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12:00 AM

eventually touched down, and damn i've never stopped that fast in my life! i suspect the pilot needed new shoes from pressing down on the brakes so hard

what was the german flight? we can't find it

UA96

it's there, but i think simon's got a few of the facts wrong

damn, avherald doesn't catch everything apparently

it has that one

avherald.com/h?article=4547f10a&opt=0

they went off runway 11, not 4L

avherald.com/h?article=4547f10a&opt=0

yeah just found it, haha

now I kinda want to find out the date I had my RyanAir landing and see if it's on here

12:03 AM

he only reports on what are officially "Crashes" "accidents" and "incidents", based on their official definitions

so a lot of stuff doesnt make it

yeah

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RoflcoptrException

1:46 AM

so tell me more about your scariest landings @MarkMayo and @Doc ;)

Personally, I hadn't any real scary landing. THe most unfcofortable landing I had so far was in Amsterdam this winter. The day before our flight was postponed the whole day and finally cancelled because of a winterstorm. They next day we got an early morning flight that really made it to Amsterdam but then we hit the ground 3 times before the pilot could finally get it down in this windy conditions.

yah, i've had a few of them

in fact, one yesterday was pretty damn ugly

but as they say, any landing you can walk away from is a good landing

and if you can use the plane again, it's a great landing :)

RoflcoptrException

lol ;)

yes today I also had a not so pleasant one

had to do a second try

as in a go-around, or just a bounce?

RoflcoptrException

go around

first he bounced a couple of times and then I think there was not enough runway left and he pulled up again

but was a very small plane

2:10 AM

wow that'd be intense

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7:50 AM

bah rugby's not australian - go mock the poms

8:46 AM

@hippietrail I was asking about nudity in hot springs in NZ because of a Japanese person asking about hot springs in other countries, and I realized I didn't know the situation for NZ lang-8.com/302080/journals/1632103/…

9:40 AM

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So I got inked this weekend! Wooo! :D

9:52 AM

what does it say?

42

:D

You read or heard of Hitchhiker's guide?

Like the one where the mice build a giant computer?

Only to get #2 destroyed by some road construction project?

Yes, I remember that :)

@RoflcoptrException: I've had a few rather windy landings, but the one that probably scared me the most was with a really old 707 where the arm rests were coming apart. As we landed, the oxygen masks came down due to the plane bumping so hard. It was a scary moment of "Oh, $#!+", before I realized that we were on the ground, and thus everything was going to be alright (as long as nothing important fell off during taxiing)

@Jonas Yep. Exactly that! :D

Scary flight btw that you describe!

fortunately, the scary part was over fast

ok, time for lunch :)

10:26 AM

google.nl/…

42 = google.nl/…

@AnkurBanerjee What is the cross inbetween the 4 and the two indicating? As a amateur mahjong player I recognise the 4 and the 2, but not the cross.

Oh that's a 10. So a number like 42 needs needs a multiplier...it reads 'four ten two'

Ah thanks

Do you know of a resource where I can understand this way of numbering? I am kind of a numberphile, loving for example the way the french depict 80 as 4 times 20

If you're specifically talking about Chinese, the Wikipedia entry on it quite comprehensive how the numbers are written, or fractions etc in Chinese. Japanese also uses the same numerals.

Chinese numerals

Chinese numerals are characters for writing numbers in Chinese. Today speakers of Chinese use three numeral systems: the ubiquitous Indian (Arabic) system used world-wide and two indigenous systems. The more familiar indigenous system are Chinese characters that correspond to numerals in the spoken language. These are shared with other Sinospheric languages such as Japanese and Korean. Most people and institutions in China primarily use the Indian (Arabic) system for convenience, with traditional Chinese numerals used mainly in some formal or ceremonial occasions such as on printed mon...

The Google Translate app can read that as '42' correctly too!

Thanks, I ended op at a different less quality wp article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture

Which brings me to an alternative reading of my tattoo: 'four' sounds like death, 'two' signifies happiness, and the ten well the ten looks like a plus sign.

11:24 AM

It is always important to know the deeper meaning. Once I bought a beautiful t shirt in China, only to be laughed at on return, since it actually was saying 100% cotton

Martin Tapankov

at least it wasn't anything obscene

Hahahaha. What would be truly epic is if you bought a silk shirt or a woollen sweater and THAT said 100% cotton.

But, I was fairly sure of the meaning since I've studied elementary Chinese and also confirmed it with my Chinese friends. They told me the second interpretation.

11:47 AM

@hippietrail what's Australian? Short track speed skating?

12:14 PM

australian rules football of course

(not that i'm a fan of that either)

@AnkurBanerjee: i almost took a photo of a 42 for you yesterday

being on the ground isn't everything. next test is to not overshoot the runway (-:

@AndrewGrimm: in georgian everything is base 20 - more than in french

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1:33 PM

@Andra I think Hippietrail's at message was directed at you.

@hippietrail Why 'almost'? :(

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4:08 PM

@hippietrail ferries are different than freighters ??

yea i guess

@HaLaBi: yeah ferries are mainly for passengers, possibly in vehicles, with a fixed repeating route, though most also carry cargo

so, u want to get into a cargo ship?

@HaLaBi: while freighters are specifically for cargo. they're usually enormous ocean going ships, some take a couple of passengers but most people are unaware of this

freighter is the same word for freighter in planes...

5:07 PM

freighter-travel

> Travelling as a passenger in ships which are used mostly for carrying cargo.

@AnkurBanerjee - the tattoo reads the same in Japanese too, which works out well for you :)

wikitravel.org/en/Freighter_travel

probably in korean too for anybody old enough to know hanja

@littleadv - while I understand you don't want to use chat, the site's rules do say that comments are not meant to be chatty and there's a reason it suggest you go off to the chat room. Each person comes here for their own reasons, but the faq rules apply to all.

probably in korean too for anybody old enough to know hanja

And the next time a person throws an insult around in the comments, I'm suspending hippietrail for mocking rugby ;)

5:19 PM

:)

rugby

isn't that the sport where peple run and fight each other??

the only kind of football where kicking the ball is generally not done

there's lots of kicking!

esp when England or France are playing

Yay, I've got picking up Chinese/Japanese/Korean(?) chicks covered!

Although probably they'll run the other direction on seeing '4'

:D

not so much fighting. but lots of falling over and getting back up again

also the only kind of football which is actually two kinds of football d-:

5:22 PM

i guess ice hockey is the best sport in the game

it has unwritten rules for fighting.... thats cool

maybe they do kick the ball in one of those kinds, but not in the kind they play in sydney. in the rest of australia they don't play either kind

han character tattoos are considered very gauche in east asia - people don't understand why anyone would get them

much like us westerners think east asians wearing t-shirts with random english words or phrases is weird

... except you can always change your t-shirt (-;

he can cut off his arm...

I'm sure it's the rage in Asia to get 'Big Mac' tattooed on your arm without understanding what it means.

pictures of cute bunnies and kittens with random inappropriate words like "vagina" or "fuck" seem to be disturbingly popular

the problem with ice hockey if you weren't raised on it is ... where the hell is that little puck thing? it's fricken invisible from any seat in the stadium!

there's a website of that

all the mistakes tattoos

5:26 PM

a canadian friend of mine years ago in australia got a han character tatt. he wanted "wild man" and got "field" (-:

@hippietrail there's a tech that draws a contrail behind the puck

they tried it out but the fans got really upset

that website is awesome! the best i saw was a guy with a character tatt on each forearm. ... together they meant "semen"! (=

all north american sports are chock full of endless tedious boring commercial timeouts for the TV ads where the action stops or they play silly games with somebody from the crowd

Probably intentional. Showing off about his motile sperm to mail-order East Asian brides.

no not intentional. the two characters separately were something like "spirit" and "power" or something

awesome

5:31 PM

there must be a website for inappropriate english usage in east asia too

let me dig out a photo ...

Just search for 'Chinglish'

you'll get lots of hits for ones that aren't really very funny though - like browsing 9gag d-:

man i'd really love to find a way to spend some time in seoul on the way home for some reason

man i'd really love to find a way to spend some time in seoul on the way home for some reason

eureka! inappropriate english sign found in seoul!

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5:49 PM

Wasn't there also a book on the topic. Something like "no shitting in the toilet" Let me google a bit

yes that was the name of a travel book by an aussie years ago i think. great title!

My one favorite "chinglish" example is from a warning message on the ferry between Osaka and Shanghai. "In case of an emergency don't get excited"

(-:

they should ensure they only have dull or boring emergencies

Can only locate: amazon.co.uk/No-Shitting-Toilet-Peter-Moore/dp/0553814516

but this is not what I was think about, there is also a a book with photo examples :(

Btw, open questions guys: have you come across experiences of people having problems in job interviews because of visible tattoos?

5:54 PM

hmm not in my line of work

Of course. :p

More the merrier in your line of work

work compatible tattoos are a bit of a wank in my opinion though d-:

they say "i'm only a wild boy when i'm not working for the man"

I think I'll ask this on workplace.stackexchange.com

"rebel (excepting monday to friday from 9am to 5pm)"

Do you want to work in a workplace where they want to make a fuss about something so personal?

Questions on stackexchanges are considered in job interviews ;)

5:58 PM

"tough, individual, cool, and reliably employed!"

i wonder if there's anybody who has tons of tattoos but only on the bits not covered by officewear? (-:

most employers i know monitor all stackexchange chatrooms

All very true. But I'm just wondering what company policy is in the software / electronics industry.

The aussie is Peter Moore

the travel writer

his book Swahili for the Brokenhearted was wesome

overlanded from Cape Town to Cairo

I am actually now looking for sysadmin person and honestly I wouldn't be bothered by a tattoo

but that is only one opinion

i often drop the phrase "no shitting in the toilet" into travel-related conversations pretty regularly and nobody has ever gotten the reference

Also, the people judging you in the initial stages of an interview are often HR people, even though eventually working in a technical team my manager / coworkers might not care.

Nice one @hippietrail! ;)

6:01 PM

ah yes i've heard of all those titles but read none of them. my reading list is more Dan Dennett and Hugh Selby Jr

HR people are a completely different beast from the actual people you may be working with.

You should also try to contact the initial manager, HR people usually make fusses about many things

we only hire people with prison tatts on the face

:D

Hahahahahhaha

6:03 PM

man the interwebs are being very elusive right now

me being naive and blond, what is a prison tattoo?

HR people are the most likely to have tattoos just above where the work shirts' sleeves end

And then typically an initial of the ex from 5 years ago

do HR people buy their business shirts based on memorizing their tatt measurements in millimetres ... or do they get their tatts based on memorizing their business shirts' sleeve lengths?

you can make them outside prison though. in highschool start with a compass and a ballpoint pen with the end pulled off

prison tattoos are ones done without proper or sterilized equipment while in prison, either from another inmate or yourself

Listing questions are not allowed, otherwise What are epic travel novels would be epic

6:07 PM

sometimes prison tatts are administered as punishment. especially ones on the face. i remember a story of some guy who pissed off the other guys and they held him down and tattooed "i like fish n chips" on his forehead!

@Andra: we can always do that as a topic in our blog if we ever do it

Ask in literature.SE, if you can find some way of limiting scope.

There are quite some classics like the one on "No shitting in the toilet" or "are you experienced" that I know of, there must be a lot still to read

Lets start travelLiterature.se ;)

chat events could be for fun i suppose, not just for boosting our stats

or as part of a chat event

lit.SE is d.e.a.d.

I thought they got merged

hmm could be but i know it's gone

maybe just the scifi and fantasy bits or something like that

i tried to use it a bit but it was disappointingly crap

ooh we finally have the very ambigous washington tag!

do we fix it the korea way or the georgia-state way?

apparently we already have washington-dc so i would go with adding -state and not having the unhyphenated version at all

6:19 PM

Yeah I'd go with -state and -dc

Both are fairly common

@hippietrail did you already have flightlesstravel.com/plan/cargo-ships among your bookmarks?

ask on meta or get a diamond in the chat room to do the work? hell it has no tagwiki i could just nude and replace but then i'll eventually get the badge instead of the real first one to tag

@Andra: doesn't ring a bell. lemme look...

it lists some resources on cargoship traveling

well the interwebs are working again but now the battery is low and no outlet in sight... see how hard life is for us globetrotters?!

@hippietrail A bit late now, but for future reference kickstarter.com/projects/761285911/…

6:25 PM

isn't kickstarter for people who have money to give it to funky projects?

I love giving newbies training sessions at work where you sound knowledgeable, all while trying to cover your own cluelessness :)

it would be even better if it did solar tracking so you didn't have to keep moving it

A valid question might be to ask for epic travel books on overlanding from Cape Town to Cairo, for example

although it's s till really asking for a list

anyone here a web designer?

not that i think that would be a great question but i've said before that the "no lists" thing shouldn't be taken as dogma but as a way to say "no open ended questions"

yeah I know, thus the might - there might be a question in there somewhere, it just depends on the wording

6:30 PM

some questions pretty much ask for lists of one item or two items and i think they're fine

others ask for something very precise and get a long list of answers ... like longest tour

yeah, longest tour should have garnered one or two answers

knee-jerk reaction based on interpreting SE rules dogmatically considered harmful (-;

Any new answerer should ONLY be answering if they've found a longer tour than any on that list

but I still get more :/

Is this OT? travel.stackexchange.com/questions/9060/…

no i think longest tours is absolutely fine as it is. it's not like before the question was here there was a single reliable go-to source of the one true answer

6:32 PM

well it's immigration, so yes

Well something like: "I am looking for a book I can read on the plane on Osaka, so I could do a walk in Osaka following the story when I arrive"

oi! no nude URLs!

seems okay.

immigration is off topic, and they're stating that they're moving from Canada to Washington

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Q: Why shouldn't we use the word 'here' in a textlink

Over the years of surfing on the web I have found numerous examples of people telling to not use the word "here" in a textlink. Personally I like the idea of using the word, because it is so straightforward for your visitors to know where to click. The only reason that I can truly think of is fo...

copywriting hyperlinks

6:33 PM

I am not sure. You also need to import a car if you intend to travel for longer times

("this" is just as bad, next to the link instead of in it is worse. so there.)

@Andra - sure, but they do say they're MOVING to Washington

so if they change the wording

Nyah, most cases you can just drive between Canada and US. This guy is talking about moving.

you are right

sorry tried to be the devils advocate

6:34 PM

Different laws apply. I don't think it's like the EU where anything goes anywhere.

it probably does make a difference if you're going to become a resident vs being a visitor - it definitely does in australia

anything except headscarves or roma campsites in france

@AnkurBanerjee - you going to close it then? Or do you want me to?

I like this open and transparent discussion among admins +1

hey quit eavesdropping!

I am going to smack this question with my iron fist!

6:37 PM

sweet

I've occasionally thought about a private admin chat room, but it's nice when it's transparent

@Andra In cases of doubt, mods often discuss it here whether to close, what to do, etc. You should hang out here more often!

except when people refuse to come in the chat room to discuss an issue

We are looking for a sysadmin who can explain ODOSOS, hence the +1

similar question: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/882/… - but this time they are doing it for a travelling purpose, so it stays open

(sorry hippie, naked URLs are the best) ;)

stalin that MOFO question!

in georgia all new police stations are made of glass as a symbol of the new transparency!

6:40 PM

Even the toilet cubicles???

i don't like SLAs

@MarkMayo Lets leave that issue for what it is ;) My first "bad" travel.se experience

i'm not clicking that fricken nude URL - my browser memory is full! d-:

don't make me work on my vacation man!

Link whoring:

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Q: Should I disclose about tattoos I have during a job interview?

I'm an undergraduate student in electronics / software engineering and I recently got a (visible) tattoo on my forearm (about 8cm / 3in) long. Now I understand this could be a problem, say, working in the retail sector where a company wants to present a professional image - but is it really a pro...

interviewing hiring-process

I wonder when we'll graduate... :/

only if you're also planning to disclose your drug experimentation stories and how you lost your virginity d-:

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AKA don't answer any questions they don't ask

6:44 PM

Don't ask, don't tell. Got it. Although I hear that applies to a different context...

@Andra - they've continued to chat on other questions yesterday though - extended discussions. I locked the post, so it'll be interesting to see what they think of that. :/

not travel related but: yro.slashdot.org/story/12/08/20/1535254/…

@MarkMayo Which discussion?

nice and unclothed just how you lot like it

I deleted some more comments

@hippietrail Hahahahaha yes I read that on Ars

6:45 PM

@AnkurBanerjee - yeah I saw you cleared them out

but look at this: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/9031/…

the comments just keep going :/

I suggest a suspension if he does it again. That's what the Teacher's Lounge would say.

but miss he started it!

@MarkMayo Okay but at least THIS was an on-topic discussion.

I told him yesterday to come into the chat to discuss it, he said he doesn't come on here for a chat room. So I'll see if he says anything about me locking the post, and I commented and tagged his name a couple of hours ago in here

ok time to suspend before all my electrons are gone

6:47 PM

Even though they should be having it here.

on that answer yes, although it goes on for ages, but on the answer below there's more downvote war talks

1

Q: Getting driver license in Washington state when moving from Canada (BC)

I live in BC, Canada and have Class 5 driver license. I want to move to the USA (state Washington) in H1-B status and wondering how I can get US driver license. I heard that there is some kind of agreement between BC and Washington state and no exams or tests needed, so it is simple exchange. Is ...

usa canada driving-licenses british-columbia washington-state

if he's moving to Washington, isn't this immigration too? :(

we could reword it to make it not immigration I suppose

i thought you just covered that question

two different questions

one was about a car, one is about the driver's license

(though it's hard to tell without clicking on the URLs you lazy buggers paste here)

Oh wait yes. Close that too. Even though it has an answer.

6:49 PM

100% expat

Indeed that question initiated a rant beyond comprehension. But what do you guys think of the initial question? I was constantly in doubt whether or not to vote it to close because it is more an expat question then a travel question. The thing is that I also know people doing this to fund their travels

ok by for now dudes

Bye bye!

cya

i shall return

6:50 PM

sonofa you closed it 7 seconds before me

well he is asking about travelling and working

@littleadv We appreciate that you're carrying out extended discussions to try and get the right answer on that visa question, but you really should be having the discussions here. If you want, you can create a separate chatroom for those discussions between all the people there and ping them to join you. Comments are not the place to have extended discussions, hence the post was locked by @MarkMayo. It's just not StackExchange policy.

I am switching off. I will try to join you more often

See ya!

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8:30 PM

0

Q: How many days to know Tokyo?

I'm going for a 10-day trip to Japan and need to schedule it. For this question to not be specific for my case and useful to others, I'd like to know how many days is a good number to get to know Tokyo. This question is still very dependent on how long someone would stay in Japan, so let's say, ...

too subjective and vague, IMHO. Thoughts and votes appreciated.

I agree. If he doesn't edit, close

will give him an hour

since I'm sitting at my desk, bored, watching our deployment take all day

ooh i'm officially outspoken (-:

just like any 20-30 million inhabitant city, a few hours should suffice

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haha

8:48 PM

that georgia rescue question is timely - apparently a girl fell off a cliff just today or yesterday

URGENT! Polish tourist missing in Georgia!

9:23 PM

@Doc and @RoflcoptrException - avherald.com - plane impacted a mountain today during a go-around.

9:54 PM

@AnkurBanerjee: your tatt question is the hottest question in all of SE!

wow!

I'm so putting it on hackernews to see if I can get a referral badge on workplace

at least the answers are being consistent

we need a similar travel quesiton

like do any countries get upset about certain tattoos when you're entering their borders

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11:25 PM

and it's already in the top 100 questions on workplace

11:37 PM

Never thought it'd take off like that. o.O

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