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user54412
12:23 AM
@Kyle haha - fortunately for visiting speakers here, Jerry is heading toward retirement and spends much of his time at Columbia these days. Not that we don't have others who can take his place.
 
2:06 AM
It's 4 am here, and I'd rather not go to sleep now and face my demons.
 
So put a double shot of espresso into a cup of coffee (my library calls it an "eye opener")
 
@KyleKanos ...is there any other kind of coffee? I always only use it to stay awake when I shouldn't. Normal levels of coffein intake just make me unable to focus on anything
 
I drink straight drip coffee
Occasionally I'll have a cappuccino
Well this is just annoying
I got my new laptop yesterday
Only thing not working is the fact that there's dual core
Running mpiexec -np 2 ./astrobear runs 2 copies on 2 cores instead of 1 copy on 2 cores
 
You've got a thinkpad that doesn't work properly?! Someone dispensing the Karma must really hate you.
 
I wiped Windows
Even doing that took some work
Stupid UEFI
 
2:19 AM
Huh...these are the times I'm really glad not to wanna go into simulations
 
Yeah, it's a bit of a pain
I spent $800 on this thing so that it would work out better for me
 
 
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9:25 AM
Hi Valter
 
Hi Danu, what's the matter?
 
are you there?
oh, there you are
 
Yes I am
 
As I said, I've been enrolled in a math.phys. program (@ LMU Munich)
 
I was there las week
continue please
Actually I sis not know
sorry I ahave some problem with my keyboard
 
9:27 AM
Now, as a bachelor, I received a 'regular' physics education, without much mathematics (at all), just some mathematics for physicists courses (i.e. I know the Fourier transform, how to solve simple diff. eqn's and I know some basic complex analysis)
 
Now, I realize that this program is going to be different, and I'd like to prepare myself as well as possible.
 
I understand
 
Dr. Helling, the program coordinator, already advised me to learn the first part of Reed & Simon's book on functional analysis
 
first volume you mean?
 
9:29 AM
basically to get me to the spectral theorem for bounded operators (I think that's what it's called?) - so I won't be looking like a fool in my mathematical QM course
A part of it: Ch. 1,2,3,6,7 were recommended I believe
 
I see
please continue
 
but given what I find in Reed & Simon, I think there might be some other things I should learn about too! It's not that it's too hard (although I hate the amount of 'exercises left to the reader' in math texts), but I am not aware of any mathematics on that level, simply because I have not been exposed to it.
So I have been wondering what more there is that I really should have seen
something like... an introduction to group theory perhaps? Or a strong understanding of basic complex analysis (like I said, I know most things 'most people' need in physics, but I'm sure there's a lot that I haven't covered)?
So I was wondering whether you might have any suggestions
 
In my opinion RS is a very good reference for physicists in your situation. I think you should use it and perhaps you could also have a look of other books. Regarding the analytical side RS is the best starting point. I see that you are also interested is something more geometrical.
Are you also interested in differential geometry applied to relativity for instance?
 
Indeed, geometry is what really fascinates me (I think...), especially after learning some basic GR
I've tried to get started in Spivak's volume 1 but my progress was too slow
 
OK, I suggest you Wald's textbook on GR. It includes several mathematical topics in appendices
If you need something more mathematically minded I suggest you O'Neill book on semiRiemannian geometry
The difficult point is suggesting something about (Lie) group theory and representation theory
there a re lots of books, but most are too mathematically minded
 
9:39 AM
@ValterMoretti Do you think the O'Neill book will be doable without any real background knowledge? (I've read most of Carroll's GR book, but didn't dig into the math all that much)
 
Yes I do
just elementary real analysis and linear lagebra
sorry, ALGEBRA
 
As long as it's not significantly more difficult than R&S it should be OK - that book is right on the level that is very challenging but still workable for me
 
There is another interesting book I think is worth suggesting: Differential Forms in Mathematical Physics by Westenholz
it includes several useful topics for physicists treated with a fair mathematical rigour but keeping always applications as final goal
 
OK :) I've really been looking forward to understanding how exactly differential forms 'work' since I got a little taste of it in Carroll
...which is also why I started to try and read Spivak
Any ideas about group theory books?
 
If you give me you email address I will send you the copy of my (possibly) third edition of my book on mathematics of QM. It includes a quick introduction to Lie group representation theory, useful for physicists
 
9:45 AM
Oh, that's very nice of you!
danuthung@gmail.com is my address
 
However, concerning groups I suggest Naimark -Stern book on representation theory and Barout Raczka book on the same subject
 
Okay, I will look those up too
 
I just sent you my book.
 
A fellow physicist recommended Georgi's 'Lie algebras in Particle Physics' to me, do you know it & have an opinion?
I received your message - Thanks!! :)
 
just a moment please I am busy
Actually I do not know Georgi's book, sorry
 
10:00 AM
Okay :) I will have a look at all the books you recommended. Do you have any further suggestions for a prospective mathematical physicist?
 
at LMU there is a former student of mine, Nelvis Fornasini, (and some other former students of mine I do not remember their names), please bring my greetings to him (them) if you have the occasion to meet him (them). I was in Munich last week at the institute for mathematical philosophy (!) I never visited your department.
Regarding suggestions: always have a look at physics that is the guide. Mathematics alone is dangerous
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for a mathematical physicists I mean...
 
I will take care not to be led astray ;)
 
You are not so far from my dept, just 3 hours by car. My brother is visiting professor at the institute of mathematical philosophy, next time I visit him we could meet.
 
Oh, that sounds good :) Keep me up to date - you've got my e-mail!
 
I must go for lunch now they are calling me. Bye, Valter keep in touch
 
10:07 AM
Bye!
 
 
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12:18 PM
Wow I've noticed that on mathematics SE there's a new question posted on average every 3-4 minutes. So active!!
 
 
1 hour later…
1:33 PM
Physics.SE is quite small
also, look at the abstract of this paper: arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1110/1110.2832.pdf
 
It is
 
Hello
 
hi
Does anyone here play chess?
 
Does any of you knows what are the strong requisites for reading (and mostly understnting) Gravitation ?
 
Misner, Thorne & Wheeler?
 
1:37 PM
y
 
@Danu I do, but I'm not terribly good at it.
 
Are you familiar with the covariant formulation of electromagnetism?
@KyleKanos neither am I, but I play a lot
 
I just play 2 of my brothers
One is awful, the other is about as good as me
 
you wanna play online sometime?
 
you mean Maxwell ?
 
1:38 PM
chess.com is easy to make a free account on etc
@Saffron Maxwell's equations, cast in tensor form
 
I make like 2 moves a day
 
Yeah to an extent
 
@KyleKanos They allow games as slow as 1 move per two weeks - although we could just play a short game too (I play games as short as 1min per player sometimes)
Okay, that's good. So you know about tensors
Have you properly understood special relativity theory too?
 
Well not as much as I would like
 
@Danu yes Danu I do play chess
 
1:40 PM
Which is one of the reasons I want to read that book
 
@Danu how so? :) (also active on chess SE by the way)
 
But maybe I'm skipping a step
 
I'm not sure if MTW is the easiest
as a 'first book' on GR
I read Carroll's book
which I found very good
@Phonon I'm looking for people to play with online
 
@Danu awesome, which sites you use mostly? chess dot com, chesscube dot com, icc ..?
 
@Danu What's the title of that book ?
 
1:44 PM
@Saffron Spacetime & Geometry
@Phonon just chess.com
I did also start using ICC btw
but just gota new laptop and haven't gotten round to installing the stuff you need for it
 
@Danu cool, let me know whenever you got time, we'll play 1-2 games
 
what about right know?
my name on chess.com is DanuThung
 
Jim
@Saffron Danu is right, Carroll's book is by far one of the better ones for beginner GR
 
@Danu I ll send you a friend inv
 
Haha, this just made me google my own name
The only thing that comes up that I'm happy about is this feynmanlectures.info/flp_errata.html
 
1:55 PM
@Danu haha sent :D
 
I found an error (tiny math mistake) in the Feynman lectures last year :D Apparently it was there since the first edition, too!
 
Nice
 
 
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3:28 PM
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Q: Effect of Reynolds number on wake region

Karneek PatelFor a flow over a smooth sphere, does the wake region increases with increase in Reynolds number? And if so, then why?

@KyleKanos Smells like a homework problem no?
 
It does appear that way, which is why I asked about the definition of Re
Once you know what Re, the answer should pop out pretty quick
 
Not really -- remember when it's laminar, it will grow with increasing Re until the transition to turbulence occurs, then it will suddenly shrink quite a bit
And then it will continue to grow again
There's the adverse pressure gradient that gets relieved when it transitions to turbulence. The golf-ball effect
 
Well that's silly
That it doesn't show up, I mean
 
And there's the shedding which will change from a VK vortex street to discrete, alternating eddies, to a symmetric recirculation zone
Until it becomes turbulent
There's actually a whole bunch of really fun things that go on
But my guess is this is a HW question for an "intro to viscous flows" class
 
Of course there's a lot of things that go on, but it can be simplified (usually)
Your comment there is nice too
In the Q, I mean
 
3:34 PM
I was up in Rock Hill last week
Drove past Clemson a bunch
 
A race?
 
Yeah, national championships at the velodrome there
 
Got it. Should've stopped by
 
I was supposed to race but haven't been training enough. So I was helping a friend for her events
 
 
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user54412
6:34 PM
@Saffron Oh dear. Really, there's no good reason to read MTW straight through. Anyone who does GR should have it around as an authoritative reference, but it is not designed to teach the topic.
 
user54412
As others have said, Sean Carroll's Spacetime and Geometry is an excellent book. And if you read it cover to cover, you'll understand everything in MTW. (MTW just has lots more esoteric examples; it is broad but not particularly deep.)
 
user54412
If you want a simpler place to start, try Bernard Schutz's A First Course in General Relativity - not particularly rigorous, but gives a nice taste of things. It was the first GR book I read, and I think I turned out alright (my research is in GR).
 
7:05 PM
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Q: Issue when people who close a question are an order of magnitude less than those who accepted and up-voted question and answers

Nikos M.Based on the case of a question Explanation for this type of (magic-trick) suspension? (on hold) (of course not the only one). Five people (a moderator among them) voted to close the question, which had an (accepted) answer and plus was highly up-voted (let me note in bold by members of this sit...

 
 
3 hours later…
9:43 PM
Hey all! I am an undergrad taking Solid State Physics at the level of Kittel this semester. I am hoping to review necessary materials before the course starts. What topics from stat mech, QM, etc. would you say are most important to be fluent in for solid state?
 
10:02 PM
eugh Kittel, hated that book
as to your question... I remember needing to brush up on Fourier techniques, otherwise I think it was pretty straightforward
but it's been ages, and I was right in the middle of my degree so most physics topics were kind of at my fingertips
 
@Kyle thanks for the reply. what's bad about kittel's book in your opinion. i've heard mostly good things about it.
 

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