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Unionhawk
Unionhawk
2:04 AM
what
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
2:41 AM
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
3:09 AM
@Stormblessed Afaik he never has
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
3:21 AM
@Unionhawk oh
@Unionhawk speaking of which is the DSA pro-BDS or more just anti-anti-?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@Stormblessed Pro, 2017 convention resolutions 7&8:
> 1. Democratic Socialists of America declares itself in solidarity with Palestinian civil society’s nonviolent
struggle against apartheid, colonialism, military occupation and for equality, human rights, and
self-determination.
2. Democratic Socialists of America responds to Palestinian Civil Society’s call by fully supporting BDS.
3. Democratic Socialists of America affirms that any political solution to the ongoing crisis must be premised
on the realization of basic human rights, including all rights outlined in the BDS call.
(passed with amendments, the amendment was to merge the two into this)
I don't know what the original split was
(maybe a resolution of full support and a resolution of opposition of anti bds laws)
 
 
10 hours later…
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
1:40 PM
The Boomerest Administration
Also Justice Clarence Thomas's wife is checks notes advocating for the purge, so that's cool
I know like, spouses aren't responsible for what the other one does, but I personally would request, if I were a Supreme Court Justice, that my wife not advocate for the purge
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
Ontario provincial police have started removing the pipeline protestors cbc.ca/news/politics/…
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
If you live in California, early voting has already begun. You can find more information through this ad twitter.com/electrolemon/status/1231649511098839040
 
Elva
Elva
2:30 PM
@TimStone a purge of the american government? :o
Sounds like a good idea!
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@Elva The "Deep State"
She wants to make David Clarke, the former sheriff who let someone die of thirst in his prison, head of Homeland Security among other things
 
BradC
BradC
3:24 PM
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
@TimStone On the flip side, if I were a Supreme Court Justice's spouse, I would personally request that my significant other do literally the opposite of whatever Clarence Thomas does.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
RCMP in British Columbia moved its officers out of an outpost on Wet'suwet'en territory to a nearby detachment on Friday, but won't stop patrolling the area — a move that partially addresses a demand set by the nation's hereditary chiefs late last week. cbc.ca/news/politics/…
 
 
1 hour later…
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
4:40 PM
A verdict has been reached in Harvey Weinstein's trial
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
@TimStone Based on what I heard over the weekend, I'm guessing not good news.
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@TimStone Don't leave us hanging
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
They haven't announced what it is yet
The jury was just hung up but informed the judge that they have reached a verdict
Hold for details please
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
oh wow
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Convicted on 2 of 5 counts. Found guilty of rape in the 3rd degree & criminal sexual assault in the 1st degree
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
4:45 PM
I take it those were not the most serious charges?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Correct
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
Also, this was just the first set of charges, right?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
 
BradC
BradC
@TimStone that's.... not what that that implies
NBC article is up, might have been pre-written:
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I just copied it because it was part of the tweet but I guess it's kind of complicated? They didn't definitely not believe her but at least someone wasn't sure if they definitely believed her?
 
BradC
BradC
4:54 PM
> The jury in New York convicted Weinstein, 67, of third-degree rape against former aspiring actress Jessica Mann, as well as a count of criminal sexual act in the first-degree against former production assistant Mimi Haley. But the jury found him not guilty on the two most serious counts, predatory sexual assault, as well as a count of first-degree rape against Mann.
@TimStone yeah, not convicting on a count doesn't necessarily imply "jury did not believe her"
I mean, maybe they didn't, but that's not the only possible explanation
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Yeah it is just "they arrived somewhere below beyond a reasonable doubt"
 
BradC
BradC
@Unionhawk Exactly.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
There's like 50 miles between "definitely didn't happen" and "definitely happened beyond a reasonable doubt"
 
BradC
BradC
BTW, ignore everyone speculating about sentence so far.
(Until I see @popehat weigh in)
Don't forget, this is only the first trial:
> The end of the New York trial does not spell the end of legal action against Weinstein. He also faces a sex crimes case in Los Angeles, where he is charged with raping one woman and sexually assaulting another in separate incidents on two consecutive days in 2013. He has yet to enter a plea in that case.
> I don't know how much time Weinstein could, realistically, get, because although I am a criminal defense attorney I am not a New York criminal law practitioner. There. See how easy that is?
lol
> That cheering you hear is the sound of female journalists finally being able to drop the "alleged" before "rapist Harvey Weinstein" in their columns. - @JessicaValenti
 
BradC
BradC
5:18 PM
@ScottGreenfield weighs in on sentencing:
> Rape 3 Class E Non-violent felony, punishable by probation to 1 1/3- 4 years in prison.
> Criminal Sexual Assault 1 Class B Violent Felony, punishable by determinate sentence, max 5-25 years in prison.
in follow-up questions, he explains that 5 years is the mandatory minimum for the second count; not discretionary
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
> A guy from Miami traveled to China and developed flu-like symptoms when he got home. Got tested for flu, which he had, and Coronoavirus, which he didn't. He got "unwelcome news in the form of a notice from his insurance company about a claim for $3,270." t.co/NPVFzLM3vT
3
it's probably good that our health finance system discourages people from going to the doctor to check out that cough or whatever during a pandemic
Oh neat from the Yale study: "Improvements in system efficiency, such as reductions in billing tasks, will involve a contraction of the workforce.... detailed transition plans have suggested either funding for early retirement options, extensive severance, retraining programmes, and relocation expenses for all [nearly 1.5 million] workers in these sectors. Implementation of such a plan is estimated to cost $61.5B over 2 years, a sum which would be recouped within the first year
we can literally pay everyone in the industry 2 years severance, and it still costs less
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
6:08 PM
Also, Harvey faces up to 25 years in prison, which is basically a life sentence considering his age.
 
GnomeSlice
GnomeSlice
6:20 PM
Mars is seismically active
According to new findings
 
BradC
BradC
6:32 PM
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
> Per CNN's @AaronCooperNYC and @Lauren_delvalle, "Weinstein was helped out of the courtroom by court security. He didn't take the walker with him."
 
BradC
BradC
@Yuuki Yep, he will stay in custody pending any appeal
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
@BradC That's a lot of percents.
 
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
Each voter can be impressed by more than one candidate
 
BradC
BradC
@Yuuki lol. I don't think it was a "who impressed you, pick one", it was probably "for each of the following candidates, who impressed you with their debate performance"
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
6:46 PM
I figured but it's not like misleading graphics and visualizations are a rarity in news.
I wonder if there's a better visualization than a bar chart for that kind of data though.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I meaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
> Breaking news: Bloomberg campaign office in Flint, MI defaced with sign "Eat the Rich" but this time in gel pen and bedazzled with glitter.
> Addendum: Smaller sign "there, you got better" appears below
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
lol I didn't realise it was a whole thread, my god
 
BradC
BradC
@TimStone yep. I was going to object to "poster hung up at Bloomberg campaign location" being characterized as it being "vandalized"
but yeah, some of the other pics are actual spray paint
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
6:55 PM
o7 died in the name of science
 
BradC
BradC
 
BradC
BradC
7:29 PM
> New: Los Angeles prosecutors are moving forward with their separate case against Weinstein—which could include a more expansive group of witnesses and lead to greater sentencing exposure. Paul Thompson, the LA Deputy District Attorney, tells me: “We are definitely proceeding.” - @RonanFarrow
> ‘They fucked me, Paul, they fucked me. First, they destroyed my business. Now they’re coming after me.’ Andy Khawaja believes he’s being persecuted because of what he knows. And what he knows, he tells me, is that Saudi Arabia and the Emirate of Abu Dhabi bought the 2016 election for Donald Trump.
(This is important reporting, but not brand new. Seth Abramson's book, Proof of Conspiracy is, in large part, about this.)
> Khawaja claims the Saudis and the Emiratis illegally paid tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars to the Trump campaign in 2016. He says that to keep it secret, they disguised the money as small donations from Americans, using stolen identities and ‘virtual credit cards’ or gift cards — donations of less than $200 do not have to be reported to the Federal Election Commission and made public.
> He claims the Saudis and the Emiratis were able to make thousands of such small donations at a time using the latest payment processing technology. Khawaja knows this, he says, because he sold the know-how to their middleman, George Nader, who will be the central character in this story.
Seth's (relatively brief) thread on this article: twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1232017843476205581
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
7:51 PM
Bringing a loaded AR-15 into the chamber to make a supposed point about concealed handgun carry is uhhh…something
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
"See, judge, anyone could easily shoot you in the face right with this loaded rifle."
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
 
BradC
BradC
8:11 PM
@TimStone kind of boggling that it was possible before to sentence a child to life without parole
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Indeed!
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@BradC the US is one of the few developed countries that has any kind of life sentence without a chance for parole. In Canada, we have the shorthand 25 to life, meaning it's a life sentence, but there's a chance for parole after 25 years.
 
BradC
BradC
@MBraedley even for adult offenders, correct?
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
There is no life sentence for young offenders
 
BradC
BradC
@MBraedley as it should be.
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
8:21 PM
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@TimStone wait that isn't even vandalism someone just taped a sign to your wall
like I'll give you the ones upthread mike but come on
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
8:33 PM
NV now 100% reporting, Sanders 46.8%, Biden 20.2%, Buttigieg 14.3%, Warren 9.7%. By delegates, Sanders 24, Biden 9, Buttigieg 3, Warren 0
Pete recieved 3 congressional district delegates and 0 state delegates, as he was not viable statewide.
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
And with these results, 538 has given Sanders better than 50-50 odds of winning the nomination, albeit with a contested convention.
No wait, that forecast is for half the pledged delegates, so no contested convention.
We might have this all but wrapped up on Super Tuesday.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
That is correct, "no one" is contested convention
not nobody is president abolish the presidency
 
BradC
BradC
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
The second graph only has him with a plurality of delegates though, which is why I thought what I said originally was correct.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@MBraedley I believe the superdelegates go to the one with a plurality, so a plurality of pledged around 100 off a majority is a dnc majority maybe?
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
8:44 PM
Insert past comment about superdelegates not being so super.
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
> Thomas has recently been quite vocal in advocating for the court to overturn a variety of precedents, saying in one opinion last year that when "faced with a demonstrably erroneous precedent, my rule is simple: We should not follow it."
cough cough Obergefell v. Hodges cough
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Thomas has a really fascinating history of building his own jurisprudence
It's truly something
 
BradC
BradC
yep, the new extreme right majority on SCOTUS is on the verge of overturning both some recent progressive court victories as well as a number of well-established foundational judicial principles; just pending the correct cases making it to the court.
Go back and read Robert's dissent to Obergefell; he is livid; practically foaming at the mouth. If he can find a way to do it without appearing too partisan, he would 100% absolutely overturn it if the opportunity arises.
Same thing is true for not only Roe v Wade, but for Griswold v Connecticut, which is the contraception case that enshrined the principles upheld by Roe
> Griswold v. Connecticut is among the most indefensible bits of jurisprudential acrobatics in the entire American legal tradition. And a good portion of the other rulings that could possibly challenge it for that dishonor are those later decisions — Roe v. Wade is the prime example — that cite the supposed “right to privacy” that the Court invented out of thin air in order to justify its ruling in Griswold.
This is the world in which the far-right justices live, and the principles with which they agree
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
9:01 PM
Of the rights that the Court has invented out of thin air, I think I like the right to privacy more than corporate citizenship or whatever you call DC v. Heller individual gun rights.
So if we're going to get rid of privacy because it was "invented", we should revoke Citizens United and DC v. Heller.
 
BradC
BradC
@Yuuki Right, its not "I object to courts reading rights into law", its "I object to courts reading rights that I don't agree with into law"
I don't have the reference handy, but a persuasive case can be made that the "right to privacy" is a natural extension of prior case law. The "invented out of whole cloth" is a right-wing objection that we shouldn't concede
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
In a 4-1 decision, the Court of Appeal of Alberta has found the the federal government's Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act to be unconstitutional as it poses unlimited intrusion on provincial jurisdiction. cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/…
Of course
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
@Wipqozn Ah, so the opposite of the case in Dallas.
tl;dr state sued a Dallas jurisdiction for banning fracking on the basis that state should override local
(ignoring the whole 'state should override federal' hubbub when an anti-anti-fracking statute was being discussed)
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
9:30 PM
@Wipqozn I'm guessing the basis of the ruling was section 92A, subsections 1 and 4, which deal with natural resources and the raising of money in respect of non-renewable resources and electricity generation, but section 91 subsection 2 gives the federal government the exclusive authority over The Regulation of Trade and Commerce, so I think this decision will be overturned.
Stay tuned for the Supreme Court battle, which will be much less dramatic than any SCOTUS battle.
 
BradC
BradC
9:49 PM
 
BradC
BradC
10:16 PM
Yet another reason to support Warren
> "The left is arising. The progressive movement is just as scary," he says. "Elizabeth Warren on one side. And whoever you want to pick on the Republicans on the right side?"
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
Also, another reason to shove Bloomberg into the sea.
However, it seems like he might prefer your stomach.
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
10:52 PM
@BradC for my mum even with the guilty charges she doesn't believe the women. thinking they "should have had more pride in themselves and said no" and not "continue working with him and going to his parties" and conflating how the Kardashians, those girls from Geordie/Jersey Shore act and dress and the more revealing outfits they wear on the red carpet as being what they wore when Weinstein assaulted them saying they shouldn't have dressed like that
like it disgusts me how my mum is victim blaming them
@Wipqozn queue the conspiracy theories
also don't know what would have changed if he did do it. you show flat earthers images taken from space of the planet, they still say it's flat because you see a circle, not a sphere
 
Yuuki
Yuuki
They sphere that which they cannot understand.
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
lol
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
11:55 PM
@MBraedley Oh it will. Every other Canadian court has sided with the feds on this.
 

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