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8:00 PM
costs of what? if we have a free interconnected mesh which every router owner is interested in keeping online, there's no cost for any services!
 
blockchain is inefficient
 
the model has lots of room for optimization, and I'm not suggesting its model be used, but that its design can be borrowed from instead of using other more lossy data protection techniques.
as a fun fact, all cell phones on a call plan already consumes channels for SMS, even if you don't pay for an SMS plan - so all SMS usages are realistically free. cell companies don't really have a reason to charge for it, other than that they want to
(it's why you can receive messages from your service provider even when you can't send any)
 
calls are free too by that logic
 
realistically nobody needs to charge money from anyone for anything :p
 
on the grand scheme of things, everything is free, but that's not what I mean, haha
 
8:04 PM
the only real currency is souls
 
I'm hoping the low earth orbit internet satellites that Elon Musk is trying to make working by 2020 are gonna change a lot
 
in 2020 I'm going to turn 22. feelsoldman
 
in 2020 I'm going to turn!
 
in 2020 I'm going to turn 20. feelsoldman
 
2020 everyday!
for the entire year
imagine how obnoxious those weed-smoking bums were in the year 420
 
8:06 PM
fun fact: 2020 is 20x of 101, which means absolutely nothing.
 
when's 5g hitting the market tho
 
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@Avery 2020 is also 22x of 91.81818181818181, which is a cool recurring sequence
 
my maths teach once gave the whole class the task of counting from 1 to 100 in under 15 minutes and I gave the closest answer of about ~6000 by counting multiples of 1…5s
 
you mean the sum? isn't it 5050?
 
8:08 PM
it is
 
isn't it something like write something then write it backwards then do some magic?
 
@Hakase That one has a nice formula and its derivation is even nicer.
 
idk we saw that on third grade or smth I don't remember
 
yeah haha
1 + 100, 2 + 99, ...
101 * 50
5050
see I know maths guys
 
wow a bunch of nerds here :p
 
8:09 PM
just kidding, I got kicked out of the extended maths class. I scored 0 on both midterms and final exams
I wish I knew calculus.
 
I wish I didn't have that much trouble with maths
 
I don't have that much trouble with maths either
 
first day of maths I finished like one tenth of the first book
(we had 5)
 
but the asian curriculum is like ragequit hardcore level
 
like, on 11th grade
 
8:10 PM
it's mostly coz almost everything they teach they don't give a real life application for, and no imaginable visualization or just SOMETHING to exemplify the usage of the formulas or approaches
 
then teacher came to me and yelled at me telling me to not rush
 
typical teacher, gotta keep you stupid
 
so I stopped rushing for the whole year because jfc
 
when I was getting private lessons preparing to get into uni, and came to school with a 1-stop solution instead of the 3-step one which the teach was explaining there, she said she didn't teach that shit so sit the fuck down with your smart-ass university formula and don't meddle with her teaching process
 
 
8:12 PM
like a third of my classmates had to re-take the exam after a rushed tutoring month
 
haha, I love that
 
^ my grades from this year
when I don't rush, I fall back. And that happens
 
whenever an authority figure tries to tell me their course is better, I get to explain to them how I absolutely don't care
you'd think if I wanted their opinion, I'd had asked them
 
literally worst grade of this year's diploma.
 
well, thing is it was high school, so it doesn't matter what either of us think
 
8:14 PM
 
school isn't gonna expel me or fire her
 
the only other lower ones are literature and religion
and physics
I don't get physics.
 
Hah, religion.
That was phun.
 
hah, physics!
 
public high school?
 
8:15 PM
private, ~90% scholarship.
 
public high university… not?
 
left it though.
it was pretty painful
 
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well, thing is it was high school, so it doesn't matter what either of us think
 
honestly HS is BS
especially turkish curriculum
@Gallifreyan did you attend HS here?
 
I dropped out of high school pretty much immediately after the range of free education, so I didn't have to deal with our broken institution system that much
 
8:16 PM
@Avery Yes, since 8th grade.
 
huh
 
it was a public school, so naturally had nothing going on for it
 
@Unihedron I dropped out but had to reenroll because dad was threatening legal action
@Gallifreyan is it just me or is the curriculum pretty bs
 
I guess I gotta thank my school for not giving me enough free time to get into drugs n shit
 
(well, especially MF curriculum)
 
8:18 PM
@Avery same, but I had my own job, so he had no power against me
I had no legal obligation.
 
@Avery mm especially dat slightly longer hair
 
@Hakase [ well it's mostly pre-transition post-transition ]
@Unihedron finding jobs here is painfully hard
esp. without a degree
 
where is here?
 
Turkey
 
@Avery True that.
 
8:21 PM
I mean the maths book this year was like
 
I don't have friends in turkey, but aren't most places in asia pretty open about job opportunities for the young?
as long as you're competent
 
@Avery I only see [ attractive | attractive ]
> In February 2015, SpaceX asked the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to consider future innovative uses of the Ka-band spectrum before the FCC commits to 5G communications regulations that would create barriers to entry, since SpaceX is a new entrant to the satellite communications market.
5G boi
internet 2020
 
@Hakase that's a valid way to look at it
 
god I wish some things moved faster
 
8:24 PM
I wish my life moved at all, haha
 
your life is only what you make of it
 
age 6 - programming
now - programming
 
move it and it'll move
 
:endMe:
I picked up digital art, music (I now own an e-piano) and game design several years ago, haven't done many projects in those fields
 
me age 13 − programming useless visual basic bullshit, me now − programming games! (and banking software >.>)
 
8:26 PM
I wanted to start a game circle but haven't gotten anyone onboard :'(
 
just start and post your progress regularly on gamedev forums and subs
and on gamedev SE chat
I don't wanna post my shit coz it's not something anyone else can help me with coding and developing the concept of
I'll definitely be looking for artists and musicians later tho
but code and design is on me
 
 
I don't want to post my stuff because it's not finished, haha
 
there found it
 
well, it might never get finished if you don't do something with it
 
8:27 PM
first book is meh but look at other 2 under it
 
I'm oddly insecure about showing sneak peeks / promising content that I'm not confident about happening
 
one is physics and one if maths
 
lots of games are only worth to make for your own enjoyment, not for sale
maybe for a bit of sale, but a lot of the time it won't net you much
like look at the entire phone games market
 
@Unihedron maybe I'm wrong (psure I'm not though) and @Gallifreyan can prob confirm, but it's very hard to find a decent job without a degree here
 
free games as far as eye can see
 
8:28 PM
@Avery No idea, never tried to.
 
@Avery a "decent job" is quite a high standard to set when you're not far in academics, what about an okay job?
 
@Unihedron just remember that every other artist/creator out there has the same fears and insecurities
 
personally graduated high school only but experience and expertise alone is keeping me alive
 
decent job as in "not mcdonalds" or "not a101 (discount store chain)"
 
and if your work is better than average, you're already ahead of most
and people can see that
and you might find allies if you publish it
 
8:30 PM
roast my incompetence unihedro.github.io/a-small-game
 
if it's just code, I won't be able to comprehend it
 
it's a game
 
if it requires a bunch of linux distros to apt-get, same
lemme get to my pc then
 
no graphics or fancy mechanics, just a small game I made in two hours, haha
 
also avg wage is like $3 here
 
8:31 PM
dudes just start repairing computers lol
if I knew I could do that in school, I'd totally go around repairing "emails" and "antiviruses"
 
"microsoft" tech support?
 
just glue some "computer repairs! cheap! guaranteed!" with your phone number and let the grannies come
 
ehh
there's competition
 
well, there's a chance you'll get called and be offered a chance to earn some easy cash
without it, that chance is like super low
how often do you mistakenly get calls to repair a computer?
@Uni I can't figure out how it works
 
well
 
8:37 PM
but I know my score was 0
 
I mean I have a meh relationship with microsoft. Wouldn't want to ruin it by installing pirated windows to grannies
 
click on the numbers that appear, in order
repeat that until you lose
 
@Avery who's gonna know?
@Unihedron they just keep appearing and I lose without doing anything
 
true, but still, the price isn't worth it
 
what the… there is no price!
 
8:38 PM
arrested for license infringement?
 
do you think there are grannies out there who undercover police computer repairmen in case they install pirated windowses?
 
no, like
 
I worked online since 14, programming projects on software and mobile apps, didn't require a degree for me; freelancing is a viable alternative, the difference is that you have to convince a client they want to work with you, if you can't do that
honestly you can't do any job at all
 
$5-7 for installing an OS is just not worth the time
 
if you know your time is worth that much then sure
 
8:39 PM
if you can get more then yea sure
 
do you have any idea how long it takes to install windows 7 on a pentium 2 on a 0.000001rpm hdd?
 
not going to challenge you or anything, I know I'd take $5
 
if I it earns me less than $10/hr, it's not worth it
 
give em an ssd upgrade coz it'll definitely make it fly and include the cost
 
there are all sorts of psychos around here
 
8:40 PM
there are all sorts of psychos everywhere
 
have cheapo usb drives with autoinstalling windows distros and just instruct them to take the usb out tomorrow
that's what I've seen people do these days
 
that could work
 
usbs are a dime a dozen
 
but seriously after all those years of working on programming and sysadmin stuff, it feels kinda... humiliating to do something basic like that.
 
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8:43 PM
I've read about people who plug in a remote control hardware thing with a 4g modem and a remote tech does everything with the computer, and the dude goes away to other customers to install/take back those same remote things while the remote tech does the slow shit from the HQ
maybe this is more of a corporate thing where you aren't that afraid that your remote thing will get stolen
idk I haven't worked in pc repairs
 
oh and
pentium 2 computers usually can't boot from usb
 
there are fake cd or diskette adapters for IDE cables
that'll fool the old computers to boot from usb drives or sata ssds/hdds
 
still, too much work, too little money
I mean I'm procrastinating atm but I really don't find my time worthy of the risk
 
then only take expensive calls and put a large enough percentage on top of new/replacement hardware costs
that's what my guy explained to me
let the high schoolers go do long cheap jobs and do simple expensive jobs yourself
unrelated, but we stopped calling him after that time :p
 
haha
 
8:47 PM
he started his own repair company that year tho
 
when I was at high school, they wanted me to help them update their parent-teacher association event info, and the chairman would treat me to free lunch afterwards every time
I would get free meals just for around four lines of HTML
 
that's a nice deal
 
I wrote a whole visualization project / game for physics class because teacher threatened to not let me pass the year
 
It is, still fond of it.
 
I got nothing tangible for a year of staying late every friday at school helping our newspaper typeset text blocks and print in higher quality than normal :I
I only remember about that whole experience maybe once every few years
 
8:50 PM
is that voluntary? I was in the newspaper club for a year out of my own discretion so I could hang out with my best friend
well, I took him as my best friend, he probably didn't care about me at all
 
completely voluntary but otherwise I'd be wasting my free time in cs 1.6
cyka blyatting the noobs
 
oh, it's an excuse
 
cs1.6 was like
the perfect game
(for its time)
 
eh
tf2 is like the perfect game
 
wait, what's cs 1.6?
 
8:52 PM
except I can't handle the thought of wasting my life playing it all the time
 
@Unihedron Counter Strike
the original.
 
so I had to drop it after a total of like 4.5k hours
 
oh. haha, I don't recognize games, so I miss out on quite a lot of these conversations
 
team fortress 2
a lot of kids these days think tf2 is titanfall 2 but they're idiots
 
I have like 2.5k on diablo 3 and that makes me feel bad
4.5k hours...
 
8:53 PM
I've only played through a single time in d3 just to get a sense of it
 
the adventure mode added with expansion was what made the game fun
 
d2 was my shit from the very first grade of school
I must have played like 30k hours total
 
damn
 
well, it's only natural for the BEST GAME IN THE WORLD
 
My favourite game is the stanley parable, and I've only played for around 30 hours
 
8:55 PM
I've played it all the way up until the end of high school and then in uni I did a normal-nightamare-hell run with my uni friend in the span of 5 months
 
yeah I don't play a lot of games
 
every everning for 4-5 hours
 
4-5 hours?
those are rookie numbers.
You need to ramp up your game
 
well, there was some eating and sleeping to do between university lectures too
we were busy people back then :p
 
8:57 PM
I'm trying to play a lot of different games these last few years
that whole weight of the self-conscious thought that I'm wasting my time otherwise doesn't let me keep playing the same thing for too long
a few months ago I kinda relapsed into tf2 everyday for a few weeks but when my mind started getting invaded by the thoughts of buying strange weapons so that the noobs would be alerted of my pro skills… I snapped back to reality and deleted every item and then the game and steam with it
 
haha, that's what keeps me from gaming. thankfully I actually picked up crafts instead of being stuck in a depression spiral.
 
I've been more focused on developing my game since then
I gotta say game design requires a very diverse range of experteeseses~
 
game design is art
all art requires appreciating life and projecting your vision onto it
just by being able to dabble in it, you're already a great person
 
@Unihedron sorry if I'm totally gonna DEMOLISH your bubble but to me arts and crafts is a completely useless affair unlike the things you can enjoy for much longer like games with some content randomization and generation
 
@Hakase don't worry you didn't do anything
in fact to me it's the opposite, so I guess to each their own
 
9:03 PM
I've thought about it for a bit and decided I wanna do games, and in the process explore a lot of different new games, take a deep look into the games I already know and like, learn about storytelling and character design, art styles and game mechanics
I mean you can find similar values in any other thing, but this is the area of expertise that I enjoy the most I guess
I bet there are people out there who can enjoy crating metal sheets at a steel foundry and explain all the intricacies of material resistances and mechanical durability in depth just as much
one thing tho I won't ever understand is theoretical maths which has no practical application by design
it's like the science of wasting time and overheating your brain simultaneously
I'm just kidding, it's totally like playing cs 1.6 all day every day :p
I know the feeling
 
I suck at any kind of art
 
what about pixel art?
want an artistic challenge?
 
Right, good luck with that, I have to go for now. See you around.
 
thehiveworks.com look through every comic's art style on this collective page and find the one you can imitate most easily
 
pixel art, meh
 
9:08 PM
I only care about game design to the extent of when I see some good game that lights up my passion, and it never lasts longer than that.
 
draw something with some story, doesn't matter
 
none >_>
 
draw one comic with like 3-4 panels and not necessarily a story or anything funny going on there
 
Curse whomever invented pixel art and popularised it so every second platform adventure uses it.
 
but draw it every day for 10 days straight
 
9:08 PM
I'm not really good with pixel art
I do pixel sprite design, but not really art.
 
@Hakase That's how Sunstone started.
 
then look at your progress and you'll be (or won't be) surprised
@Gallifreyan link pls
 
@Hakase gimme the start of a story, I'll do it
 
@Hakase Well, it's not pixel art, but started as just a few pics.
 
@Unihedron the start of the story is that you were given this very task right here, by me, right now. Go!
jesus christ forget about pixel art!
none of those comics are pixel art
 
9:10 PM
sounds like a topic I would enjoy when I was 10, I'm getting sick of this "up on your ass" meta theme in light novels
 
don't mind the watercolor work, just look at the black pen lines
it's not too hard to imitate a style like that
@Unihedron like what?
 
ehhh I got one don't worry
 
ok, I could post a random topic from one of the random topic generator sites
 
I'll post my comic tomorrow
 
ok coz I won't post mine, I'll make it a situation in my game :p
 
9:12 PM
@Hakase Really adult and NSFW, but this is where it started. First a few somewhat-related pics, then BOOM! a popular comic.
 
(in like 20 fucking years jesus christ the artist's crysis is real!)
 
@Gallifreyan wow that's not a beginner's level of drawsmanship
 
@Hakase Well, he's been making some things before that, sure.
My point was - discrete works sometimes develop into a continuous story.
 
oh fuck my shirt just tore all through the round collar thingie
guess I'm riding back in a torn shirt :I
could rock this punky style tho
@Gallifreyan and my point is you don't have to be a watercolors, gouache, pastel or paintbrush kinda artist to succeed
just draw with one liner pen
just black lines
 
9:16 PM
4 people gave me a Llama badge on DeviantArt. What does this mean?
 
maybe some striped faux shading
it means don't worry about it it's DA upvotes
 
@Hakase This guy is all digital. He used ZBrush for another comic, though.
 
well, shittywatercolour is all analog :p
it's much easier to learn to draw with a pen and paper than on a computer
you don't have to draw anatomically correct classical human figures and faces
just fuck that
it's pointless for comics and games anyway
 
Be like Randall Munroe.
 
yea
"I hope you like text"
 
9:19 PM
Being able to draw well is cool, though.
 
it also takes a fuck ton of time to finish a drawing like that
 
I'm planning on taking a drawing class next year.
 
and so much more to get to that level
 
This one used ZBrush, I think.
 
if your goal is to become a pro artist/painter, then yea sure
 
9:20 PM
 
use MSPaint for all I care if it's for a short game
not to say it's industry standard but look at undertale
 
> just a quick dragon sketch, unfortunately as i was nearing the end of coloring zbrush crashed cause i did a stooped thing XD
F-ck, that is a quick sketch?!
 
ye you just draw some quick shapes like cylinders, bend them in a pre-set way, apply tiled texture deformation and fix some angles
maybe 20 minutes total
if you're experienced in these deformations and have downloaded some presets
 
3d modelling is magic
 
9:23 PM
yea it kinda is
it's fucking hard to design good 3d game levels
so I'm not even touching that
reddit.com/user/Shitty_Watercolour once again coz it's just a fun list of comics
and thehiveworks.com for a huge list of different unrelated comics
I tried to draw in certain styles before and it took a fuckton of time so I'm not gonna try those bad styles anymore
I've already decided playing piano and guitar isn't for me cos I just can't focus on playing and enjoying at the same time
but for drawing there are still different styles and approaches I have yet to try
you can't play a melody as simple as… a simple melody in a least concentration-requiring style, but for drawing there's still a chance
I'm hopeful!
 
9:41 PM
 
9:51 PM
@Ave you can try sending emails to all the workplaces you can think of, anonymously, but with your age situation and your expertise level and monetary expectation so only those which are interested in that kind of work force would reply to you
 
might try
 
I've heard some stories of non-official side jobbing that started in this manner
from my former colleagues who couldn't legally get a job at a young age
they were weird dudes tho, didn't have big aspirations in life but still they've gotten from the farthest cities to here which is already a huge success in the life of anyone from far russian cities
"weird" by my measurements
pretty standard guys I guess on average
one guy from my univ course said he wants to become a head of some IT department, doesn't matter where or in what industry
weird like that
k I'm going to sleep now
nighties!
 
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10:33 PM
@Taisho reminds me of Atelier
 
11:04 PM
@Unihedron actually i would add it. Aniplex USA's page in the list (which needs to be removed now) was just a list of streaming providers of their works.
 
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