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@SirCumference we are wasting our time

Sir Cumference

@AccidentalFourierTransform Yeah, I've given up

@AccidentalFourierTransform @SirCumference what's up?

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+5/-5 votes already

I dont get people

ACuriousMind

8:11 PM

@0celouvskyopoulo7 I'm not sure I follow your argument or where I'm supposed to help :D

@DanielSank I think I don't understand what situation you're describing

That is, in no scenario I picture after that description can I imagine the loop of string being pulled over at all, so I must be picturing it wrongly

@ACuriousMind Close your eyes and hit your head on the table

You'll see it then

^^^

I thought that I got the picture, but the answer was obviously "the string is not gonna be pulled over at any angle"

Suppose the cone is very, very shallow.

E.g. 1 degree shy of being a flat disk.

You don't think the string will be pulled off?

@DanielSank Halp

ACuriousMind

In the picture in my head I don't see how it could be "pulled off" without ripping

8:21 PM

@AccidentalFourierTransform What do you not understand? They don't want the devs to spend time on this because they think it's not important.

Perhaps you disagree, but surely you see the logic.

@BernardoMeurer 'sup?

ArtOfCode

the sky, still

@DanielSank I need basic logic help because I'm being silly

@ACuriousMind Well, suppose the cone is really flat, i.e. a disk. Then surely I can move the loop around without it ripping, yeah?

ArtOfCode

haven't managed to knock it down yet

Suppose I have a CSV with 7 fields

8:22 PM

@ArtOfCode Keep trying.

and n entries

(i.e. a nx7 matrix)

uh huh

Use numpy.

No, no, ged demmit

This is C

I'm writing a parser

oh

ArtOfCode

use numpy anyway ;)

8:23 PM

Hear me out

@DanielSank I agree with that, but that's not really their attitude towards the post. They are trying to argue that there is no problem at all, not that the problem is not important enough

^

Wait

No

there is a problem

I got this

8:23 PM

and I might agree that it is not really that urgent

@AccidentalFourierTransform Uh... I read the first few comments etc. and the feeling I got was pretty much "yeah, but this isn't that big of a deal".

> Deleting an account is not a trivial task, so going through that process over and over for this somewhat minor (and largely inconsequential) benefit would be really difficult to miss — assuming anyone would even bother at all.

> Perhaps if there was more benefit to up-voting a comment, it might warrant additional protections. But this is the kind of hypothetical problem you might want to see demonstrated in actual practice before deeming it a problem at all.

there are a couple of comments that say that

That's the top answer.

but most of them are just "no, not a problem"

Here's the first line of the second answer:

> While I agree this can be annoying and unfair, I don't think it justifies spending development time.

8:25 PM

I dont know, perhaps Im just focusing on the comments that I found unreasonable

^

Yep.

but, oh well, some of them are unreasonable :-P

ZOMG somebody on the internet is wrong!

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

my point was essentially that "Huge problem, maybe not. Something for developers to bear in mind, IMHO, yes."

and the many downvotes and hostile comments were completely unwarranted

I didn't see anything hostile.

I didn't look that hard though.

The responses all seem to be "yeah, you're right that this could happen, but it's not a big deal".

8:27 PM

whatever, not really that important

yep

back to the angle thingy

yep

I think I got the picture right

it seemed impossible for the string to be pulled over because I was imagining the cone way too narrow

but I agree that if its flat enough, it would probably be pulled over

so, what's the angle...

hmm

@ACuriousMind ^

8:30 PM

I guess that it should be 45º?

Why?

because that's what my brain told me

:P

Show your work.

argh, I think I have the right image in my head, but I cannot put it into words

I imagine the string to be completely horizontal

and moving the mass a bit downwards

and the other end of the string should move upwards

hmmm

and the answer is 42º

@AccidentalFourierTransform I think that reasoning should work, but you have to remember this is a 3D problem.

8:36 PM

and the string is inextensible

@AccidentalFourierTransform correct

@AccidentalFourierTransform That's not what I got. How'd you get that?

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Ah yes.

pi/6

How'd you get that?