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5:10 PM

> Some commentators think weak AI could be dangerous. In 2013 George Dvorsky stated via io9: "Narrow AI could knock out our electric grid, damage nuclear power plants, cause a global-scale economic collapse, misdirect autonomous vehicles and robots..."

5:22 PM

I can't figure out how example question votes work on proposals

is there some mod who reverts votes en masse from time to time?

I had all my example questions downvoted -1~-3 and now they're all 0

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Gaming Challenges

Proposed Q&A site for people who want to propose gaming challenges for other users that require challenge and skill to complete. No hacks allowed. Must be legit. Provide evidence.

Currently in definition.

All of your questions are +1/-1 except the one at +0/-4

so what happened to it?

What happened to what?

For 4 of your questions someone downvoted. Later, someone else upvoted. So now it's back at 0

For the last one, it's been downvoted 4 times.

5:39 PM

oh now I see the -4 question

it looked like it had 0 votes in total

I guess it's that bug where questions lose votes for some reason

I just wasted 18 minutes making a discussion about validity of that proposal

Yeah that sometimes happens. It's kinda weird but it only seems to happen regularly for negatively voted posts.

somebody could call that "exercising" but it doesn't feel like it

hmm maybe it's actually a feature that is supposed to give downvoted answers a second chance

a new user might look at it and form their opinion without being biased by its low score

Doubt it's intended since it's not consistent

maybe it's exactly how it's supposed to be

it looks like it's a bug this way, but actually it's not

A51 is ridiculously buggy. Even the things that work correctly are just by coincidence that all relevant bugs cancelled out.

There's been no significant changes to it for years, simply because no one understands the code anymore.

5:51 PM

when programmers stop understanding code, I think it's time to call up the creators and ask for code comments in exchange for pay

When they created it, they basically just took the existing Q&A site code and repurposed it.

it sure looks like it

The voting is supposed to be identical to the main Q&A sites except for the 5 upvote per proposal limit.

maybe somebody should propose a new A51 site

They were supposed to give us one

years ago

5:54 PM

well, maybe things have been changing too much over the years and the way it was back then doesn't work now anymore

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Q: Next Generation of Area 51

I've seen a few SE staff mention that a 'next gen' Area 51 is in the works, and wondering: what the rough road map is for it, how its release will effect proposals that are not in private-beta on its release, and what the currently rough expected ETA is for its deployment is.

area51-meta support

Pretty sure it's never going to happen.

> it's not going to be years.

Yeah it was years

I think maybe it's being developed by Valve

SE is more busy now than they were back then also

And I don't think anyone is currently putting any serious time into this

5:56 PM

eh, it works somehow as it is now

> <3 Because we care

Localization is a bigger priority, but it's also something that will never be really finished. So A51 v2 is always going to be behind that and never going to happen.

Firefox is localized in hell knows how many languages and there are 2 currently in-development localizations at the bottom of that list

Those are done by the community though right?

hmm

well, I suppose the community could develop A52 given the right API and tools

after all SO is where most users come from

Yeah but that's not going to happen unless someone decides to devote time to it and makes something better than the existing version.

And since the code for the Q&A sites and A51 are both closed source, you'd have to start more-or-less from scratch.

Anyway, regarding the amount of bugs on A51:

@ShadowWizard It's ... How do I put this. Area 51 is a very old fork of the original SE codebase. There be dragons in there (probably literally). I don't know exactly where the challenges for fixing this would be, but in any event, we're not putting any significant time into A51 dev at this point. — Anna Lear ♦ May 8 at 19:44

6:02 PM

they're probably not willing to risk leaking that code by temporarily employing a dev team for that

nope

If it was a priority for them, they'd either spend time on it themselves or hire someone to do it.

it's sad that you can only wait for good things to be done by the people who aren't letting anyone else help them, even though they can

Volunteer work is fine if it's like the elections page which only requires the API, but they're not going to do anything serious with it.

pretty nice looking site

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Q: Ragyo Kiryuin's scars in Kill la Kill

Ragyo Kiryuin in Kill la Kill anime has a number of scars along her back, that are shown in such a way it would make me think they are important. By the end of the anime, the scars are not shown to be important to the story. Does the anime miss something the manga has in regards to those scars? I...

6:12 PM

@Sakamoto Isn't Kill la Kill anime original?

Not that it answers the question of whether there's more info in the manga, but the anime is presumably the canonical source here.

6:24 PM

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Q: Are there any sources for high resolution (digital) manga?

I've just got my first tablet and I'd love to explore manga with it. I've looked at a couple of Kindle samples from Amazon and also randomly sampled some fansub, and everything seems quite low res. The fansub I saw was ~0.75 megapixel. The Kindle version seems slightly sharper (not sure how to be...

whoa what the hell is that

@Sakamoto What is this question asking?

user image

what is this boldness

@user1306322 they uglified it

6:41 PM

Refreshed the page. It's still ugly.

7:13 PM

it shouldn't be in capitals

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Q: Redesigned community bulletin

We just rolled out a redesign of the community bulletin. The goals were: To make blog posts, events and featured posts stand out more To distinguish between featured posts from MSE vs. the site's meta, and SE blog posts vs. site blog posts While also balancing not overwhelming the page too mu...

discussion community-bulletin announcements

Throw your angst at this ^

Planet Express Delivery

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Q: Help finding my anime from my childhood

I've been trying for many years to find a anime from my childhood. All I remember was the main character had his arm torn off by a demon. His arm was replaced with a mechanical arm and he slayed the demon with a magical sword. His mother was some sort of angel and his only memory of her was her ...

story-identification anime

@PlanetExpressDelivery what could that be

7:31 PM

@ton.yeung Meta Moé

why do people write it with that é?

coz articulation matters

otherwise it's that guy from Simpsons

Yeah but English does this implicitly

it's fancy too

Yeah but it doesn't conform to any standard romanization system.

7:35 PM

I didn't know they existed

you might as well replace every "e" with "é" in the Hepburn system

Hepburn romanization

The is named after James Curtis Hepburn, who used it to transcribe the sounds of the Japanese language into the Latin alphabet in the third edition of his Japanese–English dictionary, published in 1887. The system was originally proposed by the in 1885. The revised edition by Romaji-Hirome-kai in 1908 is called and this system has been used as the Hepburn system in Japan traditionally. The original and revised variants of Hepburn remain the most widely used methods of transcription of Japanese. As Hepburn is based on English and Italian phonology, an English speaker unfamiliar with Japa...

I think articulation would change if it's not on the end of the word

I don't know what these are called

Anyway I don't see a need for it. Even in proper English there are tons of words with the same spelling but different pronunciation. If you consistently italicize roumaji loanwords it's no problem. If you type it unitalicized it's still relatively clear given context.

@ton.yeung Not that much

It's probably more annoying for you to type than it is for me

I can barely even see it at my current settings

Really I just enjoy complaining about things

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@LoganM suspicions confirmed

7:54 PM

@LoganM No way, I had no idea. Is water also wet?

@Eric not when it's colder than 0°C

I'm sure there's a way to disprove that water is wet under unusual circumstances, but neh

@Eric Seems that it is under normal circumstances: huffingtonpost.com/david-finkle/…

Sorry that wasn't the study I thought it was

Hold on I think there is one

Give up. I remember reading a paper or article or something which measured the wetness of water, but I can't find it now.

@Eric are you able to cast delete votes here? (don't actually try, just tell me if there's a "delete" link)

8:21 PM

@LoganM Nope. Just share and flag. (Even edit is greyed out.)

Edit requires 2k normally on meta so that's not surprising.

What is surprising to me is that I do see delete links

user image

@LoganM Your rep count is?

Normally, that should require 10k, and 20k for answers

@Eric 2.4k

@LoganM It's different for A51, isn't it?

I think they use beta counts.

@Eric If it was beta you'd be able to edit

8:26 PM

@LoganM That's not due to rep. "Suggested edits are not allowed on non-tag-wiki posts on meta sites."

Oh, nvm, suggested edits.

yea only suggestions

Also I'd be able to close vote, which AFAICT I can't do

Oddly, the FAQ doesn't talk about discuss.area51 much.

And I should be able to see deleted posts, which I'm sure I can't

Anyway I asked about it:

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Q: What are the rep levels supposed to be here?

Previously, I thought that Area 51 Discussion Zone used the graduated site rep levels. However, I saw this MSE post, which linked to this answer. Curiously, it appeared with "delete (2)" under it, and upon clicking this, it allowed me to cast a delete vote the same as if I had the delete answers ...

area51-meta support

Only because I'm now relatively sure that I can't abuse it

what's with the avatars on A51

You can only use gravatar on A51 AFAICT

8:30 PM

@user1306322 ?

Oh, yeah.

I haven't tried uploading something on discuss though

It gives you the option to, but I'm not sure how the main site would handle it.

9:06 PM

AFAICT all the Q&A sites are down right now

nnnice

:|

Wow, I haven't done any work in an hour.

They've been down for at least 10 minutes.

I hope they realized their mistake with the ugly bold "community bulletin" font and are reverting it back

I haven't had any fun in an hour!

yeah probably

9:08 PM

MSE is alive

let's panic there

oh wait, ro

@user1306322 Me either.

AU is read-only but that's the only one I see

then what have you been doing a whole hour?

9:09 PM

(other than MSE)

@LoganM AU is down for me

Worked for me a minute ago, but now I get a "We are offline" page

@user1306322 Being lazy. I don't want to ask people for bug reports.

I don't think you should ever ask people for bug reports

if there are bugs, and if people are interested in them being fixed, they will report them on their own

Oh cool chat is back online

it was offline for a while

9:18 PM

@user1306322 They gave me a number to ask about.

I didn't notice

But I don't wanna.

just send it to them via chat, email or something

maybe print them remotely on their printers

Weird that the bot hasn't posted the new stuff on twitter

I thought a person operated that account

9:20 PM

Which one?

I read somewhere that once they're free to update that status, they do, but that usually takes some time

stackstatus I think

There's already posts there: twitter.com/StackStatus

As of 25m ago

A routing issue just appeared affecting all our network connectivity, we are working on it now.

Tweeted by StackStatus on June 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM

We are bringing the major sites up in Oregon now.

Tweeted by StackStatus on June 23, 2014 at 8:57 PM

We lost multiple internet providers simultaneously, we are working on getting Oregon stable as quickly as we can.

Tweeted by StackStatus on June 23, 2014 at 9:27 PM

@Beta-kun good job

I don't feel bad about doing work anymore. There's people watching World Cup soccer outside my office.

It's my excuse.

Since Stack Overflow is down, I have to ask my coding question here:

my code wont work help plz

int wtf(arg) {{
  borked();
  borked();
  "what am i even doing".split() // doesn’t work it keeps saying add semicolon i dont understand
} // unexpected end of fail, what is that

it worked fine yesterday and i spent like 8 days already plz help

9:37 PM

@Eric Closed as duplicate

@Yuuki omg why i need help with code what is duplicate

@ton.yeung Not if this is Java. :P

It would have happened at the arg.

Double open brace is accepted in Java IIRC.

(As long as you close 2, as well.)

Errrrr, I mean...

what is exception what is brace plz help

We have reverted DNS to New York and are coming back online now, TTL is 5 minutes

Tweeted by StackStatus on June 23, 2014 at 9:35 PM

We are still having issues with one uplink provider in New York and are working on restoring redundancy as quickly as we can.

Tweeted by StackStatus on June 23, 2014 at 9:43 PM

10:26 PM

Interestingly, it seems like whatever lets me cast delete votes on Area 51 discussion zone is basically giving me the full "Trusted User" privilege, but not the "Moderator Tools" one. So I can freely edit tag wikis but not edit tags inline.

10:51 PM

google security number sending service has some bizzarely long number

@LoganM You should exploit this.

@Eric not much worth exploiting. A51 meta has like 100 tags and none of them are worth writing a wiki for.

:\

Boring

do fun stuff instead

I need to bring anime to work

Waiting for test automation to run is the most boring thing ever

11:02 PM

I wouldn't recommend bringing the best fun to work

maybe find something else

like read manga that hasn't been animated yet

I could bring my manga to work, sure

Though I forgot some of my good stuff at home, sadly

(At home home, back in Canada land.)

can you maybe acquire it electronically?

Probably not

I read raws

aren't they on the net?

The only good raw site I've found skips a LOT of chapters

Like you'll find a series that has chapter 1, 2, 8, 30, and 37.

It's... really odd.

11:04 PM

maybe someone else here knows another site where you can find them

Perhaps. cc: @Krazer @LoganM

Also @senshin maybe

11:37 PM

@Eric do you know why Area 51 is reporting 1.8 q/d for beer? The correct value is 0.4.

Actually several sites seem to have the wrong number. Italian Language is one of them

Also ebooks

@LoganM here

11:56 PM

@Krazer Gives me Nick Craver

Anyway I figured out what the problem is.

FWIW ours is wrong, too.

They're no longer calculating a 2-week running average but an all-time running average.

It should be 5, it says 5.3.

.. Wait what.

That's so stupid.

Tooltip isn't fixed

Still says 2 weeks

Being able to see the trends is rather useful.

11:57 PM

I blame Nick Craver

I blame badp.

Yeah that too

5.3 over all time isn't bad for us. I'm disappointed we won't get to see the same kind of fluctuations as before, though.

Anyway it's entirely possible that it's an unintended change related to your bug report. You might want to ping the answer there to see if that change was intended.

And if it is, the mouseover text needs to be changed

We will have to rely on @Krazer and our other mod方 to assist us.

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