The Classroom

Gypsy Spellweaver

12:01 AM

I think Ben & Peter are solidly in. 3rd is likely to be Itamar.

Itamar is in a different timezone, so he can be available when the other two aren't

Ben I.

12:21 AM

What a great day on the site. Seven questions, and three of them were in completely new directions!!

Gypsy Spellweaver

I like that we've got an autodidact asking questions. Something I think this site can include, but a fine line to walk as well.

I hope the self-learners site on Area 51 ends up working. That'd be perfect.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

1:23 AM

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Q: Is there any risk management tool at the enterprise level for features like sparse resources management?

Is there any risk management tool at the enterprise level for features like sparse resources management?

risk-management

The body is the same as the title.

That's kind of lazy.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Guess he didn't know what else to say.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

I flagged it because it seems like he/she is asking for a product recommendation which is off topic on InfoSec.SE

Gypsy Spellweaver

Hope you didn't refer him to software rec. Not a quality question at all.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

I didn't

Gypsy Spellweaver

kewl

Henry WH Hack v2.0

1:33 AM

Even The wish geek will look at that question in disgrace.

@JourneymanGeek Take a look at this question.

reply: WHAT THE?

Gypsy Spellweaver

:))

Henry WH Hack v2.0

trying to make a video with OBS screen recoder

It's kind of hard

Henry WH Hack v2.0

2:08 AM

Top 5 Twitch Pranks - GFM

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@GypsySpellweaver I am from the Electronics Safety Inc.

But some salt and milk in your router to prevent dangerous levels of radiation.

While you are at it delete system42.

LOL! :D

Ben I.

Why don't I get points for upvoted comments any more? Is there some level at which comments become worthless, even if folks upvote them?

"worthless" was the wrong word. I still make comments because I clearly still think they have value.

Gypsy Spellweaver

2:44 AM

133

Q: Reputation for comments?

I have seen many good comments that really improve the quality of questions and answers, and I think they deserve a bit of reputation (maybe just 1 point) for a upvote.

feature-request status-declined reputation comments

@BenI. ^^^

Ben I.

2:56 AM

Am I crazy? I thought I remembered there being 2 reputation for a comment upvote.

I am looking through meta, and it appears that the reason that my comments no longer give me reputation is because they never did in the first place, and I am entirely misremembering.

Gypsy Spellweaver

I thought they had given me rep as well, but haven't really paid attention to it.

I guess it's just that there are badges for comments, especially in meta.

Ben I.

We'll be darned close to the 150 questions RC wanted by this coming Tuesday. One week late isn't terrible.

Peter

3:24 AM

Plus, our stats have all been on the rise. The trendline is important.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Over all, I think it's looking positive.

Peter

For sure

Gypsy Spellweaver

@BenI. Been looking into my early rep awards, on other sites. Never got anything for comments. Found a bounty I never noticed getting though :/

And another one. Maybe I should be paying more attention.

Peter

I got 2 points for a comment the other day on a different site

Made me wonder as well

Gypsy Spellweaver

Which site?

Peter

3:33 AM

RaspberryPi.SE

Gypsy Spellweaver

Are you sure it wasn't for an approved edit?

Peter

Ahhh...good point

You're right

Gypsy Spellweaver

Ever since I got the 20 needed for chat, the only time I even notice rep is when I try to DV and it tells me I need >125 to do that.

Five of my sites I'm still <125 cause I only read them once in a while, and have no questions or answers to offer.

Peter

Same

Gypsy Spellweaver

I keep getting stray points for drive-by answers that I don't even remember giving until the points show up.

Like yesterday, got +10 for my easter egg post on MSE, last I knew it'd been DV'd

But I guess the one UV canceled the 2 DV in rep, even if the score is still -1

Peter

3:43 AM

Weird

Ben I.

@Peter You hadn't heard about the bimodal distribution of CS scores? I spent years and years thinking that was a thing.

Peter

Nope - never

I've only been doing tech for 2 years, teaching CS for 1 (previous English for 7)

Gypsy Spellweaver

Dang, 680/1562 of my rep on SU is just for edits! Maybe they ought to put a cap on that.

Ben I.

There is a cap - it's 1000 over the lifetime of your account on a site

How can you tell how much you got for edits?

I have a feeling I will never reach that 1000 on this site ;-)

Gypsy Spellweaver

crawl through the rep tab on my profile and add them up

Ben I.

3:50 AM

Oof!

@Peter I think I'm a better CS teacher for having started in a different field.

Gypsy Spellweaver

most were done in a short span of time, so it wasn't too hard

Peter

100%

That has been key

Ben I.

Actually, I think I'm really a better teacher overall

Peter

My background in English has been a huge asset

Ben I.

If anyone knows anyone looking for a CS teaching job around NJ, my school has a sudden opening (from another department), and my principle is moving the position to CS.

Best job I ever had by far :)

Peter

3:52 AM

It's been a lot of fun for sure

Whole new challenge

Ben I.

I have done a fair amount of professional copyediting, but I have never, not even once, been able to assign an essay to my students and give feedback to them all the way I wanted. I just drown in the time it takes to grade essays carefully.

How in the world do you grade an essay?

I have been thinking about proposing a musc teacher SE, but I know I would get as addicted to that as I have to this, and I am afraid my wife will divorce me if I take on a second one :P

Peter

Haha

You spend A LOT of time reading

It was mentally draining

Rewarding and fun but with a wife and family...challenging

Ben I.

But... I guess when I see the essay equivalent of my sample answer #1 from my bimodal distrubition answer, I just despair and don't know where to begin.

Peter

The key for essays is rubrics

Also, formative feedback

Give comments on the process but very few for the final grade

That ends up being more of an exercise for the teacher than the student

Ben I.

Have you played around with peer editing?

Peter

3:57 AM

Oh for sure

Sounds great

Never works out too well in the end

More work than its worth

Ben I.

What about writing in the style of ___?

That seems like a way to absorb style by osmosis for kids who don't read for fun.

Peter

I will admit teaching writing was not my strength

It's tough

My focus was more on philosophical, logical, abstract thinking

Hence why CS makes a lot of sense to me now

Ben I.

I'll admit that, at least philosophically, I don't think it should fall on English teachers to teach writing. At least at the HS level

Peter

Yep - it's everyone's job

Time for a late dinner/BBQ

Have a good night!

Ben I.

I'm heading to bed soon as well. G'night folks!

Peter

4:02 AM

Night

Gypsy Spellweaver

Interesting, the supposed "bimodal" curve seems to have been noticed in many, if not most, fields recently.

expbook.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/…

But...

www.cs.toronto.edu/~sme/papers/2016/icer_2016_bimodal.pdf

Itamar Green

Mornin

Gypsy Spellweaver

Morning Sir.

Itamar Green

4:21 AM

Have I been knighted without my knowing (that was knowingly alliterative)

Henry WH Hack v2.0

:O

Sir. Itamar Green?

Gypsy Spellweaver

Thou art the Green Knight.

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight (Middle English: Sir Gawayn and þe Grene Knyȝt) is a late 14th-century Middle English chivalric romance. It is one of the best known Arthurian stories, with its plot combining two types of folklore motifs, the beheading game and the exchange of winnings. The Green Knight is interpreted by some as a representation of the Green Man of folklore and by others as an allusion to Christ. Written in stanzas of alliterative verse, each of which ends in a rhyming bob and wheel, it draws on Welsh, Irish, and English stories, as well as the French chivalric tradition. It is...

Henry WH Hack v2.0

I am the king. ;)

Gypsy Spellweaver

4:37 AM

Uneasy rests the head that wears a crown.

phrases.org.uk/meanings/396000.html

Henry WH Hack v2.0

I think Itamar Green is the Green Knight in disguise.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Thin disguise it be. Seest thou not the crest of yon knight?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

5:10 AM

Candid Camera Classic: Computer Foot Mouse

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Itamar Green

6:51 AM

@GypsySpellweaver woah.

Gypsy Spellweaver

What? sheepish grin

Itamar Green

When did you have time to learn old English??

Oh, and @Aurora0001, I think I found something about the SE system: why can't the mobile site be used to create new tags?

Gypsy Spellweaver

Like as not, 'twas in an earlier life. ;P

Itamar Green

Increasingly more difficult to understand XD

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:07 AM

Ignore me, I can be obtuse.

Itamar Green

Wow! Visits/day jumped by 100.

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Gypsy Spellweaver

Sometime today they should do the update to the SEDE database. Then we can look at our stats in a lot more depth.

Itamar Green

yay

Gypsy Spellweaver

Of course, it would help if someone new the ins and outs of SEDE.

Itamar Green

Knew?

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:20 AM

(k)new.

Itamar Green

(k)night

Gypsy Spellweaver

night errant

Itamar Green

Oh it isn't night here.

We're on sede!!

Gypsy Spellweaver

hence "errant"

Itamar Green

Oh. I'm confused

Time to test queries

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:34 AM

errant: wandering off in search of adventure. The night has wandered off way to the west, looking for dark deeds.

Itamar Green

Are you on literature.se? XD

Gypsy Spellweaver

nope.

Itamar Green

Do you have a thesaurus nearby?

Gypsy Spellweaver

nope

Itamar Green

Or is it Gypsy extends Thesaurus?

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:36 AM

I think I own one, but couldn't avow that to be so.

Itamar Green

I wish I could pull fancy words like that.

Gypsy Spellweaver

I think I've read entirely too much material in my off hours.

Itamar Green

Weaving spells and weaving words. Well, we would assume what literary things I am versed in. As all can always see, alliteration all day.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Maybe you should change your moniker to reflect that propensity. :)

Itamar Green

opening thesaurus

Maybe I should change my name to reflect alliteration.

That's the translation I came up with.

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:41 AM

Find a new name that is alliterative of your habit for alliteration.

Itamar Green

Yep...

Gypsy Spellweaver

Why'd you retract your network flair?

Itamar Green

Because my reputation on StackOverflow isn't relevant here.

I feel it's distracting, and maybe a bit of bragging. That's not what I want people to see, regardless of moderator nomination.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Yes and no. There is a connection through programming anyway, and as a mod candidate, your network rep shows that you've been active in SE in other areas prior to this site.

Itamar Green

I suppose what I didn't like was the "Just for the fun of it".

Thanks. You gave me an idea.

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:48 AM

After all, my top site is Super User, and most of my rep there isn't for knowledge, it's for work

4 hours ago, by Gypsy Spellweaver

Dang, 680/1562 of my rep on SU is just for edits! Maybe they ought to put a cap on that.

Itamar Green

If you look at my begining in StackOverflow, a lot of my rep (up till 2000) is edits.

Gypsy Spellweaver

That was amassed in a cleanup weekend where the site was transitioning to the full HTTPS standard and a lot of images needed to be converted. Other editors were also doing major work on tag edits. Most of the tags never got finished either. All the images did though :D

Itamar Green

Oh. Well, that's a good opportunity

Gypsy Spellweaver

On one day I maxed out rep half way through the day.

Without any rep for votes at all

Itamar Green

From December 7th 2016 and going back, you'll see ` edit +2` many many times in my reputation tab on StackOverflow

@GypsySpellweaver 100 edits?!

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:56 AM

I had 259 edits that day

Wow, the spreadsheet for the image work is still live.

Itamar Green

What spreadsheet?

Gypsy Spellweaver

Because there were multiple people doing edits to the images, they made a spreadsheet on Google listing all the posts that needed to be checked. As someone checked them, they'd update the spreadsheet with the status so others would know not to work on that one.

That sheet is still there, in all its finished glory.

Itamar Green

Teamwork at it's finest.

That's actually a brilliant idea

Gypsy Spellweaver

It worked. With tag edits you can see that the edit was done, sort of, just by pulling up the question.

With the image edits, you couldn't tell so easily

Itamar Green

But I thought Community user did all those edits. Great to know it was humans

Gypsy Spellweaver

8:08 AM

The ones we had to do were the ones that Community couldn't fix, for whatever reason.

Actually the "fix" was through a database query, that was "credited" to Community as the "editor"

About ⅛ of them were dead links. Sometimes a new image could be found to replace the missing one. Sometimes it was a user's screenshot of the "problem" that couldn't even be guessed at from context. :( Most of that group got nuked.

Itamar Green

Oh. Well, now we can do them here ;). (Yay we're on SEDE)

Gypsy Spellweaver

Do you have some experience with SEDE?

Itamar Green

Yes, I have some experience with SEDE. Mainly by SQL but not only

Gypsy Spellweaver

That's what I was wondering. In my quick glance it looked like MySQL knowledge would be helpful in using SEDE. I didn't dig very far, since we weren't there yet.

Itamar Green

I'll construct queries and save them for later use.

Aurora0001

8:54 AM

@ItamarGreen It can't? Don't you just type the tag into the box then press space? I don't really use the mobile site, but that'd be my guess

Itamar Green

@Aurora0001 nope. Tried to make solid-principals but the system didn't like that.

Aurora0001

Want me to add it for you?

Itamar Green

I can't think of queries that might be interesting at this point. Maybe the reputation graph of each user, as a function of their q/a ratio. But that isn't so interesting ..

@Aurora0001 I'll be home soon, but if you want to then ok. Otherwise I'll do it when I get home.

Aurora0001

It's done

Itamar Green

Ok. Thanks!

Gypsy Spellweaver

9:08 AM

@ItamarGreen You could have done it yourself by switching to the "full version" of the site on the mobile device.

TuringTux

Hi there!

I just wanted to hop in shortly due to this question:

Gypsy Spellweaver

WB

TuringTux

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Q: What is the future of React-JS?

React is an open-source JavaScript library from Facebook that makes it easy to create interactive UIs. What is the future of React-JS - i.e., how much development will be put into it in the future, and how important is it compared to other JS libraries? Should it be taught in a JS class?

web-development javascript

Gypsy Spellweaver

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Q: Why can't I create a new tag in Mobile?

When I was using the mobile version of an SE site I got prompted with the error: new tags cannot be created from the mobile site. The tag 'sometag' is new. Why is this so?

discussion tags mobile-web

@ItamarGreen ^^^

TuringTux

A few hours ago, it was edited by @heather and seems to be clearer to me now.

I think you could edit and even more moving it from "What is the future of React.JS?" to "Should I teach React.JS in a ... class?"

Should someone do this?

Gypsy Spellweaver

9:11 AM

Clearer in content, yes. However, I don't think Nostradamus is on the user list

TuringTux

Sorry I have to be complete un-humorous here: You say Nostradamus referring to prophecies of the future?

Gypsy Spellweaver

Even the answer to "should I" needs more background. Middle-school, university. Beginners, advanced. Switching from what other tools, or adding it to what tools? Etc.

Yes

TuringTux

Okay, so this is about what I thought: With some more details it could be (in my eyes) refactored to a question that asks whether it's a good idea to teach React to a certain group of students (determined by interest, skill). Can someone just reformulate the question and then add a comment asking for the background? Or shall we just comment? Or leave it alone and VTC?

Gypsy Spellweaver

I'd say to let it rest as is. It's on hold already, the user has been online since, but not in the past 11 hours. Give him time to read the comments, and the fix, and see if he will try to fix it.

Itamar Green

Without any word from the original asker, edits can very well be conflicting the author's intent.

Gypsy Spellweaver

9:17 AM

Especially with so little intent in the original.

I'm willing to but effort into fixing a question where the OP has put effort into asking it. If he can't be bothered to but in some effort, then why should I do it for him?

Itamar Green

@GypsySpellweaver exactly

TuringTux

Seems good to me. Chat is great, as it allows me to get the opinions of others before doing something I'm unsure whether it's good or not.

Thank you for helping.

:)

Gypsy Spellweaver

Thanks for being willing to help as well/

TuringTux

:)

Itamar Green

That's all that's needed. People willing to do it, and people willing to help them.

TuringTux

9:23 AM

This question seems to be interesting:

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Q: What is the best layout for a Middle School computer lab?

My school director has given me the opportunity to redesign the layout of our school's IT lab to better suit my classes. Currently the computers are in the "inverted U" layout listed here so that I can monitor students' monitors but not their faces. I find that this makes classroom management d...

classroom-management

Sadly, I don't have the slightest experience on this, but I think I'll enjoy reading through the answers

Gypsy Spellweaver

3-sided, not 4-sided. Don't need shields to keep students from seeing other monitors. On faces the presentation area, the other 2 have to turn 120° to see presentations. Walking around teacher always has ⅔ of monitors in view.

TuringTux

9:39 AM

@Gypsy Do you want to put this in an answer?

Gypsy Spellweaver

Not really, my drawing ability isn't that good.

Have at it if you wish.

Itamar Green

I'd do it but I promised myself to do 10 or more close vote review on SO each day. It helps just a bit, but there are still 9k close votes.

Gypsy Spellweaver

CV queue on SO is a lifetime job :/

Itamar Green

":(

TuringTux

Edit review queue makes me worry.

I don't have access to it, but I can see the disabled edit link and the posts on Meta, and this is enough for me to assume there are problems with it.

Gypsy Spellweaver

9:46 AM

@TuringTux You could also add that if floor space is at a premium, 5 sided works almost as well as 3 sided

The disabled on meta is because of low rep

TuringTux

I think I've badly formulated what I wanted to say: On the main SO site, edit queue is often full for some time now. On meta, people post about this issue and relate it to the new navbar

That's what I wanted to say

Gypsy Spellweaver

Oh. The new nav bar is a thing to adjust to. Folks are used to looking for notices in one place, now it's in another.

Teaching old dogs new tricks.

TBH, Since I don't have the rep to do reviews, I don't even know how to get there, except by typing the /review on the URL

TuringTux

When you have enough reputation a small icon will appear at the right in the navbar

Currently this is being discussed on So.meta

Gypsy Spellweaver

Then it should be there now, I can review documentation edits

TuringTux

Documentation is different - it doesn't make the icon appear for whatever reason.

Additionally, the item count is wrong: Sometimes there seems to be something in it, but when I open it, I'm just prompted there are now items matching my filters (I have no filters turned on).

Gypsy Spellweaver

9:58 AM

I think the SO toolbar looks better, not the same as is better however. I use enough different sites that I'm used to looking at the whole window anyway. Actually, I'm doing enough that I'm scanning the whole desktop anyway.

TuringTux

Wise words :) The main thing bugging me is that the stack exchange site selector has completely switched places.

Gypsy Spellweaver

I've had that happen before, on SO doc review, and on SU First/Late post reviews

The fact that it looks like the hamburger menu helps. Yea, I know it's the Stack icon, but resemblance helps.

TuringTux

Yes, this is good.

Gypsy Spellweaver

I run with 6 virtual desktops on two monitors. Only one tell-tale linked to SE, and the ping for chat. If I take too long to notice an SE inbox item, my phone will chirp at me.

TuringTux

10:23 AM

Cool :)

Gypsy Spellweaver

It's what I do

TuringTux

Okay, I gotta go now

See you o/

Gypsy Spellweaver

tt4n

Itamar Green

10:43 AM

It's rather interesting that our top tag is introductory-programming. I suppose it's not that surprising, as introducing students to this field (as well as any field) is on of fields with the greater variance in approaches and methods.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Also the hardest to figure out if the techniques are working.

Itamar Green

exactly.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Once they have the basics understood, they at least know enough to know how to ask a question for clarification.

Itamar Green

"because bigger kids monopolized the 2 Apple ][s at my high school"

is it possible this should be :"because bigger kids monopolized the 2 Apple IIs at my high school"?

Gypsy Spellweaver

You liked that?

Nope

Itamar Green

10:50 AM

I was wondering about ][...

Gypsy Spellweaver

Apple ][s is standard

Itamar Green

what? I have never heard of that.

Gypsy Spellweaver

It's an attempt to transliterate the logo

Itamar Green

in what way?

Gypsy Spellweaver

You have the Apple][, the Apple //e and the Apple IIgs

It's a 'cultural' thing :/

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Q: How did Apple's 'CYA' chip function to "Control Your Apple"?

Unlike the original Apple ][, the Apple IIGS was built from highly-integrated custom chips. Among these were the Mega II and the CYA (which, apparently stands for "Control Your Apple"). From what I have read, all the discrete logic that made up the original Apple ][, plus the various enhancement...

hardware apple apple-iigs

Itamar Green

10:56 AM

oh

Itamar Green

11:34 AM

who wrote this?

thesecretmaster

Good morning everyone

Gypsy Spellweaver

12:06 PM

@ItamarGreen Long ago, and in a galaxy far away, when the Force was strong....

Actually, I don't know. Why?

Itamar Green

because the names at that section are a funny coincidence if it's just copied from other sites.

Aurora0001

Probably one of the SE team; just a co-incidence, it seems

Gypsy Spellweaver

It's standard copy. Just luck we have a recognizable name to match it too.

Itamar Green

a very amusing one.

@GypsySpellweaver 2 names...

Gypsy Spellweaver

math.stackexchange.com/editing-help#comment-formatting

Odds are it was written by either Peter Smith, or the fellow sitting across from him in the office.

Yikes, time is sure flying. It's 12:12 already. I'm off for a quick nap.

Y'all have a grand time. :D

thesecretmaster

12:19 PM

I got back to fixing my rep curve query on SEDE. Turns out the rep on our site has a huge drop off at 200.

Itamar Green

well, those with assoc. bonus, and those who committed and didn't show much activity cause the high counts in the lower rep zone

Aurora0001

If you don't show up, you just won't have an account at all

thesecretmaster

I removed everyone with rep 101 and 1 from my query

Itamar Green

well, those with assoc. bonus, and those who committed and then weren't very active, cause the high counts in the lower rep zone

oh. Why didn't the sede query I saw at first show that? o.o

oh. nevermind. sorry, I was looking at a different query I made (well, tried to make, anyway)

thesecretmaster

Also, an interesting thing that I found when making a days since account creation/rep graph is that there isn't really a correlation between how long someone has been on the site and their rep.

Itamar Green

12:51 PM

hey @Aurora0001 how id the revision system managed? is it a stack?

Aurora0001

I think it's just an SQL table

Itamar Green

Damn. It could really fit in with my answer on that new question, if it were a stack,

heather

hello

Itamar Green

The stack question is becoming a HNQ. Let's hope it stays there.

heather

1:07 PM

i don't know if you guys have already done this, but have you advertised on any computer science forums or anything like that?

or possibly, is there a blog in the field you could request an advertisement on, or a shout-out from?

Itamar Green

I wonder when's the first bounty gonna pop. Is it a good idea to give a question popularity (if it already has a fair bit) by offering a bounty?

heather

@ItamarGreen well, with the stack question, it's a bit early - I'm pretty sure you can only give a bounty two days after a question's been posted, or something like that.

Itamar Green

@heather well, there's reddit. But I think you should check questions on the meta site. I recall 1 or 2 questions about that.

@heather I wasn't referring to the stack question... that's not eligible for bounty for 2 more days. But I was only wondering...

heather

1:44 PM

thoughts about creating a new tag "architecture" to refer to computer architecture?

Ben I.

3:20 PM

@heather It's a good idea

heather

@BenI. the tag has been created.

Is there anything in particular I can do to help this site? (I.e., do you need volunteers for anything, etc?)

Ben I.

I noticed :) But I still thought to reply. It's definitely a useful tag

So, as far as I can see, we have an extremely active core community, so virtually everything gets answered. Our main needs are questions (in site) and outreach (off site)

For 1, you started helping today :D

heather

I've been trying to go through the Area 51 definition stage questions =)

in terms of outreach, what areas specifically haven't you covered? I posted a community ad on a couple of sites already, and I can add the ad (heh) to more relevant sites, but I assume there are more things you want to do besides ads?

Ben I.

Oh, yeah - thank you for doing that! I joined and upvoted on physics, and I was already a member on the other site

We probably should target softwareengineering as well

heather

already added an ad there =)

Ben I.

3:26 PM

Oh - I didn't realize. I just upvoted

Did you create more than those 3?

heather

i did raspberry pi, TeX, crypto, mathematica, ask ubuntu, theoretical cs

i was debating putting one on chemistry and one on bio since i already did physics

Ben I.

You should always post the links here, because then we all go and upvote them so they dispay :)

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A: Community Promotion Ads - 2017

heather

they are listed on the advertising thread

thesecretmaster added them this morning (?)

Ben I.

The one within each site?

Oh, hey, yes they are!

I missed that.

How many upvotes are required for an ad to start showing?

heather

6

Ben I.

3:30 PM

That just made my day :)

heather

what did? the number?

Ben I.

No, your ad posts and @thesecretmaster's meta thread :)

heather

okay, i just added it to chemistry and biology =)

thesecretmaster

@heather If you just suggest an edit to the meta post, it'll get accepted

heather

@thesecretmaster, the edit button is grayed out, i can't click on it.

Ben I.

3:33 PM

Hey @thesecretmaster, how do you get to those stats pages? I was trying to update your post. (Since you're here, it's better that you do, but I'm still curious)

TuringTux

Hey guys o/

heather

hello @TuringTux

oh, can't believe I missed Unix & Linux, let me add an ad there...

thesecretmaster

@BenI. it's linked at the bottom of the ad question

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Greetings @TuringTux (aka Aurora0001 Brother. ;D)

TuringTux

;D

The Mathematics ad is active now

Henry WH Hack v2.0

3:36 PM

Oh nice

TuringTux

Do you want to edit that in, @thesecretmaster?

thesecretmaster

I edit every few days to let new questions be at the top

TuringTux

Oh, okay.

I was just collecting current changes, but this means they're not needed now..

heather

just a quick note, the one labelled "math" probably should be called "mathematica" to avoid confusion with "mathematics"

Ben I.

I need more sleep :D

heather

3:41 PM

To any fathers in the room: Happy Father's Day! =)

in terms of off-of-SE advertising @BenI. what exactly needs to be done?

Ben I.

We're just looking for communities. I sent messages to the CSTA chapter I am a member of, and made a post on reddit's /r/cseducation

Peter made a twitter account here twitter.com/cs_educators

TuringTux

One question on those Community Ads: As they need to be upvoted on the sites where we want them to show, I could use my association bonus, register me and upvote it on each site we've proposed one. However, this feels a bit like association bonus abuse to me, as I don't know anything about the sites (and also not whether this could be interesting for the users there). What do you think?

Ben I.

I tried to post on /r/compsci, but it was blocked as spam. The mods there (predictably) didn't respond to my message

heather

i think you can upvote on meta with or without the association bonus @TuringTux, as long as you've joined the site.

Ben I.

And Ellen posted to a series of professional groups that she was a part of, which brought us a big bump of users during private beta

heather

3:45 PM

@BenI., hmm. Are there any blogs whose owners you could ask to carry an ad, or give the site a shout-out?

Ben I.

thesecretmaster (and now, with you) has been organizing community ads

TuringTux

Really? Oh, I didn't know this (and now it's too late to test ;)). So, however, even without association bonus the question remains for me: Is it ethical to register on a site just to upvote one ad?

Ben I.

So far, that's what promotion/outreach has been done

Oh, and Mike Zamansky has linked to us a few times now. I think he's tentatively excited about this site

(He has a pretty popular blog with cs educators)

heather

i was looking at the Area51 stats, and it seems that all answer statistics are good, but amount of visits/users/questions (all connected, of course) are poor - how could we move up cs edu in google search results, to try to increase site visits?

also, side note - is anyone here on information security or emacs?

Ben I.

IIRC, Google has a list of cs education resources somewhere - I meant to email them to mention that we now exist

TuringTux

3:47 PM

I'm a passive user of Sec.SE...

heather

@TuringTux, could you post an ad there?

(i can join if you don't want to, i just thought i'd see if anyone was already on that site)

Ben I.

@TuringTux I don't think it's unethical. Isn't this exactly what the community ads program is for? To advertise other SE communities?

TuringTux