Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Logan M

12:02 AM

SE sends me some of the funniest email.

> Having trouble accessing Beer?

Anyway, Software Recommendations private beta started a few hours ago. They're already up to 58 questions. If anyone needs an invite I just need any email address to send it to (not necessarily your SE email).

Memor-X

@LoganM logged in like i always do using my google account and in my profile it has all my previous accounts and i got a association bonus however my avatar and profile information didn't carry over but it did with Relationships

Logan M

@Memor-X It usually should carry over AFAIK..

BTW how did you get in. Did you commit to it?

Memor-X

@LoganM hai

Logan M

12:20 AM

I see you now: softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/users/148/user148

Anyway it's strange that it didn't copy the stuff from your oldest profile or network profile, but you should be able to edit that stuff.

In any case, so far only one closed question.

Not much interesting to me.

I wonder if video games count as software.

Memor-X

@LoganM good question, games technically count as software and Arcade would concider game recommendation lists as off topic

Logan M

@Memor-X That's the idea

Memor-X

@LoganM is there a meta post about it yet?

Logan M

@Memor-X not AFAIK

You should feel free to ask. I probably won't because I'd rather not have any sizable participation on the site.

But keep in mind the ground rules for the site:

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Q: Laying some ground rules for Software Recommendations

Proposal: Software Recommendations We're going to let this site go ahead, and see what you all can do with it. While we discussed the topic, we had to take some time to identify our chief concerns with recommendation & shopping type questions. The number one problem that we agreed upon was prett...

technology

Memor-X

12:37 AM

@LoganM got it to work now, just re saved my anime profile using the second save button, strange how that worked and not "Copy Area 51 profile to all Stack Exchange accounts" from area51, maybe a glitch caused by the influx of SE users at the start

hwlau

12:47 AM

@LoganM Is next sentence "Ask your questions at beer.stackexchange"

Logan M

@hwlau That was the subject of the email

hwlau

oops

Logan M

The text starts out as:

> Are you having trouble accessing the Beer private beta you committed to? We haven't seen you around! If you can't get in, don't hesitate to contact us at [email protected] or visit our support and feedback site at meta.stackoverflow.com. We're here to help!

hwlau

They always have such email prompting people ask questions.

it is different from most spam/ads

Logan M

I'm fine with the email, I just thought the subject line was funny.

Alex M.

1:16 AM

while I said I watched tamako market because I found it was better than sakurasou I have to say it's actually not that bad overall

5 eps in and it's sort of really enjoyable

myanimelist.net/anime/13759/Sakurasou_no_Pet_na_Kanojo

the one with the characters I don't like

I abandoned it at the stupid PLEASE LET ME STAY HERE SOME MORE confession

that felt pathetic

and I had no idea there was a LN

we're even

I am sure it does, but it has 22 eps or something, and by the looks of it... I don't think it's worth getting myself to watch it anymore

I mean the only character who actually seems to know what the hell they're doing is that playboy guy

but that's like seeing Rocco Siffredi talking about stuff

@ton.yeung the main char felt worse though

he's like a freaking pussy who can't do shit

also he wants to become a game developer

I was like wut, cool bro

@ton.yeung is it a vn?

I remember someone mentioning it somewhere

Memor-X

@AlexM. Anime and Light Novel

related to Sword Art Online

!!wiki Accel World

HoiHoi-San

Accel World

is a Japanese light novel series written by Reki Kawahara and illustrated by HiMA. The series began publication in ASCII Media Works' Dengeki Bunko imprint from February 2009 and is licensed in North America by Yen Press. Two manga series began serialization in Dengeki Bunko Magazine from May 2010, with another series beginning serialization in Dengeki Daioh in January 2013. An anime adaptation by Sunrise aired in Japan between April and September 2012. An English-language version began streaming on Viz Media's Neon Alley service from April 2013. Two video games were released for...

Alex M.

what bot is that, first time I see it

Memor-X

@ton.yeung thought the head gear used in Sword Art Online was the predecessor to the gear used in Accel World and the Research Group was using tech which sat in the middle

Alex M.

is hoihoi-san usable by every user?

Memor-X

1:28 AM

@AlexM. yes but not all commands can be sued by every user, like undo

!!lolis

HoiHoi-San

Lolis are the best!

3

Memor-X

!!undo

HoiHoi-San

@Memor-X I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Memor-X

Memor-X

2 different messages?

Alex M.

!!/weather (50.95751, 131.81250)

HoiHoi-San

1:29 AM

@AlexM. Novyy Urgal: -36.3C (236.85K), sky is clear

Alex M.

whoa

!!/norris

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. Chuck Norris used to play baseball. When Babe Ruth was hailed as the better player, Chuck Norris killed him with a baseball bat to the throat. Lou Gehrig got off easy.

Memor-X

@ton.yeung at least not directly yet, i haven't read the light novels but i wouldn't be surprised if one of the Originators was a character from Sword Art Online or the creator of Brain Blast and the Accelerated World

there's also an OVA but i don't think that's cannon

Alex M.

d'awww

well I guess this would win against two sexual deviants, a pussy and a girl with undefined behavior any day

Memor-X

@ton.yeung only the entire second arc with Dusk Taker, like i said, it's good to see how Lime Bell was using Dusk Taker from the begining

Alex M.

1:34 AM

undefined behavior

Memor-X

@ton.yeung that's with the second arc isn't it, where same ass kidnaps and imprisons Asuna and plans to marry her

Alex M.

haha sorry, I'm just bashing that anime at this point

doesn't make sense anymore anyway

not that much into reading myself :(

anyway, I doubt the anime could have gotten things that wrong

!!/user

HoiHoi-San

Ben Ark

11 1

c# delphi dll

Alex M.

I'm totally Ben Ark

HoiHoi-San

Ben Ark

11 1

c# delphi dll

Memor-X

1:37 AM

@ton.yeung i'd only get the second collection just for completion and if a new series continued on from it having Sky Raker, Heavy use of the Imagination System and Silver Crow learning to control the Armour of Catastrophe

Alex M.

WAT

HoiHoi-San

Darnell, Batangas City, Philippines

649 3 8

c# sql-server sql workflow-foundation-4 sql-server-2005 database .net

Alex M.

WAT WAT

I discovered a bug

yay

I'm not hoihoi-san's master

!!/choose "" ""

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Alex M.

now he's lecturing me

this software is totally broken

learn more?

I've already spent like 14 years in school

and you want me to LEARN MORE?

@ton.yeung nah, too lazy

and besides

I wouldn't know where to look anyway

I'm not familiar with his codebase

!!/info

HoiHoi-San

1:40 AM

@AlexM. I awoke on Tue, 04 Feb 2014 01:22:01 GMT (that's about 1 day ago), got invoked 37 times, learned 2 commands

@AlexM. No result found

Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san

HoiHoi-san, full title , is a manga by Kunihiko Tanaka that spawned a PlayStation 2 game and a ten minute OVA (sold with first printing of manga tankōbon). In the year 20XX, insects have become immune to all pesticides. To combat the rising plague of cockroaches and other household pests, the tiny, doll-like extermination androids known as "Hoihoi-san" were created. They can hunt down insects and kill them with such miniaturized weapons as minuscule machine guns and tiny combat knives. They can also (and at the same time) be treated as dolls, by dressing them up in costumes and...

Alex M.

!!/eval 4+6

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. 10

Alex M.

what kind of stuff would you be able to do with eval

!!/eval document.getElementById('input').value = 'what';

does this even make sense

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. "ReferenceError: document is not defined"

Alex M.

!!/eval alert("");

HoiHoi-San

1:45 AM

@AlexM. "ReferenceError: alert is not defined"

Alex M.

obviously

!!/eval var x = 5;

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. "undefined"

@ton.yeung "undefined"

Alex M.

!!/eval "var x = 5"

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. "var x = 5"

Alex M.

I passed a string then

HoiHoi-San

1:48 AM

@ton.yeung 6

Alex M.

!!/eval x++;

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. "ReferenceError: x is not defined"

Alex M.

so it doesn't keep track of old stuff

!!/eval var x = 5; x++; x++;

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. 6

Alex M.

huh

hoihoi-san no baka

!!/eval eval('alert("")')

HoiHoi-San

1:50 AM

@AlexM. "ReferenceError: alert is not defined"

Alex M.

!!/eval eval('5+5')

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. 10

Alex M.

!!/eval eval('eval('5+5')')

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. "SyntaxError: Unexpected number"

Alex M.

!!/eval eval("eval('5+5')")

HoiHoi-San

1:51 AM

@AlexM. 10

Alex M.

!!/eval eval('eval("eval('5+5')")')

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. "SyntaxError: Unexpected number"

Alex M.

!!/eval eval(eval(5+5))

HoiHoi-San

@AlexM. 10

Alex M.

just one more and I'll go to sleep :D

!!/eval eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(eval(‌eval(eval(eval(eval(5+5))))))))))))))))))))

HoiHoi-San

1:55 AM

@AlexM. 10

Alex M.

yay

I'm still going to try to come up with something to force kill it

... later

cya :) and thanks again for the recommendations

Logan M

@ton.yeung Speaking of bugs, here's an easy one to fix:

!!welcome

HoiHoi-San

@LoganM Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.

Memor-X

need to be changed to have atleast "Welcome back, my Master!"

Logan M

Methinks we may not even need it, so I'm not opposed to just !!forgeting it, but I'll put in the issue anyway.

@ton.yeung I think we can extend that rule to "don't abuse cute girls" without controversy.

Memor-X

2:02 AM

@ton.yeung make her a Loli or Miki and i'd reckon @LoganM would punish with extreme prejudice

@ton.yeung i meant her avatar

Logan M

@ton.yeung Issue submitted.

(for the welcome message)

Memor-X

@ton.yeung well i only have the wikipedia page to go by so i'll assume your correct

i would protect her from abuse and punish abusers if i had the power

Logan M

BTW does !!afk even work? I tried it before but it didn't seem to do much.

Memor-X

at some point half the stared messages are going to be !!lolis responses

!!afk

Logan M

@ton.yeung test

For some reason she doesn't seem to respond to it at all, even to confirm that the command was registered.

Memor-X

2:08 AM

!!tell ton.yeung afk work

HoiHoi-San

@Memor-X Command afk cannot be used in /tell.

Logan M

!!bonlidsa

HoiHoi-San

@LoganM That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Darnell, Batangas City, Philippines

649 3 8

c# sql-server sql workflow-foundation-4 sql-server-2005 database .net

Darnell, Batangas City, Philippines

649 3 8

c# sql-server sql workflow-foundation-4 sql-server-2005 database .net

Memor-X

!!user

Logan M

Could it be because we're on chat SE rather than chat SO?

!!undo *2

!!listcommands

HoiHoi-San

2:11 AM

@LoganM help, listen, eval, coffee, refresh, forget, info, listcommands, tell, afk, awsm, ban, unban, color, convert, define, doge, domain, findcommand, github, google, hang, inhistory, jquery, learn, lolis, gj, live, die, mdn, meme, mustache, norris, nudge, parse, spec, stat, stats, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, unonebox, urban, user, weather, welcome, wiki, xkcd, youtube, zalgo

Memor-X

oh yeh, which room was HoiHoi‑San first started in, i remember her not being able to find me because i wasn't in the room

Logan M

!!user

HoiHoi-San

@LoganM stackoverflow.com/users/23525

Memor-X

!!stats

HoiHoi-San

@Memor-X That dude sucks

Logan M

2:13 AM

It's taking my chat SE user number and looking for the corresponding SO user.

Memor-X

?????

!!stat

HoiHoi-San

@Memor-X User 96987 not found

Logan M

chat.stackexchange.com/users**23525**/logan-m > stackoverflow.com/users**23525**

Memor-X

it seems every command is trying to return a user

!!lolis

HoiHoi-San

Lolis are the best!

4

Memor-X

2:14 AM

except @LoganM's one

Logan M

@ton.yeung Is it actually trivial? You can't lookup chat user numbers any more, you have to look them up on Anime SE or something.

Memor-X

!!info

HoiHoi-San

@Memor-X I awoke on Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:10:06 GMT (that's about 5 minutes ago), got invoked 11 times, learned 2 commands

Logan M

Actually IIRC the guys at SF use the same bot so it's probably fixed there.

Just have to copy whatever they did.

@Memor-X Are you going to put in an issue for this one or should I?

Memor-X

@LoganM to be honest i don't know how so you can

Logan M

2:19 AM

'kay

Memor-X

@ton.yeung oh github.....nope not really, i dont use it apart from download .zip from it

@ton.yeung i don't think i call myself that anyway

what the hell is ermagawd anyway, i've seen weird images of a girl with that text

Logan M

Okay I made another issue.

Yuki

@ton.yeung Actually, it seems to be more over-excited teenager with a derp face for "oh my god" rather than hick.

Memor-X

i couldn't even pronounce it before learning what it actually was meant to be

@Yuki over-excited teenager = Justin Bieber fan, another reason why he should be imprisoned, for propagating the use of improper english

not trying to combine words into a single work at least

Yuki

@ton.yeung google.com/#q=define+proper+english

Does @HoiHoi-San have !!define as a command?

Memor-X

2:32 AM

@Yuki yes, !!define

!!define baka

HoiHoi-San

@Memor-X baka bow

Yuki

@Memor-X Eh, I don't want to use wiktionary...

Not sure if you can one-box the define result from Google though.

Logan M

Wao so much dorama on MSO right now:

1

Q: In response to the "lets be nicer to new users" / "people in general" threads

The following question was asked 9 minutes ago at the time of the screen shot. It has had 28 views. I'm the only person that's down-voted the question as of this time. I am only the second person to vote to close the question. Here are the comments Questions like these should have at le...

discussion

Memor-X

@Yuki well unless you code up a new command that's what she'll use

"If a deer gets struck by a car because it froze in front of headlights, its son/daughter (watching on) is unlikely to make the same mistake. This is how communities and societies evolve. Simple fact." falls of chair from hysterical laughter

Yuki

@Memor-X Please tell me Ken Ham said that...

Memor-X

2:40 AM

@Yuki Lightness Races in Orbit

son/daughter get struck by car because it froze see it's parent get struck

that was harder to type with one hand and laughing

Logan M

I don't actually see what is funny about that quote.

Memor-X

@LoganM its just how it plays out in my mind

Logan M

3:08 AM

Is anyone here familiar with Copy? I've never heard of it, but apparently they have 15 GB starting space and allow "fair sharing" so that e.g. 3 users sharing a folder could have up to 45 GB in it. If it works and is stable, it seems like it would work as a way to host the images for the bot to post.

@ton.yeung I literally just saw it on the software rec site. Never heard of it before today.

Memor-X

@LoganM i thought that's where i saw it from

Logan M

@ton.yeung It's at 2, which is the highest, but so are 4 other answers.

Logan M

3:26 AM

It doesn't seem like Copy would work after all. Unlike Dropbox, it seems I can't actually access an image directly or hotlink to it, just view it or download it. If I try to share it, the share link isn't to the image but to a download page.

Logan M

3:43 AM

Now that I think about it though, Google Drive is probably sufficient for that. I suspect our average image size will never be much bigger than 1 MB, in which case it would take over a year to fill up the drive even at 48 posts per day (which is way more than we'll actually have).

Krazer

3:58 AM

I have 25gb from that SkyDrive promotion... need to do something with it

neither can skydrive

Logan M

4:36 AM

Memor-X

@LoganM awww, that's cute

Logan M

@Memor-X I've got thousands more where that came from.

(not even exaggerating)

Memor-X

@LoganM well you don't have a public directory or .zip file i could just download so i'll have to take your work on that

Logan M

@Memor-X Right now I'm still acquiring them. Once I get all the ones I want (and prune out the ones I don't) I'll probably find some way to share it or something.

Memor-X

4:53 AM

Memor-X

5:26 AM

Logan M

5:51 AM

Looks like software recommendations is going to beat us in terms of # of day 1 questions. They're at 99 right now less than 12 hours in, while we only had 100 for the first 24 hours.

Memor-X

@LoganM but isn't that an average?

Logan M

@Memor-X No, I'm talking about the number of questions in the first day of private beta.

Eric

@LoganM Dang it.

Logan M

@Memor-X I see you made a meta post about game reqs rather than asking one.

Memor-X

@LoganM oh, wouldn't be all that surprising considering that recommendation normally get closed

Logan M

5:56 AM

@Memor-X I'm not surprised, just a bit upset. Since our private beta no other site that I remember had as many day 1 questions.

If the site gets closed during private beta then I'll still be able to claim essentially the same thing, but it's not clear whether it will be or not.

Memor-X

@LoganM thought i'd clear that up first, i'd probably just ask for Space faring games which rpg aspects and allows me to customize my crew from scratch, realistic militarily shooters i can deal with Flashpoint Rising Dragon at the moment, will need to pirate that game since i can't find out where the hell i put it, the moment i want to play it the disk is gone and i don't want to be playing it on the 360

Logan M

@Memor-X Gilles' answer seems like it isn't going to be allowed.

Memor-X

@LoganM it might still get closed, it has to keep some of the momentum over time

Logan M

@Memor-X That's one aspect, but the bigger one is proving to the CMs that the content on the site is actually useful and better than the alternatives.

Memor-X

@LoganM seems like it, though he's just one answer and it is a discussion, i'll wait a bit so wee what other people's opinions are cause there may be some rules placed in affect for game recommendation like how Arcade has special rules for ID Requests (have to have a screen shot) which differ from us

Logan M

6:07 AM

WRT the game thing. It's a bit of a slippery slope IMO. What counts as a game? Is a Rubik's cube simulator a game? Or the tech demo of some physics engine? Or a cooperative online text editor (could be used as an MMO somethingorother)? To be honest, I regularly use pretty heavy-duty data analysis software basically as a game, but it's definitely not billed as such, and I have used games for the practical purpose of stress testing machines.

Sakamoto

0

Q: What is the mission and vision of Honnouji Academy?

As per the title suggest,I want to understand the mission and vision of Honnouji Academy. Can anyone please elaborate on that? I know what Honnouji Academy is.I want to understand the mission and vision only.

kill-la-kill

Logan M

The claim that it requires different expertise, while correct, is irrelevant. I could ask a technical but practically oriented question about software for physics research, and that would also require very different expertise from most everyday software to be able to answer. Unless he's going to say that the only things that should be allowed are practical everyday things that most people would use, there's no justification for excluding this latter category.

But tbh I'm not really rooting for the site to succeed (it's not a direction I think SE should go in), so I don't really want to be a part of the conversation there.

So if that's the consensus among the people who are there, then w/e.

Interestingly, ignoring this, someone posted a game-rec:

1

Q: Two-persons keyboard-only racing game for Ubuntu

I am looking for a racing game (Tuxracer-like/MarioKart-like/cars/bikes/boats/planes/anything) that is available for Ubuntu Linux, for 2 (or more) simultaneous players. I don't have any joystick or mouse or anything, I just have one keyboard. So the game has to be controlled by both players usin...

linux ubuntu game multiplayer

kalina

8:53 AM

morning!

JNat

9:49 AM

@Krazer Oh awesome! A new anisong list by Krazer-dono!

Sakamoto

10:17 AM

0

Q: Karin's technique similar to Kushina

Warning: this may contain spoilers if you don't read manga. Please see Image for reference:

naruto

Sakamoto

11:29 AM

0

Q: How much of the Berserk storyline do the anime and OVA cover?

I watched Berserk years ago and I'm thinking of introducing someone else to it, but I'm told that the OVAs do the original manga more justice. I've not seen the OVAs just the anime series, how much of the same ground do they cover? If I remember correctly the original anime series just cut off w...

berserk

JNat

11:40 AM

@LoganM I think @ton.yeung used it before and it worked

here

It worked when Krazer messaged him, but minutes later when I messaged him it did not work

weird

Sakamoto

12:05 PM

0

Q: Are there any anime suggestion engines?

I've in the past used apps that have suggested films, books, or music to me based be providing a set of items that I've enjoyed. Is there anything like that for anime? Basically I'm looking for something that I can input that I like anime X, Y and Z and for it to suggest that I might like anime ...

anime-history

JNat

2:39 PM

@ton.yeung np

Sakamoto

3:01 PM

0

Q: Are the final fantasy mangas spinoffs or retellings?

I have played several of the Final Fantasy games and know that many of them have manga counterparts. Having finished the games, I wouldn't overly want to read a retelling of the story I spent hours grinding through. However, If they are spin off stories I would be interested in reading them as I...