected by another non-teen moderat...

@ObsessiveSSOℲ, @AmithKK, @jokerdino, @smartboyhw: You need to read this. If you win, this will be directed at you.

IT WILL HAPPEN.

jokerdino

No, i am beyond teen.

jrg

</end-doomsday-stuff>

@jokerdino BC was 19 at the time, iirc.

jokerdino

Damn

jrg

oh, 20.

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Mar 26 '12 at 13:02, by Yi Jiang's Proble_

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA If he's flipping out over BC being 20 and moderating the site, imagine what he'll do when he finds out one of AU's mod is 15 :P

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grins

jokerdino

4:49 PM

hehe

jrg

anyway, I'll bring it up again in the town hall, just something that you should read and ponder.

jokerdino

I don't think I being a teenager would have any effect.

njallam

Hi @jokerdino

jokerdino

Hi

someone withdrew. It was 14 before

RolandiXor

Must have been community.

jokerdino

4:54 PM

And well, thanks for the comment.

njallam

me?

jokerdino

Yeah, you.

njallam

you're welcome. Sorry, I get confused when I am not pinged specifically

jokerdino

Ah, I usually don't ping when there is no third person in the convo.

njallam

well jrg was here...

anyway, I'm quite liking webapps.stackexchange.com

Questions over there are so easy to answer

jokerdino

4:57 PM

Haha

njallam

Seriously though. I got 20 rep for this: webapps.stackexchange.com/a/40047/22999

I used a screenshot in an attempt to make it look detailed

lol, 2 more upvotes

jokerdino

Hm, too many questions dilute the attention though.

njallam

What do you mean?

jokerdino

If you get too many choices, you won't analyze each of them well. That's what I am trying to get to.

If you have too many posts to read, you end up reading less.

And so, you vote even lesser.

Ah, forgive me. I am moderately interested in psychology.

njallam

I think the problem with the community is that there is more people asking than can be bothered to answer.

I just did 3 of the easiest answers in my life and I am +60rep

jokerdino

5:05 PM

@njallam true that.

@njallam :)

Seth

Whew!

Roland's running again.

jokerdino

Oh that is nice!

Seth

yeah...

Well, I guess that mean Luis Alvarado, jokerdino and Roland.

Gui

Crap I might as well just quit... there is no point in competing against @RolandiXor.

Seth

lol

Agreed.

@jrg You've been a great mod as long as I've been around.

Oh my word.

@jrg did you see this?

oh, I see you did.

Luis Alvarado

5:33 PM

@Seth reading your link which jrg commented, for what I have seen (And btw just noticed right now that jrg is 16), jrg is a very mature teenager. But making my point, I have known 20 something, 30 something and even 40 or 50 something years old to behave like 10 year olds.

Seth

Yep. That is very true.

njallam

Wow, the most complex answer I posted has the least upvotes...

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Luis Alvarado

What suprises me is that the amount of, let me call them mature teenagers I have known is very little to the amount of inmature adults I have known. I for one consider myself a somewhat inmature 33 year old compared to others, younger than me that I have come to know. The case of a 14 year old that I had the pleasure to teach and a network course, which surprised me, knowing that at that age I was actually playing with stick figures and such, but this kid is doing a network course.

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Now the case of jrg, for the love of god, his 16 acting like 61

7

jokerdino

I don't know. People impress me all the time.

Seth

@LuisAlvarado star

FEichinger

5:35 PM

★

Seth

I still haven't figured that out.

Luis Alvarado

If I could I would adopt him, I mean he is very mature for his age, so he is 1 in very few that shows us "adults" we get it wrong sometimes (Many times actually).

njallam

Wait, I've been in the Election chatroom all this time... I thought I was in general!

Luis Alvarado

@njallam - Do not worry about your answer

Marco Ceppi

@LuisAlvarado As an immature adult, I disagree

Luis Alvarado

5:37 PM

@njallam - Yeah I also thought I was in the normal chat, happen that the election one is on top of the normal one.

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi Why bowl me over with difficult and tricky questions? :(

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino Everyone is getting one

Luis Alvarado

@MarcoCeppi hahaha. Yeah, now let's wait until jrg comes out of class and punch him

Marco Ceppi

I'm going to be the BOFH during the election, I guess that makes me the BMFH. D:<

jokerdino

You forgot your smiley.

Seth

5:38 PM

lol

Luis Alvarado

BOFH? - Best Oriental Fighting Hill
BMFH - Best Man Fighting Hill

jokerdino

Now, that's so much better ;P

Marco Ceppi

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Luis Alvarado

hhahhahahh holy mother

Seth

good grief.

Marco Ceppi

5:40 PM

So, to the candidates, prepare yourselves.

To be honest, Evan Carrol got away with the easiest comment by far.

Luis Alvarado

Dum di dum.. Going for my holy water, garlic and some silver bullets, cus' this gonna be some messed up election!

jokerdino

I have been more active today than the whole of this month.

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Seth

I bet.

hands @LuisAlvarado a phaser Have a phaser too budddy :D

jokerdino

Well, I just went on the record.

Seth

I just got copy editor. finally.

Luis Alvarado

5:42 PM

Thank you obiwanSethnobi

Seth

rotfl

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi You going to UDS-S?

You would be a good guy to meet.

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino I'll be applying again for sponsorship, not sure if I'll get selected. We'll see

jokerdino

I am trying my hand this time around.

Luis Alvarado

@MarcoCeppi hey buddy thats another thing. You guys should record stuff you do over there at UDS. You know for us "out of towners..country" friend.

jokerdino

5:44 PM

Would the sponsorship cover the Visa, tickets and all those stuff?

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino Yes, more details will pop up soon on the UDS site

Seth

nothing will be the same after this election :(

that makes me sad

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi Ah, that would be nice. Thanks for that piece of info.

@Seth Ha, my internet plans would remain the same though.

At least until the end of this month.

Seth

but it will become

jrg

Elections change all things.

Seth

5:47 PM

"Yes Sir Jokerdino" and "No Sir Jokerdino" :P

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jokerdino

Aw, I didn't star that.

Seth

lol :P

Marco Ceppi

Typically elections change the elected for the worse

Seth

Well, we got @RolandiXor to run anynway. evil laugh

Luis Alvarado

Anybody tried the performance on both MariaDB and MySQL, more related to selects/updates/inserts/deletes than views and features

jokerdino

5:50 PM

@MarcoCeppi The elected would sympathize with the rest of your mod team for sure. ;)

Marco Ceppi

Luis Alvarado

I don't know about you guys but the more Marco mentions the "positive" aspects of the elections, the more probability there is I'll get off the election wagon

Seth

:O

Rory Alsop

@LuisAlvarado sounds a lot like me :-)

jokerdino

Post that again at the end of the election for maximum effect

@RoryAlsop I honestly thought he was describing the politicians.

Rory Alsop

5:53 PM

@jokerdino heh

Luis Alvarado

Marco - Because you can never have enough of "Hell will break loose!! Community will eat you up, muhahaha moderators from hell will rise.. Will rise... WILL RISE!!!! (Paranormal Activity scare scenes)"

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino I'll use this one too

jokerdino

You been on reddit for too long. tsk

Marco Ceppi

I'll leave one more for you guys for now. I feel I may have been too negative.

Every day as a moderator on the site

Luis Alvarado

@MarcoCeppi No you haven't (Crying in the corner).. keep on writing buddy (Still crying) keep on writing (Sobbing like hell)

Seth

5:56 PM

waaay too negative.

jokerdino

I think it was a good idea disabling images after all. ;)

Seth

you've just about scared all the candidates away

Luis Alvarado

This reminds of Dracula Dead and loving it, when the doctor starts scaring the students away

Seth

can someone please delete that .gif?

Luis Alvarado

marco is mel brooks

Marco Ceppi

5:58 PM

Deal with it.gif

Seth

it's driving me crazy

jokerdino

@Seth Right click, inspect element and remove it.

Luis Alvarado

youtube.com/watch?v=yOdFTF6xNfk (Here is Marco Ceppi with the new moderators in a 101 session)

Seth

good idea

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino but if I edit/resubmit won't it recreate it?

Luis Alvarado

6:00 PM

@MarcoCeppi hahahaah cool pic

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi Not sure about that but a simple kick will get the gif back on the screen.

All you need is to refresh the page.

Marco Ceppi

</modabuse> for today

jokerdino

Good guy Marco. ^^

Hm, I need to account for the 40 MB b/w I used today. Good night folks.

Luis Alvarado

Silly Marco, always playing with the newbies.. but huh? Where did the newbies go?

@jokerdino take care buddy

Seth

I don't think there were any newbies here to begin with @LuisAlvarado >_>

Luis Alvarado

6:03 PM

@Seth new moderators I meant hehe

Seth

ah OK.

Rory Alsop

I just realised I should hang out here more often - the colour scheme is pleasing :-)

Seth

we're a weird bunch to be sure.

Luis Alvarado

yeah, you can even change it with firebug and firefox hehe

Marco Ceppi

@RoryAlsop the people are pretty colorful too

Rory Alsop

6:05 PM

it matches my face :-)

hahahhah

lol

true that

6:27 PM

@MarcoCeppi Looks like an interesting bunch of candidates for the election :-)

quite looking forward to the town hall

Marco Ceppi

Definitely interesting. The town hall will be fun for me

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Rory Alsop

@MarcoCeppi hahahahaha

Journeyman Geek

arn't the comments being a mini town hall? ;p

FEichinger

> I've ran for many elections. So far reputation and votes have been the least of my concern. Corruption, collusion, and downright election fraud are more often to blame for me not winning.

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askubuntu.com/election/3#post-251490

Seth

good grief.

FEichinger

6:34 PM

Corruption and Fraud! Definitely.

Seth

announcing at the top of your lungs that you will violate the privacy policy etc is a good way to get elected. Uh hhm.

FEichinger

Reminds me of the presidential elections a bit.

Rory Alsop

@Seth that is usually on his statement....

Seth

@FEichinger yours or the US's?

@RoryAlsop yeah I know...

FEichinger

@Seth US.

Rory Alsop

6:36 PM

@Seth frightening, really...

Seth

yeah

George Edison

Waaay too many good candidates.

Who am I going to vote for?

Journeyman Geek

;p

ObsessiveSSOℲ

8:10 PM

Hello!

Saw that linked post, regarding teen moderators. Thanks for the heads-up, @jrg.

(At lest, I think that was you).

Marco Ceppi

I guess he's our teeny tiny moderator ;)

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The Lord of Time

10:28 PM

Is anyone aware that we've got minors running for moderator?

like, substantially under age minors.

RED FLAGS!

FEichinger

We had that discussion thrice in the past 24h.

The Lord of Time

can't see it you know.

FEichinger

And it resulted in "lol@jrg" every single time.

The Lord of Time

@jrg wake up, state your age.

FEichinger

:D

The Lord of Time

10:30 PM

or be slapped.

(those're the only options)

@FEichinger is @jrg older than 14 years old though?

shall check back after obtaining food

FEichinger

@TheLordofTime Yeh, he is. My point is just that we need to be cautious when worrying about age.

Oli

11:23 PM

Age and conduct aren't necessarily linked.
There are lots of very young members on the site and in the Ubuntu community. Whether or not they're suited to be a moderator is dependant on their ability to interact with the community, not drink, vote in national elections or drive.

FEichinger

@Oli I think the worries arise from legal issues. Minors that young often can't be held even remotely as responsible by law, which is something that shouldn't be risked. But, obviously, preventing that is on SE, not us.

The Lord of Time

in the US, any minor can't be in a contract.

or at least can't be bound to it

and then the parents/guardians are responsible

which of course raises a ton of legal problems

Oli

@FEichinger 13+ year olds are held culpable (and even as adults in some cases) in most places. You tend to have to get below ten before you're within the bounds of diplomatic-immunity-style injustices.

The Lord of Time

@Oli "Held Culpable" is not the same as "tried for criminal infraction therein"

usually the parents get hit with fees/fines/etc.

Oli

What ungodly powers do you think we moderators have that would earn us a criminal conviction?

The Lord of Time

11:28 PM

usually its 16+ that i see them actually get tried though

@Oli, just saying :P

@Oli super nuclear banrifle? (loljk)

FEichinger

A breach of moderator policy could well result in a lawsuit, depending on just how it's done.

Oli

You're not supposed to know about the rifle...

The Lord of Time

@Oli i know about a lot of things.

because I have my own banrifle for a different domain./

Oli

@FEichinger Frankly that's between SE and the moderator. If they want to set an age limit, that's their choice but up to now they haven't, I assume because there's just so little liability they could expose.

FEichinger

@Oli That's why I said, it's on SE, not us. I do get where the worries come from, though.

The Lord of Time

11:31 PM

and you're now well informed of why i'm concerned for a 14 year old to have powers here

such that:

"UPON: Disagreement with randomuser statement. THEN: banslap"

Oli

And again, this is something for the community to judge. People's conduct is pretty open on the site. You can see how people answer things, you can see how they interact in comments and in the chat. That should give you a fair understanding of how balanced they are.

The Lord of Time

as well as a thousand other issues that could occur.

Oli

@TheLordofTime Yeah and one email to team@stackexchange.com and BAM, the mod is no longer a mod.

We are by no means without overlords.

The Lord of Time

oh but of course.

EVIL OVERLORDS OF EXISTENCE.

FEichinger

A more "horrific" scenario: Take the IP of a user who shared an easily-exploitable security vulnerability and sell it, or infiltrate the PC yourself.

The Lord of Time

11:33 PM