The Awkward Silence - 2019-05-27 (page 1 of 2)

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1:53 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Nice to know you think I'm interesting

For context, Reynolds is my last name

@Rainbacon Hence Reynbacon?

Or is it pronounced more like reh-nolds?

2:33 AM

The second one

3 hours later…

5:31 AM

GaMen Pika x)

Does anyone else know the feeling of having had an awesome working week and an even better weekend and starting in the Monday with an feeling of really being happy that another day just starts, even despite its an Monday? Or am I just getting weird? x'D

5:46 AM

Morning everyone!

Oh @Ælis I found something that I think you might like

I'm re-reading my end-of-studies internship report because I have to make a presentation to the person who'll replace me in my company

I have a disclaimer at the beginning of it:

> Whenever applicable, singular they has been used.

:D

Well I actually learned what singular they was from @Tink and @Mith but you made me learn about these topics so, thank you to all three of you. Y'all amazing ♥

Journeyman Geek

6:13 AM

@dhein I have a monday/tuesday weekend

@JourneymanGeek Not my point, but might have the same effect, true xP

Journeyman Geek

I have an old windscreen wiper I am taking apart

Or trying to anyway

good morning!

@avazula Did I? Can't remember, but you're welcome :)

6:39 AM

@avazula Nice! :D

7:00 AM

@dhein maybe it's the prospect of Hemelvaart?

@JAD Definitely. That and getting to work from home the rest of the week (not today though).

heh, I'll definitely be working home tomorrow

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I kinda hope for huge chaos though... A bit of schadenfreude :P

@JAD XD Lol!

@JAD Translation:

> Tomorrow all public transport is on strike.

I know, so damned annoying.

Do you need to be somewhere? Can't you take the bike?

Yeah I guess I could...

Bikes are just so much harder to draw.

@Tinkeringbell I'll definintely be keeping an eye on traffic maps :P

@JAD And the news... I want to see pictures of desperate people that were smart enough to not be prepared ;)

7:10 AM

@Tinkeringbell I like how the NS "advises" people to not travel by train tomorrow

as if they would have any succes attempting it

7:30 AM

@Rainbacon This is not a dating site. ಠ_ಠ

Good noon

@JAD I don't get it.

Is it a Dutch joke, because I don't get it.

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ YOU'RE A DUTCH JOKE

NOU U

7:49 AM

The whole chat is a Dutch joke...

@JAD Well, apparently they don't know yet if a lot of people will strike or not. So if they tell everyone not to go and in the end it's all good, people will complain too :P

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ There will be a very big strike in public transport tomorrow (big enough that a judge had to require trains from Schiphol airport to Amsterdam to go, to avoid overcrowding the airport). So we're all expected to stay at home or take the car. The comic is drawn by an artist that makes more comics about public transport, and who's now complaining about drawing bikes ;)

:50445135 Earlier retirements

:/

@avazula On the one hand I do understand, but on the other... Eventually I might end up being part of the generation that pays for this in some way, and I don't like that.

lol that makes sense

@Tinkeringbell Yep, it's a Dutch joke all right.

7:56 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Were you expecting anything else? ;)

Maybe a Belgian joke. Wait, ugh, they're worse.

They're Dutch and French

they have good waffles though

@Mithrandir And fries.

The law of conservation of angular sweetness says the sweetness flowed from the jokes to the waffles, so it doesn't strengthen your point.

That big union thing in the Brussels is starting to look like a good joke though.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ It has it's benefits, but it also has great downsides.

8:04 AM

Wait till Macron screws up and we end up with another isolationist populist "strong leader" who decides they should go for a Frexit . . .

The hilarity ensues.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ lol. Macron will never want a Frexit

Speaking of which, I think I just realized "Hilarity" is the noun for "Hillary".

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ There's been rumours of a Nexit too. The problem is that a lot of populist voices claim the EU is responsible for the major influx of immigrants. Which isn't true.

@avazula I know, I mean in the next election

There's more trouble with human trafficking than with replacements through EU accords

8:06 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yeah, I realized afterwards :p

@Tinkeringbell You're trying to explain why emotion-driven fear of immigrants is not logical.

I don't expect it to happen anytime soon. Frexiting would be suicide.

As any country-xiting btw

Hey, now I want Iran to exit the EU.

Symbolic action

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Heh. Well, I'm used to illogical fears ;)

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I'll support that ;)

@Tinkeringbell Are you afraid of heights?

8:08 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh no. Just of falling from heights ;)

All parrots I've seen cling on to branches like a

hmm,

cliffhanger? I dunno.

Afraid of heights, afraid of driving cars, afraid of going to work and forgetting pants...

Cliffhanger (film)

Cliffhanger is a 1993 American action adventure film directed by Renny Harlin and starring Sylvester Stallone, John Lithgow, Michael Rooker and Janine Turner. Based on a concept by climber John Long, the film follows Gabe (played by Stallone, who co-wrote the screenplay), a mountain climber who becomes embroiled in the failed heist of a U.S. Treasury plane flying through the Rocky Mountains. The film earned $255 million worldwide. == Plot == Rangers Gabriel "Gabe" Walker and Jessie Deighan are dispatched to rescue their friend Hal Tucker and his girlfriend, Sarah, after Hal suffered a knee injury...

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Like their life depends on it :P

@Tinkeringbell also afraid of turning into a zombie.

I'd make a handsome zombie though. For a zombie.

8:11 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh, I think I'm not afraid of zombies. Never seen one though, so haven't got any evidence ;)

@Alex @Ælis @EmC I just wanted to thank you guys for the 'bot' feedback. Also appreciated the Meta link Em C. The only other question I'd have is have you ever had any issues with the bot or has it always been smooth sailing?

Ongoing issue: Boring name

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ You can change to Marshmellow here too. I like that name :)

Or Marsupial. Then use a Koala as a profile picture.

I've promised the people on Chem I'll keep a consistent name :/

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Never make promises you can't keep! :P

8:21 AM

Eeps lesson of the day

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: Situation at the grocery store

I live in the Netherlands. I am an immigrant of North African descent, and Muslim by faith. Yesterday I walked into a major grocery store. I was very angry and stressed for other reasons. In this store they have an orange juice machine which supplies fresh squeezed orange juice. The orange juic...

work-environment

@Monomeeth Hi there! Well, it has some trouble sometimes, due to socket ending up full or network issues. But all in all it's quite smooth.

Do you knwo about the Closet? You can see it live in there

8:36 AM

@avazula No, I didn't, but I've just found it! :) Thanks!

great :)

8:55 AM

@Monomeeth Sometimes the bot is dead and we are all sad (well, mostly me because I love to spy on all the comments posted on IPS main and meta). And sometimes it feels like the bot is flooding the chat, but that's only because people on main are flooding with chatty comment

9:13 AM

I feel this question could need some additional clarification. Anyone willing to take a look at it?

IPS Comment Bot

9:27 AM

Make sure you CC your manager on these requests for information. If someone is being tardy and delaying / making less accurate the report - you can refer to this to your manager directly. If things really get out of hand, CC your manager AND their manager. This is not OPs playing field, you have to play the hand you are dealt - but your and their manager can reshuffle the deck, so to say. — Stian Yttervik 26 secs ago

#7985 Stian Yttervik (875 rep) | A: How can I tell my boss that the informational inaccuracies aren't my fault without sounding whiny? (score: 6) | posted 530 days ago by Dan Anderson (7311 rep) | edited 529 days ago by Dan Anderson (7311 rep) | Toxicity 0.10839189 | Comment

10:05 AM

I think my brain decided to take some days-off. I'm trying to work but I don't seem able to focus...

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: When sitting, how to non-verbally communicate that someone is invading your personal space?

I don't like when people are physically too close to me. When standing, this isn't a problem since I can move a little and distance myself from the person being too close to me. However, when sitting, moving can be harder or not possible. It seems that, on average, I need more personal space tha...

politeness non-verbal-communication personal-space

10:57 AM

@avazula the HNQ Feed room is not supposed to have people talking in it ;)

@Ælis Same here... so I just wrote an answer ;)

@Tinkeringbell Wow, and not a short one! But, in any case, writing stuff for IPS is always a useful use of anyone times :p

@Ælis Yeah, I could've made it short but there's quite a lot of communication mismatch going on there, I think. The really short answer to this question is that you don't have to escalate to a manager if you don't want to ;)

@Tinkeringbell Agreed with that ^^

11:28 AM

@Ælis Now I've also written a question, and I really should get to work XD

@Tinkeringbell so just having it in my favs is okay then?

@avazula yep! :)

okay :)

Just star the room and see the questions that pop up in it.

Extroverted Main Man

0

Q: How to properly maintain eye contact with people that have distinct facial features?

Recently, I've been talking to someone that is cross-eyed, and his face has a pretty visible scar as well. These talks are mainly at lunchtime when there's more than 1 person present. Whenever he's talking, I try to maintain eye contact or look at his face, as I normally would when having a conve...

awkward-situations coworkers netherlands non-verbal-communication

IPS Comment Bot

11:48 AM

Great answer. I do want to emphasize though, the machine was in fact in need of repair, since the employee had to remove and replace several parts before they got it to work. That is not something they usually leave up to customers, in fact they often scold customers for messing with the machine like that... — user32882 1 min ago

#21880 user32882 (138 rep) | A: How do I avoid an interaction with an employee at the grocery store escalating to the store manager? (score: 4) | posted 52 minutes ago by Tinkeringbell (22641 rep) | Toxicity 0.06751974 | tps/fps: 0/0

Matched regex(es) ["chatty-no-doubt(@Noon)", "chatty"]

12:00 PM

@JAD Might be ^^ I have no clue what that is, tho ^^

@dhein Oh sorry, somewhere I had in my mind that you were Dutch, idk why. Ascension day

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: How to get more comfortable with sexual (and similar) topics?

Mid 20s male here, never really had a relationship or anything. Sexual topics (and similar stuff) never really was talked about in my life since a lot of my friends share the same fate as me. Over the last months I grew really close to my now best female friend (no sexual interest or anything, j...

friends sex personal-information

@ExtrovertedMainMan agree with ava. It's more intra- than inter-.

12:25 PM

@Tinkeringbell Nice, more reading for me!

@Ælis More like a soap opera titled "Aunt"

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Hahaha I wrote a new question totally unrelated to the soap opera called aunt ;)

That scar sounds badass. — Boy reaction

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ XD

@Tinkeringbell Become Neo's right foot and wear cool overalls and sunglasses is my solution. Right and left hands are already taken

12:31 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I have a huge keloid scar on my elbow. It freaks people out for some reason.

@Mithrandir snicker noob.

I have the surgery scars, some scars I have no idea about the origin of, IV scars on my neck, fistula scars, and fistula needle scars.

I have a few scars from playing with knives, and one that's a result of a nasty burn. And then a few because I pick at scabs and have a bad skin.

I could basically play a role in a war movie without any makeup.

But none of them are really visible unless you know they're there

Metaphysical scars.

Poor guy. There's someone in Skeptics who keeps enthusiastically posting questions and stuff, but the questions tend to get downvoted.

12:37 PM

@Tinkeringbell you could be the feather picking parrot from snake discovery

actually that also might be a macaw

@Magisch Huh?

I'm not following ;)

There's a youtube channel named snake discovery

they have a otherwise healthy very vocal parrot named cheyenne who keeps picking at her feathers for some reason

Ah. I don't really keep up with youtube channels ;)

it's a snake enthusiast youtube channel

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I keep getting more of these today.

12:42 PM

So? Tell people to stop sending them :P

It's so . . . hypnotic though.

!chemistry.stackexchange.com/content/img/progress-dots.gif chemistry.stackexchange.com/content/img/progress-dots.gif chemistry.stackexchange.com/content/img/progress-dots.gif chemistry.stackexchange.com/content/img/progress-dots.gif chemistry.stackexchange.com/content/img/progress-dots.gif chemistry.stackexchange.com/content/img/progress-dots.gif chemistry.stackexchange.com/content/img/progress-dots.gif

Bah never mind.

bwahahaha

@JAD Nah, German fella :P So would you mind explaining it to me what that meant? :)

12:58 PM

@dhein Hemelvaart = Ascension Day. A Christian holiday celebrating the day Christ ascended to heaven ;)

1:17 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ you probably shouldn't mention that to @Ash

user15026

Hahaha hahaha

user15026

We are married now it's fine ;)

Have you gotten the immigration stuff all sorted yet?

user15026

1:41 PM

Yes! We completed the application process! Now we are in the final stages of like...him giving notice at work and sorting out his stuff to move and all that. Should be here by the end of July I think.

user15026

(I might end up asking a lot of "how do you deal with x when you haven't lived with someone in years" sort of questions, I have been living alone for 6 years at this point!)

@Ash where you moving to?

@Ash Oh yay! That's exciting. Congrats!

user15026

@Magisch I'm not moving, my husband is fiiiiinallly moving to me!

@Ash That sounds awesome! Congratulations :)

1:45 PM

@Ash congrats

user15026

It's hard to believe we did it lol

user15026

Thanks guys, your support is awesome :)

@Ash It certainly took a loooong time. I remember you already being in the process when I just joined SE! So glad to hear it's finally coming to an end :)

I hope you acclimatize well to married cohabiting life

user15026

@Tinkeringbell yeah, it took quite some time. I am so glad to be done except for the details

user15026

1:55 PM

@Magisch thank you! It should work out I think. It won't be perfect but what is, really?

2:05 PM

Speaking of married life, my fiancee and I keep getting rsvps for our wedding that don't have any names on them and I'm really confused as to why anyone who is filling out the card to say whether or not they are coming wouldn't think to fill out the line for their name

user15026

Yeah, that strikes me as a little odd, how are you supposed to know who to expect?

Exactly, I've had to resort to texting all of my family and asking them if they have rsvped yet and whether or not they put their names on it

So far everyone has said "I think I put my name on it"

El'endia Starman

@Rainbacon Aw man, this advice is late now but @ElizB saw a tip that lead us to put numbers on the RSVPs and maintain a spreadsheet matching up number and addressees.

Aw, that would have been a good idea

If only I had known that my family learned literally nothing in school (after all, I had 12 years of education that taught me to write my name in the box that says "name")

El'endia Starman

That is hilariously and sadly true. It can be hard to remember that the other person doesn't know your handwriting!

IPS Comment Bot

2:30 PM

Great answer. Might be worth adding that the supermarket employees walking around the store are usually untrained 16-year olds with no training in dealing with customers. Many of them are easily flustered and have no idea how to deal with a visibly upset customer. — Erik 57 secs ago

#21880 Erik (6596 rep) | A: How do I avoid an interaction with an employee at the grocery store escalating to the store manager? (score: 8) | posted 3 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (22696 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (22696 rep) | Toxicity 0.09447391 | tps/fps: 0/0

Matched regex(es) ["chatty", "chatty-no-doubt(@Noon)"]

2:43 PM

oh dear

I just realized that the devs included their unit tests in their binary packages

They're now in production

...

@IPSCommentBot tp

IPS Comment Bot

Marked this comment as caught correctly (tp). Currently marked 1tps/0fps. beep boop My human overlords won't let me flag that, so you'll have to do it yourself.

3:17 PM

@avazula I'd say FP: it's suggesting an improvement to the answer ;)

@Tinkeringbell I'm harsh on the usefulness of comments, I know :p

4:00 PM

@Rainbacon HAHAHAAHAA wait. Why?

user15026

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Met my husband on SE :P

Nice! Would I know him, or is he from those outlandish SEs?

user15026

He was a Software Engineering/Programmers mod for quite a while

user15026

(Goes by WorldEngineer on SE, although he's not active much anymore I don't think)

Oh. I'm too outlandish for that

user15026

4:03 PM

giggles

All I know about Programmers Engineering is yannis gnat gnat gnat gnat gnat.

And that duplicate.

ooh, it's kinda quiet today

Holiday in the US and the UK, I believe.

Oh, I didn't know about the UK. Being from the US, I knew we had the holiday, but I didn't think we had that many people around IPS from the US

Though now that I think about it, I know of (I think) 5 chat regulars from the US off the top of my head

And half of our mods are from the US

@Rainbacon They're hoping that you'll save a place for them under no name, and then also ask them if they're coming when you don't see any response from them. Then they get two places.

4:19 PM

I think that will not bode well for them

1 hour later…

5:41 PM

@Tinkeringbell I just had three downvotes in a row (on differents posts), do you think that qualify as "targeted downvotes"? If yes, could you take it a look?

@Ælis I'm can't say if it's targeted. There's a script that runs each night to reverse serial voting, see if that picks them up. If not, it probably wasn't. :)

Oh, I thought the mods go also check manually ^^' Anyway, thanks for the answer :)

@Tinkeringbell That script is extremely conservative :p

@Ælis I can't see who voted for who. I can only see that you indeed had three downvotes in something like 5 minutes ;)

Mods have a few ways to check but nothing that can prove it conclusively. Outside of that one thing (tm) they just have a better view then we do when looking at the ?reputation page

5:47 PM

(And I do know that my answer to your gift giving etiquette question had a downvote too)

see the positive in it, you got a fan

:p

Maybe someone is just running around casting downvotes? That's a bit weird but...

@Magisch Yeah \o/

:p

@Ælis They can only downvote all your posts once ;)

I'm innocent. I don't have enough reputation to be the downvoter.

It's something you get used too, most stuff I post gets a downvote from time to time.

5:50 PM

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, but several downvotes in a row on different questions? I don't think that ever happened to me before

@Tinkeringbell So, they will definitively run out of rep before being able to downvote everything mouahaha

:p

@Ælis That's the spirit :P

@Ælis It happens. I've had them before too.

Think of it this way... people don't downvote enough, we're finally getting some downvotes :P

@Mithrandir Yeah, but on all the wrong kinds of posts :P

technicalities

@Mithrandir Haha :p But they also don't upvote questions enough, maybe you should go and upvote some recent questions (it just happened that I posted three of them last week :p )

5:55 PM

...I am guilty of not upvoting enough, that's true. I don't think I've broken 80 upvotes since the site started....

Oo

Go upvote, now!

Yep. 78 up, 1595 down.

Wow.

Quite a ratio.

I have 611 up and 53 down (does delete answers count? Because I thought I would have much more downvote than that)

Yes, they're counted

@Ælis I see 256 downvotes from you. Are you sure you're not on meta?

5:58 PM

@Mithrandir No, I am on this page: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/users/21067/…

Oh, those aren't counted there. Check interpersonal.stackexchange.com/users/21067/… - it says 265 downvotes.

At the bottom.

Oh, right! I was wondering were you were getting your data from ^^

Also, I have 211 deletion, which I found quite nice :p

I only have 95 downvotes across the entire network.

@Alex Do you have a SEDE query or something to check that?

@Mithrandir No, I just manually checked each account with >125 reputation.

6:01 PM

Welp.

Counting meta sites?

237 up / 6 down

@Alex You probably don't participate in a lot of moderation stuff then, do you?

@Ælis I think I'm just very conservative when it comes to downvotes. I have over 3,000 upvotes.

Because I'm too lazy to type numbers:

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@Mithrandir No.

6:06 PM

@Tinkeringbell How is posting a screenshot less lazy than typing numbers? XD

@Ælis Because I used the snipping tool ;)

Are you using windows?

@Tinkeringbell No, Firefox on ubuntu

@Ælis Ah. Well, snipping tool is the best invention ever! You just select part of the page you want to 'screenshot', then you just paste it in chat ;)

Oh, that sounds nice! I think on of my coworkers use it, maybe I should ask her about it tomorrow ^^ (since I use windows at work)

@Ælis just open the start menu and search for 'snip' :P

6:09 PM

You can use the "screenshot" tool on Ubuntu and then upload the image...

@Tinkeringbell How are you able to paste it directly?

@Alex ctrl + v :P

Hello all. I would like to discuss a question I posted recently (interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/21871/…). It is about dating habits and I was recommended to chat about it.

@Tinkeringbell Doesn't work for me.

@Alex I think it comes with the dark chat theme ;)

@GabrielDiego Hey Gabriel! :D

6:12 PM

@Mithrandir Well, I have a key that does take a screenshot and put it on my computer (but then I need to crop it), I think it's good enough for now (because I'm too lazy to look into improving it right now :p)

@GabrielDiego Hey, welcome to chat!

Thanks!

o/

So I was asking for some dating advice that is scientifically backed, to avoid the opinion-based situation.

\o

But it turns out asking for a question like that is off-topic, so I wanted to reformulate it in an on-topic way.

6:15 PM

The only dating advice that's scientifically backed is "Don't."

Okay. Let's start with: What part of dating? Because dating is a whole is quite broad to make a study on.

Haha, so how people get married?

@GabrielDiego Arranged marriages! :P

The whole part, from beginning to end. I'm currently single and very raw on that.

Not always. I have a friend from India who said that this was a terrible mistake.

Okay. Relax, and take things one step at a time XD

@GabrielDiego Oh, probably. But they did get married ;)

6:17 PM

@Tinkeringbell Well, I would like to restrict it to "with a high likelyhood it works out well"

Are you struggling with asking people out? Are you not meeting enough people (this one is kinda off-topic, we had one like it before)...

@Tinkeringbell Not really, I've asked out many women already

@GabrielDiego See, that's why IPS questions are so hard to write properly :P

@GabrielDiego Okay. So is there just no click? Do you mess up after a while, and do they let you know?

@Alex 5,823.

@Tinkeringbell I think that I'm following to religious advice too seriously. I am religious, but I would like to follow whichever advice in a rational way.

6:19 PM

@Mithrandir Not bad.

@GabrielDiego Are you dating religious women (do you know?)?

And if so, are they of the same 'branch' of religion, and thus likely to hold the same values?

@Tinkeringbell Yes, I look after these women. I am Christian Catholic and live in California.

(I really think this is one where we might be able to give some informal advice in chat, but I'm struggling to see a good question for the main site yet).

@GabrielDiego Have these women ever let you know they don't appreciate certain things you do?

@Tinkeringbell "How to get feedback from a date and ask them what they didn't like about you (without being too intrusive)?"

I think the problem is that you're struggling with something that's always going to be amazingly opinion based. People differ a lot, and unless you can read their minds it's kinda impossible to know how to hit their right buttons. It's always going to be a game of watching subconscious or conscious body language, and guessing.

@Ælis I think we have one like that already.

interpersonal.stackexchange.com/q/13854/1599 and interpersonal.stackexchange.com/q/17786/1599 for example :)

6:26 PM

@Tinkeringbell or less guessing and more asking them

@RoryAlsop That too... I guess that shows I don't date a lot :P

@GabrielDiego My very personal opinion in dating, is that the very first key to success is to find the right person. Like, if you don't have the same values and have no interest in common, it won't work anyway.

@Tinkeringbell to be fair, I haven't since last century... this year is our 21st anniversary

so I don't understand online dating - but I'm sure you can still meet people in bars and clubs etc :-)

@RoryAlsop Nice! My parents just had their 30th yesterday. And my grandparents will have their 60th in a week or two. And I'm still looking for one that will last half a year :P

@RoryAlsop Yeah. That's my problem numero uno. I don't go to bars and clubs XD

@RoryAlsop Last millenium too.

6:29 PM

@Alex aye :-)

Or if I do, it's with friends and I'm too busy catching up with them to notice other people ;)

@Tinkeringbell This is kind of like a bar/club.

@Tinkeringbell well - that's how I met my wife. I was with friends and it just kinda happened

@Alex Yeah, but luckily this is NOT a dating site :P

@Tinkeringbell lol

6:30 PM

@RoryAlsop Sounds nice. I'll just keep waiting then :P

@Tinkeringbell But you can get experience "notic[ing] other people" while you're catching up with friends.

@Alex this ^

@Alex I need more friends to catch up with then :P I think if I say I enter a bar 5 times a year, I'm exaggerating :) We usually just hang on the couch at home :P

@Tinkeringbell do any of them ever bring other friends?

@RoryAlsop Not really, no.

6:32 PM

@Tinkeringbell that limits your options then :-)

@RoryAlsop I know ;) Ah well, I don't really mind not having to spend effort on a relationship right now.

@Tinkeringbell Get a bigger couch?

@Tinkeringbell that's also a good call

@Alex Mom won't let me. It's still her living room :P

@Tinkeringbell pffft

6:34 PM

@Tinkeringbell I guess that there must be some common features on what works and what doesn't that people have noticed.

@Tinkeringbell New question to post: "How do I convince Mom that not getting a bigger couch is harming my relationship chances?"

@RoryAlsop Yep. Move out first, then see if I can build a circle of acquaintances that lasts, and perhaps build a relationship. But if that last one never happens, I don't think I'm going to be sad.

@Alex Knowing my mom, her reply is going to be along the lines of 'get rid of that stupid old single person corner bed first!'

I don't want a double bed, changing sheets would be horrible.

@Tinkeringbell I did this mistake. It turns out that when you do martial arts and go-karts you should be less judgemental about the gender of the person you want to be with :-P

@Tinkeringbell How about a loft bed? Have you ever tried to change sheets while erying to avoid getting whacked in the head by the ceiling fan?

@GabrielDiego Well, then I'd advise you to find one of those features first, then you can say how you think about applying them or how you've applied them, and we can help you explain if you did it right. A bit like this question and answer for example :)

6:37 PM

@Tinkeringbell So it is important to look for people of both genders, equally and avoid gendered hang-out places.

@Mithrandir Turn off the fan?

@Mithrandir Luckily, no ceiling fans here! Instead, I'm stuck with a metal lamp fitting, in which I put an LED bulb. So now the thing is leaking current, and glowing at night :/

@Alex And suffocate?

Need to fix that sometime when I'm not too lazy

@GabrielDiego That's true :)

@Mithrandir Get quicker at changing sheets.

6:38 PM

Luckily for me martial arts or go-karts would probably mean a bigger assortment to choose from! :D

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, such a shame I'm straight :-P

@GabrielDiego Who says I'm not?! :P

@Tinkeringbell Well, I didn't, but I agree that having hobbies doesn't necessarily correlate to being exposed to people I would be interested to.

@GabrielDiego Yeah, that's going to make things harder. But not impossible, like Rory said having a friend group that allows you to interact with mutual friends often seems to work great :)

@Tinkeringbell It made impossible for me, so I decided to spin my methods.

@Tinkeringbell That's why I'm here ;-)

6:45 PM

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@Alex Yeah, but luckily this is NOT a dating site :P

:P

So this is a dating site.

@Alex It isn't. I recommend the Dutch Twitter right now. There'll be a massive strike on public transport tomorrow (no trains or buses anywhere, except a few to ferry people away from the national airport to avoid overcrowding there)... and people are offering each other rides...

@Alex We are getting off the original question. What can I do to improve the chances of finding the right person? I mean, showering is a very basic one. There are many others that help too.

But of course, some smart asses are saying they are cycling to work tomorrow, and anyone is welcome to sit on the back of their bikes XD

@Tinkeringbell It's not that hard to do, actually

6:48 PM

@Mithrandir Nope. Dutch bikes have racks, and with a small pillow they're actually not all that uncomfortable too.

But I don't think that's what #carpool is meant for XD

IME, the first person stands on the pedal and leans forwards, the second sits on the seat and holds on to the first person, and tries to figure out what to do with their feet.

@Tinkeringbell So whoever offers you a ride first gets to be your prince?

Also, it is extremely scary to be clipped in to the pedals and giving someone else a ride. Do not recommend.

@Alex I'm an independent princess. I get to work from home :P

@Mithrandir Just use the bike rack of a sensible bike :P

"sensible bike"

6:50 PM

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Usually more like this though:

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wow - sidesaddle

@RoryAlsop Astride hurts the lady bits and hinders circulation to your feet ;)

Eeeek. No helmets.

So most people prefer sidesaddle. It also allows for the person cycling to pick up some speed, and then the person on the back just hops on.

@Mithrandir Helmets are for non-Dutch people ;)

And people that do bike tricks or cycle very fast.

helmets are not good in cities, many reckon

I'm a fan of them out on the open road on a fast bike, but definitely not in a city - too dangerous

6:54 PM

@RoryAlsop Helmets are always good.

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@Tinkeringbell Can cause more accidents in cities. Most cycling groups are against them in dense urban environments - the statistics aren't good

@Mithrandir Yeah, you need a helmet to ride that one ;)

@RoryAlsop more accidents? What kinds of helmets are those people wearing? Or are they cycling more recklessly because of the helmet?

@Tinkeringbell looks like they cycle more recklessly, passing vehicles don't take as much car, and most importantly, it reduces your ability to see/hear danger

I'll try and find one of the links to studies - Cycling.SE sometimes has chat on this

@RoryAlsop Hmm. I wonder what kind of helmet they're wearing ;) As most helmets I know don't limit field of vision or cover ears.

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That one for example

6:58 PM

...and if you're wearing a full face helmet in an urban environment, you're doing it wrong :P

@Tinkeringbell they don't cover, but they do impede. All helmets cause a raised noise floor, as wind noise is inevitable

@RoryAlsop That's true. But people are mostly wearing headphones or earplugs with music here anyway XD

in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Jun 5 '18 at 10:19, by SQB

You mean the "I'm a tourist" marker?

Eeek.

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