The h Bar

@KyleKanos He left because he and ACM were dating and ACM cheated on him with @JohnRennie. So then Chris tried revenge by going to bed with JD, that didn't work well though so he snapped on JD and it was all over then

Kyle Kanos

Well that escalated pretty quickly

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer lol, your mind is a strange place

Bernard Meurer

4:07 PM

@ACuriousMind Deny all you want, we know that it's the truth

heather

(::insert non-mainstream physics theory here::) @BernardMeurer

0celo7

Wtf your phone randomly clicks

Kyle Kanos

MOND is pretty mainstream

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer It conflicts with the story of me being an AI, though

0celo7

Wtf Apple

heather

4:07 PM

ACM is an AI

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind There is a downside to the "Find creative solutions to problems" philosophy we programmers have

@ACuriousMind Ever seen the movie "Her"?

Jesus my whole house is shaking what is going on

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer nope

Bernard Meurer

It's like I'm living in a vibrator, I bet it's that bloody hungarian

Her (film)

Her is a 2013 American romantic science fiction drama film written, directed, and produced by Spike Jonze. It marks Jonze's solo screenwriting debut. The film follows Theodore Twombly (Joaquin Phoenix), a man who develops a relationship with Samantha (Scarlett Johansson), an intelligent computer operating system personified through a female voice. The film also stars Amy Adams, Rooney Mara, and Olivia Wilde. Jonze conceived the idea in the early 2000s after reading an article about a website that allowed for instant messaging with an artificial intelligence program. After making I'm Here (2010...

Kyle Kanos

I program a lot these days. I also write a lot of documents too

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind the guy dates an AI in it, it's a pretty cool movie

ACuriousMind

4:09 PM

@BernardMeurer You sure it's not an earthquake? :P

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind It stopped, whatever it was lol

@KyleKanos Do you know Ackermann's function?

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Yes

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Want to see my arbitrary-precision, multithreaded, iterative, implementation of it in C++? :P

Kyle Kanos

How high can it go to?

0celo7

@ACuriousMind I don't understand PhD set theory. Is $f^{-1}((f(U^c))^c)\subset U$?

John Rennie

4:11 PM

@BernardMeurer That libels so many people I think it just created a flag event horizon. Flags just fall into it and become causally disconnected.

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos I don't have enough computational power to get past (4,1) I think

heather

@0celo7, that is nuts...

how do you even solve stuff like that??

0celo7

you ask ACM and hopes he takes pity

Kyle Kanos

Isn't F(4,3) = 2^16?

heather

::humbly goes back to Naive Set Theory::

Bernard Meurer

4:13 PM

WOOHOOO

DIE COMPUTER DIE

Kyle Kanos

Nope. F(4,1) is 2^16-ish

Bernard Meurer

@JohnRennie Lol, hope you liked my story

heather

@BernardMeurer, I feel like I do that to the online Python interpreter I use every time I run a program =P

Kyle Kanos

I've been doing a lot of Project Euler lately

It's like the only "fun" website I'm allowed to visit at work

heather

Project Euler is awesome.

0celo7

4:15 PM

@BernardMeurer Have you listened to Denzel Curry?

Bernard Meurer

CPU usage 695%

That's what I'm talking about

94C on the CPU

Time to stop

0celo7

"htop"

TIL computers do homotopy theory

Kyle Kanos

I'm actually kinda terribly at Proj Euler. I usually get the brute-force solutions and optimize them and then pass it off to my co-worker who is a math PhD

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos I've heard of this project euler, are the problems cool?

Like, do they make your PC cry?

Kyle Kanos

I'm currently stuck on problem 574

@BernardMeurer They're awfully mathy (mostly probability theory and number theory).

dmckee

4:17 PM

@heather In my experience the TI-89 series of graphing calculators are differentiated from most other calculators by the their insistence on correct parenthesis in expressions. Where "correct" means "more than humans use when scrawling down math in a context then understand" with the result that users of the damn things often get numerically incorrect answer because their calculator interprets it's input differently than they meant it.

Bernard Meurer

Bah, they're just maths problems

Kyle Kanos

The problems are designed such that there is a solution that can be done in less than one minute using a "standard" computer

Bernard Meurer

@dmckee What's your calculator of choice? (Say a slide-rule and we'll fight)

0celo7

Bob uses a slide rule

dmckee

Students who are not thoroughly comfortable with numbers often fail to notice that this has happened and then submit incorrect problems.

Kyle Kanos

4:18 PM

PARI/GP is the only answer to "what is the best calculator"

dmckee

@BernardMeurer Nah. The slide rule is just for show.

Kyle Kanos

Though Sage is coming close

dmckee

I run a HP 11C.

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Can't use that on my chemistry exam

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Debatable.

0celo7

4:19 PM

you don't need a calculator for grad quantum mechanics usually

Kyle Kanos

Can't use as per their rules. You are not physically incapable of doing so

Bernard Meurer

@dmckee Jeez, you are old school :P

@KyleKanos I can run Linux on my calculator though

Sanya

@0celo7 I actually think so if you mean subseteq - but wait for ACM

Bernard Meurer

So I guess maybe I could put that on Linux and run it from inside the calculator

That would be funny

0celo7

@Sanya I think so too, but I get lost trying to verify it

dmckee

4:20 PM

@BernardMeurer Yeah, and it's slow. HP made a faster version of the 12C (a business and accounting calculator from the same era) available, but they have steadfastly refused to update the 11C, 15C or 16C.

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 I do, I gotta calculate like the E of a single photon being ejected out of my profs ass

0celo7

$\subset$ means $\subseteq$

dmckee

Everyone I know who uses them keeps tabs on the others: so we can get their calculators when they die.

Bernard Meurer

@dmckee Does it solve integrals?

@dmckee Lol, that's pretty hardcore

dmckee

@BernardMeurer Nope. Though it doesn accumulate population statistics for you.

0celo7

4:21 PM

@dmckee do you remember what calculator I told you my dad uses?

You were impressed

dmckee

@0celo7 Was that the 15C? I wanted one, but couldn't afford it.

Bernard Meurer

I smell burnt plastic

Time to stop the ackermann calculator

JESUS 103C

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Stop thinking so much then

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Bernard Meurer

STAHP

0celo7

@dmckee HP41

Bernard Meurer

4:22 PM

@KyleKanos Lol, smart

Hohmannfan

Random guy from Space Exploration SE here. There is an orbital mechanics question that has been up for a couple of months (regarding if a type of transfer orbit is always of a certain type or not). Our community is not that large, so we may not have people who are able to answer it. To finally get it answered, I have offered a 500 rep bounty. </bothering physics people>

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Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Do you have a super-computer i can run this on?

dmckee

@0celo7 My wife has one of those. Good machine, but it doesn't fit in a short pocket and almost no one actually know how to use most of the functions.

heather

@BernardMeurer, build a raspberry pi supercomputer! =D

0celo7

why would you put a calculator in a pocket?

John Rennie

4:23 PM

@BernardMeurer the laptop has a Dell warranty till March 2017, so you're fine :-)

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer I've got a 12-core blade at work that I use daily

John Rennie

I don't think number theory violates the terms of the warranty.

Bernard Meurer

@heather I'm a college student. I am poor

@KyleKanos Please? :3

0celo7

@BernardMeurer Do you want my access to the ORNL cluster?

Kyle Kanos

It likely will not get to A(4,2)

Bernard Meurer

4:25 PM

@JohnRennie Be honest, what did this computer do to you so you'd send it to me?

@KyleKanos I dream of one day getting there

John Rennie

You saw the video ...

Kyle Kanos

There's like 19 thousand digits in that answer

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 YES

Let's break the university!

0celo7

Not the university

Oak Ridge National Lab

3rd fastest computer in the world

heather

@BernardMeurer, maybe I can ask my dad, because he's got 4 Pis hooked up and they run Wolfram Mathematica in unison. So, if you can, you know, transfer it to Mathematica =)

Bernard Meurer

4:26 PM

Yeah, yeah, let's wreck it

Sanya

@0celo7 let $a \in f^{-1}((f(U^c))^c)$ then it follows that there is a $b \in f(U^c)^c$ with $b=f(a)$ which means $f^{-1}(b)=a \in U$ ?

0celo7

@BernardMeurer Whenever I log in I have to agree to the ToS

Bernard Meurer

@heather No clue on how to write what I did in C++ in mathematica :(

0celo7

which includes prison time if I misuse the server

Bernard Meurer

I also need a better multiprocessing implementation

Kyle Kanos

4:27 PM

@BernardMeurer Almost guaranteed that it's Ackermann[m,n]

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 You're already imprisoned by your insecurities, you have nothing to lose

@KyleKanos But then it's lame :/

0celo7

What the hell

heather

@BernardMeurer, I'm terrible at Mathematica, but my dad knows a bit of C++ and he's good at Mathematica, but I don't know how in the universe to persuade him to rewrite the code and run it for you =(

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer That's Mathematica for you

Bernard Meurer

They probably use recursive implementation, losers

0celo7

4:27 PM

@BernardMeurer losers

Kyle Kanos

Takes the fun out of programming by making dumb

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 Fixed

Kyle Kanos

They probably have the answers hard-coded

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Lol, indeed they probably do

0celo7

@BernardMeurer you need to listen to DC, got a light 8 from Fantano

Bernard Meurer

4:28 PM

@0celo7 Bah, the man gives 8's away to anything nowadays

only 9's are special

I can't believe fucking Xiu Xiu got a 9

@KyleKanos Are you feeding me or not?

0celo7

didn't he give to pimp a butterfly a 10?

Did you listen to that?

Bernard Meurer

I'm hungry man, I only have beer

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Negative. Feeding 4 kids is difficult enough

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 Yeah, he gave it a 10. Didn't listen to it yet

@KyleKanos :(

WILL TEACH CODING FOR FOOD

0celo7

what are you feeding them?

Kyle Kanos

4:30 PM

I can teach my kids coding. They probably should learn to do multiplication first though

@0celo7 Hamburgers

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Bah, nonsense

0celo7

learn set theory first

Kyle Kanos

The girls like them with mustard. The boy does not

0celo7

then ring theory

Kyle Kanos

@0celo7 Possibly useful for discrete mathematics

heather

4:31 PM

No, first topology, @0celo7, you've got it all wrong, and then Banach spaces =P

Bernard Meurer

Put Scratch in front of them and say "You only get food once you make a hello world"

0celo7

@heather That's the unreasonable analyst in me

It's more reasonable to learn algebra first

Bernard Meurer

Your wife may not be on board at first

@KyleKanos 3 girls one boy?

Emilio Pisanty

@KyleKanos No, there's no built-in Ackermann

0celo7

you can add, wonderful

Kyle Kanos

4:32 PM

My kids are 7, 5, 3 (x2) years old. Half of them can't spell

@EmilioPisanty Disappointing to hear :/

Bernard Meurer

@EmilioPisanty Am I still blocked by you?

@KyleKanos 7?! How is this one not hacking the FBI yet?

Emilio Pisanty

@KyleKanos It made for a fun exercise on my MM course

heather

@KyleKanos, that's why you do Scratch, there's drag and drop blocks, you don't have to spell

Emilio Pisanty

memoization on MM looks really weird at first go

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Because that's illegal and I'm trying to raise law-abiding citizens?

0celo7

4:33 PM

@EmilioPisanty If you still have Bernardo blocked, he is really sorry and would like to talk to you again

Kyle Kanos

@heather Never heard of Scratch, assumed it was an IDE

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Nonsense

heather

@KyleKanos, it is an MIT project, let me see if I can find it

Emilio Pisanty

@0celo7 I don't. If he's got interesting stuff to say I can respond.

Bernard Meurer

scratch.mit.edu

Kyle Kanos

4:34 PM

Besides, real programmers use either Vim or Emacs

Or Visual Studio

0celo7

@EmilioPisanty So you aren't ignoring him?

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos I used to use this to teach kids (~10) coding, it's a good first touch with programming

@KyleKanos I use Atom and Vim

heather

There's also StarLogo Nova slnova.org

Emilio Pisanty

@0celo7 I don't have him formally blocked, but I won't discuss this further.

Bernard Meurer

@EmilioPisanty jesus man

Kyle Kanos

4:35 PM

I wonder if JD is still blocked

heather

who is JD?

Kyle Kanos

Duffy

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Banned from chat for a year

Kyle Kanos

So I guess I'll probably not find out then

Was he chat-banned due to the CW event?

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Are you dancing?

Emilio Pisanty

4:36 PM

@KyleKanos He's alive and healthy, I think

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos No, he hassled Shog9

and got ass-blasted

0celo7

JD is alive and well, I talked with him earlier.

@KyleKanos No, CW was clearly in the wrong there.

ACuriousMind

Please do not discuss the reasons for other user's suspension. Thank you.

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer TBH, I never really ever celebrated anyone being banned or anything

Emilio Pisanty

-5

A: Why does the Pauli exclusion principle not apply to bosons?

Why does the Pauli exclusion principle not apply to bosons? Because a boson such as a photon has an E=hf wave nature, and two waves can be superposed. For a example you can grasp intuitively, think of two ocean waves. They can ride over one another and keep going, no problem. Two waves can o...

heather

4:37 PM

there's all these users I've never heard of, but seem to have magical qualities

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Meh, you're a better person than I am

0celo7

lol

Bernard Meurer

@heather JD has the magical qualities of a sea cucumber

ACuriousMind

´@KyleKanos btw, what's your profile picture?

0celo7

@EmilioPisanty :)

heather

4:38 PM

@BernardMeurer, ?

0celo7

@ACuriousMind a transformer

Kyle Kanos

MC Frontalot - I'll Form The Head [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

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Worth the few minutes

Bernard Meurer

@heather Sea cucumbers are the most boring animals ever. That's my point

0celo7

what????

they explode their insides as as defense mechanism

heather

@BernardMeurer, oh. I guess everyone talks about Chris White, and Ron Maimon, and stuff.

@0celo7, seriously? Cool!

ACuriousMind

4:39 PM

@BernardMeurer their defense mechanism is pretty interesting, don't you think?

0celo7

@ACuriousMind I just said that

Bernard Meurer

@heather Chris White is an amazing guy. Wish you'd met the man

@ACuriousMind Meh, I do the same thing

Kyle Kanos

@0celo7 Closer to Voltron than Transformers

I think I had a chance to meet him IRL, but I prefer my anonymity

heather

Bernard Meurer

@heather Porn isn't allowed here

heather

4:40 PM

sea cucumber of awesome

0celo7

looks like a rotten cucumber

moldy

Kyle Kanos

Looks like a moldy slug

heather

@BernardMeurer, what...? It's a sea cucumber!

You know, I'm not going to ask, nevermind.

Bernard Meurer

@heather Yeah but it's naked

0celo7

uhh

heather

4:41 PM

I'm just confused now. Nevermind.

0celo7

@Sanya where was that message you sent me?

I lost it

Kyle Kanos

@heather That happens often?

Emilio Pisanty

Anyways, @KyleKanos, what brings you down here? Long time no see.

0celo7

this chat is not exactly 14yo material

heather

@KyleKanos, me being confused? Yeah, it happens a decent amount.

Kyle Kanos

4:42 PM

@EmilioPisanty Uhh....boredom actually. Kids were watching TV, wife is out & I was cooking lunch

Emilio Pisanty

@KyleKanos fair enough

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Be honest, you just missed us

0celo7

@heather youtube.com/watch?v=jAFu4zVTo4Q

Bernard Meurer

You don't need to find excuses :P

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Eh. On occasion.

Bernard Meurer

4:43 PM

@heather DON'T CLICK ON IT

@KyleKanos aha Called it

Kyle Kanos

But then I remember that I've got a (fairly) pregnant wife and a few kids and an awesome job, then I forget about missing things that aren't that

heather

@BernardMeurer, okay, I accidentally did so and then I exited the tab, so.

@KyleKanos, but I'm in middle school, so I'd like to think that I have an excuse.

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos 5th kid coming your way? You're my hero man

@heather Don't listen to any of the crap @0celo7 links to you. Even his girlfriend can't handle it

@0celo7 Did you listen to brain tentacles on your way to Alabama?

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Yes. Next week-ish

heather

@BernardMeurer, I really need to stop trusting @0celo7 =P

Bernard Meurer

4:45 PM

@KyleKanos Are you naming the kid Bernard?

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Ryan has a girlfriend? Like a real one that people have met and interacted with?

@BernardMeurer Our choices are either Thomas or Elizabeth

0celo7

@BernardMeurer We listened to The Book of Mormon and talked the rest of the way

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos yep, he does. She's really nice actually, met her over Skype a while ago

@0celo7 Lame

0celo7

@KyleKanos Since January, where have you been?

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Ah, because one of them is already called Bernard? :p

Kyle Kanos

4:46 PM

@0celo7 Not here.

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 He has more children than you have kidneys, give the man a break

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Nope.

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Heartbroken

0celo7

@BernardMeurer I have a disease where I have 6....

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Honestly, those are good names though :)

0celo7

4:47 PM

@heather youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo

heather

@0celo7, not clicking...

Bernard Meurer

@heather Smart

heather

@0celo7, at least do it on a new line so I can see what video it is

0celo7

Taylor Swift - Bad Blood ft. Kendrick Lamar

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heather

okay, yeah, definitely no

0celo7

4:48 PM

???

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Hope it all goes well next week(ish)!

0celo7

What kind of girl are you

Bernard Meurer

@heather Smart

Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

►

0celo7

Who doesn't like Taylor Swift?

Bernard Meurer

@heather This

heather

4:49 PM

@0celo7, I enjoy electronic/alternative/rock myself.

0celo7

electronic, aha

Bernard Meurer

RATATAT - CREAM ON CHROME

►

Emilio Pisanty

@0celo7 plenty of people

Bernard Meurer

@heather Try that too

Emilio Pisanty

same as with any other genre

Bernard Meurer

4:50 PM

Also, EVERYONE, any idea how they make those lights do that?

heather

Ratatat, I think I've listened to that

Emilio Pisanty

@KyleKanos I don't think you ever did mention what your new job was

0celo7

he's a quantum

Kyle Kanos

@EmilioPisanty I'm a quant with a US bank

Bernard Meurer

What's a quant?

Emilio Pisanty

4:51 PM

@KyleKanos ok

0celo7

He quantizes people who can't afford the interest

Emilio Pisanty

yeah, not for me

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Is it Citibank? Can you fix my debt? Please help

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Quantitative Analyst. I write software so traders can make better decision about how to gain or lose money

@BernardMeurer I'm pretty sure a trio of guys from Citi got fired and arrested for doing crap like that

0celo7

@Sanya you there? I think one needs $f$ to be surjective for it to be true.

heather

4:52 PM

loud pipes, that's it

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Badass

heather

@BernardMeurer, try Loud Pipes by Ratatat

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Dammit, I had hopes

0celo7

Knife Party 'Boss Mode'

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@heather electronic

Bernard Meurer

@heather listening to that

heather

4:53 PM

@0celo7, you have lost my music trust

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Yeah, jail time is not something I'm interested in

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0celo7

what the hell

heather

@0celo7, Taylor Swift?!

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos Nah, I can't afford you going to jail until your kids all have a college degree

Kyle Kanos

Who is Taylor Swift

Bernard Meurer

4:54 PM

@KyleKanos She's a track runner

0celo7

what kind of music do you even like

heather

@KyleKanos, nobody worth listening to

Emilio Pisanty

@KyleKanos politician, I think

Bernard Meurer

I wish taylor swift ran track, it would be funny

0celo7

@heather wow

I take back what I said

Bernard Meurer

4:55 PM

BRAIN TENTACLES - FULL ALBUM

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heather

@0celo7, wow what?

Bernard Meurer

Heavy metal, but they replaced the guitar with a Sax

It's pretty fun

0celo7

oh no

heather

cool

0celo7

the only good thing about that mess is the cover art

Bernard Meurer

4:56 PM

store.relapse.com/item/41265/oxblood

If anyone wants to give me a christmas gift

Kyle Kanos

@BernardMeurer Sounds like a weird idea

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos It is, it's very weird

Kyle Kanos

And I listen to some weird-ass music (pretty much all of it is video game remixes because it's free)

Bernard Meurer

@KyleKanos I have what is almost unarguably the weirdest sounding CD of all times in my library

heather

@BernardMeurer, also try Making Me Nervous and Dropping Out of School, both by Brad Sucks

Bernard Meurer

4:59 PM

@heather You shouldn't be listening to a song called "Dropping Out of School" :p

heather

@BernardMeurer, it's got a good beat =P

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