The Awkward Silence

scohe001

12:45 AM

Oh noes!! @EmC, know that we miss you!

Ælis

4:15 AM

I do love it, they are very funny!

AGirlHasNoName

I'm okay with that

<3 thanks for checking <3<3<3

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName <3 And +15 rep for you :D

Also, shouldn't you be asleep? :p (I know, I should be asleep too ^^')

AGirlHasNoName

UwU

Yes I'm actually in bed.

Gonna rest now.

Ælis

Good night my dear :)

Ælis

4:50 AM

Hey East part of the world people. Can we nuke this MSE comment? It would be nice if the people from the West part of the world don't get to see it ^^

avazula

5:26 AM

@Ælis I put my flag there

You already up? Bad night? :/

Ælis

@avazula Yep, but I was in bed early, so that's fine I guess? What is less fine is how nauseous I feel. Thankfully, I'm on sick leave today and for the next week too. So, I have some time to get better

avazula

@El'endiaStarman I've put everything on lock. Thanks for letting us know, and sorry about the delay. There'll be only two of us until the end of the week, and we're both in Europe (this was past my bed time :p)

@Ælis did you visit the doctor? I'm sorry to hear you're sick :/

Are things going better with the new medication?

Ælis

@avazula The mental health one, yes. It's because my new drug for depression and anxiety hasn't kick up yet, so I mostly didn't eat this past week (force feeding myself is no fun) and I'm also exhausted and I guess I might catch a virus soon (because my body is weak from all that)

avazula

@Ælis :/ you're staying home this weekend?

Ælis

@avazula I think I'm gonna go to my parent home Monday afternoon (not sooner because train tickets aren't free ^^')

avazula

5:39 AM

@Ælis I hope it'll give you enough time to unwind and have some rest before you go then :)

Ælis

Yeah, I hope that too

avazula

<3

Ælis

<3

Ælis

6:10 AM

@avazula My parents just called. I guess I'm going home today afterall

avazula

@Ælis oh darn ... are you gonna be okay?

Ælis

@avazula I hope x)

Sandman

6:39 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

How to initiate a conversation with a person who recently had transition but you were not in touch with them? I had a family friend/classmate/neighbor who I am not in touch with for more than a decade and we were never friends but on friendly terms in childhood. Two years back I got to know that...

CaldeiraG

6:53 AM

Mornin :D

TGIF! o/

Yay! Morning :D

Morning :)

@Sandman We got some sand here :D

[tag: needsbackup] interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/23200/12962

oh crap, i forgot the tag thing again

Ælis

@CaldeiraG remove the spaces ;)

CaldeiraG

6:58 AM

oh

i don't think its going to render after edits XD

Ælis

@CaldeiraG There is still a space

CaldeiraG

Aha!

needs-backup interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/23141/…

@Ælis That made the trick, thanks :)

Ælis

You're welcome :)

Belle

7:28 AM

Morning lovelies

Ælis

@Belle Morning lovely :-*

Belle

I'm looking at this picture from the Comedy Wildlife Photo 2018 and giggling my butt off

dhein

Heya :)

@Belle Morning to you :)

CaldeiraG

@Belle XD

Alex Robinson

10:36 AM

good morning all

CaldeiraG

10:50 AM

@AlexRobinson Morning :)

AGirlHasNoName

@Ælis Whatever that said, thank you for getting rid of it.

I woke up this morning shocked that I hadn't attracted far more gross commentary.

I assumed some of it had to have been removed. ><

Alex Robinson

11:05 AM

h*ck what happened yesterday after i left

Tinkeringbell

@AlexRobinson The Americans woke up and started chatting :P

Alex Robinson

silly americans, waking up past my bedtime

silly americans

2

ok now this is epic

Belle

Isn't everyone on the internet American? Even non-Americans?

Tinkeringbell

Ahh, Sorry :)

Alex Robinson

not quite

Belle

11:12 AM

It's kind of annoying when you're looking for financial advice or something. "You need to save up for your pension!!!111!!!1". I'm not American, I'm fine, thank you.

Tinkeringbell

@Belle It might be a viable approach to start thinking like one, given the current state of Dutch pension funds ;)

Alex Robinson

i mean, investing in your pension is genearlly a good idea - regardless of nationality

Belle

@AlexRobinson Probably, but not 20% of my wages :P

Alex Robinson

i'd say it depends on how high your wage is... but probably not lol

JAD

@Tinkeringbell Not just the pension funds, also the AOW.

Tinkeringbell

11:17 AM

True. I'm at least looking into stuff, trying to see what best to do after I get my own place.

JAD

My workplace doesn't work with pension funds, but rather has a personal pension savings account for each employee. We're allowed to add money from the paycheck into the account, and it's deductable. So that's pretty nice

Tinkeringbell

Oh, that sounds better than just dumping money in a big account, and hoping there's something left for you in 40+ years!

AGirlHasNoName

@Tinkeringbell Don't ever think like an American

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha you're right, maybe I should not ;)

Alex Robinson

i'm really looking forward to getting enough of a salary to be able to pay into something like a pension :')

user58

11:24 AM

"'Murica"

Alex Robinson

i'm not even 'MERICAn

Tinkeringbell

@AlexRobinson :) It's... a lot of fun having money to spare, but it also makes me personally a bit reckless...

JAD

@AGirlHasNoName The current system in the Netherlands is untenable. The idea is that people pay a premium into a fund, and that same fund is paying out to the people that are already retired. The remainder is invested and used as a buffer. Practically, employees of today are paying for the retirees of today, not for their own pensions.

With aging population, that balance is going away

it's becoming more and more expensive

combine that with bad market returns, and the system is ****ed

AGirlHasNoName

@JAD America has had that issue for 60 years

Alex Robinson

i impulse spent £40 on RAM yesterday because it was like 75% off... hopefully can make some money out of it but i'll probably keep it lmao

Tinkeringbell

11:36 AM

Nice!

I bought 4 hoodies/sweaters last week... I'll be mailing them all back. 2 were too long, the other two I didn't even try on because 1 was see-through and the other has a silver glitter thread (where I thought it'd be just grey)... Welcome to winter shopping!

user58

I'll let you know how the gothbot sweatshirt is when it gets here... but that'll be a couple months.

Ælis

@user58 Grandma delivery isn't the most express service, is it? :p

user58

Indeed, especially when it's 6k miles away

Belle

Oh, I picked up a new hobby :D Kayaking. I'm planning to get some winter gear so I don't need to quit next winter

Alex Robinson

is it possible to have too many hoodies? i sure hope not

Tinkeringbell

11:48 AM

@AlexRobinson NEVER!

(in absolute numbers then...)

If we're talking relative ones, hoodies become a problem once there's nothing else to wear on days that are too hot for hoodies ;)

Alex Robinson

pfft, casual. its never too hot for hoodies :)

Tinkeringbell

@AlexRobinson We had a heatwave over here this summer. My brother worked at the zoo, where they have this big jungle greenhouse. Near the roof, they hit temperatures of 70 degrees C. Still not to hot for a hoodie? :P

Belle

I'm readIng thIs artIcle whIch has every I capItalIzed. It's very confusIng.

Tinkeringbell

I can imagine that!

CaldeiraG

@AlexRobinson RAM is always a nice thing to have :D

ankii

11:56 AM

how good is quora as a backup? IPS and quora can use each other's answers as references and make profit.. In the end it's just opinions backed by other opinions.

Ælis

@Belle Maybr their keybord was broken and they decided to use minuse "L" instead? :p

Belle

@ankii Quora is just another QA site. You could 'steal' their sources, just as you can with Wikipedia? If they have any sources, that is.

Ælis

@ankii From the few quora answers I read, none of them had real backup

Alex Robinson

70C what the h*ck @Tinkeringbell

Tinkeringbell

@AlexRobinson Greenhouse ;) They're made to capture sunlight and heat up :P

Alex Robinson

11:58 AM

oh for sure but... god damn thats some serious heat

Tinkeringbell

(This was like really close to the glass, of course further down temperatures were lower. But I honestly believe you could've fried an egg on the outside of that roof)

Ælis

Also, train wifi is annoying. WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO SEND MY MESSAGE!!!

Tinkeringbell

@Ælis Have you ever tried to keep up with a train going full speed? Please don't blame the Wifi for it's bad condition! :P

ankii

Please verify the backup here interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/23198 in point #3

Alex Robinson

i get a train to and from London during the weekdays... never get any wifi

Ælis

12:00 PM

@Tinkeringbell True that xD

user58

none of my buses ever have wifi :(

Tinkeringbell

I know... We WiFi people are all seriously spoiled :P

Alex Robinson

my flat has nearly 400 megabit internet which is quite nice

Tinkeringbell

That sounds good! I have no clue how fast the internet here is. Fast enough :P

JAD

12:35 PM

800 up and down here :)

Also rip, both rear brakes of my car are toast

Alex Robinson

lucky! less lucky!

user58

According to speedtest.net, I just got a result of 6.72MBps download and 0.69 upload...

JAD

@user58 ouch

user58

...yeah that meme isn't really appropriate so I'd avoid it if I were you

Alex Robinson

apologies

Belle

12:48 PM

@JAD I also need to replace my breaks :\ all of them

JAD

:(

Belle

A few weeks ago, I needed to replace my tires. Those things cost a small fortune...

74.78Mbps down and 89.32Mbs up. Why is my up faster than down?

JAD

@Belle due to gravity

Belle

XD At home, my down is faster than up. That'd be explained by gravity better, I think. Perhaps gravity is lower at work?

JAD

1:12 PM

I'll admit I didn't ponder the issue for long

Alex Robinson

1:40 PM

typically download is more useful as day to day we don't upload huge files but will download (cache) huge videos, social media etc... having a higher upload is weird

ankii

If a question that I answered was seen by 51k people, does this mean the 110k reach in my profile has 51k from one answer only?

Tinkeringbell

@ankii I think so, yes... There should be something on meta about this, I think.

avazula

@ankii i think the views in your profile are from people actually visiting your profile, aren't they?

ankii

apple.stackexchange.com/questions/370445 people really hate those memojis partially because they chat with Android users mostly

@avazula I am talking about my "impact"..

apple.stackexchange.com/users/313842/ankii?tab=topactivity here

avazula

@ankii oh. Well, I guess so then?

Tinkeringbell

1:44 PM

14

A: How accurate is the "people reached" counter?

It's fairly accurate. There's no exact science to this but the vast majority of crawlers won't influence the number. The logic used is very similar to tracking actual visits to the site for participation-based badges. And when I say vast majority of crawlers, I'm leaving room for academic setti...

ankii

@Tinkeringbell a link in comments here sends me meta.stackexchange.com/questions/244534/… and it looks like a well thought and discussed feature!

Tinkeringbell

Yep!

ankii

Also, about the privacy issues raised yesterday by a user deleting their posts..

Should we allow some redaction?

ik, its tempting to delete... but later they tried to keep it, just less specific

Tinkeringbell

Nah... there's other ways of handling that, see If I flag my question with a request to delete it, what will happen? here

ankii

PII and irrelevant info from their wall of text can be reviewed and removed(That's what OP wanted too.. but went on to try to delete it).. It's on homepage already

the rest of the question is really good and helpful

CaldeiraG

1:57 PM

@ankii People spent their time answering the question, the question should not be deleted

If the OP don't want to be associated with the question just delete the account :)

You should think if you want it public before you make it public

What goes on the Internet never gets out

Even if you request for deletion in 123456 websites

ankii

Should we allow "some" "redaction"?

CaldeiraG

The OP edit made the question less specific but details is what makes questions good

ankii

ik it will be in edit history.. but anyone of their friends might not be familiar with that feature and will not find out that OP posted something about them.

CaldeiraG

@ankii That's not our concern?

ankii

But we stopped (locked) the person concerned, from redacting it too. We could have guided them, instead of complete rollback.

But fine... I will not push any harder for this. just dropped a thought here.

avazula

2:03 PM

@ankii We're taking care of it from now on. We've heard the user's requests and asked the CMs for advice on the following steps. Thanks for reporting, things are now resolving themselves in the background, don't worry :)

CaldeiraG

@avazula oh cool :)

ankii

That is heartening! Thanks for looking into it!

avazula

@ankii well, that's our job ... ;)

Nog Shine

@ankii Late to the party. Which question are we talking about? IPS or somewhere else?

avazula

I'm off for the night, cya!

ankii

2:05 PM

it would sound weird.. Thanks for doing your job properly xd

@NogShine there are two locked posts on homepage.. I dont want to link them here

bye Avazula!

CaldeiraG

@avazula cya :)

Extroverted Main Man

2:31 PM

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Q: What car is appropriate for a fundraiser to drive

My partner and I are looking at new cars, I am a software developer and she is a fundraiser for a non-profit org, and we share a vehicle to commute work. Recently we started looking for new cars, specifically at an electric Tesla 3, it's a in our price range, but she has raised concerns about sho...

work-environment

CaldeiraG

@ExtrovertedMainMan Yeah, I know this feeling, people are very jealous about others

But it's off-topic :(

Alex Robinson

it is an interesting question, but it feels intrapersonal

scohe001

Eh I wouldn't call it intrapersonal. It's not trying to change the way they feel or act internally. It's just...not really involving any interpersonal interaction. And it's opinion based.

user58

It certainly doesn't involve an interpersonal skill.

Alex Robinson

yeah, appearances and acting appropriately are - things the question touches upon, but i don't think any edit will salvage this question

Belle

2:44 PM

Time to go home. It's raining really badly, but luckily I had the foresight to take the car to work - I don't even know why!

Alex Robinson

if i did own a car, it wouldn't be any faster to go to and from work compared to the train. would be nice for shopping though

Belle

Hmm, taking the train to work would be a lot slower for me. I work one bus stop from home. I generally bike.

scohe001

@Belle ooh I'm jealous. We could use some rain over here right now

Alex Robinson

thats fair. Train is only faster for me because... London traffic

Belle

I couldn't imagine doing shopping without a car. The closest supermarket is a 30 minute bike ride.

El'endia Starman

2:48 PM

......I grew up in a place where the closest grocery store was a 20-30 minute drive.

Belle

@El'endiaStarman Oh, my situation is not so bad then. It's about a 10 minute drive.

Alex Robinson

mine is like a 50 minute walk round trip - a bike isn't practical for a few reasons

Tinkeringbell

@El'endiaStarman 5-10 minute walk here :P

El'endia Starman

If we're talking about now, then there's a grocery store that's a 3-minute walk away. ^_^

(Which we don't often go to because food is more expensive there.)

Belle

They're trying to build a supermarket in town, but it's not working out. Important people are blocking the permits. Because "a supermarket will stop tourists from coming to town centre". Tourists will still come to town centre if there's a supermarket in town...

Tourists are not all there is! There's people living here too!

I'll stop my rant about how much tourists in my hometown frustrate me before it gets too bad :P

Home time!

CaldeiraG

2:59 PM

Well, at my place, most big supermarkets are 5min away on a car but I live very far from the center of the town

15min to get downtown

which is not so convenient when you wanna go out :)

Alex Robinson

i live 5 mins from Wetherspoons which is desirable :)

CaldeiraG

Well, it's not so inconvenient now because I got my driver's license last month :D i just can't drink :p

and no speeding tickets :)

Ælis

3:17 PM

It's always nice to log-in again and see a rude comment on MSE

Oh, it's already gone \o/

AGirlHasNoName

@Ælis poof

yup

I hate that trash.

Ælis

Yeah...

ankii

maybe I was not there when it came up.. but @user58 Blue suits you :)

Do get it back.

AGirlHasNoName

=[

Ælis

If you want to read more about it: literature.meta.stackexchange.com/q/1200/7957

ankii

3:26 PM

yup.. I saw this. on profile.. under top meta

Alex Robinson

good god MSE is a mess

ankii

ironically, other two are nominations.

Ælis

@AlexRobinson Do you have proof? 'Cause otherwise it's lying #sarcasm

ankii

@Ælis links or it didn't happen

Alex Robinson

@Ælis :)

Ælis

3:28 PM

@ankii There

:p

ankii

hah

AGirlHasNoName

@Ælis My god you have to be intentionally unaware to not see it.

@Ælis well played

Belle

@CaldeiraG I love 5 minutes away from the center of town. And 10 minutes from the other end of town. It’s not a big town 😶

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName You are badmouthing the whole community, you should really be ashame of you #sarcasm

Alex Robinson

"I have 50 open tabs of stuff that needs attention and half of it deleting, with 150 more urgent flags that need handling." - Tim Post

I knew it wasn't great but I had no idea it was quite that bad...

Ælis

3:31 PM

That's gonna be my new game. Answer every MSE related stuff by a (not so nice) comment I saw overthere

@AlexRobinson That's not good proof enough. I saw nothing wrong, thus it didn't happen. #sarcasm

(ps: tell me if you want me to stop the sarcasm game. I'm having fun, but you may not)

AGirlHasNoName

It's funny

Alex Robinson

jury's still out

Ælis

@AlexRobinson I'm gonna stop then, I don't want to run out of ideas/comments :p (is that even possible?)

Alex Robinson

aye, gotta save the top quality content

Belle

I wanted to do some gardening today, but there’s a thunderstorm. Guess who’s not going to do any gardening today.

Ælis

3:40 PM

@Belle On the bright side, more free time for you \o/ :p

Alex Robinson

free time is great. shame all i wanna do with it rn is catch up on sleep lol

Ælis

@AlexRobinson Well, if you have sleep to catch why don't you want to catch it up during your free time? Or are you afraid you won't be able to sleep at night afterward?

Alex Robinson

it just kinda sucks because sleep feels like a "chore"... its something i have to do when i'd rather be doing other stuff - i don't get that much free time to begin with

Ælis

Yeah, I understand that feeling :/

Sorry you don't get more free time :(

AGirlHasNoName

@AlexRobinson I feel that way about everything that isn't sleep.

Ælis

3:51 PM

@AGirlHasNoName :( Don't you enjoy making avatars or doing some other hobbies?

AGirlHasNoName

@Ælis arguing with transphobes on the internet?

That seems to be my main hobby these days

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName That doesn't sound like a very healthy hobby, you might consider changing it ^^ I did some coloring today, it was nice :)

AGirlHasNoName

>< Yeah. I'm gonna go shower and shave and then do some homework.

Cya later.

Belle

@AGirlHasNoName Good luck!

This conversation reminded me of this:

AGirlHasNoName

@Belle How did you get a picture of me?

Nog Shine

3:59 PM

@AGirlHasNoName It's me. Not you.

Ælis

@Belle I feel like I have seen this one way too often recently :/

AGirlHasNoName

@NogShine I want to make a joke where I argue with you because you are wrong but Im coming up short

@NogShine I like your name btw. I actually thought you were a Shog sock for quite some time.

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName Also, weren't you suppose to be going? I'm all confused now, I don't know if I should say "see you" or not :p

Nog Shine

@Ælis Oi.. naughty

@AGirlHasNoName Haha thanks.

Alex Robinson

one of my friends got a signed book from Randall Monroe - the XKCD guy. It read "go to bed sometimes, there will still be strangers being wrong on the internet in the morning" and I think we all need to remember that sometimes

Ælis

4:08 PM

@NogShine After re-reading my post and adding the two missing words >< May I ask if it was a joke from you or if you think I was serious when I posted that?

Nog Shine

@Ælis It's a joke from me

Ælis

@NogShine Right, I was getting worried ^^'

Extroverted Main Man

0

Q: How do I confront a co-worker about eating all the jelly donuts?

We have a weekly donut day and recently all of the jelly donuts have been consumed before I have a chance to take one by a certain co-worker. How do I confront him about this / improve the donut fairness problem?

coworkers

Nog Shine

@Ælis Hahaha

Alex Robinson

i am sure that that is a very valid issue for the asker, but it is hard to not smile at it

Nog Shine

4:14 PM

@Ælis That was a double entendre from you if understood properly.

Alex Robinson

oof

Nog Shine

@AlexRobinson Yes.

Ælis

@NogShine I must be having some hearing issues then :p ("entendre" == "hear" in French)

Belle

@ExtrovertedMainMan I'd be livid. Everything but the donuts. Especially jelly donuts

del-pls Have a quick laugh, then press that delete button: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/23204/12101

Nog Shine

That user name and the solution suggestion looks related.

@Ælis Hahaha

AGirlHasNoName

4:32 PM

@Ælis Back. All showered and clean and fresh.

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName Welcome back \o/

M.A.R.

4:44 PM

@user58 karate.

Em C

6:08 PM

@scohe001 <3 don't worry I'm still getting pings when I have wifi ;)

AGirlHasNoName

@EmC UwU enjoy your vaca!

Em C

@AGirlHasNoName thanks! right now we are just sitting in a cabin deciding whether we want to go out since it's a bit gloomy and cold :P but the leaves are pretty!

AGirlHasNoName

@EmC yeah it's pretty frigid here. And I'm a bit south of where you are.

Em C

7

that's the view out the front window

AGirlHasNoName

Nice!

I love the woods

Em C

6:15 PM

yeah :)

tomorrow is supposed to be nice so we'll definitely do some hiking

scohe001

@EmC daaaang I'm jealous. Hope y'all are having fun out there!

M.A.R.

6:41 PM

@EmC whoa, surreal

Froopy

o/

M.A.R.

@EmC inb4 blizzard

Haha I'm kidding. Earth's on a frying pan anyway.

Which easily explains the whole situation but is entirely ignored by them darned scientists.

That turtle got tired of carrying us on its shoulder and is now cooking us. Tom & Jerry style.

CaldeiraG

@Belle Cool :D

Ælis

7:39 PM

Wow, one of the answers under my MSE question was so bad I couldn't even read it in full. If you want something to downvote or flag, it's over here: meta.stackexchange.com/a/335947/400547

@Ælis HF!

HF?

Holy Fk

Ah, yeah...

@user58 I have noticed you have list "they/them" as your pronouns. You use to say that you didn't care (as long as it wasn't "it"), is it not true anymore? In my head, on IPS, I tend to "gender" you as "she" but more as "they" in TAS, I would like to know if I should "they" you everywhere from now on?

ankii

@Ælis can you share vote stats of the accepted answer

And you just reminded me to change my profile too..

But it is unfair to Dumbo, I wanted my profile to include only that. :(

also, this is meta.stackexchange.com/questions/335842/… accusative. I second you posting here though.

Ælis

7:56 PM

@ankii I'm on mobil, I can't see it :/

Also, yes, my post is definitively accusative

ankii

umm it is a comment link

Ælis

Ah well, as I said, I'm on mobil. So no idea what you are refering to

AGirlHasNoName

@Ælis I couldn't finish that either.

uck

M.A.R.

8:23 PM

@ankii Hydrogen Fluoride

@Ælis Oh, it is?

Meh, keep calm and do something fun instead. It's filled with strawmen, red herrings, logical leaps

Maybe a bunch of other stuff. Nothing new, nothing unique. Even the phrasing is not compelling.

Even the comment thread makes you go "ugh" and rub your eyeballs.

Loong

Don't rub your eyeballs with HF.

M.A.R.

@Loong But it's so tempting

Now it's scratchy

AGirlHasNoName

What is HF?

M.A.R.

8:38 PM

@AGirlHasNoName It's the acid they use to remove scratches from glasses

AGirlHasNoName

okay then

M.A.R.

I mean

Two chemists walk into a chatroom.

Well, one chemist and me.

Tinkeringbell

I'm still waiting for the punchline...

M.A.R.

Well, you broke me, remember?

Now all my jokes are like

Tinkeringbell

Aww. I'm sorry. I already filed the insurance papers. Sadly, bureaucracy is slow...

Belle

10:26 PM

Oh, some before bed news: tomorrow someone will come check our house and if she approves, we're getting a new KITTEN <3<3<3

This is him: facebook.com/pg/stichtingzwerfdierenkreta/photos/…

2

AGirlHasNoName

awesome

@Belle <3

ankii

10:53 PM

@Belle thanks for introducing me to this page! It's so awesome to get them in good condition, and share such lovely pictures for adoption. I won't understand the language.. but I am going to follow this page.

And do update us! if it is some sort of test, good luck!

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