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6:00 AM
Meh. I said all I had to say about that already in the comments there. I'll just keep my fingers crossed for rain, aelis, and Ava (and Eliz, if she decides to drop a very last minute nomination). But I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed things ;)
Morning everyone!
Hey you!
How was your weekend?
@avazula Morn' :)
Q: How can I stop my niece with developmental disorder from sitting behind my juice bar?

Amanda d'HalluinI own a small juice bar, with two seats behind the counter for me and my employees, and a piddling number of seats for customers that are usually occupied. My brother has genetic disorders and his 18 y.o. daughter genetic and developmental disorders. Every week she comes to the juice bar to vis...

6:23 AM
good morning
6:36 AM
I jsut am wondering, if a troll posts good content, with being inline with our policys and it being helpful, how can this be by definition a troll? I am a bit confused about this, why everyone wants to take actions on that. And I wonder by what scale these suspicions would be measured. I mean that 8th Question sounds to me like "You see a high quality post but have for no reason the suspect it might be bad intended, what you do?" Am I misunderstanding that question?
@ElizB Rep isn't all that important.
@dhein A troll would be someone who posts intentionally inflammatory content in an attempt to rifle up controversy and start arguments, while still technically keeping in line with the policies. Not explicitly breaking the rules, but - intentionally - wreaking havoc. Not every controversial or divisive post is a troll, of course, but sites like this one are especially attractive to people who'd be willing to do that for a laugh.
@Tinkeringbell I hope @ava spend a nice weekend, mine was definitively good and not to tireing which was nice :)
6:52 AM
@ElizB I ran on Puzzling.SE with much less rep and posts than some of the other candidates, and I came in third - only 12 votes behind second. You never know what your chances are.
7:06 AM
@ElizB I know some people doesn't lile me (according to the downvotes on my meta questionnary answer). I can definitively see you having more rep than me and finishing third :)
@Mithrandir ok, but there is a difference between "skirting the lines of what is acceptable", and " good content, with being inline with our policys and it being helpful,"
@JAD Right. There's no mention of the posts being especially helpful in the questionnaire...
Q: How to act when you think your way is better and it is but the other person shouldn't be made to feel less?

Joselin JocklingsonSuppose you wanted to make a contribution to someone, in some form, and would like things to go your own way and things to be the way you imagine them, but someone else opposes themselves? Suppose your way is better, or you think it's better. How do you explain to the other person that your way ...

@Mithrandir there was in @dhein's question
7:40 AM
@Ælis I did :)
@JAD Thats pretty much what I had in mind
@Mithrandir Hmmm I was like we had some kind of policy that posts of our platform had to be helpful. Hence I felt that complient with policy was implying they are helpful
@Ælis I wouldn't actually take this about liking or not liking. I am one of the downvoters. That's not cause I don't like you, but cause I disagree with some of your moderating approaches. So totaly nothing personal. Actually as a person I DO like you :)
How'd I do? 😅.
Pretty serious discussion going on in the room. Sorry for the interruption.
@avazula I think OP is having conflicts regarding upbringing of their children with their spouse. So "hypothetical" slightly implies disregard for their condition. Isn't that so?
@dhein Oh, that's nice to have this feedback! Feel free to also post it under my meta answer to the questionnaire
Also, @Magisch thanks for your kind comment :D
@ankiiiiiii For a user still (kind of) new here, you did very well :) For next time, for this kind of too broad question, I suggest you directly ask "Hey, do you have some examples you could add?" then explain why adding such an example is important (because it's too broad and unanswerable otherwise). Citing the policy is good but it's often hard to understand what concrete actions you need to take. So, that is why clearly stating "you need to add an example" is good
8:05 AM
@Ælis Oh okay.. In fact, there are several issues that 4 people have pointed out in the comments. I could accommodate only that much.
@ankiiiiiii Don't worry, you did well :)
@dhein Also, I'm kind of interested to know what are the moderation approaches point that you disagree on with me? (that is, if you don't mind telling me)
@ankiiiiiii Hi there! As AElis pointed out, hypothetical is not meant in a negative way here, I just wanted to ask OP to provide details about the situation they're trying to achieve ("suppose that XYZ happens and ..." is not a great fit here). I hope my comment as a whole explained that point and if not, that it didn't come across as rude
8:34 AM
@dhein Downvotes on the questionnaire annoy me though. All they do is make one or two candidates always appear on top of others.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Which to an extent, is good ;-)
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ yeah, I agree with you here. and with @Tinkeringbell too. I am not sure if this is actually a pro or cons. But since the option is there I make use of it as others do. ^^ But yeh, dunno about it. Might be kinda demotivating for some Nominees, despite its not necessarily really representative.
@Tink IMHO that's not what the questionnaire is for. A real-life equivalent would be an economics prof. agreeing with whatever a presidential candidate says on screen, making them look good, and a comedian ridiculing everything the other candidate says. At the same time. It skews perception and makes an unbiased evaluation harder than it already is.
@Ælis I am willing to tell you. But a little disclaimer upfront: I am not willing to discuss it with you, as I made the experience in the past, the 2 of us discussing personal views has somewhat a risk get draining for me (and I suppose for you as well). And since I recently have quite some busy work days, I can't effort getting drained at work. (Otherwise I'd even be willing to discuss it with you if you wanted :P)
yawns Afternoon!
8:43 AM
Afternoon Ajay
Hmm, now I should think of an Ajay from a Bollywood movie that doesn't subjectively suck.
And one whose surname is not Kumar. Ugh.
@dhein That's fine with me :) May I still answer to explain my view or would you rather have me not do that?
This is my view: I keep confusing Aelis and Eliz.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ There is an actor named Ajay Devgun.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yep. I totally agree with you. But still, I am not sure if that's neccessarily all bad.
@AJ Whoa, developer gun
8:45 AM
@Ælis Feel free to do so. Just don't expect me to go get into that at that point :)
@dhein I guess it's not 'bad' if it's a candidate you like to win ;) It definitely is unjust, though.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ The names does look a bit similar indeed. Thankfully we have really distinct avatar
Yeah which I can't see 99% of the time
@dhein That's good with me (and it also allows me to have the last word :p )
And WTH, I can see avatars now.
I feel immortal
8:47 AM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Arf, I see why you would have a hard time differenciate us :/ I do find it harder to follow a discussion when half of the avatars are not visible to me
@AJ Googles Oh that guy. There was this movie where he was poor and his family was poor and everything around him was poor. He was basically emitting poor rays. He had an opportunity to gain some money with nepotism but he refused. Still, it was an okay movie, I guess.
@Ælis Rarely it happens that it sounds like the censorship servers take a break or the bots go offline or something and I can see avatars without a VPN
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Ehhh... you're making this too complicated. The economics professor upvoting one questionnaire answer (agreeing with the presidential candidate) is the same economics professor ridiculing the other candidate most of the time.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ which movie you are talking about?
@AJ If I remembered the title I would have mentioned the title
@Tinkeringbell The only thing visible to people is the score, not who voted.
BBL lunch
The main argument in favor of it is why shouldn't people just be able to disagree with them just like any other meta post.
More on it later. Check out these kitten compilations.
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#22081 Mickey Perlstein (101 rep) | Q: How to act when you think your way is better and it is but the other person shouldn't be made to feel less? (score: 0) | posted 2 hours ago by Joselin Jocklingson (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.87147474 | High toxicity | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["offensive"]
9:02 AM
@IPSCommentBot Not offensive but answer in comment
Invalid feedback type. Valid feedback types are tp, fp, rude, and wrongo
So yeah, the main problem I have with your approaches is that you are for my expectations way too trigger happy when it comes to deletions. I mean I trust you that you will step back a little given the mod's deletion powers. But when I came back to IPS like 9 months ago, your strictness about policy and the immediate actions being taken made me first feel offended a few times. Especially since my impression was so far, you have a hard time trying to take the itnends or motivations of others into account or getting into their points of view. While that's not necessary for making judgement ab
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ That I had already. :P
@dhein I guess I see your point (even if I don't necessarily share it), thanks for letting me know :)
9:32 AM
(I already commented under their other answer, it didn't have the requiered effect, I'm hoping someone else could try to do better than me)
9:49 AM
Also, if someone could tell them that just posting a link without telling us what is said in those link is not enough, I would be greatful (I don't really appreciate when my remarks are called "unthought-out"...)
(Seems link Tink handled it, thanks :) )
@Ælis You are welcome :)
@Ælis You're welcome. I also put the question on hold and tried to engage the poster to rephrase...
@Tinkeringbell Hello. I'm sorry I may have upset you for something in the past. Frankly, I don't even know what it was. Was it that I called you my friend? It's normal in my culture to consider anyone you spend a lot of time with "a friend" even though they don't necessarily have to be close friends. An analogy perhaps might be some cultures adding "mate" or "pal" while talking to even random strangers.
Hi Mickey, there's already an other answer here with 75 with an approach that doesn't require OP to pretend to have a disorder in any way. What makes you think your answer is better? Since you didn't include any personal experience or links to other evidence that your approach would work your current answer isn't any better than a random "try this" which isn't a good answer on this siteImus 1 min ago
#22083 Imus (3791 rep) | A: How to ask if I can mow my neighbor's lawn (score: -1) | posted 25 minutes ago by Mickey Perlstein (95 rep) | Toxicity 0.1776628 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]
Was just gonne tell @Ælis I tried to comment on his new answer with a more direct wording. And this bot spoils my fun just because I started with "hi mickey"? (or some other regex match that I'm unaware of)
9:54 AM
@IPSCommentBot hum?
Invalid feedback type. Valid feedback types are tp, fp, rude, and wrongo
@IPSCommentBot hum
Invalid feedback type. Valid feedback types are tp, fp, rude, and wrongo
@Tinkeringbell Regarding my reduced visible presence on IPS - the past year has been very eventful, met my dream girl, job, had an amazing year offline - I chose to spend more time with friends and family outside the internet for a while. But that does not in any way "delete" any knowledge or experience I have on stack exchange.
@Tinkeringbell Regarding IPS policies - I have made sure to stay aware of the ongoing meta debates for a long time. I am up to date on the major subjects happening here - just did not engage in any conversations myself so as to avoid committing to respond to replies.
@Imus The bot can tell you what regex catch the comment, but it seems like I'm unable to remember the commend >< Anyway, thanks for leaving a comment there :)
9:57 AM
@Tinkeringbell I do not know of any way to provide evidence of said keeping myself in the loop. I am aware that the only thing users can see of me is the posts and activities I have visibly made, not of those I have spent time reading without bothering to log in to the site.
hmm. Don't y'all have an election chat?
Random image to lighter the chat mood:
@Tinkeringbell I don't intend to disrupt anything on the community. If for some reason (currently unknown to me), all of the current mods do not want me in their team, I will step out. I only wish for the best for the site.
@Ælis westie?
@Ælis I prefer cats. ;)
Cat person, I am. Not a fan of dogs, lol
10:10 AM
@JourneymanGeek Don't ask me, I know nothing about dogs ^^ (but I thought that, maybe, you like dogs :p )
@Ælis certainly a terrier. Kinda lacks the stripe on the muzzle though
@NVZ I do prefer cat too, but this picture was a special @JourneymanGeek delivery :)
@NVZ pfft. You do not have my vote then ;p
(actually, I have a reasonable idea who to vote for already, like or dislike of canids aside )
@JourneymanGeek Oh no, I was hoping to buy your vote with some more dog pictures! :(
Ava's probably my first choice, mainly cause she's someone I interact with a lot, and it feels like she has the people skills.
10:14 AM
@JourneymanGeek I can't disagree with that :)
@Ælis Probably helps that I see her around my chatroom periodically too
@JourneymanGeek Well then, she is cheating :p
@Ælis well yes and no
It depends on what you consider to be a good mod
And since chat's somewhat underloved, having folks familiar with other chatrooms helps keep the third place healthy
@JourneymanGeek Well, I do believe that commenting activity is more important than chat activity. And both her and Rainbacon have a nice comment activity IMO (even if ava was a little less present this past month due to work issues that are now resolve)
10:20 AM
Okay, I should stop chatting and go back to work now ^^
@Ælis huh? it was, Wasnt it?^^
@IPSCommentBot huh?
Matched reason "chatty" for regex ^(?!.*how\Wto\Wwrite).*(terrible|horrible|bad|excellent|great|good|nice|wonderful)\W?(advice|answer|explanation).*$
@dhein Thanks dhein! (Those "huh" are not very intuitive for my French me ^^)
10:31 AM
@Ælis Back to commenting you mean?^^
@dhein No, the work that I'm actually paid for :p (which is, right now, very difficult to do since I don't have the right tools :/ )
Q: Would it be strange to ask a guy out after we (drunkenly) cuddled for more than an hour last weekend?

NatasjaHe(20M) is a friend of a friend who I(22F) begin to get to know a bit better because we play DnD together. We were both at a party and somehow we ended up cuddling. I never really looked at him in that way, but I am happy to find out if there could be more between us. But I am just scared that th...

@ExtrovertedMainMan VTC'ed as asking what to do. No time to comment on it right now, tho
Since I have to get back focusing on my paid job now too ^^
11:12 AM
@IPSCommentBot So it was because I used "good answer" without "how to write". oddly specific regex :D
Q: My team has problems expressing when feling a problem in the team?

ClMendMy team has problems expressing when feeling a problem in the team? They start doing noises!

You need to get out of home. Now. Your development as a person is being stunted by overbearing parents. — M i ech 10 secs ago
#22077 M i ech (101 rep) | Q: Effectively communicating that I am not withholding information (score: 1) | posted 21 hours ago by Josef (6 rep) | edited 16 hours ago by bruglesco (944 rep) | Toxicity 0.53629667 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic"]
@IPSCommentBot tp
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@dhein was just about to ask for country tag on that one :D you beat me to it
11:45 AM
Oof, I missed some fun it seems
Typical me
@AJ No fair, you're an hour ahead.
@JourneymanGeek Wow, you're even more bureaucratic than me
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ no soup for you.
in Language Overflow, Dec 4 '15 at 20:45, by StoneyB
Such bureaucratic efficiency!
I dunno why bureaucracy wouldn't be a compliment in the chaotic environment that is the internet. It's not like we work at the DMV or something
You need to fill a form in triplicate to get a form to be filled in triplicate to obtain the form to get a complaint form
Which needs to be filled in triplicate, notarized and sanitized
@JourneymanGeek There's a part from an Asterix comic that's exactly that :P
@Tinkeringbell might be inspired by the cartoon version of that
11:59 AM
Isn't that from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
@JourneymanGeek I'll stamp you with a QC stamp (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
@bruglesco I love Adams
@JourneymanGeek like when you need a second notary to notarize that your notary is authorized to notarize things?
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ The stalling effect of bureaucratic, comming with lazy people executing it gives it a bad tone I think. Bureaucratic as such is really a beauty from my view x)
12:15 PM
@Imus That's because linking of our faq about good answers would always been reported otherwise. That was some kind of a "workaround" to the problem
@Ælis That was obvious when I read the regex. Just funny how specific it is for that case
@Magisch exactly. We are not barbarians
12:39 PM
The dog makes it easy: if you farted, blame the dog. I you didn't fart, blame the dog. Easy as that... — Laurent S. 1 min ago
#22079 Laurent S. (129 rep) | Q: Should one acknowledge a silent fart in a one-on-one scenario (with a dog present)? (score: 0) | posted 20 hours ago by Slow loris (3898 rep) | Toxicity 0.7882085 | High toxicity | tps/fps: 0/0
@IPSCommentBot tp
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@Tinkeringbell alrighty I guess I'll give it a shot.
@ElizB \o/
Good morning everyone!
12:43 PM
@Ælis hehe thanks for the support
@Rainbacon Good morning!
@Rainbacon Good morning/afternoon onlyone :p
Wow, I think this was the busiest weekend on IPS in months and I was mostly unavailable due to moving
@Rainbacon In the months? In the last ten months you mean! (before that, I don't know, I wasn't there :p)
the mod election is a conundrum
sadly we can't go "there are more good candidates then positions so just make 3 positions then"
@Ælis There is an implied "several" before months. It's a fairly common English idiom to say "in <insert unit of time>" to say that it has been a really long time. You use the unit of time to specify the scale of really long time
12:47 PM
@Rainbacon Oh, right. Somehow my brain managed to add "a" between "in" and "month(s)" ^^'
@Ælis last 10 Months? So you joined IPS just like a month before I came back? You sure? :o
@Magisch meta.stackexchange.com/q/329113/369802 < Apparently, happened once. That question links to it ;-)
But no, shouldn't be done :P
@dhein You just have to check the age of my IPS account to check that (because, when I finally decided to create an IPS account, I immediately started to be very active)
Yeah but that would require me to make quite a few clicks :P
Nah Nah Nah, that can't be :D It was already saying 10 Months like 9 Months ago. That must be some kind of static image :P
@dhein "Visited 301 days, 301 consecutive" -> I'm kind of impressed at myself here Oo Also, 301/3 = 10,03333. So yeah, I have been here for the last 10 months ^^
12:59 PM
Ok, my honest respect to that one :o
I am leaving office now. have a nice day everyone :)
@dhein Have a nice day to you too :)
@Ælis so you are forking aelis :p
@dhein I'm jealous! I'll still be spending another hour here. Have a nice day :)
which raises a interesting question. If the original aelis recieves a diamond, will subsequent forks inherit the diamond?
Forking diamonds is against the TOS, I think ;)
That's why a mod with socks only has a diamond on 1 sock ;)
1:05 PM
Since one of the youtubers I'm sometimes watching reads F**k as fork to prevent demonitizing, this convo reads somewhat, euhm, let's say NSFW
@Ælis Visited 720 days, 708 consecutive :P
@Imus So, it seems that diamonds aren't an STD XD
@AJ Visited 667 days, 78 consecutive
@AJ Wow, that's definitively impressive too!
1:09 PM
@Tinkeringbell If we were one day before, I would have been very scared of you :p
@Ælis Yeah, I seem to have missed a great number... but 66778 isn't too bad either! :P
How about that? ;)
362 days, 1 consecutive here
@AJ Pfff, stop showing off :p
1:10 PM
@Tinkeringbell True that!
I missed only one day in the beginning of the site, else it would have been 721 (the site's age)
I take days off from SE every now and then
@AJ Yep, definitively impressive
even online social interactivity is draining
I use SE, Instagram, Twitter and nothing else.
1:13 PM
@Magisch Yeah, I get that too. When I come back from work, it sometimes so hard to focus in order to interact online :/
Looks like we're gonna get a new moderator on board on the second anniversary of IPS. :D
Imus: Visited 254 days, 1 consecutive
yup, sounds about right
@Magisch I take 25 hours off every week. Certainly helps.
well there we go. Answered the questions and posted my nomination. Let's see what happens 🤷‍♀️
@ElizB Now there are 4 people I can't decide between instead of 3
1:24 PM
@Magisch heh
okay, gotta eat breakfast
I already feel accomplished lol first thing in the morning doing the nomination made me feel motivated
Ooh, if 6 more people nominate in the next 7 hours we'll have to go to primary :p
@Ælis you're so sweet thank you for your kind words... I feel like I don't deserve them
@ElizB You are very kind yourself and I know you totally deserve these words :-*
okee :)
Also, you should probably edit a link to your profile and candidature post in your meta anwser
1:34 PM
@Ælis oh, right. thank you for reminding me :)
You're welcome :)
@ElizB well, good luck! :)
@AJ Thanks :)
While I added my own answer, I want to say that I love this answer because it takes the "direct and honest" approach. — Jesse Steele 41 secs ago
#22048 Jesse Steele (311 rep) | A: How to ask if I can mow my neighbor's lawn (score: 75) | posted 3 days ago by Ash (2579 rep) | edited 3 days ago by Ash (2579 rep) | Toxicity 0.07443456 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]
@IPSCommentBot tp
1:40 PM
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I kinda want to post a troll nomination
Do it do it do it
I kinda have to do actual work now and didn't wanne take my laptop home so can't really do it :(
@ElizB ✊
@Imus Excuses excuses
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ 😊👍
1:46 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ perfectly valid ones, yes
For anyone that's around and wants to do some flagging, the comments on this post can be cleaned up now that the relevant information has been edited into the post itself
@Rainbacon Thanks for pointing that out :) puts away broom
2:11 PM
@Rainbacon I don't know if you saw but I answered your question you had for me in the questionnaire
Oh, excellent! I'll take a look when I have a minute!
@ElizB That's a really good answer, actually, I don't think you could have answered it better. You just made it really hard for me to decide how to allocate my votes.
@Rainbacon Pfft, no, it didn't make it harder for me
111 rep. I RULE YOU ALL
2:26 PM
What if someone has 1111 rep?
4 sucks, everyone knows that.
Not bad Eeps. I give your election drama 7 out of 10.
Yeah, figuring out which person to not vote for is hard
Figuring out how to get to 150 without posting is harder
ElizB is certainly getting one of mine. (She knows where I sleep...)
@El'endiaStarman everyone knows it, Starman.
Emphasis on "star".
I'm thinking you put on boots with wings every morning and run around.
2:30 PM
That's Hermes' job.
It used to be a feshionable choice like, 2000 years ago.
@El'endiaStarman I call nepotism!
@El'endiaStarman Whoa, so you're his boss?
uhhhhhh Yes! Yes of course I'm his boss. Why wouldn't I be?
@Rainbacon lol okay sorry :)
2:32 PM
I'm El'endia's boss, though, so you can direct complaints to me and I'll foist them onto Nike.
(nice one :) )
@Mithrandir Pfft yeah right
2:46 PM
@Mithrandir Pretty sure @ElizB is El'endia's boss
...she's like the super-boss.
@Rainbacon maybe :)
3:17 PM
why an awkward silence after that? :P
Oh, sorry. I do have to put some amount of attention into my actual job :p
(same here)
@Rainbacon yeah, I know... seems I'm the only one here that has mondays off hehe
Museum work is tuesday through friday
4:24 PM
@Ælis @NVZ I don't think your comments are going to be visible during the election, not much point in adding stuff there so close to the end of nomination phase.
6 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek
hmm. Don't y'all have an election chat?
in Shadow's Den on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 9 secs ago, by FOX 9000
@Marshmallow (づ•ʖ')づ︵uɐɯʎǝuɹnoſ
5:11 PM
@Tinkeringbell answered your questions, I hope it makes sense. You asked a great question! Thanks for challenging me :)
@ElizB You're welcome, and good luck with your run! I'm curious to see how it works out :)
Q: How to deal with negative background information while networking/ interviewing?

moreoverFor me it's an interpersonal question, so please don't suggest moving it to the workplace. So here's the story: I got bullied by my boss in the new job. After several months I came to the conclusion it's not worth it and quit. I got a lot of objective evidence my performance was great during my...

@Tinkeringbell Thanks. I was pleasantly surprised with some support when I thought about nominating myself. I'm curious to see how it works out too.
I think your nomination is what makes the election very interesting. Before you nominated I was fairly confident that I knew exactly what the outcome would be. Now I'm quite uncertain
5:39 PM
@Tinkeringbell me too ;-)
@Rainbacon oh, interesting :) we'll see how it turns out! :)

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