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Q: Is it written anywhere in Ramayana that Ravana failed to defeat Nivatakavacha and Kalakeyas?

sumanIs it written anywhere in Ramayana that Ravana failed to defeat Nivatakavacha and Kalakeyas? If it is true then can you give me link of that section?

 
I never heard those name, so searched on google about "Nivatakavacha" and fount wikipedia page in which they told Ravana couldn't defeat Nivatakavacha. He was actually defeated by Arjuna. Arjuna did defeat and killed him on the command of his father Indra. After reading this now I am confused that did Arjuna was even more powerful than Ravana? I am confused now.
 
@Rishabh Arjuna was indeed better warrior than Ravana, in Archery even Rama was not equal to Arjuna
 
Are you serious.....? You saying arjun was even better than Rama!!! Rama's archery is better than all.... Rama's bow never misses it's target that's why people use to say Ram baan ilaaj when ever they need to convince someone. And am not saying Rama is best on behalf of my imagination. But It is proven by Lord Hanuman Himself that Rama was better than Arjuna. If you want proof then Watch this... Part 1 and Part 2. and Part 3.
Hanuman Himself meet Arjuna in Dwapar Yuga and make Arjuna realise that He is not Best archer in the world but Best is Shree Ram. See above mentioned Parts and you will come to know who is best archer above all.
 
Ramananad's serial is best worst serial of india. According to original mahabharat, Hanumana never met with Arjuna......... WHY ARJUNA WAS BETTER THAN RAMA.....1) APART FROM ARJUNA NO ONE could shoot the arrow within a range of 2 miles.....2) Arjuna alone defeated all kaurava warrior in virat war, did Rama ever achieve this feat, in reality meghnad had defeated him
 
@suman Have not you read about Lord Rama defeating the asura army many times? Take the example of Vishwamitra yajna protection, killing of Tadaka, killing of Kumbhakarna, killing of Ravana and many more. Rama was Narayana himself. With the help of same Narayana as Krishna, Arjuna has achieved those feets. So, comparing these two is not right thing because both appeared in different era and faced different conditions. And in Valmiki Ramayana there is no mention of Ravana being defeated by Nivatakavachas or Kalakeyas.
 
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@Triyugi, I think you are a vaishnava, Ashwthama was also a reincarnation of Mahadeva that does not mean he was greater than Krishna........Arjuna too defeated Many Rakshasa during exile and i accept that Lord Vishnu was far superior warrior than Arjuna but Not Rama
 
@suman No I do not belong to any sect. Ashvatthama was not pure incarnation of Lord Mahadeva. He was mixed incarnation of Rudra, Krodha, Kama, Yama.
@suman In Gita Lord Krishna says रामः शस्त्रभृतामहम् means I am Rama among the wielder of weapon.
 
Ashwthama was partial reincarnation of Mahadeva....Krishna too was partial reincarnation of Vishnu then in any manner he was superior than Krishna as per your logic.... TEXT:- And he, called Vasudeva, endued with great valour, was among men a #portion of him called Narayana--the god of gods--eternal. sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01068.htm
In gita Krishna says I am Parshurama among the wielder of weapon.
 
@suman If you consider him Parashurama then the same Parashurama has been pacified by Sri Rama.
@suman I would like to let you know that I am not comparing Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva. Because that will be sinful for me.
 
@suman You are saying Arjuna was great archer above all time lol. Let me tell you something... Forget about great archer of all time BUT he was not greater even in Dwapar yoga (Mahabharat time). How is that? Because there was more powerful warrior than Arjuna Himself was present in Mahabharat war, whom Arjuna can't even dream to defeat them. Those warriors were Bhishma and Dronacharya. Did you forgot, how they both were killed? Arjuna could never defeat even those two warriors and you are saying he is better than Lord Ram. You common sense has lost somewhere.
@suman Arjuna couldn't even defeat Karna in Mahabharat. Did you forgot that also, Karna was got killed by Arjuna just bcause of curse of Bhagwan Parshuram. Did you forgot the death of karna? Arjuna was not capable of defeating Karna also. AND Lord Rama alone did defeat Khar and Dushan (which was equal to Ravan in power) with all his army in Panchwati.
@suman And Lord Hanuman did meet Bheema and Arjuna in Dwapar yuga.
 
@Triyugi bhisma also defeated Parshurama that does not mean he was greater than Rama
 
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@suman Parashurama was not defeated by Bhishma. Read full part.
 
@Rishabh it is clear like water that you have never read original mahabharat. 1) Hanumana never met with Arjuna 2) Arjuna was far superior archer than Bhisma, Drona and karna 3) Bhisma and Karna were killed fairly as per original Mahabharat
@Triyugi Parshurama himself told bhisma that you defeated me
Parshurama said:- Beholding the Praswapa weapon withdrawn, O lion among kings, Rama was in great huff, and suddenly exclaimed, 'Wretch that I am, I am vanquished, O Bhishma!' sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05188.htm
We have not clear proof that he was Rama or parshurama hence forget Krishna's word
 
@suman Who is we have?
 
@suman when Arjuna killed Bhishma that time Bhishma was not attacking and he wasn't even fighting. GO and check then talk. And Karna also forgot his mantra to summon power bows thats why Arjuna could kill him.
 
@Rishabh @suman @TriyugiNarayanMani Continue the discussion in chat.
 
@TheDestroyer Thanks. BTW do you know why I was not seeing the option of of "move this discussion to chat" ?
 
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@TriyugiNarayanMani maybe because OP has less than 20 rep. Not sure. let me check.
 
@TheDestroyer ok
 
@Rishabh give me proof for your all nonsense claim
 
@suman Which claim you are pointing to please let me know? And also please read this: hinduism.stackexchange.com/help/be-nice
 
@TriyugiNarayanMani Arjuna's arch rival karna said on 17th day about Arjuna to Shalya.
Narr:- "'Karna said, "As far as I have heard, such a superior car-warrior has never been born on earth! Behold my prowess, since I will contend in battle with even that Partha who is such. This prince of Kuru's line, this foremost of car-warriors, careers in battle, borne by his steeds white in hue. Perhaps he will despatch me to Yama's abode today. TEXT:- Karna said, "As far as I have heard, such a superior car-warrior has never been born on earth! Behold my prowess, since I will contend in battle with
@TriyugiNarayanMani Rishab told me that Arjuna killed weaponless bhisma hence i asked him that give me proof for your claim
 
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@suman Formerly, in my absence, Janaki was once carried away into the city of Lanka, on the other side of the great ocean and I brought her back ;what wonder it is that I shall get her back from Patala ?O goddess Vasudha, do thou soon bring Sita in my view, or else, worked up with fire I shall give thee the fruits of thy negligence.

Thou art my mother in law, since the royal saint Janaka obtained Sita from thy womb while cultivating thee with plough share. Do thou therefore bring back my Sita or give me a region of the Devas, I wish to live with Sita. I am beside myself for her: do thou th
 
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Why you gave me this proof?
 
 
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@suman Just because you gave me last one.
 
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BTW I have posted the answer on your question. What do you think?
 
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I had given the proof that According to karna, Arjuna was better than everyone but your proof does not prove that he was better than Arjuna
I agree with your answer
 
@suman It all depends on perception and everyone perception is not same. No problem. If you are satisfied with answer you can accept that.
 

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