CG&CC-gaming

Then you boot up terraria, and go to the mod browser, and download the following mods:

Magic Storage
Recipe Browser
Thorium Mod
Helpful Hotkeys
Boss Checklist
imkSushi's Mod

Those are the 6 I'm running. Recipe Browser, Helpful Hotkeys, and Boss Checklist are UI only so I don't think you need them, but I listed them just to be safe

Magic Storage gets rid of the "store all of your stuff in a bunch of different chests", and puts it all in one chest, but it takes a bunch of gems to get up and running, and more gems to improve

imkSushi gets rid of the "farm a particular enemy for a particular drop", as most enemies have a chance to drop a token that can be used to purchase key items. So, for example, instead of farming a bunch of sharks, you can buy that Diving Helmet

It doesn't unbalance the game though: You don't get enough drops to buy everything. It just lets you buy the last few items you're missing. And there are different kinds of tokens based on your location and current progression

anyways, if those don't sound enjoyable, I'm willing to forgo them :)

DJMcMayhem

2:33 AM

Magic storage sounds amazing haha

Nathan Merrill

2:45 AM

And if anybody else wants to join, feel free

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman My first experience with them was when I (briefly) joined an "only ocean" survival server. No sheep to be found, AKA no sleeping and no setting spawn.

Anonymous

The tokens from imkSushi are essential imo. Fishing is so frustrating in vanilla.

Anonymous

Also if your world doesn't have a real sword shrine or a jungle shrine with a lava charm, gg

Anonymous

I've considered getting into Terraria speedrunning

DJMcMayhem

3:01 AM

@Mego But how likely is that? Especially in a large world

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem 4 shrines in large world, 2/3 chance of each being fake, so 16/81 ~= 20%

Anonymous

I don't know the spawn rate of jungle shrines (it's more complicated because it depends on jungle worldgen) or the drop rate of lava charms, but it's definitely possible to get unlucky and not find one. It's even more likely to not find one for everyone playing on a MP world.

Nathan Merrill

@Mego these items are less important with Thorium

Anonymous

Also limited sky loot, so balloons and horseshoes are a limited commodity

Nathan Merrill

^ This matters way more to me. I love my jumps

Anonymous

3:11 AM

@NathanMerrill Arkhalis is always important D:

Nathan Merrill

Dunno, Thorium gives me so many weapons to play with I try to avoid swords

Just because I always go swords

Anonymous

Being able to make all of the balloons from tokens from regular underground enemies and the harpies that harass you while building a skybridge is incredible

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill True, but I still <3 the Arkhalis

Anonymous

o O ( I hope I'm spelling that right )

Nathan Merrill

Also, Arkhalis is well less chance than what you describe

Anonymous

3:13 AM

In any Terraria setup, the first thing I do is rush merchant, collect penguins, and make a statue for the first blood moon after getting the mechanic

Nathan Merrill

9/10 times it's an enchanted sword, only 1/10 times do you get the Arkhalis

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill True, but it feels especially bad to not even get to try the 10% roll because all 4 shrines are fake

Anonymous

The first world I played on, I got lucky and got the Arkhalis from the first shrine I found

Anonymous

Then my friends wanted their own, so we made like 20 more worlds just to shrine hunt

Nathan Merrill

I literally just start digging down when I play. Dunno, I just love exploring caverns

Anonymous

3:15 AM

I make a penguin statue, horde penguins, and go get evil mushrooms for powder so that I can slaughter dozens of evil penguins during blood moons to farm Pedguin's set

Anonymous

And then I wear Pedguin's set, winter coat, and no other vanity items :P

Nathan Merrill

I actually really like the Starfury

Anonymous

The Starfury is a great tool and an ok sword

Nathan Merrill

Right. I'm an explorer, not a fighter :)

I've actually gotten pretty good at aiming the stars for enemies as well

but yeah, it's mostly for the exploration

Anonymous

Wallhack Sword :P

DJMcMayhem

3:22 AM

@Mego perfect

El'endia Starman

4:48 AM

@PhiNotPi Oh yeah that would straight up just suck.

Veskah

12:30 PM

@NathanMerrill Spelunking is the best part of both Terraria and Minecraft

Give me a few stacks of torches, a decent pick and sword, and some platforms and I'm good

Veskah

4:20 PM

Man, now I kinda want to go Minecraft spelunking. Haven't played that in probably a decade

DJMcMayhem

@NathanMerrill I've never even heard about Akhalis before, TIL

Though after looking them up, it seems like the enchanted sword is better than the arkhalis.

DJMcMayhem

5:26 PM

This is seriously impressive: youtube.com/watch?v=opCDN2jkZaI&feature=youtu.be

Pavel

Terraria is one of those games I really, really enjoy playing with other people and can't stand it by myself

The core gameplay loop is really fun but I can never play these types of games where you have to create your own structure and decide what you want next by yourself

So I'm happy if there's just someone telling me go build this or go mine that or go kill that boss

DJMcMayhem

Yeah, I greatly enjoy the "RPG-ish" element (hunt for loot, fight harder and harder bosses, get better gear, etc.) but trying to make a creative house for example stresses me out

Nathan Merrill

@Pavel Kill Skeletron. that's always my goal.

WoF is way easier than Skeletron. Skeletron is easily the hardest boss for me.

Pavel

These games always have a goal (Factorio - launch a rocket, Minecraft - kill the ender dragon), but the way to actually reach that goal is really nebulous and a task for someone else

DJMcMayhem

At least for factorio, I feel like the goal isn't that nebulous because a smaller goal is always right around the corner, and they balance it so that you're on an ever increasing difficulty ramp that leads you closer and closer to the ultimate goal

Pavel

5:39 PM

True, it's a bit different in that it gives you the structured tech tree

DJMcMayhem

I've never beaten the ender dragon though, you're right about that one

I mostly enjoy exploring mines and making farms in that game lol

Pavel

But you still have to plan out how you're going to get there, when I play factorio singleplayer I tick each of the boxes on the progression tree but with systems that are horribly unscalable because I just can't think ahead that far

Nathan Merrill

Actually, I added the mod Boss Checklist to do basically that

I go through each boss, and see if I can do it

Pavel

I like call of duty campaigns

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel I think that's normal. I made horribly unscalable systems too, and the only way to be able to think that far ahead is to actually get to the end game to be familiar with it

Pavel

5:43 PM

But it's not nearly as fun to look at a fine-tuned machine you've built than at the pile of hot garbage

Most of my time was spent playing on the server I run for me and my friends where they do a lot of the planning and build the core components like the main bus and I use that to build my own small projects, mostly creating weapons, exploring outward, and murdering all the biters

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem Incorrect - Arkhalis is one of the fastest-hitting melee weapons (I think only Fetid Baghnakhs are faster in vanilla). It also has good knockback for its attack speed, so it's really easy to stunlock enemies with it. Enchanted swords are slightly stronger ice blades.

DJMcMayhem

Ice blades are the bomb

(in pre-hardmode)

Pavel

So is there a PPCG terraria world or something?

er

CG&CC

DJMcMayhem

You can call it PPCG if you like, I still do :P

And no, Nathan and I were planning on playing tonight (7pm MST, 1am UTC)

Pavel

Also, why is 'Programming Puzzles AND Code Golf' PPCG but 'Code Golf AND Code Challenges' is CG**&**CC

It should just be CGCC

Way easier to type

@DJMcMayhem Are you guys open to people joining

DJMcMayhem

5:51 PM

15 hours ago, by Nathan Merrill

And if anybody else wants to join, feel free

Pavel

Oh cool

Anonymous

Best PHM weapons (IMO): Arkhalis/Cascade for melee, Phoenix Blaster/Star Cannon for ranged, Water Bolt/Space Gun for magic, Beenades for throwing, and rethinking poor life decisions for summons

Pavel

Do I need hamachi or does someone have a server or does Terraria now have built-in peer-to-peer support?

Nathan Merrill

@Mego do you know if summons are viable on Thorium?

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill I think so

DJMcMayhem

5:53 PM

@Pavel idk, but you'll need some mods

Nathan Merrill

It's through Steam

DJMcMayhem

@Mego Space gun + meteorite armor is beuatiful

Pavel

Yeah I saw the list above

DJMcMayhem

@NathanMerrill Were you thinking crimson, corruption, or random?

Anonymous

The T-rex is a pretty good summon in PHM for Thorium

Nathan Merrill

5:54 PM

Corruption. I hate crimson

Anonymous

But vampire knives

DJMcMayhem

I'm totally fine with corruption, cause I'm doing crimson on my single player world, but that's kinda funny cause I dislike corruption and like crimson way more ha

Anonymous

Though if you're using imkSushi, it doesn't matter

Nathan Merrill

yep, imkSushi

Anonymous

Yeah nvm, Corruption is significantly better in that case

Nathan Merrill

5:56 PM

Also, just beat The Grand Thunderbird. What an easy boss

Anonymous

Because the main appeal of Crimson (vamp knives) is still available

Anonymous

Birb is meant to be an introductory boss, like Slime King :P

Pavel

Anonymous

Also it's important because its drops are the first real gear that throwers get

Pavel

Hey guys does this game have ui scaling

Anonymous

5:57 PM

Resolution

Nathan Merrill

clearly. Slime King is a terrible first boss, btw, because it takes so long to get slime rain. And most players don't know to craft the item

Pavel

Lowering the resolution just put it in the middle of the screen with black bars

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill I think it's intended that it's fought initially on the outskirts of the world

DJMcMayhem

I thought the eye is the first boss

Nathan Merrill

@Mego does he randomly appear there or something?

@DJMcMayhem This is always my first boss

Anonymous

5:58 PM

@NathanMerrill Yep, chance to appear in the outer third of the world

Nathan Merrill

oh I didn't know that.

Anonymous

Eye is the first main progression boss, but if you can beat eye, you can beat slime king

Pavel

WTF this is actually crap

El'endia Starman

@Mego Outer...third...?

Pavel

This game is unplayable with a 4k monitor?

DJMcMayhem

5:59 PM

How does queen bee rank compared to eye? Or brain/eater for that matter?

El'endia Starman

With all the comparisons between Terraria and Minecraft, I was expecting Terraria to have an unlimited world space.

DJMcMayhem

Nope. Limited (though large)

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Nope. 3 world sizes.

Anonymous

terraria.gamepedia.com/Map_size

Nathan Merrill

It's actually a good thing for Terraria as the world edges are actually different biomes

DJMcMayhem

6:00 PM

Anyone else find it incredibly annoying to build on the edges of the world when you have to move your mouse instead of walking?

Pavel

Ah, I looked it up, UI scaling is only available from the in-game settings, not the main menu

DJMcMayhem

That always drives me crazy

Nathan Merrill

Who builds at the edge of the world?

Pavel

So how do I install mods?

DJMcMayhem

I do when I'm making a bridge over the ocean for example

Anonymous

6:01 PM

@Pavel Install tmodloader, then go to mod browser

Pavel

ty

Nathan Merrill

forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/…

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman They're actually pretty different. I think Terraria is much more progression focused

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem It's even worse on console

Nathan Merrill

The mod browser is in-game after you install tmodloader

DJMcMayhem

6:01 PM

Ew

It's hard to even imagine playing such a mouse-centric game on console

Anonymous

The lock-on mechanic is the only reason why it's playable

Anonymous

And then the lock-on mechanic likes to not work when there's lag (like MP), so it becomes unplayable

Anonymous

And then you get Daedalus and it's almost playable again, except you aim the arrows with the right stick and the cursor is super slow

DJMcMayhem

@NathanMerrill Also, what were you thinking for difficulty/world size?

Nathan Merrill

expert large

DJMcMayhem

6:06 PM

I'll take some getting used to expert, but ok

Anonymous

Expert is rough

Anonymous

But the mods make it more manageable

Nathan Merrill

oh, I always do expert :)

DJMcMayhem

It doesn't help that the only time I've tried expert was also on mediumcore lol

Anonymous

Can't wait for slimes to have guns with master mode in journey's end

Nathan Merrill

6:07 PM

oh yeah, I hate mediumcore

Anonymous

Mediumcore is a mistake

DJMcMayhem

Then what is hardcore?

Nathan Merrill

you permanently die

which is also terrible

I hate losing items. I hate losing gold, but that's more manageable

Pavel

I figured out my resolution woes
I tries using 1440p as my lower resolution, but the new nvidia driver uses integer scaling for pixel art games so that the graphics don't get blurry when upscaled, but integer scaling requires the lower resolution to evenly divide into the native resolution

DJMcMayhem

I know how hardcore works. I meant if mediumcore is a mistake, then what is hardcore?

@NathanMerrill Yup, cause it makes you make bad decisions to go try and get them back

Anonymous

6:09 PM

@DJMcMayhem Extra mistake

Anonymous

Ultrahardcore mode: uninstalls the game and removes it from your steam library

DJMcMayhem

Supreme ultrahardcore mode formats your hard drive when you die.

Sherlock9

Hi @EricTressler! I'm trying to get Tametsi to work on my work Macbook, and I was wondering if I could ask you for the .jar file to run it directly? I already own it on Steam, and have completed every puzzle already; I'd just like the ability to replay it on all of my computers :D

Anonymous

Ultimatecore triggers HCF

DJMcMayhem

Highest Common Factor?

Anonymous

6:13 PM

Halt & Catch Fire

DJMcMayhem

Which mode triggers nasal demons?

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem That's just vanilla hardmode underworld

Pavel

HCF seems less bad than your disk being formatted

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem pretty wild

Anonymous

@Pavel The catch fire part is literal

DJMcMayhem

6:17 PM

10

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Pavel

Alrighty everything is set up

Also my characters are gone but that's ok

DJMcMayhem

Those stars are going to make no sense to anyone looking back at the transcript

El'endia Starman

They didn't make sense to me either...

...until I looked at Discord.

Pavel

Terraria has an interesting mechanic where you can persist characters between worlds

Anonymous

@Pavel Yep, plus piggy bank and safe inventory

DJMcMayhem

6:21 PM

Yeah, I've always thought that was weird, but it kinda makes sense. It's hard to say that it really cheapens anything because you still have to get the good gear in one world first

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem Yeah well, some jokes are worth it :P

Pavel

Come to think of it, I saw a factorio mod somewhere that let you put items into a rocket other than satellites to launch them to a different world

...the only Factorio mods I use is one that extends reach and a whole bunch that make explosions look and sound cooler

DJMcMayhem

Factorio has a lot mods that make the game way better without really getting away from the feel of vanilla (Far reach, water tiles, squeak through, even distribution)

Anonymous

Bottleneck

Veskah

lad

Anonymous

6:31 PM

Alright that joke is played out

Veskah

Came back to some chatty cathys

Anonymous

It's my lunch break and I don't want to go back to work, so naturally I'm chatting here :P

Veskah

It's my work and I also don't want to go back to work

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