This Is Fine

4:16 AM

lol the guy who murdered the Gambino mob boss repped QAnon in court

Tweeted by lib_crusher on March 18, 2019 at 8:38 PM

Wait what

@TimStone the hill is saying it's Trump Slogans

Going to war with the mob to own the libs

on the radio this morning they were suggesting that the murder was because the guy who got shot was dating the daughter of the mob boss and he didn't approve

New Zealand Prime Minister @jacindaardern has refused to use the Christchurch gunman's name in a speech to Parliament http://bit.ly/2HsS08P

Tweeted by SBSNews on March 19, 2019 at 2:09 AM

this has been one thing that disappointing to me with the media in that they these people exactly what they want by naming them and showing their face

one of the reasons why i watch Phillip DeFranco especially in these kind of things because he wont show or name the attacker

Several hurt in Dutch tram shooting https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20190319_01/

Tweeted by NHKWORLD_News on March 18, 2019 at 11:48 PM

Constitutional crisis as Speaker tells MPs he could block third Brexit vote

9:35 AM

►

Only linking it because of the person singing "we don't want a brexit" to the tune of "we're not gonna take it" at around minute 1

9:56 AM

@Kevin and just as i read "to the tune of "we're not gonna take it"" it played in my head

Buns Glazing

10:20 AM

Hue

People on my Twitter feed are sharing DSM5 excerpts for Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder and how well they apply to Trump

Buns Glazing

11:36 AM

Michael Wernick resigns as Privy Council Clerk

12:24 PM

@Memor-X my job's done then in't it?

1:49 PM

@Nzall The problem I see with this is that it further stigmatizes people with mental health issues, particularly those with the aforementioned disorders.

Two-acre "Beto 2020" crop circle emerges Texas http://hill.cm/HeY0slH

Tweeted by thehill on March 19, 2019 at 1:52 PM

Yeah, I think you might be on to something

@TimStone whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

NBC's Pete Williams just reported on @MSNBC that Rod Rosenstein is staying at the Justice Department "a little longer than he intitally said."

Tweeted by kylegriffin1 on March 19, 2019 at 1:45 PM

lol

I choose to believe that isn't a typo.

2:05 PM

Oh, I didn't even notice that

2:34 PM

Norsk Hydro, one of the world's largest aluminium producers, revealed today that it "became victim of an extensive cyber-attack" that crippled its operations and forced it to switch to manual operations in several of its smelting locations. https://www.zdnet.com/article/aluminium-producer-switches-to-manual-operations-after-extensive-cyber-attack/

Tweeted by campuscodi on March 19, 2019 at 12:17 PM

@TimStone Note: it's ransomware, not a targeted attack

oh I see the thinktank class has revealed obamacare 2

> Medicare for America is not really single payer. Private insurance is preserved. Most Americans would still have to pay premiums and out-of-pocket costs

cool so it's just literally still rationing healthcare by cost

nice

2:55 PM

@Altran At 5am this morning UTC somebody from Norway uploaded a signed copy of LockerGoga ransomware. It uses the same certificate me and @malwrhunterteam team identified several weeks ago, which the CA has now revoked.

Tweeted by GossiTheDog on March 19, 2019 at 2:44 PM in reply to GossiTheDog

A nightmare scenario but they're handling it pretty well, externally. Their website is redirected to a temporary azure host that just says "we've been hacked sorry we're working on it :( investor contact, press contact, facebook page" and they're working on restoring a backup now

gotta tell the investors that everything is under control

I like all the "DO NOT CONNECT TO THE NETWORK" signs lol

@Unionhawk yeah, I'm reading an extensive report on Twitter about the attack

user15026

@Nzall I hate when people armchair diagnose.

@Ash I'm talking about Kevin Beaumont, who's a pretty big security researcher and reporter

@Altran Gotta say Hydro's public facing response has been incredibly good - open, quick, transparent with customers (and public & employees), seniors on camera talking about issues. Wishing them a speedy recovery. I'm in this BBC News piece: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47624207

Tweeted by GossiTheDog on March 19, 2019 at 2:35 PM in reply to GossiTheDog

@Nzall Not what they replied to =p

ah, okay

Missed that

@Ash To be fair, there has already been an open letter of around 30 licensed psychologists who did just that in the name of public safety

user15026

3:03 PM

@Nzall that doesn't change my stance what so ever

3:34 PM

#BREAKING: Pennsylvania State Rep. Brian Ellis has resigned from his state House seat immediately. The Republican representative was accused of having sex with an incapacitated woman against her will. https://cbsloc.al/2W5OBQE

Tweeted by acnewsitics on March 18, 2019 at 11:37 PM

Ah, well

(also as a side note the person acknowledges that this is just rape and made the mistake of just using the language of the article)

I was gonna complain about the language...

@Unionhawk "Medicare for America" is a solid transitioning plan to universal coverage, that includes provisions for cost control as well. Good interview with one of its architects:

How to build a Medicare-for-all plan, explained by somebody who’s thought about it for 20 years

@Unionhawk it's not like it's impossible to have a solid healthcare foundation and have privatized insurance

(see also the netherlands)

> One of the primary reasons to move to a system in which employers can continue to provide coverage but if they don’t, you have automatic coverage through a Medicare-like plan, is it minimizes the disruption that occurs. I think it’s worth noting, too, that Medicare beneficiaries themselves are also worried about disruption. A big and successful attack on the Affordable Care Act by Republicans was that Medicare beneficiaries were going to have their coverage disrupted.

puzzlepiece87

@Kevin True though considering the starting point I don't blame @Unionhawk for not having time for incrementalism.

3:40 PM

This is true as well

Scott Walker considering comeback in Wisconsin: report http://hill.cm/0A2lGeI

Tweeted by thehill on March 19, 2019 at 3:40 PM

🤔

@puzzlepiece87 I think there is pretty wide agreement on the ultimate goals; but figuring out the exact path to get there has always been somewhat unclear; having a robust debate about it is absolutely worthwhile

(Although it doesn't necessarily have to take place within the context of the Democratic presidential primary)

@BradC great I can't wait to continue to have my $1500 deductible plan I love it

@Nzall In the interest of preventing stigmatization of mental health problems, diagnosis should be kept between a patient and their treatment provider. And these licensed psychologists should know that.

@Yuuki AFAIK there is an exception for this rule if not revealing the diagnosis could plausibly lead to negative effects for public health and safety

though I'm not 100% sure on that

user15026

3:51 PM

@Nzall Nope not the way you think

user15026

Like yes, but not in a like...public setting

Trump is definitely not their client and they shouldn't be throwing diagnoses for him.

user15026

Also, if they're not the treatment provider, then extra nope

This is one of the most bizzare election ad you have ever seen: Israel's Minister of Justice (!!) Ayelet Shaked plays a model, sprays herself with "Fascism" perfume and says: "Smells like democracy to me". Viktor Orban on steroids https://t.co/s8Y4Oziw75

Tweeted by BarakRavid on March 18, 2019 at 8:55 PM

Oh, I thought when someone said she sprayed herself with fascism they were being metaphorical but no

user15026

And the rule is if you think they're a risk to themself or others you deal with that in a way that ensures as much safety as possible and yelling on the internet is super not that at all.

3:52 PM

I hate this timeline so much

@BradC it's just, my problem is we already had a transitionary step in 2010, and now look at where we're at.

Mental health issues get a really bad rap and trying to diagnose an incredibly unpopular president based solely on public actions and reputation doesn't help things at all.

And it's these same people who architected that trying to just do the same thing again to justify their own jobs

user15026

@Yuuki this x100000000

user15026

It just makes it infinitely worse for people.

3:56 PM

Goldwater rule

The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics, which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements. It is named after former US Senator and 1964 presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.The issue arose in 1964 when Fact published the article "The Unconscious of a Conservative: A Special Issue on the Mind of Barry Goldwater...

wipes tear We're bringing back the classics folks

Bronx - LOOSE COW running on the Major Deegan Expressway near 161 Street. #NYPD on scene trying to trap it.

Tweeted by NYScanner on March 19, 2019 at 3:48 PM

It doesn't help either. So now you believe that Trump has narcissistic personality disorder. Now what?

The rule disallowing diagnosing

user15026

@Kevin I knew there was a thing for this!

user15026

Thank you for finding it

3:57 PM

I doubt it changed your opinion of him.

> Mattis returns to job he had prior to joining the Trump administration

…Sitting on the board of a fraudulent company?

@Kevin If you read that Wikipedia article, there's actually a section on Donald Trump where it says that a different organization does allow their members to do psychoanalysis of Donald Trump

Hmhm

Indeed it does

@Unionhawk All plans have some sort of transition/ramp-up, some faster, some slower, differing in the precise details

@Unionhawk "Employers could continue to offer private insurance, so long as it meets certain federal standards. Companies could also elect to send their workers to the public program and pay a contribution toward their employees’ premiums. Likewise, workers could voluntarily leave their job’s insurance for the new public plan."

The organization itself won't take a stance on Trump, but they allow their members to do so

4:00 PM

(from my Vox link above)

user15026

@Nzall That still doesn't mean randos on the damn internet should be

user15026

@Nzall it being "allowed" by this one organization doesn't make armchair diagnosis as a whole a good or right or eve remotely okay thing, it just means one organization made, what I think is a stupid decusion that is actively harmful to the rest of the mental health community

Also, the Goldwater Rule wikipedia article also links to a different Wiki article on the Duty to Warn: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

user15026

This. Does. Not. Make. It. Okay.

> who has reasonable grounds to believe that a client may be in imminent danger of harming himself or others to warn the possible victims

Irrelevant

user15026

4:04 PM

@Nzall " Although laws vary somewhat in different states, in general, the danger must be imminent and the breach of confidentiality should be made to someone who is in a position to reduce the risk of the danger.[4] People who would be appropriate recipients of such information would include the intended victim and law enforcement.:

user15026

Does not apply here.

user15026

That's not what they're doing, at all.

inb4! =p

user15026

grins

user15026

Seriously, please stop trying to pretend that this is okay, because it is SO harmful.

4:04 PM

Trump isn't their client, do I think he should be some psychiatrist's client? Proooobably

Really, everyone should see a psychiatrist because mental health is just as important as physical health.

user15026

and if not a psychiatrist directly, some sort of mental health professional.

yeah, you're right. Different but related: would you approve of a law stating any nominee for public office should be evaluated by a mental health professional before the election?

user15026

If we could normalize that, then so many people would get so much help.

Depends on what you mean by "evaluated".

user15026

4:07 PM

@Nzall What are we evaluating for? Can you guarantee impartiality? What sort of things are a "hard no"?

I am not okay with disqualifying individuals on a checklist of what disorders you can/can't have.

Compulsive lying?

user15026

Like I know people with disorders and things that if you heard the names of what they've got you'd be like "lock them up", but they're functional humans in society

Which was the 'complete lack of empathy to other people'?

user15026

You get waaaaay too close to like weird judgemental selection stuff

4:08 PM

Because that just enforces the whole "people with disorders are not as good as other people" thinking.

user15026

@Kevin Antisocial Personality Disorder fits close I think

@Kevin It's not important what disorders someone may or may not have. What's important is that they get treated for them.

On the other hand 'people who completely lack empathy should not be in charge of guiding our country' does not to me sound controversial

user15026

@Kevin If I had the spoons, I could argue this.

Save the spoons!

user15026

4:10 PM

I don't, though (10 hours sleep in 48 hours is doing a number on my braaaaaain)

Guuh, that is not good for spoonage

I was super happy to have aaaalllll(most all) the spoons again this weekend, yay productivity, yay cleaning up backlog

Because not having the spoons to clean causing you to have a messy house costing you spoons is not a recipe for good things ><

user15026

@Kevin Nope, it is not - I managed this weekend to do my dishes for hte first time in two weeks and I was SO PROUD of myself :P

The Supreme Court says the government can detain -- without a bond hearing -- immigrants with past criminal records, even if years have passed since they were released from criminal custody. https://cnn.it/2UQPRGY https://t.co/qzpingaFz7

Tweeted by CNN on March 19, 2019 at 3:10 PM

user15026

@BradC wtfffffff

@Ash Good job! :o

Dishes are so annoying but slightly less annoying then disposable plates

user15026

4:17 PM

@Kevin I ran out of spoons (literally) so I was like "guess we gotta do"

@Ash yup

This administration's (mis)treatment of undocumented immigrants is their canary in the coalmine. We are now witnessing the erosion of basic rights, including habeas corpus, in domestic courts, being justified by nativist bigotry against immigrants. http://www.shakesville.com/2019/03/supreme-court-rules-immigrants-can-be.html

Tweeted by Shakestweetz on March 19, 2019 at 4:11 PM

@BradC the thing is: this is their whole plan.

They'll tell you "oh I believe in universal coverage but", and you just have to apply the "everything before a but is bullshit" rule

They just want to do the bare minimum to relieve pressure for another ten years.

That thing you do when you want to do a thing, propose that we not do the thing yet.

@Unionhawk If the plan allows anyone to enroll (as this one does), and if the offered option is better than plans offered by private insurance (as this one seems to be, at the very least because it scales premiums and copays based on income), then wouldn't competition take care of the rest? Either private insurance stays competitive, or it doesn't, and everyone goes with the government option.

This is not that dissimilar to many other ideas; you don't outlaw private insurance or anything, you just offer better government coverage

This is why "is there room for private insurance in your plan" is not really the right question

Because "yes, if they can stay competitive, but in reality the can't, if they want to be profitable, so whatever" isn't a great interview answer, even though its probably the truth

(Not saying that you're asking that question, but several candidates have taken heat because of their answers to this question)

4:37 PM

If it is possible for a for profit company to continue to make money, then that means your "for all" option is not good enough. One of the problems with our current system is the two tier nature of it. Those who can afford it fly to the damn Cleveland clinic or whatever, while people who live in Cleveland can't even afford to sit in the waiting room.

All care, for all people, free at the point of service, accept nothing less.

Forgive me for being skeptical of a plan drafted by people who take insurance company money

a single health program makes the whole thing simpler and cheaper anyway

why would we want to build this whole infrastructure wherein people still have to consider plans and billing departments and such if your goal is universal coverage (because their actual goal is "we get to continue making money")

Mad Scientist

@BradC the big issue with having private and public insurers is that if the private ones can pick their clients, they'll end up with the young, healthy ones while the public ones have the expensive clients. So you need a way to avoid that

There's these things called laws...

5:25 PM

And a thing called love

5:48 PM

British leaders struggle to deliver Brexit after being tripped up by obscure parliamentary rule https://wapo.st/2TVM3qP

Tweeted by washingtonpost on March 19, 2019 at 5:39 PM

Okay I'm not sure it was actually that obscure though 🤔

Whom amongst us knew you couldn't just continue attempting to do the same thing until you got your way?

LIVE: Two of the world’s most outspoken leaders, Donald Trump and Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, hold a joint press conference at the White House http://pscp.tv/w/1djGXONjwgoKZ

Tweeted by business on March 19, 2019 at 5:55 PM

"outspoken"

@MadScientist I believe the word you're looking for is "regulations".

Full quote from Trump: "As I told President Bolsonaro, I also intend to designate Brazil as a major non-NATO ally. Or even possibly, if you start thinking about it, maybe a NATO ally. I have to talk to a lot of people but may be a NATO ally."

Tweeted by HayesBrown on March 19, 2019 at 6:02 PM in reply to HayesBrown

wat

6:03 PM

@TimStone I mean, Turkey is a NATO ally...

I would argue that makes more sense :P

@Nzall you literally cannot accurately diagnose someone without one on one interaction. Both the client and the mental health professional need to be honest in that setting. The licensed psychologists are going a disservice to their profession by using extremely lawyerly language to say that trump "has symptoms consistent with" or "seems to have" without actually going "i diagnose him with X" because if they did they would be in trouble with their licensing boards

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Thank you for articulating this much better than I could

@Nzall nope that is an entirely different thing and is about breaking confidentiality if someone is about to harm themselves or others, and the doctor can only reveal minimal details like "person said they were going to stab XYZ tomorrow" not "person has ABC disorder and..."

@GodEmperorDune Why is this? What makes all of those other observations useless for evaluating this sort of thing?

user15026

6:14 PM

@murgatroid99 Because there are a lot of assumptions you're making.

user15026

Like...public face does not always equal private face

@murgatroid99 at a very high level, the psychologist (or whoever is diagnosing) needs to be able to interview the person, so they can ask relevant questions and probe deeper into things

there is also a public persona vs private persona thing going on with all humans (and moreso with public figures), and diagnosing a public persona is not helpful

to make an analogy, it's like trying to diagnose performance issues with a piece of software by looking at its marketing materials

To make another analogy, it's like trying to understand the workings of a piece of software by observing its behavior

puzzlepiece87

@GodEmperorDune Oooh, nice analogy.

@murgatroid99 sure, you can make some guesses and maybe they are correct, maybe they are not, but that is nowhere near the accuracy level needed to make any sort of important decisions

6:24 PM

I don't think its impossible or unreasonable for people to speculate about Trump's possible pathologies; its not that hard to identify patterns. This "cannot state a formal diagnosis" thing, though, is about a code of ethics of a specific medical association, which is their business

user15026

@BradC I understand the desire to speculate, but I do think it causes real harm for people to do so, because in a lot of cases they're using it to basically excuse his behaviour

user15026

Oh, well, he has xyz, so that's why he's a monster

user15026

no, he's a monster who happens to have xyz

user15026

It undermines the harm he is intentionally doing

@BradC sure, but speculating about trump's pathologies does AOE damage to other people who actually have those diagnoses as now it's "oh you're like trump"

user15026

6:26 PM

@GodEmperorDune Also this.

@Ash yeah this cannot be overstated enough

@Ash I've seen people use it more in a "his behavior seems consistent with X, therefore its not likely to be effective for congress to try to engage him in Y" kind of thing

user15026

Like you can be "sociopathic" or "psychopathic" (afaik neither of these are actually diagnoses anymore, which is a whole other thing) and still be a "normal" functioning human

user15026

@BradC Lucky you, then, for that.

@Ash yeah i've seen more "he's an X, he's a terrible president, we need to make a law that people with X can't be president"

user15026

6:28 PM

@GodEmperorDune emphatic nod

which is EXACTLY the wrong conclusion to jump to

user15026

Or "he has x he should be locked up"

@Ash ugh, yeah

user15026

(I mean institutionalization/prison as a response to mental health is it's own disgustign thing)

...not to excuse his behavior at all, but as a way of adjusting our own expectations about what he might do in the future (for example, the never-appearing "Presidential Pivot" that we've thankfully mostly given up on)

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, I'd definitely agree to that

user15026

6:29 PM

@BradC You have a much more positive take on this than like....90% of the internet, if you think that that's actually how people would use any sort of diagnosis

you can identify behaviors without like

pulling out your copy of the DSM

user15026

Augh yes agreed

@Unionhawk I agree, better to focus on behavior than diagnosis

user15026

The DSM is NOT intended to be like a blind checklisting thing

So this is similar, in some ways, to a forum I occasion called "Raised by Narcissists". No, you can't formally diagnose someone else (and despite the name, the group does not attempt to do so), but yes, there are patterns of behavior that tons of children (many grown) recognize in their parents. And once these patterns are recognized, there are techniques you can use to better understand/handle/avoid them.

Here's a simple example: the aphorism "reasons are for reasonable people". In this context, once you recognize that your parent isn't engaging in a good faith discussion, it gives you permission to not engage at all. Don't give them reasons, they're going to argue with you no matter what.

6:41 PM

@BradC yeah i think the major difference here is that you are not actually attempting to diagnose the parents, you are going "here's the behavior i'm running into" and people with similar experiences are sharing strategies and such that worked for them

@GodEmperorDune But that is the same with Trump. Another example: once you learn about "gaslighting" (lying in an effort to get you to question your own memory and/or sanity), then you can recognize it when your own parent tries to convince you you never took out the trash when you know you did. And you can recognize it when Sean Spicer insists that Trumps inauguration crowd was the biggest in history

when we have pics clearly showing the opposite

One of the ways I hear this discussed a lot is in trying to convince the media to handle Trump differently. The old methods don't work, because he doesn't operate the same

I'd never attempt to diagnose Trump with NPD or anything, but noticing the patterns as a method for understanding his behaviors can be helpful

user15026

Right but the armchair people on Twitter....aren't using it that way

@BradC i don't think yelling at the media on twitter about how they are covering trump incorrectly is going to convince them of anything

user15026

@GodEmperorDune also this yes

@BradC applying terms to behaviors is different from diagnosing though

"trump is doing gaslighting" is very different from "trump has X disorder"

6:50 PM

@Ash Well, I can't answer for other people on Twitter. So... (insert another shrug gif). I do agree that mental illness (of all kinds) is stigmatized to an unhealthy degree; and that if it were less so, then perhaps more people would seek treatment.

@GodEmperorDune especially since like, the public editor position isn't a thing

@Unionhawk i mean if you really want to yell at media personalities on twitter, you do you just don't harm other people in the process when you fight in the replies

pretty sure media people ignore the replies from non blue checks anyway

@GodEmperorDune Actually, I think that the media has changed quite a bit in the way that it handles Trump and his admin. Has that been in response to random people on Twitter shouting at them? Probably not; but in response to a larger effort to educate them

@GodEmperorDune yelling at blue checks is legal because blue checks get advanced mentions tech

@Unionhawk ratios are fun until twitter hides them

7:02 PM

I can't wait to get permanently banned for posting something like "@EliLake can I offer you you a nice egg in this trying time"

This is a bit off topic, but I'm a bit curious at the easy dismissal of "yelling at people on Twitter". Hasn't the last few years shown that all kinds of grass roots advocacy (social media campaigns, call-your-senator campaigns, street protests that started on social media, etc) can be extremely effective? Isn't that a big reason that Dems took the House in 2018?

(The actual message and the tone and the target and the audience all matter, of course)

The real reason the Trump administration is constantly losing in court https://wapo.st/2TYCcAB

Tweeted by washingtonpost on March 19, 2019 at 4:15 PM

Duh, because they don't know what they're doing?

that's literally what the article says:

> “What they have consistently been doing is short-circuiting the process,” said Georgetown Law School’s William Buzbee, an expert on administrative law who has studied Trump’s record. In the regulatory cases, Buzbee said, “They don’t even come close” to explaining their actions, “making it very easy for the courts to reject them because they’re not doing their homework.”

SaintWacko

Yeah, they're not doing any checking ahead of time to make sure that they're actually allowed to do what they're doing

Trump admin: "We can do whatever we want and no one will stop us!"
Courts: "You can't do that."
Trump admin: surprised_pikachu.jpg

7:20 PM

@SaintWacko Yep, its almost as if Trump is (no diagnosis here) behaving as a desk-pounding authoritarian corporate CEO.

Or, perhaps even more accurately, as a mob boss

He doesn't understand why he can't just do what he wants. He admires, no, venerates autocratic dictators across the globe. He wants the kind of power they have, and is frustrated that he can't wield his like that.

yet

Which is why the complicity of the Right is so dangerous

they're willing to let him have what they want, because they think in the short term it aligns with their policy goals

and they think they can wrestle power back from him at an opportune time

I've got some news for you about their long term goals

@Unionhawk yep, perhaps their long-term goals, too.

But at least we can now see them for what they are. The "we are the party of small government and low deficits and moral values" will never work again, in our lifetime

(I can hope)

Man imprisoned for stalking a woman has conviction overturned after court rules his social media posts were protected speech: https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/court-online-free-speech-rights-trump-stalking-conviction-61787350

Tweeted by evanmcmurry on March 19, 2019 at 7:26 PM

7:37 PM

@TimStone Seems like a rather thorny case.

@BradC as the article also mentions that trump admin appointees were ignoring advice from career staff, which also could've solved a lot of this mess for them

According to sources who saw Kushner's plan: Jordan would give land to the Palestinian territories, and "in return, Jordan would get land from Saudi Arabia, and that country would get back two Red Sea islands it gave Egypt to administer in 1950." https://www.jpost.com//Middle-East/Kushners-peace-plan-includes-land-swaps-with-Saudi-Arabia-book-claims-583932

Tweeted by AmySpiro on March 19, 2019 at 5:31 PM

Everybody wins!

Narrator: …???

@TimStone Narrator: In fact, everybody lost

@TimStone i'm fine with "social media posts are speech" but i'm confused as to why the social media posts, rather than all the other stalkery things he was doing, are what convicted him

@TimStone What would Egypt gain?

7:45 PM

@TimStone almost like the guy who did terrible deals in the private sector was not great at doing deals in the public sector

@Nzall Part of Gaza?

@TimStone broke: two state solution woke: 4 state solution

(bespoke: 1 state solution (one free secular palestine), 0 state solution (:a:))

@Unionhawk bespoke: trump tower & casino in gaza

@GodEmperorDune It looks like the only relevant actions were social media after he was instructed not to contact her

> After more postings, the woman obtained a no-contact order in court that prohibited him from posting any information about her on social media. Yet several more posts followed, and Shackelford also emailed her friend, court documents state.

so they are saying the the no contact order in the first place was illegal?

or at least the parts of it that said he couldn't discuss her on social media?

7:49 PM

Yeah I'm really not sure how it's a speech issue when he was told to stop bothering someone and he was like "ah but what if I didn't?"

@GodEmperorDune Essentially, or at least that doing so wasn't a violation

Because it was protected speech

@TimStone Because they're not directed. It's not "stop bothering this person", it's "stop saying these kinds of things"

8:08 PM

Canada's military issues new policies to welcome transgender troops as Trump insists on ban cbc.ca/news/politics/military-transgender-caf-policy-1.4978669

@GodEmperorDune Right. In one sense, it is comforting that Trump's incompetence is saving us from his malevolence. In another sense, that's a profoundly scary thought

> New directives from the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) circulated internally today and obtained by CBC News give guidelines on medical and surgical supports, uniform and naming protocols, and accommodations for bathrooms, showers and other private areas.

International Plumbing Code agrees to add text to its 2021 release stating that single-occupant restrooms should be all-gender instead of gender-segregated https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/architects-and-designers-just-helped-win-a-major-victory-for-all-gender-public-restrooms

Tweeted by mcclure111 on March 19, 2019 at 7:57 PM

Cc @Ash

user15026

@Wipqozn goooood stuff

8:25 PM

@BradC Godwin's Law, but the right has always been bad at both recognizing and containing cults of personality (cough cough Operation Valkyrie).

I might be drawing an improper comparison here.

Liberals table a pre-election budget designed to ease Canadians' anxieties
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-morneau-budget-2019-1.5061476

> Finance Minister Bill Morneau tabled a pre-election budget today designed to calm Canadians worried about retiring with financial security, getting the skills they need to land new jobs, or being able to afford a first home.

@murgatroid99 Yeah, that's true. It still feels pretty gross though 😕

Incidentally, I don't think "well, the victim blocked the defendant on Twitter so technically the victim shouldn't be able to see anything the defendant said anyways" should be a valid defense.

8:42 PM

David Sirota had been working unofficially for Sanders while savaging the other Democratic candidates on Twitter, writes @isaacdovere. This, despite Sanders's pledge of civility toward other Democrats. http://on.theatln.tc/7Nf6ZzT

Tweeted by TheAtlantic on March 19, 2019 at 8:04 PM

What does "working unofficially" mean?

Like was there an under-the-table deal or something?

they describe it as an "audition", basically; doing his speechwriting without that having been publicly announced

> Since December, David Sirota has, on Twitter, on his own website, and in columns in The Guardian, been trashing most of Sanders’s Democratic opponents—all without disclosing his work with Sanders— and has been pushing back on critics by saying that he was criticizing the other Democrats as a journalist.

(emphasis mine)

> Faiz Shakir, Sanders’s campaign manager, confirmed in an interview on Tuesday afternoon that Sirota had been in an advisory role prior to his hiring on March 11.

Ah, I see.

You're either a campaign official, or you're a (purportedly neutral) journalist; you can't be both

> None of those comments can be found online anymore. On Monday night, after being contacted for a second time by The Atlantic with a list of specific questions about his undisclosed work for Sanders, Sirota did not respond to the email but deleted more than 20,000 tweets. He left fewer than 200 online.

8:47 PM

Atlantic headline: Bernie Sanders Just Hired His Twitter Attack Dog: David Sirota had been working unofficially for Sanders while savaging the other Democratic candidates on Twitter.

Deleting recently controversial tweets, I wonder who that sounds like...

Perhaps noted "what if we fought the Civil War today" expert Representative Steve King of Iowa.

@BradC you also, incidentally, cannot be a campaign official prior to a campaign existing

like unless they have but decided not to use examples from between february 19 and now

@Unionhawk I'm not sure that is the important distinction here. If he was doing speechwriting for Sanders' "investigative committee" or "listening tour" or "I'm still just thinking about it but you all know I'm going to officially announce" that doesn't look any better.

(all while trashing Sanders' primary opponents under the guise of a journalist)

whatever, oh no some guy pointed out factually correct things about democratic candidates and now he's working for one

this is our chance to push the bernie bros narrative again

roll my eyes

@Unionhawk no, he was already working for one.

8:59 PM

Idk, if pointing out voting records and shit is the work of an attack dog then,

This shit is exhausting already

Vermin Supreme 2020

I dunno, I don't like the implications of Vermin Supreme's belief that he can turn people gay.

@Unionhawk There is plenty of room to criticize other candidates, but this doesn't sound like level-headed and civil response to pushback on his reporting:

> When people have questioned his tactics, Sirota has called them “mentally incapacitated.” Responding in mid-January to those who criticized him online for preemptively railing against the record of O’Rourke, who had not yet entered the race but had been a huge source of concern for Sanders allies since talk of O’Rourke’s potential presidential run picked up last year,

> Sirota tweeted, “The screaming temper tantrums by Democratic Party operatives whenever reporters scrutinize a lawmaker’s voting record is something to behold. These people quite literally hate democracy.”

The fact that he was, even at that time, an operative for the (still forming) Sanders campaign is just the hypocritical icing on the cake

He was actually a Russian operative I see him in the payroll database

9:38 PM

@TimStone "The pain hurts because I dreamt about this woman and believed that she was my soul mate. How could God be so wrong???"

"Soon after, a minister at the church called Shackelford to ask him to stop contacting the woman" < that's why mate, God was telling you to stop

puzzlepiece87

10:12 PM

@Yuuki Again, I would love a tool that automatically deletes my social media posts older than 1 month.

@puzzlepiece87 Selenium

like been experimenting with something that deletes all facebook posts for those who want to delete facebook but can't because they have still wanted game data tied to it

If we want to end the opioid epidemic, we must work to address the root causes of abuse. That’s why @SenCoryGardner and I introduced legislation to limit opioid prescriptions for acute pain to 7 days. Because no one needs a month’s supply for a wisdom tooth extraction.

Tweeted by gillibrandny on March 15, 2019 at 10:06 PM

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user15026

10:45 PM

@Unionhawk But they're not just....fffs

user15026

fuck fuck fuck what asshats

11:10 PM

I guess it depends on how they define acute pain

It at least leaves the door open for pain management for people with chronic pain but it's a very tricky line to walk

I can’t understand why the President would, once again, disparage a man as exemplary as my friend John McCain: heroic, courageous, patriotic, honorable, self-effacing, self-sacrificing, empathetic, and driven by duty to family, country, and God.

Tweeted by MittRomney on March 19, 2019 at 10:49 PM

Mitt, buddy

We all can understand. It's because he's a jackass

@TimStone it just feels like they're just going "eh, wisdom tooth is about 7 days" when it's pretty complicated in general

Like you can't just throw everything into a 7 day box

@TimStone naaa, it's because he isn't a fan and never will be

President Trump: "I was never a fan of John McCain and I never will be." http://hill.cm/I4lp0lL https://t.co/azYErjsmLk

Tweeted by thehill on March 19, 2019 at 10:01 PM

@Unionhawk I mean yeah probably. We could stop giving them as a first resort for outpatient stuff though, I guess

Like it seems a weird place to start the pain management instead of like, figuring out what works for the person

That's not as snappy of a slogan for your presidential campaign though

"What works for you™", I will be entertaining Super PACs at this time

Also the Economist did a thing and it was a very bad thing