This Is Fine

Memor-X

12:00 AM

@GodEmperorDune maybe, i always thought the "reduced accidents" was between cars

@Unionhawk when i saw the "rumors of trump dick pics" i was actually think it was related to that

Tim Stone

Ex-employee says data firm met with Lewandowski before Trump campaign launched http://hill.cm/YZXLem8

Tweeted by thehill on March 20, 2018 at 12:01 AM

I mean why not? But still, if there's any chance Lewandowski can go to hell we must take it 🤔

Unionhawk

That is a good point though, apparently only truefactsstated saw this MSNBC bit, and he's paraphrasing, which means it definitely didn't happen

Tim Stone

Oh wait really? I wasn't paying attention :|

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk right, thats why i left it as just rumors

everyone i see responding is responding to the truefacts account

Unionhawk

Yeah it didn't happen then

FALSE ALARM

GodEmperorDune

12:11 AM

in things that definitely happened exactly as described in a twete

Stay tuned. In a few hours you’ll get access to evidence that shows that the Megaupload raid was a White House operation spearheaded by Joe Biden with approval from @BarackObama. Yesterday we asked the High Court to let us question Obama while he’s in the New Zealand jurisdiction

Tweeted by KimDotcom on March 19, 2018 at 11:16 PM

maybe kimdotcom is trying to get a trump admin cabinet post

Tim Stone

Shouldn't have hosted illegal copies of Liquid Swords smh

The important thing is that we've all made peace with the fact that if it's true even in the dumbest, most technical of senses that Hannity will be on air tomorrow talking about how copyright enforcement is, in fact, quite bad

quartata

@GodEmperorDune replies are pure cancer, be warned

@TimStone hahayes

GodEmperorDune

@quartata its kimdotcom

murgatroid99

12:29 AM

@GodEmperorDune That's the future of self-driving cars. If we were already there yet, we wouldn't need backup human drivers.

Plus, you can't look at one accident in X miles driven and say that that shows that they don't actually reduce accidents

quartata

not his point, I think. he means it's a perception issue

no matter how safe they are there is a natural stigma around automated anything, and accidents during the testing phase look bad

even if it's somewhat inevitable

GodEmperorDune

the point i was going for was that there are other companies also testing self driving cars that have not killed anyone

kinda a tautology because this was the first

murgatroid99

There are people who have never gotten into an accident. That doesn't mean that every human driver who has been in an accident is a bad driver

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 but uber has also not gotten nearly as much mileage as the other companies

and those other companies didn't kill people early on in their programs

murgatroid99

There still isn't enough data to draw any conclusions based simply on the fact that they were in a single accident

quartata

12:34 AM

@murgatroid99 you're bringing logic into it

GodEmperorDune

fair

quartata

this isn't about logic, this is about ethos. appearance.

GodEmperorDune

and i think NTSB will do a thorough analysis as they do with most accidents

murgatroid99

@quartata Sure, yes, it looks bad. Every single time a self-driving car is involved in a fatal accident, it will look bad. And if every time we spend our time wringing our hands about how it will look bad even though we know it's irrational, it amplifies a signal that is harmful to the overall advancement of automobile safety.

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 i am not wringing my hands, this confirms a pre existing narrative that uber doesn't take safety seriously

murgatroid99

12:39 AM

@GodEmperorDune Depending on the results of the investigation

And I'm sorry, I didn't mean to criticize you directly. Some of the responses to the tweet that was posted earlier were more strongly against self-driving cars, and I was partially reacting to that

People are going to inflate the importance of every individual self-driving car accident because they all make the news, without understanding how it compares with accidents involving human drivers because those are so common that they're normal

Tim Stone

Fascinating report on Blackwater founder Erik Prince's alleged illegal arms business. Trump's FBI Director Chris Wray, then a private attorney, investigated Prince's firm and notified the Obama Administration about possible illegal dealings in 2016. https://theintercept.com/2018/03/19/erik-prince-frontier-services-group-chris-wray-fbi/

Tweeted by UrbanAchievr on March 20, 2018 at 12:44 AM

murgatroid99

And that's the whole problem: that they're so common. And I'm afraid that the way people see this will undermine one of the best solutions we have to solve that problem

Tim Stone

Who among us could have suspected the Erik Prince of illegal arm dea...Ah, yes

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 to be clear, i am not against self driving cars by other companies. i am extremely skeptical of all things uber does

assuming the price is right, i'd love to get a waymo

murgatroid99

12:54 AM

My expectation is that in the self-driving future, we won't own cars. It would be a ride-hailing type of thing, except that it's cheaper because there's no labor involved in the ride itself

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune Sounds like the waymo reliable option (I blame @Yuuki)

murgatroid99

It's just so much more efficient if the car can just drive itself to the next ride instead of sitting in a parking lot all day

GodEmperorDune

i'd be fine with a sub to waymo instead (or it being a public transit thing)

Tim Stone

Seems like this has a high chance of making rural America suckier though, hmm 🤔

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone make it a federally funded public utility

Tim Stone

1:07 AM

I was thinking more from the perspective that waiting an hour for a car isn't really appealing

Like when nothing is close the last person's stop won't be either

And I'm not sure what the solution is there

GodEmperorDune

dedicated cars for people in rural areas

oh wait

Tim Stone

🤷🏼‍♂️

Tim Stone

1:31 AM

@GodEmperorDune btw the NYT story says he is leaving, but not until August, and is trying to play it down in the meantime

Tim Stone

2:26 AM

My god (cw: screen cap of a double nothing good)

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone caption is worthy of a cw as well

Tim Stone

…right, sorry about that. My eyes kind of glazed over after seeing the image

I swapped it for a different tweet, same screen cap >_>

???

Tweeted by SamAdlerBell on March 20, 2018 at 2:40 AM in reply to SamAdlerBell

Haaaaaaatch Act

But also wtf?

GodEmperorDune

2:43 AM

weird twete for the south korean embassy

Unionhawk

???

Memor-X

3:19 AM

@GodEmperorDune this wouldn't be how they are going to have military drills with the US on April 1st

www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20180320_16

Kim Jong Un: *rocks up to border with full military* we'll show them real military drills......where is everyone?

Tim Stone

4:10 AM

We have a Very Online Boy and for once it's not the President or anyone related to him

But I regret to inform you that it is Jordan Peterson

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone i thought he was kicked off the internet after being owned so many times

Tim Stone

The way he's threading his tweets it looks like he's yelling at himself or something idk so maybe

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone but maybe frozen is a secret message to the marshal of the supreme court to deliver the sealed indictments

Tim Stone

brain explodes

Professor who gave Facebook data to Trump campaign data firm offers to testify before Congress http://hill.cm/4RXT0YW

Tweeted by thehill on March 20, 2018 at 4:16 AM

Okay but only if he does so while petting a fluffy white cat

GodEmperorDune

too much too fast, is the professor the original whistleblower or was that a diff person?

quartata

4:22 AM

bonds_villain.exe has stopped working

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 an interesting take on the uber accident

The Uber self-driving car death is not a big deal because it's a self-driving car and they're actually safer. It's a big deal because it's not actually clear if they companies can be held liable for the death.

Tweeted by EmilyGorcenski on March 20, 2018 at 4:15 AM

Memor-X

@quartata xcopy austin_powers_villain.exe bonds_villain.exe

fixed

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune I don't see how this is different from other products that can kill people if done incorrectly.

I mean, car companies are already held accountable for faulty design or manufacturing that results in fatalities

I think it's complicated somewhat by the presence of the backup driver, and the question of how much responsibility they are supposed to have, but with a purely self-driving car, it just seems obvious to me that if the car is found to be at fault in an accident, the company should be held liable, just as if a faulty physical design caused a similar failure.

And if a company is avoiding that kind of liability, it seems like a more general problem of companies wielding financial or political power to avoid liability, and not something specific to self-driving cars

GodEmperorDune

5:03 AM

all the responses i thought of were already covered by you so i am persuaded

shout out to my congresswoman attempting to sock puppet her own video but forgot to log out of her main.

Tweeted by truebe on March 20, 2018 at 3:03 AM

fredley

10:45 AM

BREAKING: Facebook WAS inside Cambridge Analytica's office but have now "stood down" following dramatic intervention by UK Information Commissioner's Office..

Tweeted by carolecadwalla on March 19, 2018 at 9:19 PM

Wipqozn

11:30 AM

Canada released a report on legal weed today. The authors needed a way to compare the maximum size of a licensed "micro-cultivation" area. And lo, in all its Canadian glory:

Tweeted by josh_wingrove on March 19, 2018 at 5:27 PM

Tim Stone

2:04 PM

I posted both of those earlier so -1 to you both :P

Unionhawk

sfsgshsfshsfshksndjsbwndkqhebaosgdbwidorn

Tweeted by LeftistScumbag on March 20, 2018 at 7:40 AM

help

ah yes, the lobster, an animal that is very much like humans in any way at all

Yuuki

huh?

Unionhawk

apparently lobsters have male dominated heirarchies or something? which proves that as just the natural order of how everything should be? or something like that?

listen

no it doesn't make any sense

look to the praying mantis for how the natural order should be instead

Kevin van der Velden

2:24 PM

Or clownfish (finding nemo really doesn't make any kind of sense)

Unionhawk

like surface level it's insane but you know if you use a lot of words and appeal to cognative biases they'll worship you

@TimStone I'm slowly reading the nybooks article that spurred this quote tweet war lol

puzzlepiece87

@Yuuki Yeah, but those non-existent death panels could have hypothetically affected rich white people so...

Yuuki

@Unionhawk I thought the whole point of anthropocentrism was that we don't give a fig about other species because we're different and special?

SaintWacko

@Yuuki And that's just fine until you can use another species to back up your own point

puzzlepiece87

@GodEmperorDune I'm very confused. I was under the impression that college students are not one of the major opioid abuse demographics. Why are we giving the drug to universities?

SaintWacko

2:37 PM

But when other species(what's the plural of species) do things that go against your point, well then they don't matter

Unionhawk

@Yuuki see but in many ways we are very similar to the noble lobster

puzzlepiece87

@SaintWacko I think the plural of species is species, like deer. ... Verified.

SaintWacko

@puzzlepiece87 Ah, okay

Unionhawk

we can both breathe underwater, there is an active debate on whether or not either of us can feel pain, and we both taste delicious with butter

Yuuki

@Unionhawk To be fair, pretty much everything tastes delicious with butter.

Unionhawk

2:39 PM

I was just about to say that, that one is probably actually true

maybe

Yuuki

@puzzlepiece87 So that we can say we're doing something without actually helping people? I dunno.

puzzlepiece87

@GodEmperorDune Probably preaching to the choir but pedestrians can still do unavoidably dumb things, and self-driving cars don't have to be perfect, just better.

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Don't let the liberals win by making you care

puzzlepiece87

@Yuuki Makes sense, I was just wondering since I'm not super educated on ~~opioids~~ anything except for a longform from The Atlantic. :P

Yuuki

@puzzlepiece87 No really, I don't know and I'm just grasping at straw(men)s.

Tim Stone

2:48 PM

#BREAKING confirmed with sources at #greatmillsshooting : 3 students injured. 1 is the shooter. A school resource officer was on duty and took action to end threat. No final word on conditions.

Tweeted by ABC7Brad on March 20, 2018 at 1:27 PM

Arperum

@TimStone ...

Tim Stone

High school in Maryland

puzzlepiece87

@GodEmperorDune Kept reading and you made it clear you're just talking about irrational emotions, not logic. Got it.

Tim Stone

Interesting. Deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley told reporters yesterday that there was no scheduled phone call between Trump and Putin. https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/976107847850307584

Tweeted by kaitlancollins on March 20, 2018 at 2:50 PM

lol

puzzlepiece87

@GodEmperorDune loooool

Unionhawk

2:57 PM

@LukewSavage this is his william buckley "i'll sock you in the goddam face, you queer" moment. once you scratch the surface and expose these guys, all of their Reason & Logic gives way to slurs and threats

Tweeted by curaffairs on March 20, 2018 at 2:53 PM in reply to LukewSavage

Tim Stone

FTC launches investigation into Facebook use of personal data: report http://hill.cm/jVLFm3Y

Tweeted by thehill on March 20, 2018 at 3:04 PM

Ahahahaha

Notes, emails reveal Trump appointees' war to end HHS teen pregnancy program https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/notes-emails-reveal-trump-appointees-war-end-hhs-teen-pregnancy-n857686

Tweeted by KatyTurNBC on March 20, 2018 at 3:03 PM

ToxicFrog

@Unionhawk who is William Buckley?

Yuuki

@ToxicFrog Apparently some guy who said "i'll sock you in the goddam face, you queer".

Unionhawk

@ToxicFrog conservative commentator of the mid 20th, founder of the National Review

ToxicFrog

3:13 PM

Aah

Unionhawk

mid to late even apparently

Unionhawk

3:30 PM

NIXON rips off the gloves in her opening speech: "The Koch brothers donated $80,000 to Andrew Cuomo when he first ran in 2010..They knew a good investment when they saw one."

Tweeted by ShaneGoldmacher on March 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM

Unionhawk

4:04 PM

yesssssssssss we have a newsletter and it looks rad

Yuuki

4:33 PM

> Experiments that ask children to draw a researcher show a greater proportion of women in sketches over time. In the 1960s and 1970s, 99.4% of children drew a male scientist. That proportion dropped to 72% between 1985 and 2016. By the 2010s, about one in three drawings portrayed a female scientist.

puzzlepiece87

@Yuuki yay!

Yuuki

Part of me wonders about the gender distribution of children that drew a male scientist vs. female scientist.

GodEmperorDune

4:56 PM

Everybody with a copy of the bitcoin blockchain is in possession of child pornography https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/20/child-abuse-imagery-bitcoin-blockchain-illegal-content

Tweeted by felixsalmon on March 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM

Well that’s one way to ruin bitcoin

quartata

that was easy

Unionhawk

There's a right-libertarians love bitcoin joke in here somewhere

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki clearly it’s the ivanka doing science meme

quartata

Shoutouts to all the people in the comments who don't understand how the ledger works

"access to the data =/= storing the data" right. but you're storing the data

this is almost painful to read actually, they love how decentralized bitcoin is without understanding what the word means

Tim Stone

NC Sen. Thom Tillis' 2014 campaign was one of the first to use Cambridge Analytica. In a statement today, he said the firm provided "limited services." "If we were misled by a vendor, that would be deeply disturbing." http://www.wral.com/tillis-if-we-were-misled-that-would-be-disturbing/17429865/

Tweeted by tparti on March 20, 2018 at 5:00 PM

quartata

5:04 PM

"""lImItEd SErvice$""';@"

love that spin

Unionhawk

wait

Tim Stone

I just think it's hilarious he's suddenly concerned that a vendor might have misled him, a consumer!

Unionhawk

Don Blankenship is running for WV senate

Tim Stone

WHY AREN'T THERE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE?!

Unionhawk

gtfo lol

SaintWacko

5:05 PM

@TimStone Lol

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk The only way it could have been worse is if he still had his old job, a thing which WV allows

Unionhawk

ugh

puzzlepiece87

@quartata "He played a minimal role in my campaign. I'd already won the nomination!"

quartata

On the bright side the GOP now has another candidate whose porn stache can be blamed if things go wrong

puzzlepiece87

@quartata "My son in law? Don't even know the guy."

Unionhawk

5:07 PM

Misdemeanor conspiracy to willfully violate mine safety and health standards

a conspiracy that killed 29

quartata

@puzzlepiece87 kushner_irl

Unionhawk

in a just world he gets his ass kicked in the election and is exiled to the sea

let's hope at least half of that happens

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune ITT; People who don’t understand what the blockchain is and keep making false equivalencies.

quartata

@Yuuki it's astounding

the twitter comparisons are just off the charts, like do you understand how to read

hello

Chippies

5:37 PM

excuse my ignorance, but since the bitcoin "file" contains info on all of the transactions that ever happened, does that mean the file is gradually getting larger in size?

Arperum

What the hell CW: Child abuse and Bitcoin

Unionhawk

New comic: What does Trump's blimp attack on Manhattan mean for the Mueller investigation? https://thenib.com/trump-s-attacks-on-mueller-explained

Tweeted by MattBors on March 20, 2018 at 5:28 PM

Arperum

@GodEmperorDune I see you were faster than me in posting about this.

murgatroid99

On a different topic, I saw an interesting take on yesterday's Uber accident: in a self-driving car future, every car accident can be investigated with the detail and rigor with which airplane crashes are currently investigated

Both because there should be fewer accidents, and because we will have more data about each accident

puzzlepiece87

@murgatroid99 That's a good take.

SaintWacko

5:49 PM

@Arperum Oof

And there's no good fix for that

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 this is a great idea

Yuuki

@Chippies hackernoon.com/…

> Hint: It’s NOT pretty…

user15026

@murgatroid99 Huh, that's an interesting point, I never considered that

Yuuki

> So let’s recap. If Bitcoin took over the world today, a single Bitcoin node operator in the United States:
> - would have to purchase a machine capable of providing 3TB of memory, that would probably cost well above $10,000
> - would need $2,413 per year in order to store the blockchain on the machine
> - would have to route blocks through a CDN operator that would cost over $600 per month. Gone are the days of Google Fiber and AT&T!
> - would face block validation times of up to one month per block. So our node might not be doing much of anything at all.

puzzlepiece87

@Arperum (joking because it's only been three months since the first big crash) Argh Bitcoin why you go up? You're more immune to bad news than Trump.

Yuuki

6:00 PM

(Do not click 'full text', there is no further info)

puzzlepiece87

(I'm still rooting for another crash)

Chippies

@Yuuki is the blockchain needed for use (paying/receiving) or only for mining?

GodEmperorDune

gotta be #creaful with the blockchain yall

Kevin van der Velden

@Chippies you can use a limited subset of the chain for paying IIRC

Yuuki

@Chippies You can use lightweight nodes (which contain only your transactions) instead of the full node, but somebody (preferably as many people as possible) needs to store full nodes.

> It doesn’t look like the 150,000+ nodes running today will be able to stick around long enough to see our Bitcoin Valhalla. Instead, they will be priced out and replaced by monopolized and centralized entities with enough financial power to maintain server racks that can handle hundreds of billions of consumer transactions per year.

Hmm...

Why does that sound familiar...

user15026

6:02 PM

Baaaaaaaaaank

Yuuki

I mean, yes you could argue that progress of technology could reduce all these costs.

But you can't really make calculations and extrapolations based on stuff that doesn't exist yet.

Tim Stone

@murgatroid99 Well, assuming you remove all the other aspects of why event data recorders in cars are intentionally limited. I guess removing blame from human occupants will help there, though...

user15026

@TimStone Wait, what? Intentionally limited?

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum isn't bitcoin also p2p in the sense that you can download the blockchain from other people? So not only are you storing CP, you're now also distributing it. Which generally probably has a higher sentence

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden probably.

GodEmperorDune

6:04 PM

@Ash privacy rules around location tracking iirc

Tim Stone

@Ash There are huge privacy implications in just having All The Data

murgatroid99

You don't really need a day's worth of location data or whatever to analyze a collision. I would generally expect that the few minutes before the collision would be sufficient.

Tim Stone

Insurance companies are also not particularly fond of data getting in the way of their lawyers avoiding payouts, too

murgatroid99

I mean, the driving system would probably have a lot of that data anyway to function properly

user15026

@TimStone Ah, yes that makes sense

Tim Stone

6:11 PM

@murgatroid99 Yeah, the situation is improved by having data of what's "seen", since that can't be captured now. So you get 15 seconds of pre-collision speed and braking and steering data and whatever now but it's undesirable to draw conclusions about that

Just because someone's speeding doesn't mean they should have seen the pedestrian, just because someone failed to brake doesn't mean the other car, which didn't have data recorded, wasn't at fault, etc

murgatroid99

Why do you say that can't be captured now? I've seen that exact thing published for previous collisions involving Waymo cars

Tim Stone

The self-driving car having extra inputs on which it's making decisions lets you see where the fault is more directly

@murgatroid99 I'm talking about event data recorders in human-driven cars

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 i guess they capture waymo data than other cars

puzzlepiece87

@GodEmperorDune You all are worse than ArsTechnica. Kevin is going to PSA you lol.

Kevin van der Velden

What am I going to do?

GodEmperorDune

6:14 PM

local bookstore knows what time it is

Tweeted by mollypriddy on March 20, 2018 at 6:12 PM

puzzlepiece87

@KevinvanderVelden Get on their case for making terrible Waymo puns.

Tim Stone

Wow. SHSanders, when asked if Russia's election was free and fair, simply said that the US doesn't get to dictate to other countries how they pick their leaders.

Tweeted by NivElis on March 20, 2018 at 6:02 PM

jfc

Kevin van der Velden

Oh, too busy with warframe rn

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone wuuuuuuuuuuut

Tim Stone

Like in the most technical of senses, no we shouldn't get to dictate that, but the answer is basically "lol fuck democracy right?"

Yuuki

6:16 PM

@puzzlepiece87 He's got waymo problems to deal with that.

Unionhawk

Good to see that SHS is against the CIA's activities :)

GodEmperorDune

also serial bombers aren't terrorism?

UPDATE: Austin bombings show no link to terrorism: White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders http://reut.rs/2FOJ4KD

Tweeted by ReutersUS on March 20, 2018 at 3:48 PM

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune """terrorism"""

Kevin van der Velden

Is terror the goal?

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune It's because A) the bombings have largely targeted black people, B) we don't know who the suspect is, so it's possible that they are white males, and C) it hasn't been confirmed that the suspect is Muslim.

GodEmperorDune

6:17 PM

@Yuuki pretty much

Unionhawk

Y E P

Tim Stone

hmmm

Tweeted by SimonMaloy on March 20, 2018 at 6:15 PM in reply to SimonMaloy

lol

user15026

@GodEmperorDune it's because it's not brown people killing white people so naturally no terrorism because duh terrorism couldn't be anything else.

Tim Stone

JUST IN: Judge rules Trump has no immunity from defamation lawsuit filed by former "Apprentice" contestant http://hill.cm/ISh1NXA

Tweeted by thehill on March 20, 2018 at 6:25 PM

Arperum

6:33 PM

@TimStone inb4 he pardons himself.

puzzlepiece87

@Yuuki All the way yes

Unionhawk

Can you pardon yourself for not-crimes?

or anyone for that matter?

Tim Stone

@Arperum Presumably this all falls under the state's defamation laws, in which case he can't!

Arperum

@TimStone \o/

ToxicFrog

@Unionhawk AIUI, a pardon specifically applies to crimes and implies an admission of guilt

Unionhawk

6:36 PM

It includes an admission of guilt, which could make Arpaio's pardon fun

Joe Arpaio is literally guilty of whatever he was pardoned for (I forget specifically, civil rights stuff)

ToxicFrog

My understanding here is that this means he is immune to criminal law (WRT those specific crimes) but is now set up to be dunked on forever in civil law

Unionhawk

Yeah, "Joe Arpaio committed civil rights crimes" is just a fact now

from what I understand

in other unrelated news, United States vs Approximately 64 Dogs is a court case that exists

Yuuki

@ToxicFrog And also, pardons are for federal laws.

He can still be prosecuted under state laws, I think.

ToxicFrog

OTOH, that would be great, OTOH I can't see an Arizona jury convicting him

user15026

@Unionhawk Approximately?

Yuuki

6:44 PM

@Unionhawk See Ford pardoning Nixon. Was Nixon ever actually brought up on charges?

Unionhawk

I mean he was impeached so I think so

Yuuki

Curse your sudden but inevitable impeachment.

Tim Stone

@ToxicFrog It actually doesn't! Burdick v United States suggested this in some capacity but it hasn't really been established in a legal sense

Unionhawk

Obstruction of justice, abuse of power, contempt of congress

Tim Stone

It's even weirder in this case where he was pardoned preemptive of the actual charges

Which is also not guaranteed to be allowed but I have no idea how we'd get a court case establishing whether it was or wasn't okay

Although it's actually surprising that we even got Burdick in the first place. In that case the government wanted to track down a leaker, the reporter (Burdick) refused to tell them and took the fifth, Wilson was like "Heeey buddy you don't need to take the fifth, if you Did Some Crimes I'm hereby pardoning you so spill the beans" and Burdick was like "??? No"

So they fined him and jailed him and then the Supreme Court said "Actually y'all he doesn't have to take that pardon, he can refuse and continue to assert the fifth if he wants"

GodEmperorDune

6:56 PM

Something about Sunday's accident dredged up a memory from the Waymo trial. So I went back and looked at some of the stuff Uber's former head of self-driving cars said in the past, especially about car safety https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/20/17144090/uber-car-accident-arizona-safety-anthony-levandowski-waymo

Tweeted by sarahjeong on March 20, 2018 at 6:44 PM

Yuuki

> "I'm pissed we didn't have the first death."

wew

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune Classy

Incidentally I get Levandowski and Lewandowski confused but I'm pretty sure they're just the same asshole at heart

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone pretty much

Unionhawk

> safety third

weeeeeeeeeeew

GodEmperorDune

like i said, not surprised it was uber

Mad Scientist

7:01 PM

@GodEmperorDune there's really not enough hard data public now, but I do expect that Uber will get a fair share of blame for this accident. And together with the stuff in the article that shows that safety was probably not a priority, this could get seriously ugly for them

SaintWacko

@Yuuki Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

Yuuki

@MadScientist Yeah, this is just the harbinger of Waymo problems for Uber.

Unionhawk

I mean Uber is turbocapitalism at its finest. A company that continues to lose money because profitability would mean not driving down taxi fares and wages, subsidized by finance, with the eventual profitable future of eliminating all of their workers somewhere on the horizon

Yuuki

Shareholders could really use a Lyft after such news.

Unionhawk

meanwhile drivers, after expenses, make like, $3 per hour, median

Mad Scientist

7:05 PM

What could be interesting is how the accident will be analyzed, and how serious all the companies in that area will take the result. If it's anything close to how airplane accidents are investigated, this will be a very good thing.

user15026

@Unionhawk I knew it was low. I was reading an article today about the health insurance scandal stuff with the TTC and they were trying to positively spin the fact that one of the people involved was fired (even though I think he helped things come to light but the article was vague on that fact) but he still gets to spread joy or whatever with driving people around (he was a bus driver, loved his job etc) because he drives for Uber now

user15026

And I was like "uh....yeah, I don't think that's the same, considering TTC drivers apparently start at $20+ per hour, and Uber....doesn't pay much at all"

ToxicFrog

wut

Mad Scientist

@Unionhawk that figure was later corrected, if I remember correctly. Not that it changes much of the overall point

Unionhawk

yeah there's a medium post on that in the editors note

GodEmperorDune

7:10 PM

@MadScientist the same agency is investigating, i hope they are that thorough

EXCLUSIVE: Facebook held an internal town hall today so employees could ask about the Cambridge Analytica scandal. You'll never guess which top executives, um, leaned out. https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-mark-zuckerberg-awol-from-facebooks-data-leak-damage-control-session

Tweeted by attackerman on March 20, 2018 at 7:10 PM

Mad Scientist

The whole Cambridge Analytica thing is blowing up much more than I expected

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist apparently the CEO is recorded saying they ran things for the trump campaign, which is illegal

Mad Scientist

The CEO is also suspended now, not that this will save them

GodEmperorDune

nope

channel4.com/news/…

SaintWacko

7:26 PM

@MadScientist Yeah, it was one of those things that seemed like "Oh, another data leak issue" and instead it turns out they've had their fingers in all the pies

Mad Scientist

I didn't expect them to actually provide the Ukranian hookers themselves

GodEmperorDune

here is a more technical explainer of the facebook's problematic API

Getting lots of questions, so I'm posting a thread with an outline of key points to focus on in stories re: privacy implications and questions of Facebook's Graph API. The Graph API is the underlying issue in Cambridge Analytica & FB data-sharing & voter micro-targeting debacle.

Tweeted by d1gi on March 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM

Unionhawk

8:13 PM

lol zuck has been summoned to british court

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk RIP "suckerberg"

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk "Was...was I not supposed to wear a wig? Is that not what Regular Human British People do in court?"

GodEmperorDune

Congress quietly preserves ability to pay sexual harassment settlements with taxpayer money https://thinkprogress.org/gillibrand-sexual-harassment-reform-in-jeopardy-307a68b831e5/

Tweeted by SarahLerner on March 20, 2018 at 12:49 AM

Unionhawk

Don't believe the hype: Stormy Daniels' lawyer didn't say or even imply that they have pictures of Trump's dong. https://trib.al/BsTIv4D

Tweeted by splinter_news on March 20, 2018 at 1:35 AM

hard hitting journalism

GodEmperorDune

i told yall it was just rumors

Unionhawk

8:28 PM

you are fake news

GodEmperorDune

fair

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Wait, Trump's porn name is David Dennison?

Wow, that's boring.

I feel like it's be the other way around, some dude named David Dennison uses "Donald Trump" as his porn name.

puzzlepiece87

9:25 PM

> At the same time, the justices issued groundbreaking rulings that protected the speech of unpopular individuals and groups against government censorship. It was these cases, which involved government attempts to quash union picketing, student protests of the Vietnam war, flag-burning and Nazi protests, that established free speech as an essential protection for people with minority opinions who were in danger of being silenced by the majority.

^ Just showing again how the rights of unions and war protestors are sometimes intertwined (unfortunately) with those of Nazis.

And that selective rights protection can lead to serious long-term losses

So I'm a fan of the ACLU's approach for the most part

Yuuki

The ACLU is clearly biased as they're always defending rights and never lefts.

I, for one, want to see a civil lefts movement.

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki No, bad.

puzzlepiece87

@KevinvanderVelden @Yuuki I mean, are you sure that wouldn't cause waymo problems than it solves?

#CivilCentrists #BigTent

Kevin van der Velden

9:41 PM

7 mins ago, by Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki No, bad.

I hope you appreciate my efforts to do that from mobile

puzzlepiece87

I definitely do ha

Now all that's left to do is for you to get a legal degree so you can bar puns from the room.

Mad Scientist

10:23 PM

> “So the candidate is the puppet?,” the undercover reporter asked.
“Always,” replied Mr Nix.

Mad Scientist

10:34 PM

How a Self-Driving Uber Killed a Pedestrian in Arizona

If that graphic is accurate, I'd blame Uber. If the car was in the right lane, it should be able to notice a pedestrian crossing from the left early enough to at least slow down significantly

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist yeah they need to put waymo emphasis on safety

For reals tho, DARE was the source of pretty much every ruler in America for a decade, so, I guess the program really did have a measurable impact.

Tweeted by erinscafe on March 19, 2018 at 7:24 PM in reply to erinscafe

Unionhawk

Senate voted 55-44 to table a motion to end U.S. involvement in Yemen

Tweeted by igorbobic on March 20, 2018 at 9:08 PM

B I P A R T I S A N S H I P

Tim Stone

PA GOP moves to impeach judges who ordered gerrymandered district maps redrawn http://hill.cm/ANaMjeL

Tweeted by thehill on March 20, 2018 at 10:46 PM

lol of course

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone what is their endgame

even the conservatives on SCOTUS shut them down

Tim Stone

Well they'll just make a new-new map

Unionhawk

10:49 PM

@GodEmperorDune secede from the union

Tim Stone

And get a new governor

GodEmperorDune

chris dush? more like chris douche

Tim Stone

And uhh

Unionhawk

Declare war on the United States

Immediately surrender and apply for foreign aid

GodEmperorDune

they're not even pretending it was for other crimes

its literally impeachment for a "wrong" decision

i can't even

puzzlepiece87

10:51 PM

@MadScientist Agreed on the graphic

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune Their claim is that the judges overstepped their bounds so shame on them or whatever

Unionhawk

@Unionhawk notable votes

Your typical group of winners with a couple not on the list

puzzlepiece87

@Unionhawk To be fair, I don't think ending US presence in Yemen is the key, I think applying massive pressure on Saudi Arabia to quit committing genocide is the key.

@Unionhawk Everyone's endgame really

Unionhawk

I mean it's a first step to confronting key ally, friend, and good guy crown prince mbs

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone separation of powers, judicial review, etc

Unionhawk

10:54 PM

Great personal friend MBS

Friend of the show

Unionhawk

11:39 PM