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8:29 PM
So, there's a simulacrum spell, which creates a copy of you that is slightly weaker and can't regain any spells
Downside of that spell is it takes 12 hours and costs 1500 gold
There is also a wish spell... which makes it so you can cast a 8th lvl or lower spell (which simulacrum is) and cast it without any of the requirements (including gold and time)
So, make sure you can do 2 wish spells, cast the simulacrum spell on you via wish. Instant clone!
Then, make the clone use wish to cast simulacrum on you
Now you have 2 clones, then 3, then 4, then 5, etc
I FORESEE SEE NO PROBLEMS WITH THIS
 
user15026
hahahahhahahahaha oh my goodness
 
user15026
next time we find ourselves outnumbered? :P
 
Well we'd have to wait till lvl 19 =p
 
user15026
Awww that's a long way away
 
Also wish can be used to make a lot of money (and other things)... but it severely weakens for days you and gives a 1/3 chance of never being able to cast wish again
But do you really care if the simulacrum can't cast wish again? Just toss it off a cliff
 
user15026
8:34 PM
I figured there had to be a downside somewhere
 
@KevinvanderVelden You might kill one of your wish uses though.
 
@Ash Replicating an 8th lvl spell doesn't have any downsides
@Arperum it's just a spell slot at lvl 19, take a long rest (or a short rest once per day!)
 
@KevinvanderVelden What with the "never be able to cast wish again chance"?
 
@Arperum doing anything other then replicating a spell does that
 
Aha.
 
8:36 PM
> The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. After enduring that stress, each time you Cast a Spell until you finish a Long Rest, you take 1d10 necrotic damage per level of that spell. This damage can't be reduced or prevented in any way. In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it isn't 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. ... Finally, there is a 33 percent chance that you are unable to cast wish ever again if you suffer this stress.
 
So for duplicating a spell, you can go completely crazy.
 
Yuuup
Also note, it's duplicating a spells effects
That is, a spell, no limits. Doesn't have to be one you know, doesn't have to be one that your class can cast
Hmm I just checked the spell slots table, you only get 1 9th lvl slot regardless of level
So, have another spellcaster capable of casting wish? =p
 
9:01 PM
So be with two lvl 19 mages and go create simulacra all day long...
 
Or a sorceress and a wizard CC @Avery
 
You are always looking for ways to break any game you play aren't you?
 
hmmm
 
@Arperum it's not my fault I'm good at it!
Also this was more a "I'm bored and tired but I don't want to go to bed at 9pm, I'm gonna open a random bookmark, oh hey it's the spell list for 5e"
 

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