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12:19 AM
@Memor-X hey I remmeber that guy
FRom, uh, 15 years ago?
@Memor-X hjmm while I certainly agree with everything I've seen in this so far, it most certainly violates "BE nice", so I 'm going to delete it.
Specifically it's the "Go die" that makes it clearly cross the line in my mind.
 
-_-
 
@user85795 No. I'm sure he'd get banned very quickly if he had SE account!
 
nvm
 
 
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3:03 AM
As apologies go, that one was pretty good.
 
@tchrist Also, wtf? Why was this employee fired over this to begin with?
That's such an extreme response
 
3:18 AM
@Wipqozn I can't tell.
It's so weird to find all these folks I knew as kids in kingly station.
Well, princely.
 
@Wipqozn because the violated the ~decorum principle~ of always pretending that people elsewhere on the political spectrum are only ever "the principled opposition who I respectfully disagree with" and not, you know, bigoted shitheads who want to see you & your entire family dead in a ditch
And someone else at the company yelled about that
 
3:41 AM
@ToxicFrog OH I assume, it's just that jumping straight to firing seems like such an absurd response
 
@ToxicFrog Hannah-Jones, the New York Times reporter whose “1619 Project” won a Pulitzer Prize in 2020: “What does reuniting with people who are willing to overthrow our democracy in the service of holding on to white power [look like]?” The notion that these are "the principled opposition who I respectfully disagree with" seems to conflict with reality.
 
Certainly the latest example of "HR is not your friend" though
 
Soylent Green.
 
@tchrist It's just a bullshit narrative being pushed by racists to normalize their views
You can't tolerate intolerance. It just doesn't work. All it does is result in hate and bigotry spreading and taking over.
 
It's not normal. But it's nothing like new. It's been happening forever.
And the old "strategies" of false normalization have always worked before.
So of course they will attempt to replay the same old song.
 
3:46 AM
an eye for an eye
 
3:59 AM
I have a young black man staying with me. He's here with his girlfriend, they are ostensibly studying for the GED and ASVAB.
They barely knew about an election that had recently happened. I don't understand how this is possible, but I'm not sure they would know today about the capitol siege if I hadn't been keeping them up-to-date.
I took them on as kind of a project.
Kind of like fostering a litter of kittens.
And that was the deal going in. I think I even used those words.
I mention that the young man is Black because expect to see some outrage specific to white nationalism that is coming to the fore.
The strange thing is that there isn't any.
Oh, and he didn't know that today is Martin Luther King day until I told him about 2 hours ago. I gave him some small shit for that one.
 
4:19 AM
@TimStone "i don't have to worry about getting fired from my job because i own the company" *gets blacklisted in partnerships*
 
 
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12:52 PM
> The notion that these are "the principled opposition who I respectfully disagree with" seems to conflict with reality.
@tchrist oh, it is completely at odds with reality, but HR's job is first and foremost to protect the company from litigation and firing one person is considered a lower risk than inviting defamation lawsuits from nazis and their friends.
 
 
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3:02 PM
> “Hands up don’t shoot!” We condemn the arrests of several peaceful strikers on the @Teamsters picket line tonight at Hunts Point Market. These essential workers deserve their $1 raise t.co/PZhdvUe20v
(I did some research so good news for the AFLCIO, the NYC PBA appears not to be an AFLCIO member organization)
 
 
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4:48 PM
How can you be more worthless than Joe Manchin?
 
5:03 PM
They can't be prosecuted for anything they've said on the Capitol, so the only option is censure and (hopefully) expulsion by the senate.
Get with the program, Dianne!
(Not that anything they said on the Capitol was actually illegal, so there might not be an avenue for prosecution anyway.)
 
wait the senate is still 48-52
:gun: always has been
at least we have incoming chair of the senate budget committee I guess
 
@TimStone This may be a controversial opinion, but I don't think there's anything really wrong with what they did. The Electoral Count act of 1887 allows for senators and representatives to voice their concerns with regards to electoral college votes, at which point both houses of Congress separate to debate and vote over them. The Zodiac Killer might have objected over the votes for entirely bogus reasons, but he did not break any senate rule or law
Note that I do not agree with what he did because there is no evidence whatsoever of election fraud and all he did was cite statistics, I'm just saying he acted well within his rights
 
@Nzall This is less to do with the objections and more that those objections are tacit approval of the insurrectionists that stormed the Capitol just hours earlier.
 
@MBraedley AFAIK his objections were voiced BEFORE the capitol was stormed
and considering he was the one who filed the original written complaint, he pretty much had no choice but to continue objecting
 
@Nzall His full remarks happened after, I believe. His initial objection happened before, yes.
 
don't make me pull the rules of the senate to locate rules on withdrawing a motion because I'm 99% sure that's a thing
in any case a motion to censure the senator would fail about 20-80 anyway
 
5:41 PM
@Nzall No, you can withdraw your objections. It doesn't look good in this case, but it certainly looks better than continuing with sedition.
 
From a purely political/logical perspective, the fact that the Capitol was stormed would not impede his personal conviction that millions of people believe in election fraud
 
since senators are all friends and oh think about the decorum of the senate and and
how dare you judge ted cruz for accidentally being on the side that wants to install god king donald trump as a permanent emperor
he just tripped and fell into that and that is why I, senator sherrod brown of ohio, will also vote no probably
 
They only believed in the election fraud because people like him lied about there being election fraud
And there's no reason we have to tolerate that
 
There's certainly no reason we have to
 
What he asked for AFAIK: there is a significant minority of US citizens who believe there has been voter fraud, so all he wants is an official inquiry/committee/investigation into whether there has actually been voter fraud
 
5:43 PM
And no good reason that they're going to
but they're going to for bad reasons anyway so it's fine
the system works
:)
 
Again: I personally do not believe there has been any even remotely meaningful amount of voter fraud. However, I think they should hold that official investigation regardless with a bipartisan committee, just to prove that there was in fact no election fraud
and :galaxy_brain: also to prove that there have been significant efforts by the Republican party to restrict voting rights
 
I think you can just go to their website to find that
It's not really a secret
Or illegal as long as they don't say out loud that they are doing it because of racism
 
Stuff like, I don't know, closing voting places in predominantly blue districts, removing mail-in ballot boxes, dismantling USPS equipment critical to proper functioning, overly demanding Voter ID laws,...
 
@Nzall This has already been proven. By Republicans. Don't give them anything else to grab onto.
 
I don't think you need to investigate any further to prove these things
They wrote it all down and committed it to action in the legislature, the office of the secretary of state, etc
 
5:49 PM
@Unionhawk No, but just having a federal report by a bipartisan committee on the mass disenfranchisement of voters would be so amusing
 
god which case was it that was like "actually technically there is no federal right to vote"
was that bush v gore?
hmm
Oh it might have been shelby county v holder
 
area man is trying to find the guy who did this
 
Mitch McConnell doing that malicious little grin as he realises it's his turn to drive the bus people are being thrown under
"I did nothing to stop this, but!"
 
It's sad and a little scary that McConnell is going to come out of these past 4 years better than he entered them in some respects.
 
Probably
Surprising that they appear to be a c3 though
the one that's actually slightly difficult to register as
(it's super easy to incorporate a c4 as long as you have a fairly traditional governance structure)
(depending on the state obviously, I can't imagine Indiana is much more difficult than Kentucky was)
 
6:12 PM
@TimStone Is that because she has been cancelled?
 
 
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7:31 PM
@MBraedley Because of a last-minute conversion in which he now condemns Trump?
 
Yeah
 
It may be the only way he isn't seen by history as the lame-duck leader of a nascent Republiqanon party.
 
 
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9:11 PM
The inauguration is tomorrow, right?
 
9:25 PM
@Nzall indeed
 
10:04 PM
My Green-Zone coworker just now reported: "New low-flying helicopter hovering for the past 15 minutes or so."
 
10:37 PM
let's see...
I got 2 helicopters inside the 15 mile ring and 3 inside the 30 mile ring around DC
Flights within 15 miles are restricted to: 1) governmental flights 2) scheduled commercial flights in and out of Ronald Reagan Airport 3) Flights with specific TSA and FAA authorization
Though it sounds like the waivers are not terrifically uncommon since there are 3 general aviation airports in the area
And yeah here we go, I have callsigns 72057 and N98CL. 98CL appears to be NBC. 72057 is registered as 08-72057 US Army, Camp Springs, Maryland
Oh there's an account for this twitter.com/HelicoptersofDC
you also get only one guess as to what kind of missions N111TV, also seen in the area recently, run
 

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