@GnomeSlice not as red as what i expected when i read Mars and clicked on it

@MadScientist this about Trump saying that 5 Dems should go back to, and i paraphrase here, their shithole corrupt countries (despite 4/5 being US Born because that's aparently not enough for Trump America)? or did he do something else which is just as racist

@GnomeSlice Honestly that article about the guy who moved to Provo was very inspiring.

Cause I mean when you actually, actually, look out across America, it isn't a bunch of talk show hosts and news anchors and political personas: it's just a bunch of everyday people trying to do something with their lives and largely agreeing on many many topics

@Nik3141 I'm not so sure. At this point I can't help but think that I have some fundamental disagreement with the people who still support Trump

@Wipqozn They're already in the broken and crime-infested places they came from!

Okay, this is getting crazy here in Belgium. Every couple weeks there's a grenade exploding somewhere in the province of Antwerp

Usually it's in Antwerp city itself, but this morning one exploded in Willebroek, which never sees stuff like that

vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2019/07/15/…

@MadScientist I've been just shaking about it for hours. This is a deliberate strategy, he's firing off complete sentences without glaring grammatical error - that means that there is a grown-up in the room. He's just counting on the numbers supporting a white nationalist agenda.

@TimStone At least they're not spiders

Like, imagine having hundreds of spiders crawling all over your yard, porch and screen veranda. shudder

@Jolenealaska That probably means Stephen Miller wrote it

That's an image I can definitely see.

This is bad.

This is really bad.

UK ISP Virgin Media has blocked image hosting site Imgur over allegations of child pornography

James Alex Fields Jr. will be sentenced today in the Commonwealth of Virginia. He has already been sentenced to 29 life sentences for federal hate crimes. The jury in the state case recommended a sentence of life + 419 years for first degree murder, aggravated malicious wounding, malicious wounding, and failure to stop at the scene of an accident resulting in death.

@Unionhawk That's the guy that ran over a protester in Charlottesville, right?

@Unionhawk what did this person do?

@Memor-X it's the white supremacist who killed Heather Heyer during the Charlottesville protests by running her over with his car

@Nzall ahhhh. yeh fuck him

@Unionhawk Link to story?

@TimStone but...like...why?

I mean I guess the stuff with some countries developing satellite-destroying stuff is concerning, but still...

@MBraedley there's not much story other then "Sentencing is today", there'll probably be a story when sentencing has happened

In new that will make @TimStone happy, it looks like only 7 candidates will qualify for the third Democratic debate (Biden, Buttigieg, Harris, Sanders, Warren, Beto, Booker)

> Federal prosecutors say a search of Jeffrey Epstein's home safe turned up a bogus passport that listed a Saudi Arabia residence along with "piles of cash" and "dozens of diamonds."

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-15/…

I suspect he won't be released on bail after all

it's almost like ability to pay cash bail is not correlated to whether or not someone is a flight risk in any way

> Italian neo-Nazis, connected to Russian separatist forces in Ukraine, arrested in N. Italy with Qatari air-to-air missile

Having a fake passport and a pile of diamonds is probably at the very top of the list that makes you a potential flight risk

@TimStone I had serious issues parsing that. How do you arrest someone with an air-to-air missile?

Wait they arrested them using a missile or they arrested them, and found that they had one

Missiles are now cops, data accepted

Don't those things weigh several tons apiece?

They had a Qatari air-to-air missile, yeah

That seems like the least useful sort of missile to have

vs surface to air, surface to surface

@Unionhawk Unless they also have some fighter aircraft lying around somewhere, yes.

@Frank No, as an example, a Sidewinder missile is 188lbs

Like it's still a bomb in the framework of "we don't have an aircraft" but

@MBraedley That's it? Shows what I know about military hardware.

Look you don't have to be a smart person to be a neo-Nazi

Even then it ranks below air to surface here I think

But no, the general idea seems to be they were funnelling weapons to the Russian separatists in the Ukraine

@Frank Now mind you, a Sidewinder is pretty much the smallest guided air-to-air missile.

aha

@MBraedley What little I know about them is that they're fast and nimble.

Oh, I was wondering if they were dismantling it and using the explosives for a terror attack.

@puzzlepiece87 I doubt there is all that much in there, compared to most other explosive weapons systems you could use

I don't think it takes a lot of damage to a very fast complicated flying thing to make it a not flying thing anymore.

Probably more complicated is making sure the payload gets to the very fast flying thing.

@TimStone To be fair, they seem to have the same tendency towards casualties on use.

@puzzlepiece87 I wonder which ones of these are acceptable to @Unionhawk

A not insignificant amount of the missile is fuel, I imagine, since it has to get to the very fast flying thing by being a very faster flying thing.

@Unionhawk Since I was out sick and didn't pay attention to this room for a week, I get to reply to this now: Instructions include being wary of influence by sinister dark lords and recommendations against use by fools of a Took.

And then sensors to find it, and flight control surfaces to change directions.

@Yuuki I hate how extremely on the nose this company's name is

peter thiel is saruman

send tweet

@Yuuki Welcome back :)

joe has unveiled his plan to give 97% of americans access to affordable health insurance and you will be surprised what the Industry thinks

It's almost like you can't please everyone because some people are just bad, hmm 🤔

> REPORTER: Does it concern you that many people saw your tweet as racist?

> TRUMP: "It doesn't concern me because many people agree with me."

🤷‍♂️

Naturally we'll continue to pretend that this isn't blatant in its implications but he basically said it himself, come on

Anyway it's remarkable fortunate for the Democrats that the President is the single worst possible person for this position otherwise they'd have to actually reckon with the fact they're terrible

> I have to imagine there will be a point pretty soon where it will become unpalatable for many Democrats to do any legislative business with the president

Buddy Pelosi's response to the President jailing children was to urge him to work with them

But also yes this should entirely be the case

@TimStone I like racists, so I can be racist.

Remember when Hillary got crap for saying Trump's base was bad people? chuckles Pepperidge Farm remembers

Oh, I missed the tweet earlier in the thread where he accused Ihan Omar of "speaking about how wonderful Al Qaeda is" and claiming she "hates Jews."

@TimStone Pelosi's so concerned with not looking like the aggressor that it's becoming a serious problem. cough cough Chamberlain cough

> Just announced: @stevenmnuchin1 to brief here at the top of the hour on cryptocurrencies

This should be both dumb and hilarious

@Yuuki Yeah it's kind of absurd because I don't even know who the audience for that is at this point?

Exactly what group is giving her points for being nice?

@TimStone That said, should we really support politics that are the equivalent of barroom brawls?

I am pro Congressional Thunderdome tbh

Two Congresspersons enter, one Congressperson leaves. And then the other leaves later after the victory ceremony is done.

Congress would be infinitely better if you could tell someone to get bent. Heckling is a cornerstone of British parliament

@Unionhawk Got 'em all

That was pretty much what was expected

Since he's got plenty of years to spare there maybe we should just hand some out for free to his nazi friends

to the extent that it possibly can be, this chapter is closed

Oh wow even Rep Mike Turner is like "Yeah buddy that's racist"

How much money should I put on Trump being racist to get Epstein out of the news cycle?

I think he's just doing it because he's a racist tbh

Plus we're talking about how Epstein had a Saudi passport and a pile of diamonds, he went far too supervillianesque for that to be knocked out of the news cycle completely I think

I'm going to guess that Saudi Arabia does not extradite to the United States lol

just a guess

@TimStone But will the rest of the GOP follow suite, and if they do, will it just be all talk? (spoilers: probably yes)

So is Trump automatically the gop nominee for 2020, or could they actually choose another member instead?

They could but they won't.

I know it's completely unheard of, I think, but not sure if it's like what had to happen

Primaries still exist but it'd be the first time that a party doesn't choose the incumbent President, I think.

@Wipqozn 2020 Republican primary candidates

IIRC though, the President's party typically just doesn't hold a primary.

@Wipqozn They won't condemn him which is incredible to me because imagine being shown up by BoJo? smh

Hmm counterpoint though

lmao

a man called Richard Spencer is now the acting defense secretary

the Navy Secretary, not to be confused with the white nationalist

@Unionhawk Are you sure the Trump official isn't a white nationalist?

No, but I am sure that he is a different guy

That this is something that required clarification though to be absolutely sure

The news in general is absolutely wacked these days...like when racism is a way to stop the spotlight from being on something else and that's ok, well, this is a new age in politics.

Lack of sleep makes your brain eat itself

@TimStone Great Britain is quite pathetic these days. And the terrifying part is that this is still far better than the outright corruption, incompetence and evil that is the current US administration

The White House has opted to showcase checks notes Lockheed Martin for "Made in America Day"

Nothing makes me feel more American than going out and nabbing a locally produced THAAD system

Alcaida

> The Obama Administration built the Cages, not the Trump Administration! DEMOCRATS MUST GIVE US THE VOTES TO CHANGE BAD IMMIGRATION LAWS

The President has decided that they are, in fact, cages

@TimStone did Twitter just change, or am I going mad, or both?

I'm not sure, I use TweetDeck and mobile Twitter

The version I get right now seems to assume I'm blind and sitting a few meters from the screen with the font size for some parts

Sounds like something Twitter would do

> Police: Flushing drugs could create Alabama ‘meth-gators’

> A border agent planned to separate a Honduran family. One parent would go to Mexico, the other would keep the kids in the U.S. The family says the agent asked 3-year-old Sofi to make the choice: which parent would she pick

@TimStone These [censored by Code of Conduct and automatic flagging]ers

Yeah, there's no bottom :/

@TimStone Hmm now he's tweeting maga but I thought we already did that or whatever and now we've got to keep it

> ICE agents terrorized this New Jersey teenager throughout Sunday night. She knew not to open the door because of the “know your rights” posts on social media

> Lindsey Graham: “If you’re a Somali refugee wearing a MAGA hat, you’ll get invited to the White House”

Whatever point he thinks he's making there uhhh it is not it my dude

> The Justice Department says Kellyanne Conway "is absolutely immune from compelled congressional testimony in her capacity as a senior adviser to the President."

@TimStone yes, we all agree with him that 3 of those senators should go back to their corrupt crime filled countries which is *checks notes* the United States of America

@MadScientist what's that black next under the "you should leave" part?

@puzzlepiece87 in think the words you were looking for were "inhuman monsters"

@TimStone that last bit sounds like something you hear about happening in Nazi Germany minus the bashing the door down and forcing their way inside