Spring Cleaning

1:45 AM

CLEANUP ACTION → 1 message moved to Trash -- predicting melting points of substances based on their molecular/ atomic structure -- Closed as HW by orthocresol

pentavalentcarbon

2:12 AM

No, I added it then got distracted, I will try and figure out times tomorrow

hBy2Py

2:29 AM

Event probably isn't going to happen for at least a few days, so... no rush.

hBy2Py

2:56 AM

CLEANUP ACTION → 1 message moved to Trash -- Does this 'Belousov-Zhabotinsky Reaction' kit contain the correct reagents? -- Edited, answered, and retagged

CLEANUP ACTION → 1 message moved to Trash -- Combustion reaction of a chip -- Simple detag of [homework]

Martin - マーチン

6:36 AM

@hBy2Py You know, we could have just used a scheduling service like doodle.com

May I ask what we are doing during the event?

The same as we are doing now?

M.A.R.

8:14 AM

@Martin-マーチン I was thinking it was gonna be more like TRE I

The transcripts for TRE I are available in its meta post

Martin - マーチン

hmmm---kayyyyy

Martin - マーチン

8:34 AM

in The Periodic Table, 20 hours ago, by orthocresol

That's something like what I proposed previously: that effort should not be a criterion.

I like that thought.

But that would only work if our userbase would vote more - especially down-voting.

hBy2Py

10:56 AM

@Martin-マーチン That would have required me to know about the existence of things like that.

Noted for future use.

@Martin-マーチン The thinking is that this is just focused on reaction, with the goal of getting it scrubbed from the site

Martin - マーチン

well, there certainly also is a downside to me being in a different time zone...

if i was awake during the discussion, i'd made that suggestion ;)

hBy2Py

(at least, that's my understanding)

Martin - マーチン

@hBy2Py cool!

hBy2Py

<nod>, downside of us bustling around and not waiting for anyone... 0|-D

I suppose we'll need a catchy name

Martin - マーチン

Well, I've contacted the team about the blacklisting, but so far I did not get a reply, so we go ahead with manual labour and implement the blacklist later.

hBy2Py

10:59 AM

"The Great Inhibition"?

"The Spanish Inhibition"?

@Martin-マーチン With the chat feed and (hopefully an ok by you?) system for bookkeeping the actions taken, it's not too onerous

We can keep it up until they get to it

Martin - マーチン

sure, just do it like the TRE I with a scheduled chat event...

there is no need to document every step of the way

just the ones that are controversial or need deleting and close hammering and stuff like that

we shouldn't overdo it. If we are not removing content, then every post has its own history

hBy2Py

This aspect of the effort is something your input on will be crucial.

Martin - マーチン

that should suffice in general

hBy2Py

Have you looked at the GH Project?

Martin - マーチン

nope, no time right now

hBy2Py

11:03 AM

I figure this chat would be the communications hub

There are big lists of all the tags used on questions that [reaction] is on also

Martin - マーチン

i'm working hard on finishing my friday update, but i get distracted too often and it's alread eight O.o

hBy2Py

I figure we'd coordinate people going through those co-tags -- natural way of breaking down the work

Martin - マーチン

well, the chat event does not have to be a one time deal, we can run this every week

hBy2Py

The overall progress would thus be tracked by that conversation, and by edits to the lists to strike out completed items

Martin - マーチン

that'll work

hBy2Py

11:05 AM

@Martin-マーチン <nod>, I was thinking that too

And then, as you say, anything other than run-of-the-mill retags & edits would be discussed and documented here.

Martin - マーチン

you can look at the transcripts of tre 1, and when it is like that, that is absolutely fine

hBy2Py

You said yesterday(?) that you were working on writing something up -- is that the "friday update" you just mentioned?

Ok, I'll look back at those. Can I search for the room/event name? Is it linked from the meta post or something?

Martin - マーチン

11:17 AM

nope. i have not found the time to get any se stuff done... it's RL business

@hBy2Py everything and more: chemistry.meta.stackexchange.com/q/2940/4945

hBy2Py

Ah, nice, yeah, this'll be a great template

Martin - マーチン

i hope i can find some time to at least finish the announcement I have planned

but it's getting late and I am tired...

and i have no time during the weekend

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hBy2Py

Post it somewhere (sandbox? G Doc?), maybe some of us could help somehow?

Martin - マーチン

11:33 AM

Well, I'll put in on meta to just have it out there (if i find the time), then y'all can fiddle around with it :D

add links and other stuff

hBy2Py

<nod>, we've got a solid, if somewhat small, crew of interested people so far.

Once we've got it finalized, I figure you or someone will 'feature' it on Meta?

Martin - マーチン

i'll do that in one go ;)

i guess it won't take long until you guyses find my mistakes and correct them accordingly

hBy2Py

The edittacking will be vigorous, I suspect.

Martin - マーチン

\(*v*)/

well, the first TRE wasn't perfect at the first go...

i have to admit this just went along without me making any deeper planning...

sometimes it's just better to do than to plan ahead. we'll never be able to anticipate everything, so just nike it

$\checkmark$

hBy2Py

Hehe, yep

Now that it's starting to come together, I'm definitely feeling "auuggmmmm, have I thought of everything?"

But, exactly, just get people in motion at the target -- they're smart, we'll cope with whatever comes up.

Martin - マーチン

11:49 AM

@hBy2Py Who cares?! We'll make it up as we go along. We've been struggling with rough-and-ready solutions for so long, always patching things up, adding stuff, discussing something new. It appears to be impossible to break anything at the moment. We can't make it worse.

Martin - マーチン

12:08 PM

6

Q: What kind of subjects in chemistry are considered "too easy"?

Since we're in the Stack Exchange Beta, it's always stressed that easy questions should be avoided, in order to attract experts. I'm not entirely sure whether the questions I have fall into that category, though. These topics include: spdf notation Atomic Structure VSPER Diagrams VB Theory Pe...

^^ reuse this somehow?

hBy2Py

12:34 PM

@Martin-マーチン As part of which effort?

Doesn't seem relevant to reaction scrubbing

Martin - マーチン

cv policy?

orthocresol

1:00 PM

@Martin-マーチン If this is the case, we should probably close all simple stoichiometry questions.

Martin - マーチン

ok

orthocresol

Yeah, I don't mind that either...

Tbh.. they should probably just be downvoted..

Martin - マーチン

I think if we have a really good q&a on how to balance an equation, we can just dupehammer them

M.A.R.

Well, simpleness can be responded to with a downvote

but introducing it to closure will cause problems

orthocresol

Yes, and one on "How do I find the limiting reagent?", and one on "Calculating the number of moles of product formed from x grams of SM".

Martin - マーチン

1:04 PM

but I meant more or less the spirit of the meta post...

orthocresol

I really like the ability to edit the duplicate list to put multiple questions there.

Martin - マーチン

@orthocresol number of moles... I think there is a @Loong coming for you

orthocresol

uh oh...

I'm out.

Martin - マーチン

:D

orthocresol

looks around

hmm.. it's not possible to kick-mute a moderator..

Martin - マーチン

1:12 PM

It is

But!

It involves very shady things O.o

orthocresol

Oh... I think I might know what you mean..

Martin - マーチン

At least theoretical that should be possible. I'm not sure if it works here, since the parent site is ours, but it should work on foreign mods.

For example if there would be the flag police coming in here.

orthocresol

Well, we can easily lure them here.

Number of moles

Martin - マーチン

No. No. No. No. NO!

orthocresol

Thankfully, Loong doesn't seem to be around right now. :)

Martin - マーチン

1:18 PM

Hear me scream: ▶ 🔘──────── 00:59

orthocresol

not this again

M.A.R.

!!flip/Mart's humor

Martin - マーチン

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ

@M.A.R. no bot here ;)

M.A.R.

@Martin-マーチン I know, but it gets the message across

orthocresol

@M.A.R. chemistry.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2940/…

@Wytha no. We're gonna try to get more organized and begin episode 2. — M.A.R. Dec 3 '15 at 20:13

Martin - マーチン

1:22 PM

@M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

hBy2Py

@Martin-マーチン @ortho Yes, this would be a perfect use case for canonical

@orthocresol These too

I'm scheming about how to approach a canonical for pH/buffer calculation questions, too

Haven't come to solid conclusions yet

orthocresol

Well, I hope there are people who are willing to write such posts.

hBy2Py

@orthocresol I assume there's some sort of history here I'm unaware of?

orthocresol

@hBy2Py The correct term is amount of substance, I think.

hBy2Py

@hBy2Py That's what I was thinking about with this

orthocresol

1:32 PM

I see. Yeah, that would help entice people.

hBy2Py

@orthocresol Incentivizing people to write canonicals by going meta on the bounty system a bit

Meta post with a needs-canonical list

orthocresol

I am sure there are people around who want to do that. I am just not one of them, unfortunately. I would rather write canonicals on slightly more interesting topics.

Maybe over the summer.

hBy2Py

Maybe a needs-canonical to bookkeep them

M.A.R.

@hBy2Py Yeah, I had that meta post in mind for ages

hBy2Py

Probably canonical would be worth having, so as not to have to curate a meta list of canonicals

orthocresol

1:34 PM

Now, if they would bring over Documentation to the SE network...

hBy2Py

Huh, now that's a thought

orthocresol

Unfortunately its NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN because this place is so SO-centric

hBy2Py

<nod>

Changes that don't involve major coding effort might happen.

Major codebase changes? Not ever, unless we bribe Atwood with something really nice.

M.A.R.

Enjoy this

0

A: Boot Failure After Updating Bios Asus M5A97 EVO

Read this , No display through DVI/HDMI during CrashFree3 operation I am using the M4A89GTD Pro onboard DVI output on this motherboard. Everything works fine until yesterday. When I turned on my computer yesterday, there is no display on screen. The system gave 5 short beeps, then nothing is happ...

orthocresol

@orthocresol (bit of sarcasm there if anybody couldn't tell)

M.A.R.

1:38 PM

Then feel relieved that it's not on our site

hBy2Py

I don't know how mods on SO/SU stay sane

@orthocresol Amazingly, it is possible for some things to (potentially) change:

5

Q: Could we get different font colors for SEDE comments and strings?

In SEDE, using Chrome on Windows, comments and strings are both formatted in the same shade of green: (Snip is from this query) Now, I'm sure many out there will have bones to pick with my query syntax and formatting and whatnot, but all of that harassment aside: it seems to me that this woul...

feature-request data-explorer code-formatting

orthocresol

@hBy2Py There are many of them,

Martin - マーチン

@hBy2Py use [meta-tag:stuff] for hotlinking

hBy2Py

Baah, right

Well, no

I would envision these being main-site tags also

tentatively

I know main-site meta-tags are frowned upon

canonical would have a specific, defined search purpose, though

Martin - マーチン

well, we're in the process of burning two...

hBy2Py

1:48 PM

I won't be surprised if the tags are vigorously argued against, and won't be upset if they don't happen

Just feel it's worth discussing if these might be worth officially sanctioning

Maybe they'd be mod-only tags or something, if that's possible on the main site

Martin - マーチン

I don't think that is true. Can you objectively categorise something as canonical, or do you need to decide to include it into that list.

hBy2Py

But then there'd be a whole process of discussing what to or not to include

yeah

It's proxy for this kind of question comes along CONSTANTLY and we're tired of answering them

So, not really objective

Martin - マーチン

reference-request is the only meta-tag that is comparatively easy to apply

well, and erratum

but that's also one that could potentially be added to everything

and it doesn't make searching easier

hBy2Py

<nod>, and a meta canonicals list would be fairly slow-changing

ok. no tags

I shall never mention it again (probably)

M.A.R.

@hBy2Py They don't

Martin - マーチン

1:53 PM

we'll see...

it's only worth keeping a list when there are items on it

hBy2Py

heheh

Martin - マーチン

the resources thread is some community project that never was finished

M.A.R.

@orthocresol Well, considering the size of those sites and the size of, say, Chem, they're not many at all

@Martin-マーチン which

orthocresol

dammit, the blue book is so difficult to read

Martin - マーチン

@M.A.R. this chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/37303/…

orthocresol

1:55 PM

How does Loong do it?

Martin - マーチン

@orthocresol he ate it

orthocresol

@M.A.R. true, however there are also many more close voters, ...

@Martin-マーチン well I have been trying to add to it in topics that I read... but I am just an undergrad and just read generally, it needs input from more specialists, imo

M.A.R.

@orthocresol Not enough close voters, however. Which means the site is always flooded with crap, while ours isn't that much

hBy2Py

@M.A.R. Yeah, it's a rare day when the close vote queue is below 1k

M.A.R.

Even though they have developed awesome tools to deal with NAA, those few users that do care

Martin - マーチン

2:01 PM

@orthocresol w000t there is a new Jensen O.o

M.A.R.

NAA, plagiarism, bad tag wiki edits etc.

orthocresol

@Martin-マーチン there is... I bought the ebook.. summer reading

M.A.R.

@Martin-マーチン Wut

hBy2Py

@Martin-マーチン wowza!

Martin - マーチン

also you are right, but what can you do... I don't have time to answer the questions im interested in...

how much was the jensen?

orthocresol

2:02 PM

50 pounds? somewhere there, but I had a 15% discount from some previous complaint with Wiley

so 40ish

M.A.R.

Hey everyone . . . These chem mods are buying and selling humans O.O Somebody stop these

orthocresol

my college also subsidises books at the end of the year, which is nice, so it would likely end up costing me ~25 pounds

once I claim that money back

Martin - マーチン

cool...

orthocresol

That's 3.4k yen

Martin - マーチン

too cheap, must be a bad book

orthocresol

2:04 PM

damn

Martin - マーチン

a real book should cost north of 10k yen ;)

orthocresol

Helgaker should be somewhere around 20k

the hardcopy costs 481 pounds.. so..

Martin - マーチン

good book!

orthocresol

I posted it here coz i could not find the answer. Can u, MR.Klaus , tell me the reason why this is off-topic? Ammonium perchlorate composite sounds like physics ? It sounds like chemistry to me. And if all the terms can be looked up in a 30 sec cursory search, why couldnt u please do that for me? I would be very obliged to get the answer. I have been breaking my head on this thing for days. Its easy to say "I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because all terms can be looked up in a 30 seconds cursory search.". If u can answer it, answer it. Or dont. I dont need ur comments. — sooraj 3 hours ago

hm

Martin - マーチン

-5

Q: Types of Rocket Propellants

Does ALICE, Rocket candy, APCP,come under the category of liquid Propellants? If not , under what category do they come?(like solid,gas etc).

fuel

jinx!

orthocresol

2:08 PM

jinxd

Martin - マーチン

i kicked that comment in the butt

orthocresol

haha I saw

Martin - マーチン

we need to deal with this stuff, too

orthocresol

google-able stuff?

hBy2Py

Will he get a notification of why the comment was asploded?

Martin - マーチン

2:09 PM

i don't think so

orthocresol

@hBy2Py No, you're never notified of comments that were deleted.

hBy2Py

Didn't think so

Martin - マーチン

yeah well, i killed that as rude

hBy2Py

It's tricky -- sometimes an I found this in ten seconds question isn't completely worthless

1

A: Does this 'Belousov-Zhabotinsky Reaction' kit contain the correct reagents?

No, it doesn't, at least not strictly. According to Wikipedia (emphasis added): One of the most common variations on this reaction uses malonic acid $(\ce{CH2(CO2H)2})$ as the acid and potassium bromate $(\ce{KBrO3})$ as the source of bromine. The overall equation is: $$ \ce{3CH2(CO2H)2...

(IMO, anyways)

From an answer to @M.A.R.'s recent Meta.SE post

> Plenty of users who can describe the issue or just take a screenshot and say "what is this" - people who know what they want help with and usually tried to find it but just have no clue what to type into the box or look for in order to find that help.

orthocresol

oh well, that sort of thing will always be left for community to decide

hBy2Py

2:11 PM

22

A: How to reduce guidance being so dispersed in Meta?

The fact that all of this information is so dispersed across so many different areas is amplified by the fact that we sometimes use some pretty odd names for our features that seem completely obvious to an experienced user, but someone brand new has absolutely no idea. As someone who works in the...

orthocresol

we closehammer quite a number of questions, but that's because we get quite a number of homework dumps..

hBy2Py

Right, but we don't have a close reason that captures This is so easily searchable though, do we?

orthocresol

nope

that is why Klaus had to use a custom comment

hBy2Py

And I don't think it would fit neatly into your new chart for the HW-close-reason-replacement

orthocresol

I mean, I don't think custom comments are the worst thing.

Depends on their incidence, imo.

@hBy2Py animuson deigned to reply to that post?

hBy2Py

2:14 PM

@orthocresol At length!

And here @M.A.R. was worried about the Q being downvoted to oblivion

M.A.R.

@hBy2Py I have been like that about all my top-voted posts

Martin - マーチン

I think Klaus decided to do the right thing. He could have written that first comment as an answer and it would probably have gotten a thousand upvotes...

hBy2Py

<nod>

I guess Q's like this do fit under the generic off-topic close reason

They're not questions about chemistry

They're questions about how do I find this piece of data, that happens to be (perhaps loosely) related to chemistry

orthocresol

2:40 PM

@hBy2Py Half the time, these get closed as HW anyway.

I feel like HW is "misused" on stuff that, while admittedly crappy, is not homework.

There might be a case for application of "lacks sufficient description"

i.e. why aren't you sure whether it's a solid?

For example, the Wikipedia article writes

> ALICE is a rocket propellant which consists of nano-aluminium powder and water. After mixing, the material is frozen to keep it stable.

I mean, it's fairly obvious to anybody with chemical knowledge, but Wikipedia doesn't explicitly state which state of matter it is. If this person had quoted this line and said that they're not sure whether it's liquid or solid... I think the response would have been different.

hBy2Py

2:58 PM

@orthocresol <nod>, honest confusion instead of apparent laziness.

@orthocresol Agreed - it's part of the formless blobbiness of the current HW close reason

Taken broadly, they do fit in the red region of your figure, I think.

orthocresol

Oh well, I think it will be something that is left to close voters.

hBy2Py

But that close reason is (as written currently, anyways) focused on questions asking about specific exercises

orthocresol

It's still ambiguous, technically.

hBy2Py

It's just awkward that none of the prefab close reasons covers it very well

orthocresol

most sites have a custom close reason for RTFM

hBy2Py

3:00 PM

"Is it really okay for me to close this? It doesn't exactly fall under any of these things..."

orthocresol

something like "This is easily found in the documentation"

M.A.R.

Documentation being Wikipedia, Chem.Libretexts and probably a couple of other commonly linked to sources

orthocresol

I mean, we could easily lump it into the close reason.

hBy2Py

Just a little add-in, sort of like:

> NOTE: Also included in Case (#) are questions asking for information that is readily found by a web search with the keywords used in the question

(needs editing)

orthocresol

Mmhmm.

hBy2Py

3:08 PM

> *questions not (necessarily) related to a specific exercise ...

orthocresol

I don't necessarily want to restrict it, because then we are back at arguing what a homework question is.

Just with a different name.

hBy2Py

@orthocresol Restrict which "it"?

Restrict it to exercises?

orthocresol

The type of question it applies to

hBy2Py

The whole new close reason? or this 'easily searchable' thing in particular?

orthocresol

Whole close reason

I'll give an example.

hBy2Py

3:13 PM

I think I follow

orthocresol

Let's say somebody comes along and asks:

hBy2Py

There will be a lot of questions that the policy doesn't exactly apply to

Martin - マーチン

please review and edit as necessary:

0

Q: Introducing: Spring Cleaning

First of all I would like to apologise to all our users on the southern hemisphere for giving it this name. I know you are heading towards autumn and similar to winter bash you are a bit left out. Sorry. (You could propose a different name though.) Recently there has been some movement on meta...

discussion tags chat-event site-cleanup

orthocresol

I feel like it's subjective anyway.

hBy2Py

But there are definitely questions that fall into one of the three cases that aren't tied to a specific exercise

hm

orthocresol

3:14 PM

Yes. I think that it is useful to be able to cover those. For example, practicals in school.

hBy2Py

I was originally thinking that as long as it wasn't a specific exercise, that we'd be more lenient about questions where, e.g., someone doesn't really know where to start thinking about a thing

But I guess if we leave aspects of it vague, then the community can decide whether a question falls into one of the three Bad Zones™ or not.

orthocresol

I hope the community will not be too harsh on such questions.

hBy2Py

And it'll be less incongruous if the close reason is applied to non-exercise questions

orthocresol

@Martin-マーチン I did not know about post notices on meta...

hBy2Py

@Martin-マーチン You make a really good point. This name is very northern hemispherionormative

Martin - マーチン

3:16 PM

@orthocresol look at the main page ;)

it'll blow your mind ;)

orthocresol

Oh, Loong told me about post notices on main before. :)

@hBy2Py the thing is, we have been through this before: chemistry.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3300/…

Not homework, but seems like homework -> gets closed, even though it may not apply to a single specific exercise.

hBy2Py

@orthocresol Yep, this is why I was thinking we might restrict the scope of the new close reason to things that are explicitly exercises (HW, tests, etc.)

orthocresol

See, I don't want to say that that was abuse of the HW close reason.

Martin - マーチン

@orthocresol I meant the upcoming event part in the side bar :o

orthocresol

I think of it as, the community doesn't seem to like these questions either, so we can let them vote.

@Martin-マーチン ??!?!?!?!?!?!?! How?!

Martin - マーチン

3:20 PM

magic

orthocresol

OH

I remember seeing it.

hBy2Py

@orthocresol <nod>... the question of whether to specifically scope the close reason to exercises or not will have to have community feedback/informedness/discussion

Because I can see arguments for going either way

@Martin-マーチン It's a great start, Mart, thanks for putting it together

I'll flesh out the **hint**s

orthocresol

@hBy2Py Why doesn't that italicise?

hBy2Py

I was trying to italicize the asterisks by doing *\*hint\**

but that apparently breaks the Markdowning of the outer asterisks for makign it italics

I guess *hint*

* *

Not that they look any different italicized

Martin - マーチン

well I used **hints** in the post...

but we know that things work different in chat

orthocresol

3:25 PM

*hint**s

hBy2Py

<nod>

orthocresol

!!flip/hints

Martin - マーチン

I'll leave you to it, it's past 12 and I'm still at the office...

need some sleep...

M.A.R.

Yay

Finally a meta post

hBy2Py

@Martin-マーチン Yeah, take care of yourself -- I think we've got this pretty wellish at this point.

Martin - マーチン

3:28 PM

I am certain of that ;)

hBy2Py

Pride goeth before the fall, and all that.

orthocresol

@Martin-マーチン I accidentally destroyed a high-rep user, is there anything we can do about that?

:/

hBy2Py

uh

for real?

Martin - マーチン

@orthocresol that's possible?! O.o

M.A.R.

@orthocresol Oh shoot

orthocresol

3:29 PM

@Martin-マーチン Nah, april fools ;)

M.A.R.

Oh, at least it isn't me

Probably

hBy2Py

@orthocresol :-P

M.A.R.

OK, good prank at least

Martin - マーチン

@orthocresol good one ;)

M.A.R.

As an April fools joke, I wanna serially downvote y'all

It's really apt

orthocresol

3:31 PM

@M.A.R. Well, you will get a new experience you've never had before.

M.A.R.

It's no fair if you suspend me for more than a day

I only downvote you for April fools

hBy2Py

Edits done

hBy2Py

3:46 PM

Chat search of Spring Cleaning for questions posted by @Feeds

@ortho, are you able to edit old chat posts, from the transcript?

orthocresol

Yes.

hBy2Py

When you get a chance, could you go through the 25 or so search results that turn up in that chat search I just pinned, and clear them?

Most I think have been taken care of, and just need the "resolved by X" annotation

orthocresol

probably later tonight, but yeah sure

hBy2Py

I think we have enough eyes on the chat room and the feeds are coming slow enough that we're not likely to miss anything, but this will help

Thanks much

M.A.R.

You could probably accept your own answer now I think. — orthocresol ♦ 34 secs ago

What does that change? o.o

I mean, of course I could accept, but there's no rep gain or any other visible effect

Well, except a cosmetic "resolved"

Accepted anyway

Some people believe too much in the power of accept

I just met such a person on SU chat

orthocresol

4:32 PM

@M.A.R. Yes, just cosmetic.

hBy2Py

4:47 PM

@penta, are you able to (1) see the projects at the GitHub organization, and (2) make changes to the notecards there?

@Melanie, your GitHub invitation still shows as "pending" -- did you receive an email about it?

If not, you can go here to accept it and gain access.

pentavalentcarbon

5:43 PM

@hBy2Py yes and yes

hBy2Py

@pentavalentcarbon Good and good.

Annoyingly, I haven't figured out a way to make the project visible read-only to nonmembers of the org.

Melanie Shebel

7:05 PM

How do I use github. :S

I think I'm going to run for Mod the next time we have elections. I really enjoy this.

Melanie Shebel

7:33 PM

When do you wish for us to start editing?

orthocresol

@MelanieShebel hmph.

hmmm...

Just edit in your own time.

Can't help you much with github, I don't use it :P

I'm planning to write up an answer to martin's meta post on specifically what is going to be done

I personally don't think that all [reaction] questions need to be cleaned up. I am going to work on the assumption that community voting has distinguished the crappy from the good

Therefore we probably don't need to look at questions beyond a certain score.

Those questions just need to have the [reaction] tag removed, which will automatically happen when the SE community managers ("CMs") step in and do their magic.

anyway, I should not say all this now, since I am planning to type it again later.. haha

@hBy2Py ok, has been cleared. seems SE chat search updates quite regularly, as many of those messages already do not show up in the search results

in fact the search results are already empty now (<5 min after I finished clearing them)

hBy2Py

8:49 PM

@orthocresol They should all probably be looked at, but yeah, most will probably just need a retag (@Mel)

@MelanieShebel The spread of stuff laying out what needs to be done is at this Project in the GitHub org

I would start with the [reaction] co-tags with 1 question items

orthocresol

All 877 of them?

I mean, that would be ideal, of course, but are we capable of that?

hBy2Py

I thought that's what the reaction event was going to involve

If we can get four people working at once

that's ~220 questions per person

Most will just be retags

If it takes more than an hour and a half I'd be really surprised.

mmmm

Unless we want to be rigorous about documenting everything

or, well, no my math is off

orthocresol

Well, no harm setting our sights high, I guess.

:)

hBy2Py

220/90 = 2.5 questions per minute

That's probably over-ambitious

I feel like we have a lot of enthusiasm in our core Spring Cleaning cadre right now, though -- I don't think it would take more than two sessions

@hBy2Py Declare in chat here which chunk of questions you're taking on (@Mel)

The focus for this is quick processing

heather

hello

i'll go over to that github list and see what i can do =)

hBy2Py

8:59 PM

I made a column in the project for dumping the IDs of questions that need more work than a simple retag

Once you're done, edit the relevant card in the Project to strike out whatever you've completed.

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