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lila
lila
2:00 AM
@Tinkeringbell I am okay, but nothing too fancy, and actually not exactly fine because I am worrying about recently elevated air pollution where I live. I hope it gets better soon because it's getting warmer and low quality people will stop heating their homes via burning garbage. And you?
@Tinkeringbell It's concerning, but please look at this:
Most recent spike in the infection rate is horrifying, just analyze the graph how absolutely concerning this whole c*vid-19 is.
 
 
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Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
7:31 AM
@lila Heh, back to posting random graphs pretending they're covid numbers, I see :P This one is good!
@Criggie What is 'go bush'? Living in the wilderness? I've done that a few times, it's fun for a week or two but then I appreciate the house/bed again :P
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
8:26 AM
In France there is currently a great plan to bring FTTH to everyone, including people living in countryside. It's expected to end around 2025, with some statistical "fat tail" tho. I'm rejoiced at the perspective I may eventually buy cheap in a quiet mid-small size town and have a very decent Internet.
One of the (few) benefits of c*vid is the effect it may have on remote work market, which make this realistic project as well.
 
avazula
avazula
I wouldn't count on that too much
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
@avazula There are precedents theverge.com/2021/2/12/22279951/… but how is going to be the movement is uncertain.
 
avazula
avazula
In my city (400k people with countless IT companies) companies all wanted us to go back to the office at least 4 days a week after first lockdown. I had to fight beak and nails to get a 2 days a week WFH accommodation
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
I don't expect remote to be the new norm, the idea is more that it may influence a minority that is big enough to have an impact on remote work market.
Currently we have few companies that offer remote, and many of them are reluctant to hire from France
 
avazula
avazula
Oh okay, I see what you mean
Yeah I've noticed a similar trend recently. French workers (and engineers even more) are interesting for many companies, but only if they already are living in the country the company is based in
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
8:47 AM
Yea. I suspect the problem is often our local, protective labor laws, that are reputed restrictive. Gitlab mentioned not recruiting from France, invoking general and broad "variety of (legal) reasons" about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-group/employment-solutions/… I have no idea how is this going to change in the future but employers abroad and for remote work don't seem to appreciate conditions to hire here
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
@ArthurHv sounds good but i wouldn't count on that either XD
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
@CaldeiraG Im working in the field of studies for deployment, I can say for sure it's coming but the problem is more social, it's currently employing a bunch of people for deployment and their job for a good portion is not going to persist past 2023-2025
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
9:11 AM
@ArthurHv i see :)
 
Criggie
Criggie
9:24 AM
@Tinkeringbell yes exactly - "go upcountry" or "off the grid"
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ArthurHv I'm helping you hope. Remote work has a whole bunch of benefits, and I hope our company will stick to recognizing those. I'm afraid prolonged periods of not being in an office at all are already warping memories here, so people want to go back to how things used to be just because they miss the free coffee and the 10 minutes of talk there, and are kinda romanticising that.
 
Criggie
Criggie
even just living away from other people, owning a large block of land with your home in the middle.
I miss the hot cooked lunches work provided every day
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Criggie Meh. I'm a bit too used to having a grocery store nearby (and too chaotic to not need last minute shopping) ;)
But it sounds very nice otherwise!
@Criggie I don't really 'miss' anything, to be honest. Sure, having coffee with a coworker is nice, but chatting for a few minutes over Teams is just the same. The offerings for lunch at work were nice, but so is lunch at home....
The only thing that has really improved is that I'm now no longer bound to busses and trains, so it's easier for me to be a bit flexible with my 8 hours of work and it saves me a lot of travel time.... but travel time is one of those things I don't miss XD
 
Criggie
Criggie
I would be happy to drive for an hour, once a month, and do a big shop. But I'd really miss decent internet. Starlink may be a useful thing in the future - here's an example of the effect it could have on the rural - youtube.com/watch?v=MlM-SXQYdPQ&t=618s
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Isn't Starlink at the moment still very expensive for very little quality?
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
9:30 AM
I think people mix covid and remote altogether in their evaluation. Of course, in normal times, we would also hang out between colleagues from time to time, remote workers or not.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ArthurHv That too. I think it makes a whole lot of difference too if people can actually use their extra free time as they like (going out for dinners, hanging out outside a restaurant, go do whatever sports you like...) instead of having work and ... nothing.
I've always had hobbies that let me stay home, so for me it's not too bad, this is a massive improvement. But I know the coworkers that have different hobbies are really romanticizing office work rn.
@Criggie I would not survive a 'once a month' shopping trip XD
(Just because of simple things like fresh vegetables )
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
9:44 AM
@Tinkeringbell 500€ upfront fee for the antenna and then 99€/m for starlink
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Yeah, no thanks XD
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
which is, if you live in rural area in america, this could actually be better than what they have rn
either DSL or something
and like $60/m
cause that only ISP controls the market
Starlink is not designed for main cities
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
We're having glas fiber internet and tv, 47,50 euro a month.
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
exactly :), why would you use satellite when cabling is already done :)
other than that, starlink speeds seem pretty good
 
Criggie
Criggie
With land, you can grow your own. Plus there are frozen veges, and you can often freeze what you grow.
(aside, don't freeze lettuce - it doesn't work)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
9:55 AM
@Criggie The plants I look at, they die.
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
:D
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
But sure, that's an option for when you have a bit more of a green thumb than me :D
 
Criggie
Criggie
@Tinkeringbell According to that-guy in the link, its "two orders of magnitude faster" than what they had.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Criggie That is nice :)
I just would never pay that much, just for internet.
 
Criggie
Criggie
That alone is worth doing even if it costs twice as much. Plus as the number of satellites increases, the reliability and speed goes up.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
9:57 AM
Then I rather have a slightly slower internet. :D If I'm browsing in my free time, I don't need it to be fast. And if my boss wants me to have faster internet well then he can pay for it :P
 
Criggie
Criggie
I work with an old greybeard who worked in the Antarctic for years. They had satellite, but it was geostationary and only about 9600 baud in the 2000s. THose sats are 36,000 km high.
Starlink specifically has some sats in polar orbits at a height of ~550 km so will be much better.
antartica is the only continent in the world without fibre
Cos there's no way to land it reliably that won't get munched by ice
I think when you have the fastest thing that is available, and it still takes hours to upload a 10 minute youtube clip, then paying more is not an option, because there is nothing more.
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
@Criggie yea
also, this is pretty cool
the speeds are nice
 
A J
A J
11:00 AM
80% of workplaces are open in my town and the remaining are going to be at the end of the next month. I doubt them getting opened for work as the Covid situation has started getting worse again.
 
 
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Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
12:10 PM
@AJ Oof :(
Better news: My mom is finally getting her vaccinations (even though she's only getting the crappy one with only 60 percent effectiveness).
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
@Tinkeringbell astrazeneca
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Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Yeah. I'm not sure why the government is even doing business with that one still. They keep overpromising and underdelivering.
Same with the Janssen vaccin.
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
12:57 PM
@Tinkeringbell agreed
it's still a vaccine i guess XD
i mean, govts want to vaccinate people fast
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Yeah, I know. It just sucks that people can't really pick which vaccine they want. I don't care if I have to wait longer. I want full protection, because of the way people are behaving when there's still a lockdown doesn't make me all that confident of the way people will behave when there's no more lockdown and they've all had lousy vaccines...
But that's just not an option, it seems I can either take the lousy vaccine or none at all
Which would mean just living the rest of my life like there's still a lockdown, with or without vaccine.
 
Arthur Hv
Arthur Hv
The lousy vaccine i a mixed blessing yes. If we suppose we find a more efficient vaccine later on there is high chances people that went through first won't vaccine again.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
That too.
 
CaldeiraG
CaldeiraG
1:23 PM
yep
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
2:12 PM
If I'm dead next week, it was because I really needed to go to the supermarket today (honestly, I should've known better and just done without fancy tea) and spent more time stuck on an aisle next to a covidiot without a mask than actually shopping.
 
 
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lila
lila
8:36 PM
@Tinkeringbell Thanx! :D
hi
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
hey
how's the air over there today?
 
lila
lila
8:55 PM
@Tinkeringbell Oh thanks for taking concern and asking about it! It rained a little and I was so relieved once I saw readings which told me air quality was deemed "good", and at that point even "moderate" would have made me happy enough \o/
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I'm curious (you don't have to share if you don't want to): Do you have any illness or condition that makes the air quality this important to you?
 
lila
lila
9:22 PM
No I don't have any, but I am still concerned because particulate matter air pollution is known to be carcinogenic, it is mainly blamed for lung cancers but particles smaller than 2.5 micrometers are tiny enough to pass all the way down to alveoli in the lungs and enter the bloodstream, increase the risk of developing cardiovascular diseases; also, they find their way to other organs, like the brain - it is suspected that they could be playing a role in the development of Alzheimer's disease.

Over 40.000 premature deaths a year in Poland are caused by this.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
9:37 PM
Yeah, being concerned is understandable either way :) Let's hope the rain and the good/moderate air lasts a while :D
 
 
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Extroverted Main Man
Extroverted Main Man
11:51 PM
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Q: How do I get my jewelry back that someone took from me and gave to someone else

BetinaA friend of mines took his mother's jewelry and gave it to a new girlfriend without his mother knowing anything about it until later. My friend asked for the jewelry back, but she refused. Since he was not the true owner of the jewelry can his mother sue the girlfriend to get it back?

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