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6:07 AM
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6:38 AM
The answers to the question over on the Skeptics tour are still shown as short and note that their question is only 322 or 456 (depending on whether you count the link or not) long. I'm guessing if the question would've been longer, it would be shown in the same way as the answers: Cut short. This wouldn't solve anything with regards to sending a clear message on question quality or good subjective answers. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 25 secs ago
#3674 Tinkeringbell (22275 rep) | A: What should we do about the example "unicorn" question in the tour page? (score: -1) | posted 2 hours ago by gparyani (834 rep) | Toxicity 0.22940363 | tps/fps: 0/0
@gparyani The answers to the question over on the Skeptics tour are still shown as short and note that their question is only 322 or 456 (depending on whether you count the link or not) long. I'm guessing if the question would've been longer, it would be shown in the same way as the answers: Cut short. This wouldn't solve anything with regards to sending a clear message on question quality or good subjective answers. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 32 secs ago
#3669 Tinkeringbell (22275 rep) | A: What should we do about the example "unicorn" question in the tour page? (score: 0) | posted 33 hours ago by Em C (9922 rep) | edited 10 hours ago by Em C (9922 rep) | Toxicity 0.2270937 | tps/fps: 0/0
@gparyani The answers to the question over on the Skeptics tour are still shown as short and note that their question is only 322 or 456 (depending on whether you count the link or not) long. I'm guessing if the question would've been longer, it would be shown in the same way as the answers: Cut short. This wouldn't solve anything with regards to sending a clear message on question quality or good subjective answers. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 39 secs ago
#3668 Tinkeringbell (22275 rep) | A: What should we do about the example "unicorn" question in the tour page? (score: 2) | posted 34 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (22275 rep) | edited 10 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (22275 rep) | Toxicity 0.2270937 | tps/f
 
7:06 AM
So you would approach it more or less like writing an essay: first a summary, then a more detailed explanation. That sounds like a very good compromise/fusion out of both approaches. Thanks! — ahemmetter 1 min ago
#21767 ahemmetter (126 rep) | A: In what direction should I explain a topic that requires in-depth knowledge to understand? (score: 5) | posted 3 days ago by Rainbacon (4444 rep) | edited 2 days ago by Rainbacon (4444 rep) | Toxicity 0.026321871 | tps/fps: 0/0
 
7:33 AM
@ooOOooK as Em said, there's still a lot of info missing. I also don't see any answer to my questions in your comment directed to me. Can you please answer them truthfully? — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago
#21803 Tinkeringbell (22275 rep) | Q: Politely decline giving personal information in a conversation (score: -2) | posted 11 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | edited 9 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | Toxicity 0.07409076 | tps/fps: 0/0
Am I being penalized because of my life experience with a spendthrift issue? — ooOOooK 44 secs ago
#21804 ooOOooK (393 rep) | A: How can I get my wife to be less spendthrift? (score: -3) | posted 11 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | Toxicity 0.16248168 | tps/fps: 0/0
@DaveG cash payments without receipt are harder to get refunded. Some lines of credit require signing a contract, which have penalties in the case of cancellation. So, yes, it matters. — ooOOooK 1 min ago
#21770 ooOOooK (393 rep) | Q: How can I get my wife to be less spendthrift? (score: 7) | posted 3 days ago by NiceGuy (41 rep) | edited 3 days ago by Ælis (6124 rep) | Toxicity 0.07590543 | tps/fps: 0/0
@avazula removed the part against the rules. I guess field experience never give you enough credit to tell them a 'you could try this' unless you have that exact specific situation in your portfolio, is it? — ooOOooK 53 secs ago
#21802 ooOOooK (393 rep) | A: Seeking closure over someone I have unblocked but whom I learned have passed on (score: -2) | posted 11 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | edited 2 minutes ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | Toxicity 0.12342312 | tps/fps: 0/0
Hi, welcome on ips! I'm sorry but we can't answer whether you would be able to report this to the police, as it's off topic here. However, if you're willing to go see the boss of the restaurant, we may be able to tell you how to do it politely. Let us know, so that we can help you edit your question. Enjoy your time among us! — avazula 1 min ago
#21806 avazula (8510 rep) | Q: Incident at Indian restaurant Tanjore in Harvard Square Boston (score: 0) | posted 43 minutes ago by Aritro Pathak (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.07246488 | tps/fps: 0/0
Being physically threatened is not something that can lead to a complaint to the police? — Aritro Pathak 52 secs ago
#21806 Aritro Pathak (101 rep) | Q: Incident at Indian restaurant Tanjore in Harvard Square Boston (score: 0) | posted 44 minutes ago by Aritro Pathak (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.109345 | tps/fps: 0/0
Of course it is. But on IPS, asking whether you may or may not go to the police is off topic. — avazula 52 secs ago
#21806 avazula (8510 rep) | Q: Incident at Indian restaurant Tanjore in Harvard Square Boston (score: 0) | posted 47 minutes ago by Aritro Pathak (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.090823874 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["experimental-aic(@scohe001)"]
@Tinkeringbell I did, but your choice of adjectives warns me of a certain adversarial stance from your side. Not that I haven't noticed, but I have given you the benefit of doubt. I have the impression that you feel involved somehow. While I do not understand your goal in such actions, I would be very grateful if you'd please stand back and kindly desisted from badgering me any further. — ooOOooK 1 min ago
#21803 ooOOooK (393 rep) | Q: Politely decline giving personal information in a conversation (score: -2) | posted 12 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | edited 4 minutes ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | Toxicity 0.29098228 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic"]
@EmC added a relevant section. — ooOOooK just now
#21803 ooOOooK (393 rep) | Q: Politely decline giving personal information in a conversation (score: -2) | posted 12 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | edited 13 minutes ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | Toxicity 0.08700265 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["short-comment"]
When travelling e.g. India, you always need to be a bit aware of possible scams and robbers. Telling everyone you're from one of the richest country in the world might give ideas to thieves. It might explain some of the hesitation "should I tell the truth? How much can I trust this person?" — Legisey 2 mins ago
#1593 Legisey (1685 rep) | A: Is it rude to ask tourists where they are from? (score: 11) | posted 648 days ago by Raditz_35 (239 rep) | edited 648 days ago by NVZ (9622 rep) | Toxicity 0.50341356 | Comment on inactive post | tps/fps: 0/0
 
8:33 AM
With no way for us to make sure you are telling the truth, please remove all identifiable information. You don't need names in here to ask the question. — nvoigt 6 secs ago
#21806 nvoigt (637 rep) | Q: Incident at Indian restaurant Tanjore in Harvard Square Boston (score: 0) | posted 1 hours ago by Aritro Pathak (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.19421826 | tps/fps: 0/0
@AritroPathak Interpersonal Skills are behaviours you use to interact with people, to achieve a certain goal. Questions should focus on your behaviour and what you'd like to achieve with it. Right now, your question seems more like a legal one, where you're asking us whether or not such a police report could be made and would make sense. That's sadly just not something we can help you with... — Tinkeringbell ♦ 55 secs ago
#21806 Tinkeringbell (22275 rep) | Q: Incident at Indian restaurant Tanjore in Harvard Square Boston (score: 0) | posted 1 hours ago by Aritro Pathak (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.10324161 | tps/fps: 0/0
 
8:59 AM
Welcome to IPS! We expect from answer here to provide some back up as too why they are suggesting what they are suggesting. So, were you in a similar situation in the past where you did that and the other person wasn't made? Or do you have some external sources to back this up? Also, please take a look at your faq about answers and the back up we expectÆlis 27 secs ago
#21807 Ælis (6128 rep) | A: Contacting a friend when I haven't heard from them in weeks (score: 0) | posted 6 minutes ago by Crane (9 rep) | Toxicity 0.1017326 | tps/fps: 0/0
Could you give an example for the email? Especially, what do you mean by "don't tell them what they will have"? Is it strictly about food and drinks? Or also activities? I would be quite worried to go to a party with coworkers (even informal) if there is a mysterious "fun" activity (karaoke? costumes?...). I would lean towards a more informative but still fun email. — Taladris 39 secs ago
#21694 Taladris (801 rep) | A: How to invite my colleagues to an at-home goodbye party when they usually organize them in a bar? (score: 2) | posted 11 days ago by OldPadawan (15935 rep) | Toxicity 0.09055032 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]
 
9:37 AM
I feel like I am that friend sometimes. I sometimes get bored of a game or a community i am involved with and i start appearing rarer and rarer until I quit altogether. I just cant make myself quit if anyone asks me to stay so i have to break it abruptly. Because of the latter i also hate it when someone finds me again to ask if I want to get back, as I love everyone unconditionally and cant tell no to them. Therefore when someone I know from another place finds me I get a lot of stress and often "play dead", so maybe it's best to not look for people online if they dont give you contacts first — IcedLance 19 secs ago
#21805 IcedLance (71 rep) | Q: Contacting a friend when I haven't heard from them in weeks (score: 3) | posted 11 hours ago by Termatinator (591 rep) | Toxicity 0.16827267 | tps/fps: 0/0
+1 The playlist is very interesting and nicely illustrates how to distill and break down the essential content of what you want to explain. — ahemmetter 1 min ago
#21764 ahemmetter (128 rep) | A: In what direction should I explain a topic that requires in-depth knowledge to understand? (score: 3) | posted 4 days ago by SZCZERZO KŁY (1590 rep) | edited 3 days ago by SZCZERZO KŁY (1590 rep) | Toxicity 0.051219907 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["+1"]
@IcedLance he already friended me on facebook though, so we already had multiple connections — Termatinator 43 secs ago
#21805 Termatinator (591 rep) | Q: Contacting a friend when I haven't heard from them in weeks (score: 3) | posted 11 hours ago by Termatinator (591 rep) | Toxicity 0.07837933 | tps/fps: 0/0
Yes, I would consider that "getting contacts" (was going to write about it but hit character limit), I just thought I'd comment on a more general situation. — IcedLance 15 secs ago
#21805 IcedLance (71 rep) | Q: Contacting a friend when I haven't heard from them in weeks (score: 3) | posted 11 hours ago by Termatinator (591 rep) | Toxicity 0.15378308 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic"]
 
10:37 AM
@ooOOooK I had a wife like the OP's. Getting a refund isn't the issue. The issue is dealing with the wife. — DaveG 1 min ago
#21770 DaveG (5093 rep) | Q: How can I get my wife to be less spendthrift? (score: 7) | posted 3 days ago by NiceGuy (41 rep) | edited 3 days ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.3188447 | tps/fps: 0/0
My ex-wife was #3: she didn't care, I was the cash cow. Divorce was the answer. — DaveG 57 secs ago
#21792 DaveG (5093 rep) | A: How can I get my wife to be less spendthrift? (score: 7) | posted 24 hours ago by MlleMei (1222 rep) | edited 24 hours ago by MlleMei (1222 rep) | Toxicity 0.3010024 | tps/fps: 0/0
 
 
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1:11 PM
@Raskkii Because, when you don't say anything, people might think you agree with what is being said (it might be specific to French culture) — Ælis 34 secs ago
#21808 Ælis (6126 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.1833287 | tps/fps: 0/0
What makes you think Alex would think you agreed with Bob's views? — Raskkii 1 min ago
#21808 Raskkii (394 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.1282619 | tps/fps: 0/0
So, if I understand correctly Alex has not yet given any signs of thinking you agree with Bob's views, but you're afraid he thinks that of you nonetheless so you want to approach this differently next time something similar happens? This is not about explaining to Alex now (after the fact) that 'hey, there was Bob having this conversation and I don't agree with it'? Do you think Alex shares Bob views? — Tinkeringbell ♦ 35 secs ago
#21808 Tinkeringbell (22285 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 11 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | edited 6 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.12847711 | tps/fps: 0/0
Could surely be specific to french culture. I for my part always assume that as long as you are not a part of the conversation, you simply don't care or are not interested. The point where I might think that you share these views, is when you are in a conversation with said person and don't say anthing against it or have your own opinion. That being said, should the answer be limited to france or a widely accepted solution? — XtremeBaumer 1 min ago
#21808 XtremeBaumer (2116 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 11 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | edited 6 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.12973174 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic(@Noon)"]
@Tinkeringbell I don't think Alex share Bob views. And yes, I don't want to explain to Alex, after the fact, that I don't share Bob view. I want Alex to know that during the facts. — Ælis 28 secs ago
#21808 Ælis (6126 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 14 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | edited 10 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.13179643 | tps/fps: 0/0
@XtremeBaumer I don't think answers need to be limited to France. — Ælis 53 secs ago
#21808 Ælis (6126 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 15 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | edited 11 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.50053537 | tps/fps: 0/0
Would you be willing to strike up a conversation about the topic with Alex? — XtremeBaumer 1 min ago
#21808 XtremeBaumer (2116 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 18 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | edited 2 minutes ago by XtremeBaumer (2116 rep) | Toxicity 0.08650955 | tps/fps: 0/0
@XtremeBaumer I would rather not (because that would probably be a tiring conversation too and I don't want that) — Ælis 55 secs ago
#21808 Ælis (6126 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 21 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | edited 2 minutes ago by Ælis (6126 rep) | Toxicity 0.18739617 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic"]
I think the downvotes on your post (not on you) are because it does not offer a solution for the OP — Rory Alsop 1 min ago
#21804 Rory Alsop (3149 rep) | A: How can I get my wife to be less spendthrift? (score: -3) | posted 17 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | Toxicity 0.0759104 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]
@ooOOooK we're not that much interested in 'that something similar happened to you', but in 'what you tried in those circumstances and especially how that turned out', as our citation expectations also clearly state. Telling someone 'they could try X' is never useful if you don't have experience trying X and can describe its outcome. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago
#21802 Tinkeringbell (22285 rep) | A: Seeking closure over someone I have unblocked but whom I learned have passed on (score: -2) | posted 17 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | edited 5 hours ago by ooOOooK (393 rep) | Toxicity 0.120616816 | tps/fps: 0/0
 
1:53 PM
She is either extremely careless, or something else is going on. When this behavior start? — Edwin Lambregts 8 secs ago
#21766 Edwin Lambregts (101 rep) | Q: How can I tell my wife to pay more attention to everything without sounding condescending or rude? (score: 0) | posted 4 days ago by workoverflow (131 rep) | edited 3 days ago by Rainbacon (4471 rep) | Toxicity 0.27730668 | tps/fps: 0/0
Hey Martin, welcome to IPS! I'm sorry to hear that you're having trouble with dating, I've been there and it's not fun. Unfortunately, asking whether or not rejection is normal is too opinion based for this site. We try to focus on questions with actionable goals related to interpersonal interactions. While we can't tell you if your situation is normal, we could help you with your communication skills if you'd like. — Rainbacon just now
#21809 Rainbacon (4471 rep) | Q: Is it normal to be rejected by girls 99 of 100 times (score: -1) | posted 5 minutes ago by Martin S (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.11661624 | tps/fps: 0/0
I'm from Belgium (so not really France, but close), and to me someone being silent doesn't mean they agree, especially on loaded subjects like politics. Many people decide to keep their views to themselves on this kind of subject in work places to avoid conflict. So I wouldn't worry too much about it. Also, what makes you think Alex doesn't share Bob's views ? — MlleMei 1 min ago
#21808 MlleMei (1232 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 57 minutes ago by Ælis (6127 rep) | edited 31 minutes ago by Ælis (6127 rep) | Toxicity 0.08844802 | tps/fps: 0/0
Sorry but it seems to me the edit is essentially saying "any reaction, any type of person, any location" - this doesn't make your question any less broad. As per the on-topic page, "Questions must be specific enough to be answered... we require that questions be specific - and preferably that they relate to a situation you are actually in." Another resource for understanding question requirements is How do I write a good question?. — Em C ♦ 55 secs ago
#21803 Em C (9922 rep) | Q: Politely decline giving personal information in a conversation (score: -2) | posted 18 hours ago by ooOOooK (397 rep) | edited 6 hours ago by ooOOooK (397 rep) | Toxicity 0.12001234 | tps/fps: 0/0
 
2:29 PM
I have problem with this as I don't think you can rate people on okcupid. apart from "pass/like". with the third option "no interaction". But If I read that correcty it would say that okc women users state there is NONE "most attractive" male users? Which kinda make the whole pool worthless because then that 2% would be most attractive. You kind a benchmark. And that benchmark would/should be in that 0%. — SZCZERZO KŁY 1 min ago
#21809 SZCZERZO KŁY (1590 rep) | Q: Is it normal to be rejected by girls 99 of 100 times (score: -4) | posted 36 minutes ago by Martin S (1 rep) | edited 19 minutes ago by Martin S (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.44618303 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic(@Noon)"]
I France, we have the "extreme right" and the "extreme left" and people don't seem to care about being called "extreme". — Ælis 1 min ago
#21810 Ælis (6127 rep) | A: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 9 minutes ago by baldPrussian (24795 rep) | Toxicity 0.5699503 | tps/fps: 0/0
If the OP is intending to edit this question to be re-opened, please add a link to wherever those graphs are from. Alone they do not contain enough information to be interpretable. Also, please include a bit more detail about how you are approaching women on these sites-- it's very unlikely to be 100% due to your profile photo over a decade. More information on how you go about trying to get dates, or interact with potential dates more generally, would be very helpful. — Upper_Case 1 min ago
#21809 Upper_Case (13388 rep) | Q: Is it normal to be rejected by girls 99 of 100 times (score: -3) | posted 45 minutes ago by Martin S (6 rep) | edited 28 minutes ago by Martin S (6 rep) | Toxicity 0.0653859 | tps/fps: 0/0
Also, I'm not sure I understand your advice. Are you saying that I should just ignore Bob (who is sitting near me) and then turn to Alex in order to tell them, out of the blue, "Bob's a good guy; we just look at this differently"? — Ælis 1 min ago
#21810 Ælis (6127 rep) | A: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 0) | posted 14 minutes ago by baldPrussian (24795 rep) | Toxicity 0.09261574 | tps/fps: 0/0
You can report anything you want to the police, but I'm not sure what you expect to happen as a result in this case. — Upper_Case 1 min ago
#21806 Upper_Case (13388 rep) | Q: Incident at Indian restaurant in Boston (score: -3) | posted 7 hours ago by Aritro Pathak (95 rep) | edited 6 hours ago by nvoigt (639 rep) | Toxicity 0.18432009 | tps/fps: 0/0
I remember that on Tinder most men get the right swipe only 0.5 to 2% while average right swipe rare for women is about 80%. It is true that dating is very hard for men and that is the truth feminists never admit and correct. How about going for the different race? White men are the most popular and have strong advantages on interracial dating, especially with Asian women (many researches support it). — Blaszard 48 secs ago
#21809 Blaszard (1022 rep) | Q: Is it normal to be rejected by girls 99 of 100 times (score: -4) | posted 51 minutes ago by Martin S (4 rep) | edited 34 minutes ago by Martin S (4 rep) | Toxicity 0.2554603 | tps/fps: 0/0
 
3:00 PM
Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were communicating to Alex. Either way, the response can be the same: to be decent to Bob and just politely say you don't share views. When Bob spouts off, that's when you offer him grace and just say "we don't agree" but don't let it go farther than that. You want to make the point that you don't share his views; you're not looking to change them. — baldPrussian 1 min ago
#21810 baldPrussian (24805 rep) | A: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 1) | posted 37 minutes ago by baldPrussian (24805 rep) | Toxicity 0.25213304 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]
That's more or less what I did with Bob. Then I stop communicating with anyone and then Alex entered the kitchen. What I want is to don't let Alex think that, since I am not saying anything, I agree with Bob. — Ælis 1 min ago
#21810 Ælis (6138 rep) | A: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 1) | posted 40 minutes ago by baldPrussian (24805 rep) | Toxicity 0.2556059 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]
Why does this need to be done in the moment? Is there a specific reason that talking to Alex later is undesirable or counterproductive? — Upper_Case 23 secs ago
#21808 Upper_Case (13388 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 2) | posted 2 hours ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | edited 44 minutes ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | Toxicity 0.1186214 | tps/fps: 0/0
@Upper_Case I only see Alex when we are having lunch. I believe coming back to this later would be weird. — Ælis 23 secs ago
#21808 Ælis (6137 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 2) | posted 2 hours ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | edited 45 minutes ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | Toxicity 0.1065146 | tps/fps: 0/0
@Upper_Case I would rather do it in the moment to not have that bothering me all day — Ælis 31 secs ago
#21808 Ælis (6137 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 2) | posted 2 hours ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | edited 48 minutes ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | Toxicity 0.23651198 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic"]
If you only see each other at lunch, it may well be weird to do after the fact. But if it were also weird to do in the moment, would you have a preference between the two? — Upper_Case 1 min ago
#21808 Upper_Case (13388 rep) | Q: How to let other coworkers know that I don't share my coworker political views? (score: 2) | posted 2 hours ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | edited 48 minutes ago by Ælis (6137 rep) | Toxicity 0.06532484 | tps/fps: 0/0
 

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