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4:03 PM
mornin
hmmm
 
vzn
@glS bells thm is a very vast area & urge you to get a serious ref on it, even try wikipedia. & then realize all the refs are incomplete... o_O
 
glS
@vzn I would say a pretty good standard reference is Brenner et al. 2013's review
but that clearly depends on what you mean by "complete"
 
First class constraints and primary constraints are different things???
oh bums
 
user351417
@EmilioPisanty Okee, I finally reworked that answer... It turned out longer than I expected, but I'm rather pleased with the way it looks. Unfortunately, the result of much further analysis, which is summarized in the post, was very very disappointing. I'm almost wondering if I made a mistake in the math. Also, the creator of that deleted bad answer wrote some comments on the original which were partially correct yesterday. I included the brief description of the interferometer too.
 
user351417
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Q: Why does this wavemeter use $3$ mirrors to turn light $180^\circ$ instead of just $2$?

WeiShan Ng In this geometry of wavemeter, why do we use 3 mirrors instead of just 2 mirrors positioned 45° to each other to turn the light beam 180° around?

 
rob
4:21 PM
We have a new user who is a time traveler.
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vzn
@glS not saying this will chg effective reception of/ response to your question, but suggest you put the complete ref in it. yes, the issue of causation vs correlation is at the heart of the problem...
 
Please let me know if time travel is possible.
If yes, then when?
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Wikipedia is your friend
 
> Asking when time travel is possible is the wrong question
> The correct question is "where"
 
@Secret I wanted to know by what year
 
4:29 PM
@Chair yeah, it's a bit wordy for something that's not fully conclusive
 
By what year would I be able to return to my younger self
 
Don't ask me I am not a time traveler, though I seriously wish it will happen by 2025
(Providing we don't have mark zuckerberg as the US president and we all get enslaved by facebook)
 
Anonymous
@Abcd "It is uncertain if time travel to the past is physically possible."
 
@Chair the first reference in Fox et al. is pretty interesting though
 
Anonymous
@Secret We have....greater dangers possible :P
 
4:32 PM
Ted Hänsch, toiling away at spectroscopy, some three decades before inventing Nobel-worthy spectrometers
 
glS
@vzn I actually found the answer myself =) I edited the question and currently proceeding to answer it
 
it's a good exercise to try and see what's the most recent measurement performed by Hänsch's group of the isotopes and Lamb shifts in that paper
 
Sid
@Blue Like? I am skeptical. :P
 
I would not be surprised if it has an uncertainty some six to nine orders of magnitude lower
 
Anonymous
@Sid A nuclear war? :P
 
Sid
4:36 PM
@Blue FAKE NEWS!
 
hi chat
 
Anonymous
@Sid BTW what subjects are you guys having this sem?
 
Anonymous
@Semiclassical olla
 
> 670.933±0.056 GHz
vs
> 670 994 334 606(15) Hz
six orders of magnitude improvement in precision
 
Sid
@Blue Signals and Networks, Maths 3(I don't remember what's in the syllabus of that), Electrical Machines, some Humanities course, Signal lab, Language Lab
And 1 or 2 others, that I am forgetting.
 
Anonymous
4:43 PM
@Sid "Language Lab" ?!
 
Sid
Plus a minor of one's choosing(which I haven't chosen yet. I have to go through the courses which are available)
 
Anonymous
We don't have any math courses from second year onwards. :/ Well, not that engineering math was ever fun :P
 
Anonymous
@Sid Nice! Our electives begin from the third year
 
Sid
@Blue Yeah, basically speaking skills. "How to interact with a superior in an office environment" and so on
@Blue What are your courses?
 
Anonymous
@Sid EM theory, analog circuits, digital logic, electrical machines, network synthesis and noise theory
 
4:47 PM
@EmilioPisanty I'd be curious what a graph of their measurement precision as a function of time would look like
 
Anonymous
More or less similar to yours. Except for the noise and digital logic I guess
 
some sort of moore's law relation, maybe?
 
@Blue what about future
 
@Semiclassical that's a hard-ish but reasonable thing to put together
@Semiclassical yes (but with additional considerations)
 
Anonymous
4:48 PM
@Abcd "Forward time travel, outside the usual sense of the perception of time, is an extensively-observed phenomenon and well-understood within the framework of special relativity and general relativity. However, making one body advance or delay more than a few milliseconds compared to another body is not feasible with current technology."
 
which is to say, linear on a linear-log-scale graph
but
 
Anonymous
Why don't you read the Wikipedia article and the references? :P Most of your questions are clearly answered there
 
it will almost certainly be piecewise linear
 
can't say I'd be willing to put in the effort to find out, in any case
 
I should think
 
4:49 PM
@user929304 I'm afraid I don't know what post you might be referring to, sorry
 
with a sharpish kink (so results suddenly start getting better much faster) at the invention of the frequency comb
it's hard to underestimate just how amazing an invention that thing is
 
Sid
@Blue Ah, sorry, I missed Analog Electronics.
And Maths 3 comprises of Numerical Methods and Differential Equations
 
Anonymous
@Sid Oh, we had those last sem. I hated the way they taught DEs though
 
Sid
Oh. We had Laplace Transform and Matrix theory in last semester.
 
Anonymous
5:01 PM
Matrix theory?
 
Anonymous
You mean linear algebra (SVD, normal form, etc)?
 
Anonymous
We covered Laplace in the signal processing class
 
Sid
some parts of Linear Algebra, yeah
 
5:20 PM
support vectors...yummy
 
vzn
5:36 PM
@glS if you are satisfied with your answer then maybe thats all that matters...
 
5:56 PM
@vzn yes lol they can induce some pretty funky results
 
6:14 PM
@enumaris I'll eventually get to those! I actually watched a talk that briefly mentioned LSTM last night and I think it confused me more...something about making gates from NN nodes. Maybe because it was a talk that avoided math
 
yeah maybe
that's a really good blog post about how LSTMs work
 
Ahhh one of my friends linked me to the colah posts a while back and I completely forgot about them. I'll have to take a look tonight
Did you do ML stuff in physics or just happen to go into it? My old advisor was looking into NNs for particle identification, but don't know how far he is now
I'd imagine it could be useful if you're doing observational astro
 
I went into it after I graduated lol
 
Anonymous
Okay, since you are the main contributor to Circ, and your name is not Trump, I will believe you — rrtucci 6 mins ago
 
Anonymous
lol, I don't really see the connection here
 
6:32 PM
it does seem like a bit of a non sequitor
@BalarkaSen no, people who understand QFT are wizards. that or lunatics, I'm not sure.
 
anybody here good with tableau?
 
@Semiclassical could be lunatic wizards
 
if we're going full cthulhu, probably the right word is 'occultists'
see beyond the veil of classical field theory -> permanent loss of Sanity
 
hello
 
who needs classical sanity when you can have Schrodinger's sanity?
 
6:41 PM
can't help be reminded of this old SMBC: smbc-comics.com/comic/2009-05-18
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(9 years old, jeeze)
 
@Slereah does the link have to be auto-download? now I have 3 random photos of @EmilioPisanty on my desktop because I accidentally clicked that link a few times from the starboard.
 
@Eulb Hm? It's just a link to a jpg, doesn't download anything for me
 
when I click it it opens a new empty tab that downloads the photo to my downloads list.
 
Do you have your browser configured to automatically download pure picture links for some reason?
 
no
that's the weird bit
 
6:43 PM
@Eulb What browser?
 
safari lol
 
@rob fun fact, that's immediately what I thought of when I saw this on the starboard (though I couldn't remember the name until I looked at the link)
so either we've got a time traveller, a conspiracy theorist, or a Steins;Gate fan
(or someone having a laugh)
 
or just an innocent bloke that happens to be named john titor
 
@Eulb Seems to be indeed browser-caused, cf. discussions.apple.com/thread/2755797
 
@ACuriousMind thanks lol
I forgot you were an IT guy now
;)
 
6:46 PM
I literally just typed "safari downloads jpgs" into Google and clicked on the first result :P
 
> In 2003, the John Titor Foundation published a book, John Titor: A Time Traveler's Tale
Man some people are really committed
 
@Eulb His handsome visage is now with you
 
@ACuriousMind I also forgot you were an expert google searcher from before
 
more recently, the anime/visual novel Steins;Gate (time travel shenanigans) has John Titor as a plot point
 
if john titor wasn't real then why would he be featured in an anime?
anime wouldn't lie to us right? so he must be real
 
6:51 PM
seems legit
 
what's even more legit is that basically all his predictions turned out to be incorrect
 
man...this should just be such a simple thing to do
but I can't figure out how to do it on tableau
 
that just proves that he succeeded in warning us about the dire future and therefore we managed to avert it
 
7:13 PM
@Eulb Same. I keep forgetting what the link is so I have 7 copies of Emilio in my Downloads
 
@Eulb more to the point, why is that still on the star board? I frankly don't think it's particularly appropriate and would rather prefer a room owner took it down
cc @ACuriousMind
 
@EmilioPisanty As you wish.
 
@ACuriousMind thx
 
7:30 PM
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Q: $\mathbf{g}(\mathbf{r})=-\boldsymbol{\nabla}\psi(\mathbf r)$: searching for a minus sign error

SebastianoConsider the following figure where $R=\sqrt{(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+(z-z')^2}=|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r}'|$ is the module of the $\mathbf{R}$ vector depends not only on the location of the $P$ point but also on the location $P'$ where the $dV'$ volume is located (fixed once located in the volume $\math...

Is there someone of good will who could answer my question? I hope it is clear. Thank you all.
 
@Sebastiano there isn't (really) a question there
particularly because you haven't defined $\mathbf g(\mathbf r)$ to begin with
or $\widehat{\mathbf R}$, for that matter
but the existing answer looks correct
 
Any chance that someone could tell me if the commenter on this answer is saying something that makes sense? I don't really understand what he's trying to get at physics.stackexchange.com/a/417940/24839
 
your understanding of $\mathbf g(\mathbf r)$ looks to have a sign error in it
@Sebastiano to the extent that you had a question, it's already been answered.
 
@danielunderwood I don't understand either what they are saying, fwiw
 
@danielunderwood it looks to me like you are right and the commenter is mostly speaking nonsense on that thread
 
7:44 PM
Ahh alright. That's kind of what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure I wasn't being dense
On a related note, do people usually refer to the generalizations of EL to fields or higher order derivatives as EL equations as well?
 
@danielunderwood Well...to a mathematician, "the E-L equations of a functional" are the equations for the stationary point of the functional, regardless of what functional it is. You might find physicists who use it in a narrower sense, though.
 
@danielunderwood but that said, if $L$ had higher-order derivatives, I'd still refer to the modified equation as an EL equation.
compare e.g. to the language here
In the calculus of variations, the Euler–Lagrange equation, Euler's equation, or Lagrange's equation (although the latter name is ambiguous—see disambiguation page), is a second-order partial differential equation whose solutions are the functions for which a given functional is stationary. It was developed by Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler and Italian-French mathematician Joseph-Louis Lagrange in the 1750s. Because a differentiable functional is stationary at its local maxima and minima, the Euler–Lagrange equation is useful for solving optimization problems in which, given some functional...
 
So to a mathematician, it would also cover functionals that aren't specifically a plain integral? Like it would be called E-L if you were trying to minimize something like $\left[ \int f(x) \right]^2$ or $\exp \left( \int f(x) \right)$. Though it may be worth noting that I don't know enough about functionals to know how valid it is to call those functionals
 
I think I would recommend altering the language on your post a bit
 
Why is Euler pronounced oiler?
 
7:51 PM
Yeah I was thinking that I should make some clarification of my answer
yooler
 
@enumaris as it turns out, not all languages are pronounced the same
 
they should be tho
 
@danielunderwood $(\int f)^2$ is not a functional - functionals are linear in their arguments.
 
ah, and I take it English is the model to take for everything?
 
(Only kidding bro)
 
7:53 PM
@ACuriousMind That's complete rubbish
Linear functionals are linear in their arguments
In general a functional is any function whose arguments are also functions
 
that would include functions themselves right
 
@EmilioPisanty That's complete rubbish too ;)
 
which is why when you just want the linear ones you need to explicitly spell it out
 
given an independent variable can be thought of as an identity function to itself
 
Functional is an overloaded term that may or may nor mean linear functions of functions in different contexts
 
7:54 PM
x=x e.g.
math fight!
 
In mathematics, the term functional (as a noun) has at least two meanings. In modern linear algebra, it refers to a linear mapping from a vector space V {\displaystyle V} into its field of scalars, i.e., to an element of the dual space V ∗ {\displaystyle V^{*}} . In mathematical analysis, more generally and historically, it refers to a mapping from a space X {\displaystyle X} into the real numbers, or sometimes into...
 
EP brings out the Wikipedia
let's see if ACM bring out the wolfram
 
@enumaris Wikipedia is on my side, though: "Depending on the author, such mappings may or may not be assumed to be linear[...]"
 
@enumaris if ACM takes out the tungsten then I'm bringing out the steel =P
@ACuriousMind funny, that's the bit of Wikipedia that's on my side =P
 
"depending on the author" has seemed to be an obstacle to my understanding for quite some time lol
 
7:56 PM
@EmilioPisanty By transitivity of sides, we're on the same side, then
 
@ACuriousMind I'm glad to see you agree with me
oh, man, that poem is fantastic
particularly if some native English speaker gets uppity about their language and you can dare them into reading it aloud in full
 
English is a strange one. I don't think I really understood things like conjugation until I learned Spanish
 
lol
What I always find funny is etymology
 
heh
 
@danielunderwood Well, English has almost no conjugation left :P
 
8:00 PM
like, for instance, how no one really knows where the word 'strawberry' comes from
 
rob
@Semiclassical I did not know this. OED says,
> Etymology: Old English stréaw- , stréow , stréa- , stréuberige , < stréaw straw n.1 + berige berry n.1
No corresponding word is found in any other Germanic language. The reason for the name has been variously conjectured. One explanation refers the first element to straw n.1 2, a particle of straw or chaff, a mote, describing the appearance of the achenes scattered over the surface of the strawberry; another view is that it designates the runners (compare straw n.1 3).

The view of Kluge, that Old English stréaw- in streawberige is cognate with Latin frāgum strawberry, is not phonological
 
yeah
i mean, 'berry' is not so weird
'straw' is where people shrug their shoulders
OED = Oxford English Dictionary?
 
rob
Although apparently English-speakers have been using the name for a thousand years.
 
@ACuriousMind yeah that's true now that I think about it. Future tense is just kind of replaced with "will", conditional with "would", and subjunctive tenses seem to come out of context. The past tenses are halfway irregular. My first thought was "go" which of course is "went"
 
rob
@Semiclassical Yes, the OED is a great resource.
 
8:07 PM
I ask because there's also the Online Etymology Dictionary: etymonline.com
 
the entry there is similar:
> Old English streawberige, streaberie; see straw + berry. There is no corresponding compound in other Germanic languages; the reason for the name is uncertain, but perhaps it is in reference to the tiny chaff-like external seeds which cover the fruit. A cognate Old English name was eorðberge "earth-berry" (compare Modern German Erdbeere). As a color adjective from 1670s. Strawberry blonde is attested from 1884. Strawberry mark (1847) so called for its resemblance.
 
I mean I suppose the stem of a strawberry kind of looks like straw if you really wanted to stretch your imagination
@EmilioPisanty rip English
 
@Semiclassical This German Google hit suspects the "straw" comes from the English covering the ground of their strawberry patches with straw (?)
 
I find that stuff interesting, because it's both so common to everyday life and yet the origins are so old as to be elusive
That's something I find interesting in general about language, though. We take it for granted, and yet the emergence of it is mysterious
 
8:09 PM
@danielunderwood to be fair, Spanish is almost the same in that particular regard
there is a grammatical future tense and it does see some occasional use, but mostly it uses auxiliary-verb constructions like English does
 
@Semiclassical I think precisely because we take it for granted, no one bothered to record the "obvious" reasons for why things are called certain words, and once it was no longer obvious, no one was left to record it
 
@Semiclassical I suspect you'll rather enjoy Oliver Sacks's Seeing Voices
 
plus, it's hard to record the emergence of oral language without written language to go with it
 
@EmilioPisanty Ahh I didn't know that. Most of my Spanish knowledge came from a classroom and not the real world though
 
8:11 PM
though I dunno---I sorta take for granted that oral language preceded written language
 
@danielunderwood sounds like not enough travel to the right places ;-)
but yeah, things like "comeré" are just weird
 
that's certainly common enough for how people nowadays acquire a language, e.g. a child hears its parents talking in their language and later is taught to write in that language
but was the same true as language emerged?
 
wooot
finally figured out how to do what I wanted in tableau lol
freaking unintuitive
 
language formation is one of those mysteries which I can't imagine we'll ever really penetrate
 
giggity
 
rob
8:15 PM
@ACuriousMind Oh, that's interesting. I have also read that the modern strawberry didn't evolve until the invention of the greenhouse, because birds like to eat them when they are much smaller. I wonder if a layer of straw above the berry vines allowed the human farmers to salvage more? Or it may be like the pattern today of using straw on bare ground to keep grass seed from washing/blowing away before germinating.
 
or, hear me out here, because the scarecrow from the wizard of oz liked them
 
@EmilioPisanty haceré comer? Though now that I look on google translate, it gives voy a comer, which I certainly remember things similar to. And I traveled to Costa Rica a few times and it helped, but it wasn't like I was able to live there for a while and absorb everything. On one of our trips, we were around someone my teacher knew and his son that was around 5 or so. I could understand the adults just fine most of the time, but rarely understood anything the kid said
 
The property which defines the resistance of a material to elastic deformation
Is this stiffness or hardness
 
@danielunderwood the future (1st p sing.) of 'hacer' is 'haré'
'haré comer' is... bizarre to say the least
the least unreasonable interpretation is that you will force somebody to eat
 
lol oops
 
8:18 PM
@rob The German Wikipedia article says that the European strawberry simply was a smaller species and the larger American variant didn't come into the hands of European strawberry farmers until the late 18th century.
 
The sad thing is that I haven't really gotten a chance to use Spanish since high school even though I think I was pretty proficient then
 
'haré de comer' is the closest reasonable, meaning 'I will cook (lunch/dinner)'
but really you'd just say 'voy a hacer de comer'
 
@danielunderwood my question..if u dont mind
 
@gateprep that is not an appropriate interaction on this chatroom.
 
@gateprep You have been repeatedly told that demanding an answer of people in here is not welcome. Stop it.
 
8:20 PM
I kind of want to learn German now and read papers. I'm really curious if reading a paper in a different language leads to a different understanding
@EmilioPisanty not just voy a comer?
 
@danielunderwood that's 'I will eat'
possibly also 'I am going to eat'
not 'I will cook'
 
it's always satisfying when you realize that you're missing a troublesome interaction because you've got one person on ignore. "you have chosen...wisely"
 
Ahh I didn't know something like 'hago (de?) comer' indicated cooking. I always thought that would be associated with cocinar
 
@danielunderwood both
it's maybe closer to "prepare a meal"?
I mean, it's not very useful to try and make these things fit neatly into boxes
 
the difference between being a cook and being a host, maybe?
 
8:24 PM
language translations are never neat and one-to-one
 
Ahh I think my classes tried to avoid different things that meant similar things to avoid confusing people
 
@Semiclassical not particularly, no
 
hmm, ok
 
Or maybe they did and I just picked one of them
 
@EmilioPisanty there's a bit of meta-humor there: the linguistic meaning of translation does not map nicely to the mathematical meaning of translation
 
8:25 PM
@Semiclassical heh
 
spatial translations being by their nature both simple and one-to-one :P
 
I think mathematical linguistics would be neat
 
@Semiclassical that's hilarious
 
So a translation is not a good translation of translation...weeee
 
rob
@danielunderwood A future Lojban speaker approaches
 
8:26 PM
@rob ugh
 
Oh boy
> 3.5 Lojban as a programming language
3.6 Lojban as a speakable logic
 
I hate tableau -.-
 
> further improve the language by making it more usable and freely available
o_O
 
rob
@danielunderwood I remember reading ten years ago that the world record longest conversation in Lojban lasted for something like eleven minutes.
@danielunderwood Yes, there was a copyright issue with a predecessor logical language called "Loglan".
 
@rob ah, but that's ten years ago
the world record is now twelve minutes
it grows in reverse-Moore's-law scaling
 
8:30 PM
Lojban is what happens when someone loves programming so much they wish they could speak to people like they speak to computers :P
 
@enumaris just convince everyone to change to that language and suddenly your NLP will become easy
 
rob
@EmilioPisanty It's more likely that I misremembered the number (or that you're pulling my leg)
 
it's a line in log-lin scale instead of lin-log
 
rob
@EmilioPisanty I believe you mean a log-lan © scale
 
@rob ah, that'll be why
 
8:33 PM
now I want a lojban translation of Parmenide's tautology: "It is necessary both to say and to think that being is; for it is possible that being is, and it is impossible that not-being is"
 
I have to say I enjoy the fact that this chat seems to talk about a non-physics topic every day or two. It's interesting
 
Fun fact: In Bohm's book on "Implicate Order", he's got a whole chapter on a language proposal
 
uh oh
I just got local admin rights and the IT guy called me to ask if I was done "installing software"......
wonder if they are gonna put a ban on me installing software or something
 
i tried to read it in high school. preeetty tough going
 
I hope not -.-
 
8:39 PM
Tell them you got an email from the security email about an urgent update that needed to be installed
 
vzn
Feb 10 '15 at 0:04, by ACuriousMind
@vzn Have you ever heard anyone using the "concepts" of implicate and explicate order except Bohm?
 
@danielunderwood An email is sending emails?
 
appears to be the case
 
*security team
 
8:46 PM
that A.I. nowadays
getting cray cray
 
I have a habit of typing out whatever word is in my head regardless of what I actually mean to type
I'm secretly just a poorly written NN
I want to try to create a conversational AI, but train it only with song lyrics
 
@danielunderwood Sounds beer
*legit
 
lol
Or poetry. That would be acceptable training material too
Is it bad that ML interests me more to do something completely ridiculous than something useful?
 
It's human
 
but are we dancer?
 
8:54 PM
Why yes, I am human
 
but are you dancer?
 
no sorry I'm not a reindeer
 
@danielunderwood Good for you, I hear @Slereah eats reindeers.
 
spooky
 
and delicious
 
9:01 PM
Sounds like he's not the only one
The closest I've gotten would probably be elk, though I don't really remember what it tasted like
Unless deer are similar to reindeer
 
Go home Thunderbird, you're drunk
 
I've heard of spam, but damn
 
I mean, if it can make 4.5 TB of storage appear out of nothing I'm all for it, but somehow I have my doubts :P
@danielunderwood All the viagra takes up a lot of space, yeah
 
I take a look at my spam every once in a while. It's an interesting place
hmmm
 
9:17 PM
hmmm...
 
or there's one from 'SaxyLatinWomen'
 
@danielunderwood Clearly a jazz player
 
9:51 PM
hmmmm
 
@ACuriousMind for future reference, should we flag messages for people coming in and saying they need their questions answered urgently or similar?
 
feels like my deep spelling program is actually quite close to being good enough
 
it's probably going to eventually be almost good enough
 
u cursing me to mediocrity? grrr
 
10:14 PM
aanyone know graph theory
 
nah that's just hyperbolized "quite close to good enough"
 
10:31 PM
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Q: Dark matter and the Easter Bunny

FritzThere i# no a flurry of papers discounting Dark Matter. The ESO has uncovered zillions of new galaxies. Every day, something new that has never been explained or could have an explanation is found. I have always thought that Dark Matter was used by research physicists to make an equation work. So...

At this point SE is becoming a site for rants disguised as questions...
 
10:51 PM
oh snap
it's actually not toooo baddddd
 
11:38 PM
oooooh, nice
for the chemists
like @JohnRennie
 
> ESO
elder scrolls online is finding zillions of new galaxies?
oooh that looks neat
> Look at CERN. At best a very large microwave and scientists still have problems with math - thus the Higgs Bosun
 
what do you get if you make Peter Higgs the ranking officer on deck of a merchant ship?

a Higgs Bosun, of course
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Well I didn't know what that was, so now we're back to words
> boatswain, bo's'n, bos'n, or bosun
 
I joined that site just to downvote lol
Although I'm going to have to question "put on hold as primarily opinion-based"
Clearly I don't understand how word roots work etymonline.com/word*bheid-
 
11:55 PM
wowzah, looking through 100 comments, this spell corrector thing is doing quite well :D :D :D
 
And whoever decided to allow an asterisk in a url has lost their mind
 
@danielunderwood I don't think that link is working like you expected it to
 
:DDDDDDDD
 
put it inside backticks and we can copy-paste
 
11:56 PM
or maybe do [link](url) syntax
 
Oh those would probably have worked too
 
I'm a stable genius
 
I tried a \*, but that didn't seem to work
 
@danielunderwood here's one to consider if you want to go back to words:
what's with the sound of the vowel "o" in the word "one"? and what are other English words with the same vowel (i.e. spelled "o" and pronounced the same)?
(spoiler alert - the second question is a trick question =P)
 
Well there's won that makes the same sound and has an o lol
The w is silent
but modifies the rest of the pronunciation :D
 
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