Axtell

"Error Dump for instance ifc2eecefe36cdb6fa0df126a2c94d295:

 1. Error
    Key authentication failed. Either expired on client/server or hijacked token.

 2. Error
    Key authentication failed. Either expired on client/server or hijacked token."

Downgoat

yeah that's a Json web token thing

Conor O'Brien

Downgoat

name suggestion: Axtell

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Pavel

What's it mean?

Downgoat

named after a place in antarctica

Pavel

6:10 PM

nice

Downgoat

axtell.io is also available

Conor O'Brien

feature request: login with github

Anonymous

6:43 PM

@ConorO'Brien Shouldn't be too much more work, since it's OAuth

Anonymous

Sign-in should be unborked

Anonymous

@Downgoat We have a winrar

Anonymous

Time to go change all of the names everywhere

Anonymous

room topic changed to Axtell: An experiment in a custom site: github.com/Axtell-io gist.github.com/Mego/3c00ee84c6826e56590ad0d340a82d84 [code-goat] [programming-penguin]

Anonymous

This project is now called Axtell

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Pavel

6:50 PM

> winrar

Anonymous

@Downgoat Please update the language submission form

Pavel

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Axtell can refer to:

Places in the United States
Axtell, Kansas, a city in Marshall County, Kansas
Axtell, Missouri, a community in Macon County, Missouri
Axtell, Nebraska, a village in Kearney County, Nebraska
Axtell, Texas, an unincorporated community in eastern McLennan County, Texas
Axtell, Utah, an unincorporated town in Sanpete County, Utah, between Gunnison and Salina

:P

I do like the name though

Conor O'Brien

btw the ui allows both downvoting and upvoting simultaneously

Pavel

That's been a known bug since the voting ui has been implemented

Conor O'Brien

oh ok

Anonymous

6:55 PM

@ConorO'Brien Known bug. I told Downgoat to fix it a few centuries ago

Pavel

On the backend side it does cancel your previous vote though

Conor O'Brien

yea

Pavel

If you refresh it'll only display your latest one

fergusq

I heard about this yesterday, so I don't know much. I was said that this attempts to be somehow better than ppcg. What should be the main differences?

Pavel

There'a list somewhere if I can find it

betseg

7:00 PM

@Mego i joined a few rooms 15 min ago, one of which was this, then i thought "wait i accidentally clicked that one instead of ppcgv2"

Conor O'Brien

also is the ppcgv2 discord ever used? it seems to be blank

Anonymous

@fergusq Mandatory sandbox usage for new challenges (established challenge authors will have the ability to skip the sandbox), splitting up reputation into different categories (participation, challenges, answers, etc.), moderation tool access not being tied to reputation, better TIO integration, leaderboards, etc.

Anonymous

@ConorO'Brien Not yet, because that will be our chat system for the site once it's released. This is just a dev room.

Conor O'Brien

ohhh

fergusq

Is reputation just cosmetic if you can't get moderation privileges with it?

Mandatory sandboxing sounds very good, should decrease the number of low-quality challenges a lot. (And prevent those close-reopen wars.)

Pavel

7:07 PM

It's not that reputation isn't tied to privelages. It's that there are different kinds of reputation that grant different priveleges.

e.g. enough rep from challenges would let you skip the sandbox, but no matter how good you are at answering challenges you won't unlock that power from answer rep alone.

Anonymous

@fergusq No, the plan is to have other rewards - stuff like site analytics and badges, that are nice but don't affect moderation ability

Conor O'Brien

maybe there could be a "reputation threshold" where, after attaining a certain amount of rep, they could apply for moderation tools?

Pavel

@Mego Ok, how will you do moderation. The almost entirely democratic style of moderation that SE has might not be perfect, but it's better than just you and goat doing all the moderating.

Anonymous

@Pavel I'm currently considering a system with different tiers of moderators, that can be elected/appointed. The highest tier would be like SE's mods, and lower tiers would be like meeting certain rep thresholds for moderation privs

fergusq

Are you going to set up a democratic system for creating rules (like meta)? Hopefully it will be better than SE meta, which is confusing.

Conor O'Brien

7:14 PM

(it could be a giant game of nomic :o)

betseg

is it only me or does the the main page scroll too slowly

Pavel

@ConorO'Brien nomic?

Conor O'Brien

Nomic

Nomic is a game created in 1982 by philosopher Peter Suber in which the rules of the game include mechanisms for the players to change those rules, usually beginning through a system of democratic voting. Nomic is a game in which changing the rules is a move. In that respect it differs from almost every other game. The primary activity of Nomic is proposing changes in the rules, debating the wisdom of changing them in that way, voting on the changes, deciding what can and cannot be done afterwards, and doing it. Even this core of the game, of course, can be changed. The initial ruleset was designed...

rule-rewriting game

Downgoat

ok wow this is going to be a lot of changes

Anonymous

@fergusq I've had a few ideas about that. I like the idea of having monthly voting on proposals that have sufficient support

Anonymous

7:19 PM

So yeah, like Nomic :P

Conor O'Brien

eyo

Anonymous

@Downgoat github.com/Axtell-io/Axtell/pull/118 I think I got everything

Downgoat

also on placed like GitHub, Google, and SE we have to change the name

Cows quack

7:40 PM

could you edit the website into the room description?

Anonymous

8:05 PM

@Cowsquack Not until we have a stable beta

Downgoat

are you guys pronouncing it "axe-tell" or "axe-tull"

Anonymous

axe-tell

Anonymous

Updated SE, working on Google

Pavel

^^

Anonymous

Updated the name on Google

Downgoat

8:20 PM

we can try to ask Github to nuke github.com/axtell since they have no activity

betseg

is github case sensitive

Downgoat

no

Anonymous

@Downgoat You should now have write access on the main website repo. Use it responsibly

Anonymous

Also none of the URLs for anything have been updated yet - we need the new domain to actually point to the site first, to make LetsEncrypt work, which everything else needs to work (since we redirect everything to HTTPS)

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