The Awkward Silence

lila

12:36 AM

And good night.

A J

7:19 AM

Good afternoon!

#LazyMonday

Tinkeringbell

Good morning!

Journeyman Geek

rumbly noise

Tinkeringbell

7:37 AM

Someone doesn't seem to be a morning animal.

A J

Lol

Feeling sleepy

CaldeiraG

7:51 AM

Morning!

definitely not tired with the time change XD

i know it changed from saturday to sunday but feels like i slept less today

Tinkeringbell

I'm actually feeling more rested now than before the weekend. I usually adapt to wintertime really fast.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell I worked sat night, dealt with some idiocy on saturday culminating with my boss asking me if I was born in malaysia, and I''m back at work this morning.

Tinkeringbell

Blegh.

Journeyman Geek

so not a monday animal

Tinkeringbell

Okay, that's reasonable too :P

Journeyman Geek

7:56 AM

On the bright side - October is almost over

Tinkeringbell

Which is bright because? Then your free days start or?

Journeyman Geek

:D

Game release, maybe new hardware if the darned things ever get in stock ....

arbitrary passing of time, and getting closer to 2020 ending :D

CaldeiraG

:D

Tinkeringbell

I don't think 2020 ending will solve anything, it'll only make the start of 2021 that much worse :P

Journeyman Geek

:D

maybe. :D

Tinkeringbell

7:59 AM

But game release and new hardware are good!

Journeyman Geek

and cyberpunk might suck

@Tinkeringbell oh, the GPU I want is out of stock over a month globally at this point

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, I know...

Journeyman Geek

and I recently noticed newegg won't ship here

Tinkeringbell

Saw something in the Tavern about that this morning...

sucks.

Journeyman Geek

the next model down is getting released in 2 days

lol

and that apparently should be in stock, If the lack of stock is driven by demand its good but its probably actually them flubbling supply :D

(I HATE waiting ._.)

Tinkeringbell

8:02 AM

Waiting is okay for me as long as I know there's a reward in it at the end ;)

Journeyman Geek

lol

I've kinda decided which card I want but uhhh

I might pop over the PC mall when I manage to find time

Tinkeringbell

Ooh, living dangerously :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

its not like I can buy it online!

..... the distributor sells direct

so in theory I could...

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha ;)

Journeyman Geek

I wonder if I can throw together something that would inform me if the page changed :D

Tinkeringbell

8:10 AM

Oh, knowing you, you probably can ;D

Journeyman Geek

hm, I can't pull it in with w3m

Ael

8:36 AM

Morning

Tinkeringbell

o/

IPS Comment Bot

8:58 AM

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Arthur Hv

9:43 AM

Our product owner found a bug in our software, asks the client, the client says he's happy about the bug, try to turn the bug into a feature, only so I discover weeks later the "bug" is a feature we completely forgot about and works exactly like the PO wanted it to work

Tinkeringbell

Job well done, and you can even take an hour or two off doing nothing and claim you were working on the 'bug' (badadvice)

Arthur Hv

:D

Ael

9:57 AM

My wrist is hurting (probably because of a bad position when working), but I don't know what to do about it. Any ideas?

Journeyman Geek

@Ael laptop or desktop? mouse hand or other hand?

Ael

(I went to the doctor the other day, he gave me something for the pain, but that's it)

Journeyman Geek

there's lots of little things you can do to reduce wrist strain

Ael

laptop, mouse hand

Journeyman Geek

do you use a mouse?

Ael

10:01 AM

yes

Journeyman Geek

Some folks swear by vertical mice or, its the wrong kinda mouse for your grip?

Ael

Vertical mouse are probably okay

So, I just check on google and I am already using a verstical mouse. But I just feel like it's not "vertical" enough, if that makes sense?

Journeyman Geek

hmm kinda

(heh, I kinda have a setup that's perfect for me after trial and error, so I get that :D )

well, nearly perfect .-.

Ael

I wish having a perfect setup would be easier

Journeyman Geek

lol

nearly cause my keyboard just died, and you can't buy 10 years of breaking in

IPS Comment Bot

10:16 AM

I would just assume that the reason is #1 and say "I'll bring them in when we've got a highlight reel" or something non-committal. If they ask when the photos will be ready say a "a couple of weeks." Hopefully they will have forgotten in a few weeks. I would only revert to #2 after I've been asked 3-4 times. — UEFI 2 mins ago

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Arthur Hv

i advised on a workplace question where someone complained about mild rsi as well, I used to have some symptoms and just improved my typing position (and bought smaller keyboards so the mouse is closer)

it's about avoiding to use your wrist at all

Mithical

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Arthur Hv

move your arms more and keep your hands straight, at least thats what worked for me

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Ael

@ArthurHv Hum, I'm gonna try that then, thanks for the advice :)

Journeyman Geek

10:21 AM

I like big keyboards (and mice) and I cannot lie :D

Ael

I personaly just use the keyboard from my laptop. It's just more convinient

Arthur Hv

i'm an ortholinear keyboard fetishist kind of.

i use this one external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/… although with different keycaps, mine are black and white with no symbol

lila

hi

Arthur Hv

hello

lila

10:41 AM

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Okay it doesn't work again ;_;

Ael

@lila You need to the comment the bot posted

lila

10:44 AM

@Ael Haha it was a joke, I wondered whether I could trick you that it doesn't work again :D

Ael

^^

CaldeiraG

1:08 PM

twitter.com/lrvick/status/1320246266270519297?s=19

github.com/github/dmca/tree/…

in short, RIAA's claim is absolutely nonsense

Tinkeringbell

Of course such things are nonsense.

CaldeiraG

1:24 PM

they just assume the tool is only used to download their crappy music videos XD

Tinkeringbell

Heh. Well have you ever used a tool for anything other than that? Youtube was my main source of playlists in high school, through university, and later up until I switched to Spotify a year or two ago.

And yes, I downloaded stuff because I didn't have a cellphone with a mobile data plan that would allow me to listen to youtube on long train rides.

CaldeiraG

@Tinkeringbell archive videos you like because these days you don't own your content either, it can be deleted from nowhere after being on the platform for several years

I dont download music anymore but I know people do it too

@Tinkeringbell fair reason

I use youtube and spotify free now

Tinkeringbell

@CaldeiraG Ahh. Perhaps, but I would usually keep an offline copy of stuff I would put on YouTube anyways.

CaldeiraG

@Tinkeringbell I mean other peoples videos

Tinkeringbell

Ahh. Still not a usecase here :P

CaldeiraG

1:35 PM

i say this but I don't actually have any videos worth saving for future reference

Journeyman Geek

I have stuff I did almost 2 decades ago with no backups other than youtube :D

Ael

1:56 PM

@JourneymanGeek No backup is my nightmare. And yet, backup-ing stuff is so painful that I don't have any proper backup (my most recent one is 3 years old...)

Journeyman Geek

@Ael I was young and foolish then :D

and had movie maker :D

Ael

Maybe I should just save everything I value on the cloud. By taking a dropbox souscription or something

Journeyman Geek

I have an app that does periodic sync to 2x usb drives, and a full system backups :D

CaldeiraG

i bought a 2tb drive to backup a 1.5tb one

Ael

@JourneymanGeek That's the dream *-*

CaldeiraG

1:58 PM

I couldn't afford 2tb in any cloud service :/

Journeyman Geek

@Ael for file level backups - I love bvckup

I was an early adopter so I essentially got grandfathered into a pro licence

Ael

@JourneymanGeek Oh, that's nice!

Journeyman Geek

actually a permanant pro licence. Its 50 quid a year now 0_0

CaldeiraG

@JourneymanGeek :O

Ael

@JourneymanGeek In any case, that wouldn't do for me since I have a laptop and leaving a USB key logged in at all time wouldn't work (because of the wait I use said laptop)

Journeyman Geek

2:02 PM

@Ael cloud is better for that

@CaldeiraG I think backblaze is unlimited

@Ael when I move out, I may leave a pc with a big HDD for remote/off site backups :D

CaldeiraG

@JourneymanGeek isn't their business model to charge for what amount of data you have?

Ael

@JourneymanGeek I think I will take a Dropbox souscription. It's "only" 10€/month

Journeyman Geek

@CaldeiraG nope

CaldeiraG

@JourneymanGeek actually nevermind, that only applies to their B2 cloud storage

backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html

their personal plan is 6$/month

Journeyman Geek

I think the 'catch' is its local drives only

Ael

2:45 PM

Welp, my "special coworker" (ie: the one I dislike most) just managed to successfully piss me off... According to them, Christmas light that no one can see (because everyone is legally obligated to stay at home after 9pm) are "useful"... It becomes irronical when you know that we both work in a company that is all about "protecting the environment"

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Ael

Also, anytime something isn't working, this coworker is all like "it's not my fault, ask someone else for help". Well, I was asking you so maybe you could take a look and help instead in sitting on your ass doing nothing???

Ael

3:26 PM

Well, I just bought dropbox. My peace of mind feel much better

CaldeiraG

4:17 PM

@Ael great :)

@Ael you mean christmas trees? i'm not.. sure what you are saying XDD

Ael

@CaldeiraG No I mean stuff like this that are up only around Christmas

It's also called "illumination"

Or something like this:

I mean, it's pretty but if there is no one around to see it, I really don't see the point

CaldeiraG

Ahh, wasn't quite getting it

I agree it's not useful when you have a curfew currently active

it defeats the purpose of people seeing it (even if you do, without any sort of surveillance you can't check if people are grouping together)

and possibly spreading it

:(

i associated "Christmas light that no one can see" as something in your house like a christmas tree XD

Ael

4:38 PM

Well, yes but also no since you can see your Christmas tree ^^

CaldeiraG

Fair point xD

Ael

I'm currently archiving things on Dropbox and I fill like I stubble upon a time travel machine. So much nostaligia :'( <3

Also, dropbox allows me to be very happy about the fact that I have the fiber ^^

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: My closest friend gets (in my opinion) irrationally angry over small things, how do I deal with this?

For some background information, we're both mentally ill in similar ways and we've built a strong connection based on helping one another. I love her, and she claims to love me. But the last few weeks it's just been constant problems and they're blamed on me without proper explanation. For exampl...

Ael

4:57 PM

I just found 17 differents version of a same report, with the world "final" in it xD I guess my past me was very optimistic when they named this first "final" file

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CaldeiraG

@Ael xD

M.A.R.

8:50 PM

@Ael Spiderman is such a vandal

Ael

x)

M.A.R.

@IPSCommentBot How is that answer on a site called Eeps.

It goes against the very idea of "skills".

There are infinitely many things you can tell someone with that request, but not all of them are 'skillful'

@Ael How about the idea that spider webs are essentially solid pee. Spiderman keeps peeing on buildings when he swings

Of course this was censored in the comics. And the movies.

Ael

OMG, please stop talking xD

M.A.R.

Now let that image stick to your head for a while <Mission accomplished>

Ael

(but if it's solid, isn't more like poo?)

M.A.R.

8:55 PM

My impression is it's number one? Because it's kinda in front of the body

Ael

I honestly don't know enough about spider anatomy to argue for or against that

Tinkeringbell

> No, spider web is not made of poop. ... Poop is the waste remaining from digested food. Spiders expel it from the anus just like you do, as part of their digestive process. Silk is made with proteins in the silk glands and is excreted through the spinnerets.

M.A.R.

Well, pee is made with secretions in the pee gland.

Tinkeringbell

It's called a kidney. You should know that.

M.A.R.

I'm kidneying!

Tinkeringbell

9:01 PM

Good! Glad to know it's still working :)

M.A.R.

So they make webs to maintain homeostasis?

That's essentially also what pee g- kidneys do.

Tinkeringbell

I have no clue. I know kidneys make pee.

My biology lessons didn't go much further :P

M.A.R.

Kidney barbecue is delicious!

Tinkeringbell

Never had any. I know you can't eat ice bear liver though.

M.A.R.

I um, that was random. I have no feuds with Ice bear.

I was told as a kid it helps the kidneys to eat barbecued kidney and even as a kid I was like "how on Earth does that work."

Tinkeringbell

9:04 PM

I grew up with the story of a few brave Dutch Sailors trapped on Nova Zembla. They ate polar bear liver and died of the vitamin A in it, apparently.

M.A.R.

What an oddly specific and intellectual myth

Tinkeringbell

"VOC-mentaliteit" ;)

M.A.R.

What planet is Nova Zimba?

Tinkeringbell

People were trying to find a Northern route to reach Indonesia, instead of having to go around Africa.

M.A.R.

Zembla

Tinkeringbell

9:06 PM

Willem Barentsz

Willem Barentsz (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈʋɪləm ˈbaːrənts]; c. 1550 – 20 June 1597), anglicized as William Barents or Barentz, was a Dutch navigator, cartographer, and Arctic explorer. Barentsz went on three expeditions to the far north in search for a Northeast passage. He reached as far as Novaya Zemlya and the Kara Sea in his first two voyages, but was turned back on both occasions by ice. During a third expedition, the crew discovered Spitsbergen and Bear Island, but subsequently became stranded on Novaya Zemlya for almost a year. Barentsz died on the return voyage in 1597. The Barents Sea was...

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell Oh, fake Columbus then

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Oi, that's our history you're bashing!

Who's your countries fake Columbus? ;)

M.A.R.

He does look like he could eat a polar bear whole

> De VOC-mentaliteit is een term die in 2006 werd geïntroduceerd door de Nederlandse minister-president Jan Peter Balkenende.

Amazing, I got the sentence

Tinkeringbell

Yep.

M.A.R.

Dutch +1

Tinkeringbell

9:08 PM

Level up!

M.A.R.

Jan Peter Longnameguy looks like that guy from The Office

minister-president: vice president?

Tinkeringbell

Nope, president.

M.A.R.

> Nova Zembla
2011 ‧ Drama/Historical drama ‧ 1h 48m

5.8/10 · IMDb

Ouch.

Tinkeringbell

Dutch movies are often like that, 5.8 is high.

M.A.R.

Doubleplusouch

Like that as in crappy or rated very low?

Tinkeringbell

9:10 PM

both.

most are crappy, bad acting and worse dialogs.

M.A.R.

Dutch people being hard to please? Who knew.

@Tinkeringbell Can't be worse than ours

Ael

@Tinkeringbell Dying because you have too much vitamine always sounds weird to me. Vitamine have such a positive image that imagining dying from too much of it is weird

M.A.R.

Poster for GoT season 9:

Ael

Apparently, one of the only vitamine you can eat a lot of without dying is B12

@M.A.R. x)

M.A.R.

@Ael It's possible with lipid-soluble vitamins because they're not excreted easily and can damage the kidneys.

Tinkeringbell

9:12 PM

@Ael You can die from too much water so dying from vitamin A overdose doesn't sound too weird to me :)

M.A.R.

The B group and vitamin C are much safer although people have also managed to damage their kidneys with vit C. Imagine that.

Ael

Well, vitamine always sounded healthier that water to me (because sometimes the water is "bad"/unclean). But yeah, IMO dying from too much water is weird too

M.A.R.

People can be very creative with their poison

You can't probably die of excess B12 because too much probably wouldn't survive the stomach's low pH.

Ael

When you know how many things can kill a human, it's a bit of a miracle that we manage to live such long life

M.A.R.

You need the intrinsic factor secreted by the gut to protect B12 from digestion

Ael

9:15 PM

If you do nothing, you die. If you do something, you might die

Tinkeringbell

@Ael Even if you do something, you'll die. It may just be a slower death ;)

Ael

Yeah true

M.A.R.

For such a realist, Tink really has a bleak look on life

Ael

That being said, I am now going to eat something then go to sleep in order to hopefully stay more or less healthy

Good night IPS people :)

M.A.R.

Don't eat polar bear liver

I was obviously planning to but now that I'm not in Nova Zimbla

Tinkeringbell

9:19 PM

Hahaha

@Ael Sleep well. Sweet dreams!

@M.A.R. I'm sorry for burdening you with this information.

M.A.R.

Nah, I don't consider any sort of information a burden. Almost.

Mithical

@M.A.R. Well there goes tomorrow's plan.

lila

9:56 PM

One exception is vitamin B3 (niacin), it it water-soluble so doesn't pose excretion challenge like fat-soluble vitamins, but still it is both acutely and chronically toxic in higher doses, it is hepatotoxic in overdose and could cause death from liver failure. It is relatively really easy to poison yourself with B3 vitamin overdose compared to all other B-vitamins.

Overdose of vitamin B3 could also lead to problems with eyes or even blindness.

And yes, of course vitamins could be toxic in overdose, an interesting thing is that sometimes the symptoms of deficiency of a certain vitamin are similar to symptoms of its toxicity, vitamins help your body to regulate things, you could imagine regulating the knobs of tap in shower to set the temperature of the water, no vitamin would mean you are stuck on only ice cold water and the presence of vitamin enables you to regulate the ...

...water temperature for your comfort by adding some percentage of hot water. But too much of that vitamin would make you stuck at only boiling-hot water in the shower. It's about balance and optimum.

lila

10:47 PM

Okay IPS, sleepy sleepy good night sleepy sleepy turn off the light, see you tomorrow.

Extroverted Main Man

11:26 PM

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