The Awkward Silence

Arthur Havlicek

6:32 AM

feel so demoted about working today

Tinkeringbell

7:55 AM

@ArthurHavlicek Only today? You're a lucky person :)

dhein

@Ælis Here it is: scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/q/12930/44517

And hey everyone :)

Arthur Havlicek

@Tinkeringbell Haha. Well I took a day off. I feel a bit bad to do that on last minute but it has been accepted so far.

Ælis

@dhein That's a very good meta post, thank you :) Also, you should probably post a "This answer is being discussed on meta" under the answer

Also, if it isn't too much work, could you keep me up to date regarding what happens with this answer? (if a consensus is reached or if an edit is made on it)

Tinkeringbell

@ArthurHavlicek Sounds good :)

Ælis

@ArthurHavlicek I hope you'll feel better tomorrow

CaldeiraG

8:03 AM

@scohe001 x)

Morning!

I had yesterday off :P because carnival holiday

Ælis

@ArthurHavlicek Also, don't feel bad about taking a day off. I'm pretty sure your employer would rather you take a day off than paying you for not doing nothing all day

CaldeiraG

I woke up very sleepy though

Tinkeringbell

I finally got a good nights sleep, for the first time this week :)

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell Yay for you!

dhein

8:18 AM

@Ælis Thank you. :) Yeah, just posted such comment after I wrote my message here :)

@Ælis I will try :)

Mithical

Erf, that answer has a lot of jargon in it

Tinkeringbell

@Ælis Yep. I can notice a difference already :)

dhein

Quality sleep is important :D

Tinkeringbell

Yes :)

Magisch

9:04 AM

There was a study that anecdotally showed that having 6 instead of 8 hours of sleep for 10 days straight reduces your mental awareness, intellectual performance and general wakefulness equivalently to staying up 2 days straight

so yeah, getting enough sleep each night is very important

avazula

AFAIK sleep and the quantity needed really depends on people

Tinkeringbell

That's true. I need way more than my parents or my brother to feel functional :)

avazula

I function best in all areas with 6 hours only

Magisch

part of it is quality of sleep

I really need to get a sleep study done sometime

Tinkeringbell

My fitbit seemed to suggest that my sleep between Monday and Tuesday was 'Fair' XD

It was only 4,5 hours.

avazula

9:10 AM

lol

Magisch

if I wore a fitbit it would be an unfitbit

avazula

I'm doubtful wrt smart devices when it comes to sleep

Whenever I feel like I had a shitty night my smart watch says my sleep depth was amazing. Heck no, I barely slept! :p

Tinkeringbell

It usually gets at least my time of falling asleep and waking up pretty right... but yeah.

dhein

@avazula Maybe you should have a discussion with your smart device and figure if the 2 of you have the asame understanding of "amazing"? :P

avazula

@dhein She's not very talkative :p

dhein

9:26 AM

@avazula The narrow-minded kind of smart device... I see... Its an apple, isn't it? :P

avazula

@dhein dear cash no, I'm not what you'd call a fan :p

Although I do have a macbook at work and so far it feels better than coding on Windows (it's still not as good as Linux but still :p)

I have a Withings.

Mithical

@avazula You're not a true fan unless you spin around blades really fast to create artificial wind.

5

CaldeiraG

@avazula Same

JAD

@Mithical it's called "hot air"

CaldeiraG

Mi Band 4 user here, it detects my sleep duration fine :D

But apparently if you sleep more you get worst rating for some reason

My band bugged and detected I was sleeping in the middle of day (when I wasn't) for like 7 hours plus my night hours and it said it was a terrible sleep :p

not sure if i have a screenshot of that

dhein

9:34 AM

@avazula It was rather an overt act stating my mind about apple, rather than intending to accuse you of using an apple device :P

@Mithical I was thinking the very same '^.^

CaldeiraG

@avazula you can use both on a Mac if you wish :p

it comes with a lot of work though

avazula

@dhein I understood :) but it was funny to go on :p

@CaldeiraG I know! I do it actually :p

#sysadmin

dhein

@avazula Duck me! >.< Again I managed to fail my own joke :D

avazula

9:55 AM

@dhein kwak

CaldeiraG

@avazula nice :)

Extroverted Main Man

10:21 AM

0

Q: My boyfriend has problems with his family and I don't know how to support him

Some background info • My boyfriend 23 • Me 21 • His brother 19 • His mom 45 • His father 53 I am in a relationship with my boyfriend for 4 years and we are living together for 2 years. At first 6 months we were rating then his family give us their house ( they have 3 ) which didn’t ...

Belle

woooooooooow

@ThelethalCarrot - After having been on the receiving end of a woke-brigade attack because I dared to suggest that Hermione might have a race rather than an ethnicity, I can only imagine the OP doesn't take kindly to people trying to push their own agendas onto their post — Valorum 2 mins ago

Mithical

...

Magisch

That user is (in)famously permanently (lifetime) banned from chat network wide

Mithical

...if anyone remembers to re-issue the suspensions...

Magisch

true, the original suspension runs out in 224 days

:D

Mithical

10:28 AM

*third

Magisch

still, persistently annoying and angering shog hard enough to eat one of the two (I think) only ever handed down lifetime chat bans is a feat

avazula

@ExtrovertedMainMan This is off topic, sadly... Do you think it'd be suited for the site if it was focused on how to tell their boyfriend it's not his fault instead?

Tinkeringbell

@avazula Only if it includes 'what have you tried already' or 'what do you think won't work/will go wrong'

As with every question ;)

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Of course.

Belle

@ExtrovertedMainMan I feel bad for them :\

avazula

10:43 AM

Me too

My family's pretty much a mess but I'm blessed by their love

JAD

hmm, sounds like a mess

Magisch

@JAD you have the same avatar as DarkCygnus but turned upside down

:D

JAD

@Magisch I consider that a matter of perspective

also, theirs is a bit more yellow

Belle

Nah, @JAD is turned 90 degrees to the left and DarkCygnus is turned 90 degrees to the right.

Magisch

doh!

dhein

10:57 AM

@avazula Thanks :'D

JAD

@Magisch but yeah, it's been like that for a while. Although mine went rightside up recently

dhein

Damn! I voted for DarkCygnus cause his avatar gave me an impression of feeling used to it. And since I find everyone in here socially skilled I voted for them despite I didn't like their text too much.... Huh anyways... With 3~4 candidates per side not that much of a decision to make x'D

JAD

11:41 AM

Not saying you should, but I think you can still change your votes

Magisch

heh

I'm running too

:D

although there's a strong field of candidates this year

CaldeiraG

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Q: What kind of things can you take from a hotel?

Hotels normally provide a big amount of sets (well, depending on the quality, but however, many!) that can help you feel more comfortable there. So for example you can get towels, slippers, candies, pens, shampoos, shaving kits, sponges, ... The same in the self-service breakfast: pastries, bre...

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My friend managed to take the cute receptionist, they have a kid now.. — Nean Der Thal Dec 12 '14 at 16:49

XD

Tinkeringbell

12:32 PM

@CaldeiraG Apt username too...

Caveman with a club dragging a wife ;)

CaldeiraG

:D

is @IPSCommentBot still alive?

@IPSCommentBot cat?

Belle

@CaldeiraG Being awake does sound like terrible sleep tbh

Ælis

12:53 PM

Yay, my internet is back! \o/ I will now go binge-watching my current favorite TV show :p

Belle

Wooo! Enjoy :D

avazula

@CaldeiraG It hasn't been for weeks now

CaldeiraG

1:10 PM

@Belle :p not wrong

@Ælis yay :) out of curiosity, what show?

Ælis

@CaldeiraG "Crash landing on you" (a korean love story)

CaldeiraG

@avazula Ah I see. Couldn't someone run it on a computer?

@Ælis nice, enjoy!

Ælis

Thanks :D

avazula

@CaldeiraG It's currently under troubleshooting. I'm trying to see if it's pingable

CaldeiraG

Since it's open-source and all

But I understand :)

avazula

1:13 PM

I wouldn't run it on my work computer ... and I don't really have time to see what's happening rn :/

CaldeiraG

I see :) just a idea I had

avazula

an understandable one :)

CaldeiraG

I couldn't run it on my computer because it's normally turned off when i'm off to bed/work

avazula

@CaldeiraG oh right, this too haha

CaldeiraG

1:33 PM

yeea :P i'm hoping to get a RPi working 24/7 after I upgrade my pc

avazula

I just got this while debugging

'm sad

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, I'd be too if that was only temporary ;)

Pretty cat :)

Belle

I'm proud of myself today. I was panicking because I had too many bills and there was no way I could pay them all before the due dates and the late fees kept piling up. I emailed all the people I owed money to ask them if I can pay in terms until enough responded so I could afford all the bills again, then paid the remaining ones. Finances sorted!

Arthur Havlicek

Financial problems give me a great deal of anxiety. It's fair to say I've made many choices in my life just to avoid that.

Belle

I've been dragging this out for months, paying way too much in late fees because I missed some payment when I struggled last summer. Turns out, if you're polite, companies are very happy to offer payment in terms for way less than the late fees.

Arthur Havlicek

1:48 PM

Good job. That must not be an easy thing to ask either

Belle

Thanks. It wasn't easy. My troubles were spiraling out of control because I kept refusing to sort them.

Most of them should be gone in 2 months, except for one that only had a 10 month payment plan. That bill is yearly and I'm automatically signed up for the payment plan for next year, so that's solved too :)

Tinkeringbell

@Belle \o/!

Most companies really are happier to have you pay in terms than having to pay people to make you pay the entire sum ;)

Magisch

except banks

banks will reorder charges to make you incur maximum late penalties

Tinkeringbell

I've read enough Twitter to know the American system is crap like that... it's basically a business model there, apparently. I've never had to do this with banks over here, just healthcare...

More good? news: Had a talk with the manager. He thinks I can do the taking over a coworkers job, but if I don't like it at all he'll help me find another project :D

avazula

2:08 PM

@Tinkeringbell :party:

Extroverted Main Man

0

Q: My girlfriend says that she might slow dance with other guys, is that okay?

There is a upcoming dinner/dance that my girl and I are going to. She told me that she might slow dance with other guys (ones that she knows) if they ask her. I said it was okay but it still bothers me but I didn't tell her I wasn’t fine with it. I’m fine with normal dancing but slow dancing with...

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Tinkeringbell

@avazula Maybe this weekend? ;)

avazula

@Tinkeringbell That'd be nice!

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Sorry, I went a bit crazy for a sec :p

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell I've never incured overcharge fees so far, so

CaldeiraG

@ExtrovertedMainMan Uh, OP deleted it

Tinkeringbell

2:20 PM

@Magisch Nope. I put the lower limit for my bank account on 0, I can't overdraft.

Magisch

same

also I'm financially super paranoid

Rainbacon

@Tinkeringbell Wait, your banks let you do that?

Magisch

yeah, you can set an overdraft limit

Rainbacon

We just have to know if our account is out of money and not try to use it if so to avoid penalties

Tinkeringbell

2:36 PM

@Rainbacon Yep.

avazula

@Magisch me too ...

Tinkeringbell

Which is good, but isn't as much appreciated by companies that can do an automated withdrawal, e.g. health care. They often send you an annoyed e-mail when their things bounce.

Though it's gotten better, and you usually get an e-mail first now that they're planning on taking money. Then you can make a quick call to e.g. ask them to wait a few weeks for the next paycheck or arrange terms :)

Magisch

2:49 PM

amusingly, I cant get the television authority to figure out how to deduct from my account

I have to call them to pester them that I owe them money

Tinkeringbell

o.O

I don't have television yet but I do hope it'll be better than yours! :P

because I would very much not bother to call...

JAD

I watch a grand total of 2 hours of tv a week :/

Tinkeringbell

Oh, I do watch a lot more... The 7:30 or 8 o'clock news, DWDD, and me and my parents have recently started watching 'Typisch' together too.

That last one is fun if you like people watching.

JAD

mostly sunday sports

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell it's tempting, but they asess a late fee of 20% total due every month of nonpayment after 3 (iirc), so if you wait long enough you'll make like the woman in the town over who owed them over 20k€ after a couple years

I dont watch tv, but I have a device that theorethically could (a computer) so I have to pay monthly

avazula

3:00 PM

o_o

I don't pay television tax

Cause I don't have a TV o/

@Magisch :/, they want to do that over here too

JAD

I don't think we have tv tax

they just assume everybody has a tv and fund the public broadcasters from other tax sources

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Ah, oops. That sounds massively unfair.

JAD

it does. Taxes are fine and all, but it shouldn't be my responsibility to remind the agencies that I owe them

Magisch

In an ideal world, it shouldn't be. They keep sending me mail saying I have to pay them, but the payment option I selected is autodraft (which they're bad at doing, apparently)

CaldeiraG

I've always been confused about the TV tax, especially in the UK
I have people who say there is only a tax applied if you want to watch BBC content, other says that even if you're using youtube on the computer you need to pay the tax

All in all kinda of a mess

Magisch

3:14 PM

over here the only way you get out of paying it is if you have no device that can receive or disseminate public TV offerings (nothing with internet, no smartphone, no tv, no radio)

so more or less everyone pays

CaldeiraG

I pay on the taxes, it's like 4€ per month on the water bill I think (or less)

@Magisch yeah that's what I'm usually familiar with

Magisch

I think it's 22€ a month here?

unsure

JAD

for tv?!

Belle

In Netherlands TV is mandatory to pay for tv. It's generally included in your gas and electricity contract for some reason.

Magisch

17.50€ I was wrong, 17.50€ per month for all public tv, radio and websites

JAD

3:24 PM

@Belle uh? what? I haven't heard that one before

only reason I have TV is because it's part of the internet package

@Magisch that's pretty steep

Belle

Mine's €13.95 iirc. I don't even use it :\

JAD

wait, is that just tax or do you then also get the actual content? @Magisch

Magisch

Thats the fee you pay

for having a TV capable device

the content itself is freely available on the tv, radio and internet

JAD

but you would still have to pay the tv provider to get the tv signal?

Magisch

yea

CaldeiraG

3:40 PM

17.50€ plus the cable tv + internet plan, that's a pretty big bill

CaldeiraG

4:30 PM

reddit.com/r/funny/comments/f8uo59/…

avazula

@CaldeiraG ^ :'(

Belle

Eeeehhh ^^'

Em C

@CaldeiraG ... what if my car is already paid off (too dark?)

avazula

@EmC Depends ... what color is it? :p

Em C

just noticed the link title: "seen at my local car dealership". that's a bit worse lol

@avazula silver :D

avazula

4:37 PM

Wooh!

Winter fairy!

It's Over

4:48 PM

White walker

Em C

my last car was white!

I don't know enough to know if that's a good thing to compare it to though..

M.A.R.

7:09 PM

@EmC They're pretty darn cool, come on

They just happened to be on the wrong side of the story

Em C

I'll take your word for it :p

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. Hey, you're you again :)

M.A.R.

In the name, or in spirit?

Tinkeringbell

name ;)

M.A.R.

Good, spirits are haram

Tinkeringbell

7:15 PM

The alcoholic kind or the horror movie kind?

M.A.R.

Well, I changed it because I remembered how painful it was when folks changed their username and avatar

@Tinkeringbell or

And well, because Sha.

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 3 hours ago, by Shadow Wizard is Ear For You

(you'll always be M.A.R for me ;))

Tinkeringbell

Sha should stick his nose in his own business :P

M.A.R.

Hmm, that he hasn't been

I bet his nose is one of those hawky slender noses

I've already given a description of mine

Em C

@M.A.R. I may have used sneaky mod powers to figure out who you were before you changed it back >.>

M.A.R.

. . . which is a very weird thing to say in chats. And unsettling a bit.

Tinkeringbell

7:17 PM

@M.A.R. I don't know... I can't get a good idea from his Twitter pic.

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell No blue doves in Iran

Tinkeringbell

Ah. Well, given there's such a thing as privacy on the internet, you'll have to take my word for it then.

M.A.R.

@EmC Well, it was mostly because of myself

Mithical

@Tinkeringbell His WhatsApp profile picture isn't any help either... ;)

M.A.R.

I like a half-sense of half-consistency

25 %

@Tinkeringbell Only for a few months.

Or maybe it's already over.

I'm pretty sure Google bot can predict my next message

Banana milkshake Ford muscle car Titanic

Pretty sure it predicted that.

Ælis

7:22 PM

Oh, cute picture @M.A.R.!

Tinkeringbell

of course it did :)

M.A.R.

@Mithical well, people say what's inside is important, yet I don't see anyone putting a CT image of themselves on their profile.

@Ælis Perspective. I say it's an evil kitten plotting for world dominance

Or maybe it's a CT image of me.

There's a kitten inside me, controlling every movement.

Ælis

@M.A.R. Yeah, that does sound more like you :p

M.A.R.

Ratatouille but rated R.

Extroverted Main Man

10:05 PM

0

Q: What should I take into consideration when resuming conversations online after an extended lack of contact?

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Em C

@ExtrovertedMainMan those first two tags... :thinking:

Extroverted Main Man

10:24 PM

0

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I quit my last job because the project I was working on didn't seem to go anywhere and I was disappointed by that. I took a long break to change my mindset and to do some other not-job relevant stuff. Recently a headhunter approached me with some job offers. Due to the break the job hunt isn't g...

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