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Tim Stone

12:38 PM

@Wipqozn The kid who the cop killed wasn't even the one who shot the cop

Judging by the description of the incident the cop was either shot by another cop or he shot himself in the leg

Wipqozn

US expels Russian diplomats, imposes new round of sanctions apnews.com/article/…

@TimStone If cops start shooting each other, do you think they'll start caring about cop shootings?

as for Russia, I wonder if Trump will release a statement supporting Russia and condemning biden.

Although I'm really not sure how Trump keeps releasing these statements which are basically tweets.

@TimStone It's unclear, but did the student have a gun? They make it sound like he was armed, in which case the use of deadly force makes sense... except US Police just cannot be trusted at all in these situations.

The boy who cried wolf, sort of.

Even if they were justified in this case, we have little reason to believe them, considering how often they lie and shoot black people for literally no reason.

Unionhawk

well that and cops just straight up lie constantly lol

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk You got inb4 by mere seconds. SECONDS.

Their refusal to release body cam footage certainly makes it more suspect as well.

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Elva

2:05 PM

I think it's been established pretty thoroughly that if the cops don't release body cam footage it's because they did an oopsie woopsie and murdered someone

ToxicFrog

Yeah

IMO if they don't release the cam footage the investigation should be required to assume it contained whatever the worst possible outcome for the cops is

SaintWacko

Yeah, that would make a lot of sense

Isn't there something about suppressing evidence?

ToxicFrog

"Oh, your body cams 'malfunctioned'? All of them? Ok, we'll enter this into the record as 'police attempted to buy drugs from ISIS in order to sell them to gradeschoolers to fund their human trafficking habit, and shot this guy when he caught them in the act'."

Elva

Yeah, it doesn't hold up in court but... I mean the courts are in league with the cops anyway

ToxicFrog

2:21 PM

Yeah, I mean, for this to work the entire structure of how police crime is investigated and prosecuted needs to be rebuilt

but it's a nice dream

SaintWacko

2:44 PM

If we could just make it so the police don't investigate themselves, that'd be a nice start

Nzall

@SaintWacko something like this?

Committee P

The Committee P (Dutch: Comité P French: Comité P, German: Komitee P), or the Permanent Oversight Committee on the Police Services (Dutch: Vast Comité van Toezicht op de politiediensten, French: Comité permanent de contrôle des services de police), exercises external oversight over the Belgian police and all civil servants with police authority. It is responsible to the Belgian Chamber of Representatives, the lower house of the Belgian Federal Parliament, which appoints and dismisses its members. == Presidents == The president of the Committee P must be a magistrate. January 2012 (ad interim since...

It's a federal committee that does blameless investigations of police misconduct and makes recommendations for avoiding missteps later on

Yuuki

@SaintWacko gotta love how everyone hates internal affairs in the police procedurals and they're always characterized as bad guys

Unionhawk

3:15 PM

Jack Bauer 24 doesn't have time for an internal investigation

Wipqozn

3:29 PM

Chauvin won't testify at murder trial in Floyd's death apnews.com/article/…

I think defendants not taking the stand is fairly common

Yuuki

@Wipqozn yeah, it rarely happens. right to not self-incriminate and all that

or at least, most attorneys would advise against it

Nzall

3:49 PM

Also from the Chauvin trial: the prosecution is not allowed to reference a lab test result that shows Floyd had elevated levels of CO2, because they forgot to share that report with the defense

MBraedley

@Nzall sounds like a paralegal in the DA's office is getting fired

Memor-X

4:08 PM

@ToxicFrog it's like the streisand effect

except rather than us want to see it more, we're just assuming that it's going to contain the worst

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Wipqozn

6:03 PM

Oh goodie, the shittiness of Twitter has forced Lindsey Ellis to come out about her history as a rape victim, and also be more public about her sexual orientation than she's comfortable being.

I sure do love twitter

Wipqozn

7:02 PM

"Conservatives plan to introduce $20-per-tonne carbon price in climate plan | CTV News" ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/…

> The move represents a major policy shift for the party, which has long campaigned to scrap the carbon price introduced by the Liberals under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

> The party, which did not immediately respond to requests for comment, says its system would be more affordable than what's currently in place, and it would work with provinces to create a "Personal Low Carbon Savings Account."

> The plan says Canadians would pay into their account each time they buy hydrocarbon-based fuel, and then use that money to pay for products to help them live a "greener life," like a bike or bus pass.

> The Liberal plan -- applicable only in provinces that do not have their own carbon pricing scheme -- sets the price at $40 per tonne, rising each year until it reaches $170 per tonne by 2030.

> The Conservative plan also aims to "go big" on zero-emissions vehicles by requiring 30 per cent of light-duty vehicles -- cars, SUVs, pickup trucks -- sold to be pollutant-free by 2030.

Wipqozn

7:26 PM

"So far, 5,800 fully vaccinated people have caught COVID-19 anyway in U.S., CDC says | CTV News" ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/…

> Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization.

To put this into context, nearly 200 million Americans have been vaccinated

So 5800 is less than than 1% of vaccinated Americans

Aka that CTV article is complete garbage with its current state

Aka it's lacking important context

But it's interesting data

Nzall

7:42 PM

@Wipqozn I don't think 200M Americans have been FULLY vaccinated though

Also, we already knew in advance that the vaccines did not have 100% protection rate

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Yuuki

9:14 PM

on other hand, i distinctly remember some of the vaccines as being advertised as 100% effective in preventing covid-related death

which... maybe don't say 100% if the probability isn't 100%?

Unionhawk

well right now all of them are advertised as "there is no FDA approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19" lol

Wipqozn

10:06 PM

CTV News: Don Martin: Folly green giant meets Big Brother in Conservative carbon scheme.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-martin-folly-green-giant-meets-big-brother-in-conservative-carbon-scheme-1.5389093

Unionhawk

10:58 PM

> UPDATE: Chicago has released bodycam video of the police killing of 13-year-old #AdamToledo:

▪️ **The video shows Adam had his hands up when police opened fire, killing him.**
▪️ Cook County now says prosecutor made an error when they said Adam was holding a gun. https://t.co/dC5tyMpgO9

Wow holy shit you mean the cops were fucking lying when they said they had an "armed confrontation" with the child they fucking murdered

And that the prosecutor was trying to help with the cover up

Fuck this shit dude