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user228700

8:00 AM

^Northern India.

user116211

I love Ruskin Bond's writings.

user116211

His short stories are awesome.

user228700

And then u can decide if u want to go to the places he describes.

DanielSank

@Kaumudi ok

cool

Thanks!

user116211

I read his poem on his grandma who could climb tree ;)

user228700

8:01 AM

@MAFIA36790: Yeah, Ruskin Bond toh <3

DanielSank

Obviously I'm not going to hop on a plane right now. There's time to talk and plan.

user116211

@DanielSank sure.

DanielSank

Anna and I like to go on trips.

India sounds fun.

We went to Japan after we got married.

That was a really fun trip. I remember it mostly from the food.

user116211

I want to visit Scotland; if I want something ;)

user228700

@DanielSank :-) If u come next year, after May, if I've gotten into an institute in some place u've decided to go, then I could totally show u guys around :-D

user116211

8:02 AM

and then Russia.

DanielSank

@MAFIA36790 Russia??!!

user116211

yes.

John Rennie

Possibly the word "so" with a bit of rearrangement:
I went to bed **because** I was tired
I was tired **so** I went to bed

DanielSank

@MAFIA36790 Почему ты хочеш поехать в Россий?

user116211

Google translate....

DanielSank

8:04 AM

@JohnRennie Thinking...

user228700

Eight year have passed
Since I placed my cherry seed in the grass.
“Must have a tree of my own,” I said,
And watered it once and went to bed
And forgot; but cherries have a way of growing,
Though no one’s caring very much or knowing.

user228700

And suddenly that summer near the end of May,
I found a tree had come to stay.
It was very small, five months child,
Lost in the tall grass running wild.
Goats ate the leaves, the grass cutter’s scythe
Split it apart and a monsoon blight
Shrivelled the slender stem…… Even so,
Next spring I watched three new shoots grow,
The young tree struggle, upward thrust
Its arms in a fresh fierce lust
For light and air and sun.

John Rennie

Or the word "for" might work, thought that's a little archaic:
I went to bed **for** I was tired

DanielSank

@JohnRennie Interesting...

user228700

I could only wait, as one
Who watched, wandering, while Time and the rain
Made a miracle from green growing pain…….
I went away next year-
Spent a season in Kashmir—
Came back thinner, rather poor,
But richer by a cherry tree at my door.
Six feet high my own dark cherry,
And- I could scarcely believe it-a berry.
Ripended and jeweled in the sun,
Hung from a branch—just one!
And next year there were blossoms small
Pink, fragile, quick to fall
At the merest breath, the sleepiest breeze. ….

user228700

8:06 AM

I lay on the grass, at ease,
Looking up through leaves at the blue
Blind sky, at the finches as they flew
And flitted through the dappled green.
While bees in an ecstasy drank
Of nector from each bloom and the sun sank
Swiftly, and the stars turned in the sky,
And moon-moths and singing crickets and I—
Yes, I!— praised Night and Stars and tree:
That small, the cherry, grown by me.

John Rennie

Is this all leading up to a line with because in it that doesn't scan? :-)

user228700

That's the poem "The Cherry tree" by Ruskin Bond. To give u all an idea about his work :-)

user116211

@DanielSank Well, from the very childhood, I had dreams of visiting Siberia and Russia. There is no specific reason; but I really want to. One of my aunt's husband lives there working as a photographer.

DanielSank

@JohnRennie Eh?

Secret

Ok nvm, I only need to rotate the state slightly

$$(a\lvert 1\rangle+b\lvert 0\rangle) \otimes (c\lvert 1\rangle+d\lvert 0\rangle)=bd\lvert 00\rangle+ad\lvert 10\rangle+bc\lvert 01\rangle+ac\lvert 11\rangle$$

$$e^{iHt}(bd\lvert 00\rangle+ad\lvert 10\rangle+bc\lvert 01\rangle+ac\lvert 11\rangle)=b'd\lvert 00\rangle+ad\lvert 10\rangle+bc\lvert 01\rangle+ac\lvert 11\rangle$$

thus I can create an entangled state this way

John Rennie

8:08 AM

@Kaumudi: I'm not a huge fan of poetry though I enjoy word games. Have you heard of a poet called Ogden Nash? He writes doggerel rather than poetry, but it's funny because of the clever way he uses words.

Secret

(continue on the marble analogy in the next post)

user116211

@JohnRennie, You explored Scotland, right?

user228700

@JohnRennie Hey, I've heard of Ogden Nash!

John Rennie

@MAFIA36790 No. I've only been to Scotland twice and only for a short time in both cases

user228700

@DanielSank: BTW, what did u think of that poem?

user116211

8:10 AM

ohh.

DanielSank

@MAFIA36790 Интересно. Ему нравится там жить?

user116211

Google Translate....

John Rennie

@Kaumudi sentimental twaddle

DanielSank

^ The British really are silver tongued, are they not?

John Rennie

nostalgic sentimental twaddle

DanielSank

8:11 AM

^ I rest my case.

user116211

@DanielSank I don't know. I have not talked with him for years. But he showed some pics; he loved his place; I liked the pics too.

John Rennie

@DanielSank :-)

DanielSank

Grace us, good sir @JohnRennie, with an example of fine poetry, that which delights your wit and satisfies your soul.

Or, otherwise, do shut up.

John Rennie

Celery, raw
Develops the jaw,
But celery, stewed,
Is more quietly chewed.
- Ogden Nash

True genius :-)

DanielSank

::Wonders if others find that as funny as I did...::

@JohnRennie -_-

I thought @Kaumudi's poem was the dog's bollocks.

(Am I doing it right?)

John Rennie

8:14 AM

The one - l lama
He's a priest.
The two - l llama
He's a beast.
And I will bet
A silk pajama
There isn't any
Three - l lllama.
- Ogden Nash

user116211

@JohnRennie This is harder than Bourbaki ;/

user116211

Maybe it's Nazi enigma....

DanielSank

@JohnRennie Somewhat droll, I suppose.

John Rennie

And this is a tad misogynist by modern standards, but it makes me laugh every time:

Go clothe your lower limbs in pants!
Deck yourself out, my sweeting.
You look divine as you advance,
Have you seen yourself retreating?
- Ogden Nash

user116211

...

DanielSank

8:16 AM

@JohnRennie Eh?

I don't get that one.

user116211

1 min ago, by MAFIA36790

Maybe it's Nazi enigma....

John Rennie

@DanielSank just put it behind you :-)

"Alas and Alack", the young girl raged,
"How long must I wait to get engaged?"
Her problem was a beau who shied,
From the day the nuptial knot be tied.
Her solution, it was both quick and neat,
She swept the lad from off his feet.
No feminine guiles, that's not the way,
'Twas a baseball bat that carried the day.

I can keep this up for hours :-)

user116211

Don't you read scifi @JohnRennie; from where are these coming?

DanielSank

@JohnRennie I don't doubt it.

John Rennie

@MAFIA36790 I'm a cultured man! You shouldn't let my love of doggerel and fart jokes persaude you otherwise :-)

DanielSank

8:20 AM

My beard grows down to my toes.
I never wears no clothes.
I wraps my hair around my bare
and down the road I goes.
--Shel Silverstein

user116211

ohh... okay, okay, sir.

DanielSank

@JohnRennie Your move.

user116211

So, is this a duel?

user116211

Pick up some pistols, then.

John Rennie

Ooh, I haven't heard of Shel Silverstein but that sounds just my type of poetry. A-Googling I shall go ...

@Kaumudi: I bet you're sorry you started this now :-)

user116211

8:22 AM

@JohnRennie, try Wordsworth.

user116211

Then Tennyson.

user116211

Two of my favourites.

John Rennie

Insufferably wet the pair of them

user116211

Ulysses? It was an amazing piece.

DanielSank

@JohnRennie !!!

John Rennie

8:24 AM

Now Byron, that's a different matter. Yes he was a tw*t, but my goodness he wrote some good stuff.

DanielSank

Every American child has several Shel Silverstein volumes on their bookshelf.

user116211

I only heard of Frankenstein.

DanielSank

@JohnRennie Like I said: that silver tongue of the Brit.

user116211

No other steins.

John Rennie

@DanielSank well they were. I wondered lonely as a cloud - good grief man, grow a pair.

DanielSank

8:25 AM

:|

John Rennie

I had a dream, which was not all a dream,
The bright sun was extinguish’d, and the stars
Did wander darkling in the eternal space,
Rayless, and pathless; and the icy earth
Swung blind and blackening in the moonless air
Morn came and went—and came, and brought no day,
And men forgot their passions in the dread
Of this their desolation: and all hearts
Were chill’d into a selfish prayer for light:

DanielSank

There was once a man called John Rennie.
In his pocket was nary a penny.
But physics he knew
and his rep points grew
after questions he answered so many.
--Daniel Sank

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Your move.

::drops the mic::

@JohnRennie ?

John Rennie

@DanielSank my move? You just responded to a poem by Lord Byron with a limerick of your own, and you think that levels the score?

I call Shelley to the stand:

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.'

DanielSank

@JohnRennie Uh yeah. In a battle of wit, one wins not by citing the victories of his predecessors.

John Rennie

I've been to Egypt and seen the statue of Rhamesses that inspired the poem, though it's now been put back upright again.

DanielSank

8:31 AM

The Byron poem makes no sense.

And the Shelly one is just some guy blowing his own horn.

John Rennie

Poets eh? They should get a proper job! :-)

DanielSank

You can't just repeat Eminem in a rap battle...

@JohnRennie Indeed.

Secret

MAFIA, Danielsank
Basically what I have in mind about entanglement is like this:

1. There are two marbles of no color, which we knew it will randomly become R G B or combinations thereof if you touch one of them. What color each marble become is entirely determined by this underlying probability and not some underlying thing such as the marble has some predefined color or how your touch it. The color each marble take when it is touched is independent on what happened to the other marble. We can determine the probability of the two marbles (Two marble probability) for all possible color com…

DanielSank

Ok.

user228700

@JohnRennie Ah, I know where Ik Ogden Nash from!

Secret

8:34 AM

so in a nutshell, I am treating the wavefunction as an intrinsic property like charge that can be swapped around like a thing

and that kinda makes sense because wavefunction evolution is determinstic

user228700

I listen to this podcast called "Dear Hank & John", which features a short poem at the start of every episode.

Secret

Step 2 is what I am trying to understand what happened during entanglement, which is why this marble analogy arises

DanielSank

@Secret During entanglement you go from a factorable probability distribution to a not-factorable one.

user228700

Oh, man, there was this great poem by him that they read!

user228700

@JohnRennie: I loved it. I'll let u know when I find it again...

John Rennie

8:37 AM

@Kaumudi I might know it, can you remember what it was about?

user228700

Idk. I feel like it was about a cherry..? I ate the cherry that u had saved, something like that..?

user228700

@DanielSank Oh, I KNOW, right?!

John Rennie

Hmmm, that doesn't ring a bell ...

user228700

Yeah :/ It was great! Hang on...

user228700

@JohnRennie Actually, not at all :-D

user228700

8:40 AM

I write a little poetry myself...

Secret

However, I am not sure if this captures EVERYTHING in Bell's theorem.
e.g. in order to produce the cosine dependence on angle when the two parties measures the composite system, I suspect that the correlation between the probabilities has to be a form such that when squarerooted, obeys linear superposition

user228700

Though @JohnRennie: Definitely not ur type :-)

John Rennie

@Kaumudi is that why you wanted a one syllable word for because?

user228700

@JohnRennie That was DanielSank, not me :-P

John Rennie

Oh yes. Oops, sorry.

user228700

8:43 AM

A different one, this:

user228700

I find it very difficult to enthuse
Over the current news.
Just when you think that at least the outlook is so black that it can grow no blacker, it worsens,
And that is why I do not like the news, because there has never been an era when so many things were going so right for so many of the wrong persons

user228700

-Everyone tells me everything, Ogden Nash, the one I heard on the podcast. Definitely not about cherries :-P

John Rennie

Aha :-)

user228700

U knew this one?

Danu

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Q: Any connection between uncountably infinitely many differentiable manifolds of dimension 4 and the spacetime having dimension four?

I am self studying GR through lectures videos and the lecturer told something that was mind-blowing for a beginner like me. Maybe this question is a naive one because of my lack of knowledge in differential geometry. The number of differential manifolds with up-to diffeomorpshism of dimension 1...

John Rennie

8:47 AM

@Kaumudi No, but Ogden Nash must have written thousands of poems. I only remember the few that I particularly like.

Danu

Oh confused physicists and differential geometry :D I remember I was exactly like this 3 years ago...

user228700

@JohnRennie: This is the one about plums (not even cherries :-P)

user228700

m.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/just-say

John Rennie

The cherry is a berry
That makes me merry
Most unlike the plum
Which makes me glum.

user228700

:-)

user228700

8:49 AM

Wait, did u write that?

John Rennie

'Fraid so ...

user228700

:-D

user228700

Nice!

John Rennie

Couldn't you see the mark of genius within it? :-)

user228700

Haha, definitely :-D

user228700

8:50 AM

My poems are waaay different.

user228700

Besides, I've written only like, two. Yeah, I suck, but those two I'm proud of...

John Rennie

The problem with cherries is all the pits
The problem with plums is they give me the ...

I couldn't think of a rhyme for the last line of the poem.

user228700

One is about my mother and the other about a soulmate. Bet u wouldn't like either of them :-P

user228700

@JohnRennie Lol, sir, how are u so good at so many things? :-)

John Rennie

Girls write soppy poetry - all love and flowers :-)

user228700

8:52 AM

:-P Perhaps.

user228700

OK, this has been wonderful but I'm afraid I must get back to Math! Or Chemistry! Something! :-P

John Rennie

Yes, I need to get back to work for a few minutes, but I'll leave you with another of my masterpieces:

Bolting food from off the plate,
Causes one to eructate.
While eating like a greedy pig must
Always lead to borborygmus.
These two afflictions are not meet,
When in company you eat.
But worse, for those with a social sense,
Is a healthy burst of flatulence.

Danu

@JohnRennie And we're supposed to believe that.

Qmechanic

9:11 AM

@DanielSank : Here is one of Shel Silverstein's more adult themed songs: Freakin' At The Freaker's Ball. Hilarious!

Danu

:)

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