The h Bar

0celo7

12:00 AM

@ACuriousMind wot

ACuriousMind

@Majid I think we discussed that very question above and concluded we're not sure.

0celo7

@Majid According to Arnold (Mathematical Methods of Classical Mechanics), that part is true for all $n$

But after our recent talk I'm not sure

It's been many years since I read that

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 As a ring, $S$ has addition and a zero. The morphism $\phi:R\to S$ defines scalar multiplication by $r\cdot s := \phi(r)s$. Thus $S$ is an $R$-module.

The multiplication is just the multiplication in $S$.

0celo7

Oh yeah

I had that figured out

ACuriousMind

So why the "wot"?

0celo7

12:03 AM

I guess I was confused because there's no field

@ACuriousMind I was confused before, figured it out, then uhh

Majid

@AccidentalFourierTransform sure

0celo7

Forgot?

Balarka Sen

@0celo7 You know doCarmo chapter 6, right?

0celo7

Yes

very important stuff

Balarka Sen

I am confused as to why we need the transpose in $S_\eta(x) = -(\bar{\nabla}_x N)^T$ in prop 2.3

Might be because I haven't slept yet

0celo7

12:07 AM

Transpose?

Is that not the tangential component

Balarka Sen

Oh is it?

0celo7

the notation is defined on p. 126

Balarka Sen

I thought it's the transpose of the linear transformation of $T_pM$.

lol. that explains a lot.

0celo7

no, see, $y$ is tangent to $M$

Balarka Sen

Yeah, I got it.

0celo7

12:08 AM

k

Balarka Sen

nabla bar doesn't live on M, it lives on bar M

0celo7

yup

Balarka Sen

Tnx

So this is of course just a generalization of the fact that shape operator for surfaces in R^3 is directional derivative of the Gauss map, modulo a sign

0celo7

yeah

that's on the bottom of the next page

Balarka Sen

ah, right, i just noticed

I'm going to speedread this until 6 AM. y o l o

0celo7

12:15 AM

do exercise 11

Phase

@0celo7 Sit down, be humble

Majid

@0celo7 Ok and thanks anyway

Balarka Sen

@0celo7 Thanks, noted.

@Phase My last syrup just went viral / that chicken sandwich put my syrup on a spiral

Have you seen the google translated It's Everyday Bro?

It's Everyday Bro but Google Translate makes the lyrics better

►

0celo7

@ACuriousMind does this chat make you feel old?

Phase

Sorry

Not allowed to watch Everyday bro

No-one in England is allowed to, it's banned in the whole city

ACuriousMind

12:19 AM

@0celo7 No, just bewildered.

Balarka Sen

@Phase "England is my castle" - google translated Nick Crompton

You should, like, really watch this.

0celo7

@ACuriousMind once S7E7 airs, can we discuss spoilers

@BalarkaSen do Carmo mentions minimal surfaces, but I don't think that's up your alley

Balarka Sen

@0celo7 yeah I am not actually super fascinated by minimal surfaces

0celo7

@BalarkaSen I'm on the gmt superhighway because of minimal surfaces

Balarka Sen

is that C^0 minimal surface theory or what

0celo7

12:29 AM

@BalarkaSen Roughly, if you take a limit of a manifold it might not be a manifold

you have these things called varifolds and currents that generalize manifolds and chains

also in the regularity theory for mean curvature flow you might have singularities so you need a GMT treatment

Balarka Sen

I see, interesting

0celo7

@BalarkaSen It's a problem with any kind of variational problem where the object is a graph or whatever and can be interpreted as a manifold

Balarka Sen

Btw, the proof of Gaussian curvature = Riemann curvature tensor (in particular proof of Theorema Egregium) that follows from what doCarmo does is very nice

0celo7

@BalarkaSen Except that nowhere does he prove that the curvature is invariant under isometries :)

Balarka Sen

@0celo7 chains as in, homological chains?

0celo7

12:35 AM

@BalarkaSen Integration over chains

The idea is to represent manifolds as measures

Integration over chains gives a measure

Balarka Sen

ah. strange.

0celo7

I don't know much more, hence why I am reading gmt

@BalarkaSen It's actually a subtle point that the Riemann curvature is "invariant" under isometries

You can sort of argue that an isometry leaves the coordinate form of the metric invariant, so the curvature should be invariant. But there's a clean abstract argument.

Balarka Sen

Hm. For surface I know that Gaussian curvature only depends on the first fundamental form, the metric, so in that case it's not too hard modulo the proof of that.

Which is basically fiddling with coordinates. I guess this is what you're speaking of

I don't know the abstract argument

0celo7

einsteinandtheevidence.wordpress.com/2016/03/29/…

Balarka Sen

Curvature appears in the Taylor series expansion of the metric, IIRC

0celo7

12:39 AM

these two explain it

Balarka Sen

Reading, thanks

i see. so this is basically just knowing $f^* \nabla = \nabla$ for an isometry $f$

which, as you say, follows from fighting with the Koszul formula. This is nice.

That's a very simple proof. I always forget that $\nabla$ is related to $g$ in a unique way and I keep missing obvious facts which follows from this

0celo7

@BalarkaSen Right. I said that's a heuristic because one has to be kind of careful with the spaces floating around

Balarka Sen

Yep I know you were being careful with notation there.

0celo7

@BalarkaSen Exercise: Prove, with this method, that geodesics are carried into geodesics.

Balarka Sen

If $\alpha$ is a geodesic on $M$, $\nabla_{T} T = 0$ where $T$ is a small extension of the tangent field $\alpha'$ along the curve. If $f : M \to M$ is an isometry, $f$ carries $\alpha$ to $f \circ \alpha$, (a small extension of) the tangent field to which is nothing but $df(T)$.

But $\nabla_{df(T)} df(T) = df(\nabla_T T) = 0$.

So yeah, $f \circ \alpha$ is a geodesic.

0celo7

12:52 AM

yup

Balarka Sen

Whoa cool, totally geodesic submanifolds are precisely the ones with $\Bbb{II}_p(x, x) = 0$ for all $p$ and $x \in T_p M$ (for any choice of normal vector that II depends on).

Peasy to prove, but still cool.

Oh damn, so now I know why Gaussian curvature of a small bit of a 2-subspace of $T_p M$ is exactly the sectional curvature of that subspace.

0celo7

@BalarkaSen yes

skullpatrol

2:15 AM

Welcome @SierraSorongon to The hBar.

Secret

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Q: Could we ever kill 2 schodinger's cats?

In the following setup I'll be testing entanglement with 2 cats, namely Mew0 and Mew1 both are positioned exactly a light year away from each other. 2 identical bombs will be strapped to each cat and they will be confined to their respective boxes, you get the idea. Now things are starting to ge...

::Cat lovers protests::

0celo7

2:42 AM

@Secret meh

there are too many cats

we can sacrifice some in the name of science

skullpatrol

-_-

0celo7

Close your mouth

a cat hair might fly in it

skullpatrol

better?

0celo7

open your eyes

an assassin could kill you better with your eyes closed

Prathyush Poduval

3:38 AM

@AHB Don't worry, I didn't have any hope in translating. I did see some equations, which gave me the hint of the problem (Was one of them green's reciprocity theorum?)

Nick Alexeev

4:59 AM

Should I migrate this to Physics.SE? Does it pass the "don't migrate crap" test?

0

Q: Explain me the flow of current in wire in quantum mechanics

I want to know moving of electrons in wire. One direction? Or random?

current electron

Slereah

John Rennie

@NickAlexeev Hi Nick. We would almost certainly close that as "too broad" or "insufficient effort".

Where you understand that "insufficient effort" actually means "don't be an idle b*****d" :-)

Secret

[4 weeks and still no progress on that program]
ugh, I hate bash

The f*** is stout and all those alien terms!

skullpatrol

5:19 AM

question: when referring to this chat room from the outside, do we prefer to say 1) "the h Bar", 2) "The H Bar", 3) "the hbar", or 4) "the $\hbar$"? Actually, @Jim the title of this chat room is "The h Bar"

That^ would be my preference :-)

John Rennie

@Secret stout? Did you mean stdout?

@skullpatrol I say the physics chat room and provide a link

skullpatrol

...informally, yes.

I like your way better, actually @JohnRennie

Secret

Code fragment in detail:

steps=($(python read_steps.py $1| tr -d '[],'))

echo "steps"
echo $steps

python code:

# Read_steps module
import sys
def read_steps(filename):

#Obtain information from template<num>.com
with open('template'+str(filename)+'.com','rU') as f:
line = f.readlines()

#Obtain torsion scanning information
scan = [int(i) for i in line[9].split()]
steps = str(range(scan[0]+1))
angles = [x*scan[1] for x in steps]

print steps

read_steps(sys.argv[1])
sys.exit()

If I run the python code by itself using python read_steps.py 000, it prints the following list as expected

[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120]

But if I tried to run this bash script, it only prints:

steps
0

so somehow it only can register the 0th element and forgot the rest of the list (which is converted to a string

John Rennie

What does tr -d '[],' do?

Secret

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26162394/convert-a-python-data-list-to-a-bash-array

It trims away the [] and the , characters so it becomes a bash array

The full code is henious because it consists of 4 sections that need to run in sequence and I have already wrote 9 modules because of that

The code fragment above is just to grab the endpoint of a forloop to submit the files

John Rennie

5:36 AM

If I do steps=($(echo [0, 1, 2, 3] | tr -d '[],')) I get the same result i.e. steps gets set to just 0

so it's obviously something in the syntax for setting the variable steps

Secret

I wonder if bash is thinking [ and ] are special characters?

John Rennie

This works:

administrator@test10:~$ steps=$(echo [0, 1, 2, 3] | tr -d '[],')
administrator@test10:~$ echo $steps
0 1 2 3

But note that:

administrator@test10:~$ steps=($steps)
administrator@test10:~$ echo $steps
0

So you have one set of brackets too many

Secret

Those extra brackets are needed to specify bash arrays if I recall the syntax for bash arrays as variable=(stuff stuff stuff)

So I am not sure if bash can step through step as if it is an array in the for loop. Let me try and see if it works...

6666
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Yes, it works!

Thanks

(NB 6666 is just a spacer to help me track the for loop during debuging)

Leaky Nun

@Secret press Ctrl+K before sending a message to prettify codes

why do you have to use Bash? Python by itself looks fine

Secret

because motherf*** qsub of PBS pro (that is where all the nightmare came from)

Leaky Nun

5:49 AM

alright

Secret

I need its afterok function to ensure program block 2 runs after program block 1 and etc.

This whole thing has 4 blocks

and I am currently still in the 1st block

The whole program works as follows:

Step 1: Generate 120 molecule orientations and sent to gaussian to calculate energies
Step 2: After all 120 files finishes and with no error, send the 3 lowest energy of them to optimise geometry
Step 3: After Step 2 is finished with no error, send the optimised geometry to frequency analysis and wavefunction stability check

Step 4: (technically a separate block) For those calculations where one of the 120 jobs failed to complete hence resulting in incomplete potential energy surface, need to use another sscript to do step 2 and step 3 for these programs

what I have done so far is I ave spent nearly 4 weeks writing the python component of step 1-4. Now I am writing the bash component to link them all up and this is where PBS hell came from

Leaky Nun

I'm not sure if there is something bash can do that Python can't...

Secret

The major trouble is the job queing software that the cluster uses: PBS pro. I don't know of any easy way to parse all 120 exit codes from each qsub job back to python thus informing it to start executing the step 2 script

Johnrennie: Btw I think I start to have some idea why the double bracket does not work: After the string [0,...,120] is obtained and then [] , removed, enclosing it with the extra paranthesis caused bash to interpret as a subshell hence returning only 0

This is what is happening before it is assigned to steps: -bash: 0: command not found

the error prevent the next elements (which are separated by space) to be read by bash

Emilio Pisanty

10:30 AM

@AccidentalFourierTransform yeah, what's wrong with it?

It's perfectly transparent

djsmiley2k

10:50 AM

wibble

hows everyone on this fine friday.

skullpatrol

11:02 AM

chillin u?

djsmiley2k

reconfiguring much misconfigured monitoring at work

which is at least, easy ;D

tho.... why these switches aren't monitored is concerning me

also allowed to sit listening to music while I do it, which is grrrrrrrrr8

John Rennie

@djsmiley2k we don't usually bother monitoring switches since they hardly every go wrong.

djsmiley2k

Nod, but I can't even ping this one @JohnRennie

the rest I can at least ping.

(the staff in these stores like to unplug things for no reason.... etc)

John Rennie

If you're really lucky the staff manage to connect both ends of a patch cable to the switch and cause a broadcast storm. I've seen a few of those in my time :-)

skullpatrol

11:22 AM

Have you ever seen a network melt down?

djsmiley2k

@JohnRennie we had TALKTALK do that just last week....

Secret

[Philosophy]

in Mathematics, 3 mins ago, by Mats Granvik

Why is there change in the universe?

0celo7

@JohnRennie is it not also strange that my HDD benchmarks well below expectations

81 MBs read for a 7200 rpm drive

Maybe there's something wrong with my CPU/mobo

djsmiley2k

11:54 AM

@0celo7 that to me, sounds about 'normal...'

Depending on how it was tested

John Rennie

12:12 PM

@djsmiley2k It's slow for an SSD

Anonymous

@0celo7 What book? I know that there are plenty of crap books by Indian authors. But few are very good.

Anonymous

For example the one by Shankar.

Qmechanic

0

Q: Musical isomorphism induced by Lagrangian (in chart)

I seem to have run into a (I guess largely mathematical/strucural) problem with the definition of the musical isomorphism $$\flat:T\mathcal{M}^d\to T^\ast\mathcal{M}^d$$ between velocity phase space (tangent bundle) and phase space (cotangent bundle) over a d-dimensional configuration space $\mat...

classical-mechanics lagrangian-formalism differential-geometry tensor-calculus

To buy the community some extra time, I have temporarily locked this post, since it is currently just 2 vote short of a migration to Mathematics. Note that the Phys.SE community usually welcomes math questions relevant for physics. Is migration what we really want?...[October 30th, 2017: Unlocked.]

0celo7

@Blue "Probability Theory" by Varadhan

@JohnRennie I said HDD

@Blue I was taking the class but there was a topics course at the same time

I'll take probability next year

Anonymous

12:30 PM

@0celo7 Oh. I guess there are more rigourous books which will be suitable for you. The amazon reviews do clearly indicate that the book is more suitable for review purpose than a full-fledged course.

Anonymous

Anyhow, I hope you will get a better book to help you out. :)

0celo7

what

I never said it was bad

it looks really good

It's completely rigorous

I'm sad I won't be taking the class, hope the timing works out next year

Anonymous

You said it is a "doubtful" book

0celo7

it's a meme

all Indians are doubtful

Anonymous

Heh. Everything has become a meme nowadays.

Anonymous

12:32 PM

:P

Anonymous

You're becoming like @BalarkaSen

0celo7

that's probably not a good thing

Anonymous

@0celo7 I too had to drop my Machine Learning course this semester. I'm sad about that. :/ Too many stupid courses like carpentry and engineering drawing this year.

0celo7

carpentry??????????????????????

Balarka Sen

gotta build shit yo

Anonymous

12:37 PM

@0celo7 Yeah. Carpentry and Fitting workshop. It's fun but wastes a lot of time.

Anonymous

Compulsory in 1st sem

Anonymous

Lol...I wrote worship

Anonymous

Perhaps they teach it so that we don't go jobless :'D

0celo7

books are insane

by book list for this semester has 20 books

Anonymous

BTW the physics professor approved my project idea. I'll be working on improving effeciency of (over-the-air) wireless chargers (yay!). One of my friends joined me for the project too. Currently doing a literature search on the topic. :)

AHB

12:49 PM

@PrathyushPoduval Then you don't need that site for making a problem! You can make up many yourself. There are many Green's reciprocity theorem problems throughout Olympiad.

djsmiley2k

Can you Turn Coal/Carbon in to Diamonds with Hydraulic Press

►

I think you guys might enjoy this ;)

Could you make graphine like this....

squash it to 1 atom thick? :D

Slereah

what's the most general definition of "n-dimensional"

A manifold is easy to define as n-dimensional, but what about a more general topological space

Is a cross 1-dimensional

Feels like it should be in some sense

Balarka Sen

there are various notions of topological dimension

Slereah

plz do go on

Is it the inductive dimension thing?

Balarka Sen

uh, yeah, or there is the covering dimension

which is defined to be the minimum ply over all the covers of the topological space, where ply of the cover iirc means the least N such that every point belongs to at most N open sets in the cover

Slereah

1:06 PM

Hm

What would be the dimension of a cross with that definition

I think the middle of the cross would fuck it up

Balarka Sen

actually my definition of covering dimension is not quite right

Slereah

Yeah it's actually like N+1

Since if you do a cover of a line, you might get points where the refinement will always leave points in 2 covers

for instance

I think if you have a cross you'll get a minimum ply of 4

So 3 "dimensions"

djsmiley2k

oh god my head hurts.

Blackholes storing infomation as holograms..

0celo7

@Slereah you can demand that your thing is in R^k, for k large

Then you can use Hausdorff dimension

Slereah

What if it can't be embedded in $R^k$

Then so much egg on your face!

Though I'm guessing there's no good definition of dimension that gives all the correct dimensions for specific cases

0celo7

1:15 PM

If it can't be embedded in R^k, it's not very geometric

Slereah

Long line is fairly 1-dimensional

0celo7

@BalarkaSen Oh I forgot to say that there's a regularity theory for varifolds, i.e. Showing these abstract measures arise as volume integration over manifolds

That's really interesting to me

Slereah

Even worse

if you drop the manifold requirement

Balarka Sen

@Slereah The covering dimension is the minimum N such that every open cover of the space has an open refinement with ply at most N + 1. So for the cross, I guess N = 2 at the cross point?

Slereah

you can have a Very Long Line

Secret

1:18 PM

$\omega_2 \times [0,1)$

Slereah

@BalarkaSen : Take an open cover of the lower right, upper right, lower left and upper left

I don't think you can have a refinement where the center is in less than 4 open sets

Balarka Sen

Uhh, I guess you are right.

So N = 3.

Secret

Family of long lines: $\omega_{\alpha} \times [0,1), \alpha \in \text{On}$

Slereah

yeah

even worse I think if it has $N$ branches it will have dimension $N$

Balarka Sen

yeah

and this thing is of course not defined for super dumb, non 1st countable spaces i believe

Slereah

1:21 PM

Well it would just have non-countable dimensions :p

Secret

$(\omega_1+1) \times [0,1)$ is not 1st countable if I recall

Slereah

On the other hand

A cross defined as a branched manifold would be 1 dimensional, on the other hand

Balarka Sen

@Slereah Ugh

John Rennie

@0celo7 Ah, OK, in that case the speed is about right for an HDD.

0celo7

@JohnRennie google says it should be 200

My write speed is 170

John Rennie

1:28 PM

@0celo7 I've never seen that sort of speed from a SATA HDD.

Secret

lolololololol:

google.com.au/…

unique entry

0celo7

@JohnRennie the 170 write?

Well I'm getting that.

John Rennie

I bet you've got the disk configured for write caching

0celo7

@JohnRennie what?

John Rennie

Try disabling write caching so you're measuring the true write speed not the write speed including the Windows cache.

0celo7

1:41 PM

@JohnRennie I'm in class, can you try to remind me when you wake up please :)

@JohnRennie it's an SSHD btw

Not a straight HDD

Not sure how to tell if the SSD on it is working correctly

Maybe the inflated benchmarks are because they're taking advantage of it

John Rennie

@0celo7 entirely possible ...

0celo7

@JohnRennie I took out my wifi card so now I have an extra PCI slot

Should I get another 960 and test the speeds?

Or wait for the new ones

Or a 960 Pro

John Rennie

1:56 PM

If it turns out there is something about the mobo that is slowing things own I'd be inclined to put the money towards a new mobo ...

0celo7

@JohnRennie So...how do I tell?

I certainly don't know of another computer with an M.2

SATA sure

But not with a good mobo

I've also had problems getting my RAM speed to 3000Mhz

That might indicate mobo issues

@JohnRennie it seems my form factor only has one chipset for mobos

Maybe I should get a new case and mobo

That's a lot of money though

John Rennie

If it was me I would just enjoy using my PC and spend the money on beer, but you knew that already :-)

0celo7

@JohnRennie I am not 21

When I am 21 I will be broke

John Rennie

:-)

0celo7

Gotta buy Analysis books and computer parts for now

John Rennie

2:09 PM

Spend it on drugs and loose women then :-)

Balarka Sen

@JohnRennie Quality parental advice there.

Actually I'd be down for the drugs if it's the YAGE

Physics Meta

2:29 PM

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Q: Can you start bounty here on physics meta if your question didn't receive enough attention for example?

Can you start bounty here on physics meta if your question didn't receive enough attention for example as you can do on the other websites in the network outside meta?

discussion bounty meta

ffahim

What is the relation about 5i^ and 1/5i^ vector

Our text book has defined them to be reciprocal to each other

0celo7

Christ, what?

Reciprocal of vectors? Are you Indian?

ffahim

No, I am bangladeshi

@0celo7

I googled it though but couldn't find its existence. Maybe that is defined as a different name of vector type. If u guys know then Pls let me know about it. TIA

Anonymous

Just google "Reciprocal System of Vectors"

Anonymous

ACuriousMind

2:45 PM

Unless you're doing stuff with lattices, I don't know for what the notion of reciprocal vectors would be useful.

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind I learnt it during my solid state course in chem

ACuriousMind

Sure, Bravais lattices and so on.

Anonymous

Yup

Balarka Sen

3:00 PM

@0celo7 Ch 6.3 is too symbol pushy for me. To be honest I never really liked the look of Gauss and Codazzi equations for surfaces in R^3 either.

ffahim

Thanks guys

0celo7

@BalarkaSen Agreed, but they are absolutely fundamental for geometric analysis

Balarka Sen

Indeed? Huh

0celo7

@BalarkaSen They are used to derive the constraint equations for general relativity

for finding curvature estimates for minimal surfaces, etc.

Chapter 7 is deep

You'll like it

Anonymous

3:17 PM

Anonymous

@JohnRennie @DawoodibnKareem In this code how are they defining a variable of Node type before defining the class Node? Is it because the compiler doesn't parse the lines one-by-one ?

Anonymous

Eh...JR isn't around

Prathyush Poduval

@Blue Migrate to Stack Overflow :P

Anonymous

I'm afraid of downvotes ;-; For those guys on SO everything seems trivial

Balarka Sen

@0celo7 I'll check it out.

Prathyush Poduval

3:27 PM

As long as you have enough rep, why do you care?

Anonymous

If JR or DK don't come around then I'll ask on SO (after an hour or so)

Prathyush Poduval

@BalarkaSen How was thee exams?

@Blue I'm sure they would come around

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval I'll get blocked after 3 (something like that) questions (with downvotes)

Balarka Sen

It was okay.

Anonymous

The SO rules are pretty strict

Prathyush Poduval

3:28 PM

@Blue #DeleteDelete

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval That trick doesn't work

Anonymous

They're too smart

Prathyush Poduval

Should have thought of that :P

So when are you going to start yourproject?

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval Already started

Anonymous

Collecting papers now

Anonymous

3:30 PM

I'll visit that prof next week again

Prathyush Poduval

What's the next stage after lit review?

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval experimentation, discussing with experts in the field, investigation of alternative solutions, etc

Prathyush Poduval

When are you getting time to do all this?:P

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval It'll take time. I spend atleast 7-8 months on this

Anonymous

Maybe even more

Prathyush Poduval

3:32 PM

Ah long term then.....

Anonymous

Next year I'll ask the prof to recommend me for the NIUS workshop :P

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval Yep

Anonymous

Good research takes time

Prathyush Poduval

@Blue Nice, that would be a very nice experience

@Blue Yes it does

Anonymous

Yeah. They're very very selective. They don't take more than one student per university.

Anonymous

3:35 PM

That's why I'll not mention it to my classmates

Anonymous

:P

Anonymous

Actually, I'll keep the project stuff a secret(from my classmates) till I complete it

Prathyush Poduval

@Blue Nice strategy :P

@Blue Acoording to your description, I don't think most would care :P

They would be too busy protesting

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval Well, yeah. They're more interested in getting a job at Google/Facebook

Anonymous

@PrathyushPoduval Ah, well. Not all students are like that. :P But yeah, some are cracked.

Prathyush Poduval

3:38 PM

Speaking of which, There may be another protest here tommorow. So hoping for a holiday now :P

@Blue Every place has it's own set of crackpots and it's complement

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