This Is Fine

12:01 AM

not sure where I'd be without the New York Post to read everyday https://nypost.com/2018/12/12/donald-trump-jr-my-dad-once-regifted-me-something-i-gave-him/

Tweeted by KFILE on December 12, 2018 at 11:58 PM

It's literally the year after and Trump tries to challenge Jr until he's like "I was the one who got it for you" and the President is definitely Old

Unionhawk

@TimStone apparently the item in question was a monogrammed shirt

Which, I mean

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone this is literally whom among us tho

@Unionhawk ok that is weird

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune same initials though so it works

Extremely cool guy move imo

Tim Stone

12:17 AM

@Unionhawk lol, there's no way they're the same size

Unionhawk

@TimStone no

Tim Stone

.@FLOTUS Melania will be interviewed by @SeanHannity tonight on @FoxNews at 9:00pmE!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on December 12, 2018 at 11:50 PM

sets TV on fire

GodEmperorDune

12:50 AM

@Unionhawk sure, except who sees a shirt with a monogram on it and goes "yes i must've bought this for someone else"

GodEmperorDune

1:03 AM

In which the governor of Kentucky, Matt Bevin, goes on a rant against the @courierjournal for partnering with @ProPublica on an investigative project. https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1073012615176175616

Tweeted by chrisgeidner on December 13, 2018 at 12:33 AM

Whew dat thread

Tim Stone

lol that sociopath

Unionhawk

1:34 AM

I like that he linked daily caller to support his claim that propublica is a bunch of commies

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk who runs daily caller again?

Unionhawk

2:21 AM

@GodEmperorDune caller is Tucker, wire is shapiro

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk thanks

Unionhawk

Mail is idk the Murdoch's or whoever

Senate Bill To End U.S. Role In Yemen War Rejected By House Raytheon Executives https://trib.al/JZPsQxu

Tweeted by TheOnion on December 13, 2018 at 12:52 AM

Tim Stone

I got mail confused with mirror and it reminded me of Piers Morgan saying he should be Chief of Staff

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk where is the lie tho

Unionhawk

That's why I determined it ok to post

because it has a correct analysis

Tim Stone

2:27 AM

The Lockheed Martin caucus expressed its regret that their voice, also in favour of not ending the war, was not heard

Tim Stone

3:50 AM

In which Roy Moore’s lawyers, seeking to correct an error in another document, misspell their client’s name. https://twitter.com/big_cases/status/1073056353353195520

Tweeted by nycsouthpaw on December 13, 2018 at 3:29 AM

lmao, Sacha's name is also wrong, amazing

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone veinssssssssssssssss

Tim Stone

4:11 AM

Speaking of

I’ve now heard from two different sources that @newtgingrich (who was at the White House today) is currently topping the list for the next @realDonaldTrump administration White House Chief of Staff.

Tweeted by AndrewFeinberg on December 13, 2018 at 1:43 AM

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune oh please that's scapegoating the fact that their employees could inject code into production without approval

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X separation of duties and automated systems block that kind of stuff

Memor-X

if an employee can't say why they made a certain change then it would rejected, the employee complied with the law anyway even though the back door isn't committed to release

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X i imagine they would hide it in a real change

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune well i'm just going by my own work and that doesn't work

we have it that all check ins must have a TFS task or provide an override reason. if it's not approved we are told to roll it back

every month there is a meeting to review what's been checked in to be promoted to pre-prod environments and another every quarter for production release

sure, we're not working on encrypted messaging but it's a system with lots of eyes and little way for people to sneak stuff in

GodEmperorDune

4:22 AM

i think that depends on the size of the codebase, a monthly meeting to review commits where i work would take longer than a month to go through

there is a LOT of code

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune well commits are reviewed by the testers, the monthly/quarterly meets are more just "what tasks are with these change-sets and were they approved"

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X yeah we have mandatory peer reviews and automated code scanning and whatnot

Tim Stone

A planned stretch of new wall in South Texas may be the first to be built under the Trump administration. It’s likely to be opposed by landowners, a wildlife refuge — and SpaceX. https://nyti.ms/2RUnzKh

Tweeted by nytimes on December 13, 2018 at 4:26 AM

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone elon_smoking_weed_face.jpg

Tim Stone

Sure, why not, drag Elon into this it definitely needed to be more dumb

A champion finch with a good pedigree and a strong chirping record can sell for as much as $10,000. And that has made finch smuggling a big business. https://nyti.ms/2RTEhJV

Tweeted by NYTMetro on December 12, 2018 at 10:58 PM

I understand that sentence uses words that make sense but I'm not sold 🤔

GodEmperorDune

5:03 AM

@TimStone how about a finch for $9,999.99?

GodEmperorDune

5:24 AM

Sean Hannity deleting hundreds of tweets. I’m starting to get that old rats/sinking ship feeling again.

Tweeted by Green_Footballs on December 13, 2018 at 2:48 AM

He’s running and/or going to be chief of staff

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune and yet i bet you someone, somewhere, has an archive of everything. that or Wayback Machine

it's just suppressing these people think that deleting tweets/facebook posts/etc means that no one will see them when generally it's the opposite. by deleting it someone is going to get the archive of it and even more people are going to see it

SaintWacko

Yeah, someone's going to run something that will pick out of the archive all the deleted tweets and publish them

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X yepppppp

GodEmperorDune

7:20 AM

White man played NWA's classic hit "F*ck the Police" at an officer who was giving a black man a ticket and the cop got big mad and also wrote him a ticket. The man fought that ticket and won the case: https://trib.al/pCsFuru https://t.co/QEz3RjZoaD

Tweeted by TheRoot on December 12, 2018 at 11:00 PM

direct action works, yall

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune yeh but would it have been the same outcome if it was a black person playing that song? would it have even been a ticket or "that song is a threat to my life, lethal action authorized"

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X of course it would've been a worse outcome for the black person

this was a white ally using their privilege

Wipqozn

11:34 AM

CBC.ca: China confirms detention of 2 Canadians.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/china-confirms-detention-of-2-canadians-1.4944035

RISING WORLD TENSIONS WOOOOO

Memor-X

@Wipqozn totally not related to that huawei exec being arrested, just pure coincidence

Unionhawk

1:58 PM

ONLY ON 4: Workers at the south #Buffalo #Tesla plant are pushing to unionize. Watch News 4 #WakeUp! for more.

Tweeted by news4buffalo on December 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM

Tim Stone

2:21 PM

I often stated, “One way or the other, Mexico is going to pay for the Wall.” This has never changed. Our new deal with Mexico (and Canada), the USMCA, is so much better than the old, very costly & anti-USA NAFTA deal, that just by the money we save, MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on December 13, 2018 at 12:38 PM

Just incredible how brokenly his brain works

Unionhawk

We Have To Make Sure the “Green New Deal” Doesn’t Become Green Capitalism: http://inthesetimes.com/article/21632/green-new-deal-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-climate-cooperation-jackson-capital

Tweeted by inthesetimesmag on December 12, 2018 at 8:13 PM

Kevin

2:44 PM

/bestoflegaladvice/ has a trump administration death pool

puzzlepiece87

3:44 PM

@Memor-X I would still have something auto-delete everything I post on the internet after month if I could. At least make researchers do the work.

@GodEmperorDune Direct action does work but I wouldn't call zero consequences for the officer working.

And today in me feeling personally inadequate, a woman ran 6 marathons while pregnant - Science is clear, exercise during pregnancy is good (bonus points for multiple nods towards how the rest of us need to severely curtail our judgment and demands on pregnant women)

SaintWacko

@Kevin Heh, that's been going on pretty much since the beginning

puzzlepiece87

3:59 PM

@Yuuki ^ our series on personal inadequacy continues

Yuuki

@puzzlepiece87 I suppose in the context of history, that makes a lot of sense. If pregnancy made women completely helpless, we never would've made it out of the Pleistocene.

puzzlepiece87

@Yuuki Agreed

Yuuki

> best friend died
> uplifting news

🤔

Unionhawk

> $2,500

Yuuki

/r/UpliftingNews is one of those subreddits where it's both heartwarming and deeply dystopian.

puzzlepiece87

4:07 PM

> The Atlantic: America Needs to Restore Dignity of Work by Marco Rubio

Yuuki

This comment puts it best, I think:

> I call it perseverance porn. Isn't it really great when people have to go to great lengths and sacrifice a lot to overcome a single obstacle in life that shouldn't even still be an obstacle?
>
> "Man with no legs scrapes 50 miles a day back and forth to a pond to gather clean pondwater for his sick immobile wife after manufacturing compaies poisoned all groundwater in his town and then left, leaving them unemployed and without healthcare."

puzzlepiece87

I don't want The Atlantic to become Jacobin or anything but how about you just not invite Marco Rubio to write about something he doesn't care or know anything about?

Can't we get more Benjamin Wittes? He writes well.

Unionhawk

maybe The Atlantic will instead become The Weekly Standard

Yuuki

> ~~America~~ Marco Rubio Needs To Restore Dignity ~~of Work~~

FTFY

puzzlepiece87

@Yuuki Commit merged to master

Yuuki

4:11 PM

Really, it's probably just a couple hundred words too many about how the common laborer needs to be thankful for their existence at the behest of the Great And Glorious Job Creator and heed their every word.

Unionhawk

I also don't want the atlantic to become jacobin but that's because I can only handle a certain quantity of Dumb Ostensibly Left Takes

at least "by Marco Rubio" can just be dismissed on its face

my man lost a primary to donald trump lol

Yuuki

@Unionhawk He also lost a primary to Ted Cruz Totally Human President For Humans.

puzzlepiece87

4:34 PM

Much better story from The Atlantic: a writer shadowed a licensed safecracker for 6 months. It takes awhile to get going but gets pretty good after about halfway.

> The house was gone, consumed by the November 2018 Woolsey Fire. I met Charlie Santore, a licensed safecracker, flanked by two Ventura County sheriff’s deputies. They had been patrolling the neighborhood in the wake of the still-active wildfire, and Santore’s car, so overloaded with safecracking equipment that its trunk nearly scrapes the ground, was, from a law-enforcement point of view, not reassuring.

While the deputies confirmed his technician’s license, Santore asked one of them to act like he was under arrest. “Fight the power!” Santore joked. As he laughed, I took a picture. Even t…

> In 2017, Santore was called to a house near the 405 freeway that was being renovated by a married couple. The safe had been abandoned by its previous owner, and the couple had been living with it for several years until they finally hired someone to crack it open. Why not? According to Santore, it was the craziest thing he’d ever seen, filled with Bulgari necklaces and Cartier jewels, easily six figures’ worth.

> Santore was called out to the house of a client suffering from dementia. At one point, the son stepped outside to take a phone call. The owner, having forgotten that he hired a safecracker, stepped around the corner to see us squatting next to each other in the closet, fiddling with his safe. Startled, the man said an awkward hello; after we reminded him who we were, he reintroduced himself. In another scenario, I realized, that moment could have gone very badly.

> The 34-year-old Wayne Winton from Tri-County Locksmith once saw an old safe being used as a side table at a Colorado newspaper office. Nobody knew what was inside. Winton offered to crack it—and when the door swung open, they found unpublished photos of the serial killer Ted Bundy.

Yuuki

@puzzlepiece87 Well, that's gotta suck for next year's taxes.

puzzlepiece87

@Yuuki Too bad a story like that probably goes in some generic category like Income - Other

Bring back Income - Treasure Chests imo

Ronan

But have you not technically owned it for many years and so don't have to declare it until you sell it?

Yuuki

I could see it being considered as part of the purchase of the house.

puzzlepiece87

@Ronan Probably! In the US, do you have to pay taxes if your house appreciates and you sell it and move somewhere else? And they probably have different taxes for primary residence vs house flipping.

Like, I assume you already paid taxes when you bought it or something.

Yuuki

4:48 PM

I don't remember the tax obligations very well, but the big issue with being gifted expensive items is that if you're over the gift tax threshold, you have to pay taxes on the value of the item.

And for expensive items, you'd probably have to sell the item to be able to pay the taxes, depending on your income.

Which is why if you really want to super-generous to your friends, you just gift them money rather than a really nice car. Because they can just take a portion of the money to pay for taxes whereas they'd probably have to sell the car at a loss since vehicles depreciate as soon as they're off the lot.

Or at least I think that's how it works.

puzzlepiece87

I think you are right but am no expert

Unionhawk

5:03 PM

Just wanted to casually let you all know that right now a movement in France is being appropriated to advance a pro-oil, anti-climate change, anti-immigration, Nationalist movement - en masse - across Canada. And they are set to demonstrate across the country on Saturday.

Tweeted by AylanX on December 13, 2018 at 2:29 PM

Tim Stone

5:21 PM

@Unionhawk Bingo!

puzzlepiece87

@Unionhawk With any luck this will be one of those "a dozen people showed up" affairs.

Unionhawk

@TimStone "just say right wing this is taking forever"

Tim Stone

Dousing myself in oil and setting myself on fire before I can get a tax rebate from carbon tax income to own the libs

GodEmperorDune

@puzzlepiece87 interesting piece

Wipqozn

5:40 PM

@Unionhawk holy snap that excerpt

35k members, gross uuggggh

Unionhawk

preempting pedantry on "anti-climate change" btw

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk Honestly "anti-" looks really weird on two word phrases

Like it sounds good, but in text it looks kind of weird

like anti-bear unions looks like a union for people against bears, instead of a group opposed to bears forming unions (which they have every right to do, gosh darn it)

Unionhawk

anti-climate change is ambiguous, obviously here meaning "against the concept as a thing that is happening", but could also mean "wants to continue to survive on this planet"

user15026

@Unionhawk greaaaaaat

user15026

I mean...I guess identifying bigots and Nazi types is easier when they're all in safety vests.

Unionhawk

5:47 PM

yeah I think future marshals are going to have to use orange for a while lol

Tim Stone

NEWS: the House just passed via unanimous consent the final anti-sexual harassment /workplace rights bill. After passing the original version earlier this year, this is a momentous day.

Tweeted by AshLeeStrong on December 13, 2018 at 5:38 PM

To be clear, only for Congress

But Ryan spox so

Anyway, goes to Trump to sign now

Outgoing Sen. Claire McCaskill says she's not a fan of farewell speeches, "but I want to respect the tradition—especially since I've witnessed so many Senate traditions crumble."

Tweeted by evanmcmurry on December 13, 2018 at 5:50 PM

lol, shade

SaintWacko

@TimStone That's ironic

Unionhawk

xd

Tim Stone

Doesn't apply to him though so he'll probably be fine with it, at least

I mean there's little to say he's not making it up for the sake of the act despite claiming otherwise, but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Love for my president to crush up adderall and snort it and then invite teenage pageant contestants to his suite, apparently

> He was told his father walked out in 1961. Then he started digging up the basement.

Well alright then

Tim Stone

6:12 PM

Not @TheOnion! Actual memo just released from the Dept. of Homeland Security. Some poor schmuck was forced to type this drivel. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work

Tweeted by stevesilberman on December 13, 2018 at 3:46 PM

lol

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone poor intern

SaintWacko

That... looks like the result of one of those addons that replaces words with other words

The syntax is wrong

user15026

Yeah, the language is wonky

user15026

Oh, no, it's there.

Tim Stone

I really can't imagine anyone cares about this besides Trump himself so this is written solely for him except he also doesn't read

SaintWacko

6:20 PM

> On Sunday when a violent mob of 1,000 people stormed our Southern border

What the fuck

That "article" is pure propaganda

Unionhawk

violent mob of 1k, heh, you mean the united states army

Tim Stone

With regard to the Butina plea it looks like Erickson is preeeetty screwed. Paul though, not Erick, although also Erick on account of being Erick son of Erick

Trump's also out here trying to say he didn't pay AMI despite Cohen having it on tape, admitting to it, and AMI reaching an agreement on the issue with prosecutors

Yuuki

@SaintWacko how was babby formed

SaintWacko

@Yuuki How build wall

Yuuki

@TimStone uhhh pretty sure his mother and/or his stepfather killed his dad

Tim Stone

6:28 PM

Or it was the house, which is haunted. But no they definitely did it

Yuuki

Probably "and".

Or at least the mother was involved.

I mean, dude was buried in his own house.

Tim Stone

Sen @JimInhofe is handing out these paper card statements when asked by reporters about this story about buying defense stocks after pushing for military spending (he spoke to us, as well): https://www.thedailybeast.com/sen-james-inhofe-bought-defense-stock-days-after-pushing-for-record-pentagon-spendingthen-dumped-it-when-asked-about-it

Tweeted by frankthorp on December 13, 2018 at 6:19 PM

lol just send out a press release my dude wtf are you spending money printing cards for?

Narrator: It would turn out he also had investments in the card stock company

Unionhawk

my "not involved in insider trading" shirt is causing a lot of questions already answered by the shirt

Yuuki

> to ~~reverse the trade~~ short-sell

puzzlepiece87

@Wipqozn It's Facebook and right-wing though so with any luck it's a bunch of fake accounts.

Tim Stone

8:30 PM

In defiance of @POTUS, the @GOP-controlled Senate approves a resolution calling for an end to US military involvement in the Saudi-led response to the war in #Yemen.

Tweeted by W7VOA on December 13, 2018 at 8:18 PM

While it seems unlikely the House will change course, it could come up again next session. Not looking great for MBS to just shrug his way through things, at any rate

Who could have predicted Jared's advice wouldn't help?

Dozens of bomb threats being reported at news outlets, government buildings, banks, libraries, schools and other businesses across the US, various local media and police depts. report.

Tweeted by NBCNews on December 13, 2018 at 7:29 PM

Kentucky Supreme Court strikes down pension law that prompted massive teacher walkouts http://hill.cm/Vs8ZY6O

Tweeted by thehill on December 13, 2018 at 8:43 PM

Unionhawk

8:45 PM

lol

Tim Stone

> Republican legislators pushed for the bill by turning an 11-page sewer bill into the 291-page pension bill, arguing that the readings as a sewer bill counted for the required three

Unionhawk

this is bc they remembered in november

Tim Stone

I didn't realise that part of it, lol, wtf

Unionhawk

Yeah, it was a whole thing

I didn't realize it was they decided an amended version counted as previously read (which is obviously false)

but there were "this is a shitty bill lol" jokes going around the ky120 group

Tim Stone

It's really depressing all these evil plans are also so incredibly dumb, like just half-assing your screwing over of people seems likely enough to work you don't have to put real effort into it

puzzlepiece87

8:50 PM

@TimStone Agreed, that has been one of the most depressing points of eternal 2016 for me

Unionhawk

It's hard to keep up with matt bevin's shit

the medicaid work requirement stuff was just awful

And I think is on hold?

who fucking knows

the commonwealth sure as shit doesn't

I believe that's held in court at the moment

hopefully it holds long enough for DSA Cincy to run a candidate for governor in 2019 (yes I think that's a stupid idea too)

puzzlepiece87

9:16 PM

@Unionhawk Is DSA Cincy involved in Kentucky because KY doesn't have any cities big enough to form a chapter?

Unionhawk

We are involved in KY because Newport and Covington exist

Louisville, Lexington, and Bowling Green have chapters or organizing committees

puzzlepiece87

Ah got it, Cincinnati is right on the border

Unionhawk

Yep

puzzlepiece87

Searching "newport kentucky" showed me the right map snippet to understand the situation instantly

Unionhawk

newport is an interesting town

it's an interesting town to canvass in because you can literally answer "how would we pay for it" by pointing across the river at the Great American Tower

meanwhile, S.J.Res.54 has passed in the senate

#BREAKING: The Senate passed a bipartisan resolution directing the President to end U.S. military support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen – a strong rebuke to Saudi Arabia and the Trump administration.

Tweeted by NPR on December 13, 2018 at 8:24 PM

I don't have a total or a list of notables, the last meaningful total was the motion to proceed to consideration of the measure in the senate passed 60-39

which is not to be confused with cloture from what I'm reading, it looked like that one just required a simple majority

lol:

> S.Amdt.4080 Amendment SA 4080 proposed by Senator Young. (consideration: CR S7488-7503; text: CR S7488) To clarify that this resolution prohibits United States Armed Forces from refueling non-United States aircraft conducting missions as part of the ongoing civil war in Yemen.

Tim Stone

9:54 PM

“Federal prosecutors have asked Rick Gates about the fund’s spending and its donors, according to people familiar with the matter. Gates has met with prosecutors from the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office and the special counsel’s office.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455

Tweeted by kaitlancollins on December 13, 2018 at 9:52 PM

lol imagine things coming full circle and the underwhelming size of the crowd somehow becoming a fact of the court

missed this earlier: Dana Rohrabacher launching a consulting firm with aide Paul Behrends https://www.wsj.com/articles/defeated-republican-rep-rohrabacher-considers-starting-consulting-firm-11544619601 yes, the Paul Behrends who was fired from HFAC last year after revelations of murky Russia stuff https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/russian-anti-sanctions-campaign-turned-to-california-congressman/534102/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/top-rohrabacher-aide-fired-after-russia-revelations/534288/

Tweeted by RosieGray on December 13, 2018 at 9:53 PM

Of course

puzzlepiece87

@TimStone Ah, the new IRA is staffed in the US apparently. Hopefully we get the same number of indictments.

Tim Stone

SCOOP from @svdate: Trump is considering Kushner for chief of staff. Kushner met with Trump Wednesday about the job http://bit.ly/2PCarHN

Tweeted by aterkel on December 13, 2018 at 10:01 PM

Ahahahahahahahaha

puzzlepiece87

10:13 PM

@TimStone Yes please Jared, do more crimes and find your way to jail.

Unionhawk

10:35 PM

'Your sacrifices don't go unnoticed,' First lady Melania Trump tells returning troops and their families during a visit to Joint Base Langley-Eustis https://t.co/afeTu43OHv

Tweeted by Reuters on December 13, 2018 at 10:20 PM

video unrelated

and extremely good

Unionhawk

11:02 PM

The Trump gov't put out a call, asking legal immigrants to sponsor some of the 1,000's of kids in cages. Desperate to help, 170 kind ppl stepped up, hoping to finally free the kid from captivity. Turns out, it was a sting operation. Then came the arrests. https://www.wonkette.com/totally-non-evil-ice-arrests-170-immigrants-trying-to-free-kids-from-baby-jails

Tweeted by HeWhoLovesWords on December 12, 2018 at 4:47 PM

Arperum

11:28 PM

@Unionhawk what the actual fuck?

SaintWacko

11:48 PM

@Unionhawk Holy shit

Frank

@Unionhawk Don't they realize that all this does is make them look evil? And ensures that people won't help the government in the future?

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