@Pandya There are no contradictions between Tantras and Upanishads. At least if Shakta Tantras are concerned. All Bhedavada doctrines are condemned in Shakta Darsanas. Advaita is the philosophy of the Shakta Tantras too.

@Pandya Don't consider words of @Rakesh as words of Agamic people. :P He comes with his "logic" everywhere. You can ask Rickross if you want to know about Agamas.

@Rickross oh! yes, actually I thought' because I mistakenly taken Rakesh words as belief of people of Agama especially when he argued with your post.

@TheDestroyer Yes, I believe @Rickross knowledgeable user especially for Agama & Dharma Shastra.

@Pandya No there is no reasons to believe so. In fact several Tantra acharyas consider the knowledge described in the Tantras and the one described in Upanishads as the same. The philosophy of Shaktism is pure Advaita.

> एकं सद्विप्रा बहुधा वदन्ति

@Rickross Btw, do you know Sanskrit?

@Pandya Yes this mantra from Rig Veda i gave recently in one of my answers.

@Pandya I can read. But i don't always understand the meaning. Sometimes i can but not always. So i read with translations.

@Rickross ok. Actually I'm looking for:

@Pandya I cud not fully understand the meanings there. Do u have translations?

@Rickross I found one but not at present. I'm still wondering for translations.

@Pandya Ok. BTW you also believe that Sruti means Samhita. Then y are u trying to prove the unprovable ? :D

@Rickross See there are three concepts I found around me:

1. Consider Samhita + Brahmanas (including Aranyaka & Upanishads ) as Veda/Shruti though only Samhita is heard by ancient Rishis in Tapasya i,e Apaurusheya -- Which I have been following

2. Only consider Samhita as Veda/Sruti -- which is introduced by Arya Samaj / Dayananda Sarasvati and I don't endorse it.

@Pandya Even Rishi Auronindo believed that Samhita is only Vedas. Otherwise we cud have linked to a Upanishad verse by notations like RIg Veda x.y.z but we don't do it right?

3. Samhita & Brahmanas (including Aranyaka & Upanishads) are Apaurusheya, Shruti & Veda!! I recently found some sustainable arguments from Purva Mimansa -- which I'm unclear about.

So, I'm currently following the 1st one.

@Pandya Ok. But many Scriptures mention Vedas and Upanishads separately while mentioning them together. How will u justify this?

I've recently found collection of Grihya Sutras but it doesn't contain of Gautama.

@Rickross Yeah. we've to check Purva Mimansa Sutras (Athato Dharma Jijnasa) for that.

@Rickross That is also notable point and that's why I always give less preference to Brahma Sutras in comparision to Upanishads.

@Pandya Yes not only Upanishads. What about Smritis Puranas etc? Suppose there is conflict between Darsana Sutras and Puranas how to resolve the issue then?

I think Puranas will override the Darsanas.

Sruti overirides Smriti, Smritis override Puranas and so on..In this list i think the Darsana Sutras will come at the last. @Pandya

@Pandya Ok i am leaving now. BYE.

@Rickross Hmm. I'll think regarding hierarchy of Puranas and Darshana Sutras.

@Rickross ok. Good Bye!