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12:09 AM

Trump says FBI agents raided his Florida home reuters.com/world/us/…

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> The investigation comes after the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration in February notified Congress that it had recovered about 15 boxes of White House documents from Trump's Florida home, some of which contained classified materials.

Naturally

forest

Well, did he leak them? If not, shame on him.

user4539917

12:32 AM

Unfortunately, there is no shame in being unimpeachable.

Memor-X

1:42 AM

Trump is complaining because the FBI raided Mar-A-Lago

Unionhawk

This is probably not actually significant in any real way but I think we can all agree that it's very funny

Memor-X

yeh, just imagining the FBI doing what he describes

Unionhawk

Like if anything joe is going to pardon his ass like they did with nixon back in the day so this isn't anything probably

Memor-X

> Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents

and then we get shots of them playing Golf

Unionhawk

I don't think it's a siege if they're inside

Or if you let them in when they said "fbi - search warrant"

I think technically a siege also has to have a goal of starving people out of a fortified position

Memor-X

1:46 AM

yeh the 3 descripts are for different stages

Unionhawk

You take the bailey and siege the keep and whatnot

Memor-X

if someone has "occupied" a location, then the siege is over. if the location has been "raided", then they have already gotten what they came from and left, thus not occupying

Unionhawk

capturing the mcdonalds nearby to cut off supplies

Or the Publix or whatever

Jolenealaska

6:45 AM

Sometimes I like to say things just because I want to be able to point to them later and say, "see?"

like

Jan 6, 2021 at 21:53, by Jolenealaska

Dec 29 '20 at 20:38, by Jolenealaska

Speaking of senseless violence, if I lived in DC I'd be getting the hell out of Dodge before the 6th. I'm afraid (thanks to Trump's incitement) that day is going to be deadly. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/protests/trump-supporters-rally-protest-january-6-maga-protest/65-2639563a-b04e-4a40-a028-23083673d46b

So today I say: This search is the beginning of the end for Trump.

At this moment I would bet money that he will not be allowed to run in 2024, and that the public drama starts now.

FBI Searches Trump Home On Nixon Resignation Speech Anniversary

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Memor-X

let him run

or

have the drama from the Trumpers about him being able to run.

hard to tell which would be worse

Jolenealaska

I am of the opinion that he absolutely cannot be allowed to run.

By every single reasonable legal standard, the man is a stone criminal.

It's not enough to hope he won't get the Republican nomination.

He needs to be stripped of the protection of being somebody that just might be running.

Anything less encourages the next Nazi.

Towards that end, I think the nation would benefit from seeing him do a good old-fashioned perp-walk. I think any time behind bars would probably do more harm to the nation than good, but a perp-walk could shake us all just right.

I'm grinning from ear-to-ear:

Mary Trump: Trump Is 'Panicked' After FBI Search Of Mar-a-Lago

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forest

7:24 AM

Meh. Either nothing will come of it, or it'll make the alt-right particularly insufferable.

I'd rather see Trump fade into obscurity.

Jolenealaska

The only way that happens is if he has a stroke.

That man's narcissism is a force of cosmic malice.

forest

His evil is overrated imho.

He's just a buffoon. If he had an ounce of intelligence, I'd be more concerned.

Corsaka

8:47 AM

from a non-american perspective it looks like trump was just saying whatever he could to curry favour with the largest group

him panicking over his house getting raided is funny, sure, but until it proves any actual crime i'm content in thinking trump was just an incompetent buffoon and not any more of a threat to american democracy than amazon is

Wipqozn

11:04 AM

ctvnews.ca/world/…

> Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who's facing voters this fall, tweeted: "Using government power to persecute political opponents is something we have seen many times from 3rd world Marxist dictatorships But never before in America."

Trump unleashed a violent mob on the Capitol and supported their desire to hang Mike Pence

Wipqozn

12:01 PM

@forest idk, I'd consider unleashing a violent mob on the capitol in an attempt to seize power illegally seems pretty evil to me.

Corsaka

he can have a little bit of attempted murder, as a treat

Nzall

@Unionhawk I think by the time you starve Trump, his rabid fanbase will already have started a countersiege

Wipqozn

@Nzall They already showed up during the raid.

Nzall

@Jolenealaska The GOP would probably still support Trump if he was in a vegetative state

Fredy31

12:24 PM

@Nzall I really dont get why the GOP seems to still go ham for trump

Nzall

@Fredy31 Simple

Fredy31

Its an all or nothing game, and really, I would give it a generous 10% chance of getting it all

and if you dont get it all, the party will probably die

Nzall

Last time the demagogue ran, before he tried to overthrow democracy, he got the second highest vote amount in US election history

Fredy31

Guess they are blinded by the possibility of having a totalitarian regime on their side

@Nzall still lost the popular vote tho. They didnt get that much votes because they are good, they got that much vote because of how charged that electioon was

And if Trump is on the ballot again, I would expect a turnout like that again.But it will be worse for trump that time

the Q movement is bleeding support by the day because of all the things the Q hardcores do

Jan6 being their magnum opus

Nzall

@Fredy31 Depends on how much the GOP succeeds in election fraud by voter suppression

Like, LOOK! Look at how many voter suppression laws GOP states have enacted

Fredy31

12:30 PM

yeah I guess thats the crux of it. they are trying to stack the deck so hard it doesnt fucking matter what the popular vote does

Nzall

@Fredy31 It's more than that

See, the GOP's final plan is a constitutional conference

Which they can call if they get enough states under their power

If that happens, they can rewrite the constitution as they see fit

Without approval of congress

Fredy31

Huh, didnt know that

So yeah it starts making sense, do that and make the constitution for a christian facist state

Nzall

businessinsider.com/…

Fredy31

but the probable result of that is every deep blue state will sceceed

and that would probably be a victory for them either

Nzall

If they have 34 states, they can call one

Fredy31

12:34 PM

they will rule without the impeeding of the pesky democrats with their 'caring about people' thing

Would have been my guess. 66%

same in canada, if I remember right

But yeah, i said it before and i'll say it again: I think the current situation will end in a split of the red and blue states in the US.

Red states will go down the ultra christian state road, the blue ones will basically pass everything like every developped country has on day 1

and i'm prettty sure the blue states will have it a lot better in 10 years lol

Nzall

The problem is that AFAIK, the Red States would split the blue states RIGHT down the middle

Fredy31

Yeah that is a possiblity that for simplicity, east coastal states will be a country, west coastal states will be another and theres gonna be the bible thumping regime in the middle

But before the specifics, I kinda expect that in 20 years the US of A will be no more.

That or the GOP will implode and never get power again

there is already a small push that moderate conservatives want to break off in their own party, to not have to live under trump

Nzall

2:43 PM

@Fredy31 oh, that would be interesting. Essentially a spoiler candidate

Memor-X

3:22 PM

@Wipqozn oh and they still hate pence

footage from the "FBI Raid" outside Mar-A-Lago you see some of his fanboys driving past with their flags. one's got the old Trump Pence sign but rather than getting a new one they just crossed out Pence

Fredy31

@Memor-X Budget supporter lol

Also how fucking nothing going on in your life do you have to be to just do laps around your favorite politician's castle with flags

But yeah, if the FBI raided trump's residence... they know they have the shit

to put down enough argument to justify a fbi raid on an ex president home they needed ironclad shit

Wipqozn

4:03 PM

@Nzall The GOP will support him so long as their base does, which apparently they always will. They're a cult.

BradC

7:47 PM

Appeals court says House can obtain Trump’s taxes from the IRS

BradC

8:11 PM

Illegal ‘Hamilton’ production at Texas church under fire for added Jesus references, anti-LGBT sermon afterward

Not to mention for being, you know, totally illegal

Here's a video that shows clips from their marketing and the show itself demonstrating that, no, this isn't fair use or parody or anything, just a blatant rip-off:

The Door McAllen church performed an illegal, Christian version of "Hamilton"

Wipqozn

8:47 PM

How is it illegal? Is the play under copyright?

BradC

yes. You can't just watch the Disney+ version of Hamilton, build sets and costumes, buy a CD of the soundtrack, and put on the fucking play

I mean, you can, but you're going to get sued up the ass

even if you're a church

Like, high school drama clubs pay THOUSANDS of dollars to be able to perform SUPER OLD musicals like Greece

and Hamilton is (relatively) brand new, and isn't yet being licensed to ANYONE for ANY PRICE

its still actively touring and bringing in millions. Its going to be another decade before they even think about it

Wipqozn

Had no idea how new it was

Oh wow, Grease is way newer than I realized too

BradC

@Wipqozn 1971?

Grease (musical)

Grease is a musical by Jim Jacobs and Warren Casey. Named after the 1950s United States working-class youth subculture known as greasers, the musical is set in 1959 at fictional Rydell High School (based on William Howard Taft School in Chicago, Illinois and named after rock singer Bobby Rydell) and follows ten working-class teenagers as they navigate the complexities of peer pressure, politics, personal core values, and love. The score borrows heavily from the sounds of early rock and roll. In its original production in Chicago, Grease was a raunchy, raw, aggressive, vulgar show. Subsequen...

Wipqozn

9:02 PM

@BradC Yes.

Jolenealaska

I was the president of my high school thespian society. Recipient of the superintendent award for drama. I'm bigly into musicals. (I was stunned about Olivia Newton-John - SANDY!) The Hamilton thing is amazing. They streamed the first performance.

I'm pretty shocked (especially considering the anti-gay thing) that Hamilton let the church do one more performance after cease and desist order.

Speaking of musicals I have found my new favorite artist of political parody. I'm sure I'm way behind the times, and you all know this guy, but if not: youtube.com/c/RandyRainbowOfficial

SEDITION! - A Randy Rainbow Parody

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