oh @Zionmyceliaadamancy this is actually essentially what i started with to get my original 8-byter

@tybocopperkettle To put it in less Vyxal-specific terms: $ƊƲ¥ɗʋ all act as parenthesis would in most languages, grouping commands together to be run together for some reason. The difference is that each one groups a fixed number of commands, and tells the interpreter whether that group is monadic or dyadic

¤ is the weird one: it groups a bunch of atoms into a nilad, but the number of atoms grouped depends on the chain, as it groups links so long as they form a leading constant chain (or LCC), which is a specific chain structure that is defined in an annoyingly complicated way

@Zionmyceliaadamancy Woah...

"Depends on the chain"?

For example, 2 ; 3H²RSḤ¤ yields [2, 6]. The 3H²RSḤ is an LCC, as it begins with a nilad, followed by a bunch of monads. So ¤ groups that together, runs it as a nilad, then uses that as the right argument to ;

Note that it doesn't include the ; in the LCC, as ;3H²RSḤ isn't a leading constant chain (it doesn't begin with a constant), so ¤ stops at the 3

Lol I don't even know what half of the atoms used in your examples do (I'll learn them now tho), I pretty much only know how Jelly works theoretically

Nvm I remember them

Wait why does [1, [1, 2]] summed equal [2, 2]?

It doesn't?

@tybocopperkettle You may be summing [[1], [1, 2]], which should give [2, 2]

Ohhh that would be it

2,3H²R displays [1, [1, 2]] so I got confused

yeah the handling of singleton lists in output can leave things to be desired

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