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Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
2:05 AM
I guess I am super late because I was busy in the evening with some work :(
anyway, samjoe has said pretty much everything that I would have too
physics was ridiculously easy
chemistry had nice questions on organic (lots of steps and reagents!)
and maths was also okay enough
RIP single integer. Welcome subjective questions.
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which were obviously lengthy also because you had to calculate till two decimal places
 
 
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starunique2016
starunique2016
5:11 AM
reagents all from ncert?
yeah rip single digit welcome subjective questions....iit comes back again/
 
 
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Abcd
Abcd
7:12 AM
Many students made that mistake. 4 instead of 4.00
 
Sid
Sid
Not surprising at all..
 
Abcd
Abcd
hmm, I think even I'd have made that mistake :P
But no.. FIITJEE Aits pattern, so I wouldn't have made that mistake
@Sid Its sad to see them lose marks because of this :/
 
Sid
Sid
Well, if someone doesn't read the instructions carefully, that's what happens
 
Abcd
Abcd
Who cares about the instructions in any paper.- boards, school exams, jee etc...
Just no one.
Everyone expects the same old thing to be written there.
 
Sid
Sid
Exactly! THat's why people make errors.
The first error being not reading the instructions
 
Akash. B
Akash. B
7:29 AM
@JohnRennie sir are you there?
 
Abcd
Abcd
7:53 AM
0
Q: How was these 8 equations derived?

Akash. B$$(a+b)^2=a^2+b^2+2ab$$ I have been studying this since my fifth grade ,I have also used this equations for many times in my problem . My question is on what basis this equation was derived?not only this equation there 8 equations for solving complicated problems. So guys can you tell me how was ...

soft-question problem-solving
@Akash.B You know multiplication(you said you are in 10th grade iirc), dont you? Please use distributive property of multiplication and try to derive it yourself.
And which 7 other equations are you talking about?
hmm, you have edited now to add the other 7..
 
Akash. B
Akash. B
@Abcd yes
 
Sid
Sid
Hmm, just so you are clear, all these equations are only true for Real Numbers
 
Akash. B
Akash. B
@Sid what about geometry?
 
Sid
Sid
...what?
 
Akash. B
Akash. B
@Sid how was the area of cone was derived?
 
Sid
Sid
8:02 AM
As in? You just find the Area from integrating.
If you can't bother to remember their formulae
 
Akash. B
Akash. B
@Sid I want to make it more easy to study
 
Sid
Sid
does this not help?
 
 
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samjoe
samjoe
9:43 AM
I also wrote integers without decimal part in first paper, then after the paper I was discussing with friends, then I got to know many had done this. I had read the instructions but when the answer came exact integer then i didn't remember to put .00 I hope they'll give marks :|
@GaurangTandon Initially many news sources said that something similar to subjective questions is possible this year, I thought they were rumours
 
samjoe
samjoe
10:02 AM
@Vikas @Koolman how was it? and now how are you going to spend time before the results
Anybody knows a good source to practice BITSAT questions
 
Abcd
Abcd
10:23 AM
Good news for 2018 aspirants^
 
samjoe
samjoe
Good decision
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
i am crying
literally
I went into depression yesterday, was not able to sleep properly.
Thank god . @MadhuchhandaMandal good news !
@samjoe feeling good now :) I would have failed Bitsat too if I didnt read that news. thank you @Abcd
 
samjoe
samjoe
10:45 AM
@VikasRv Nice! i think they have taken a right decision. How are you preparing for bitsat
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
Nothing special. Should learn the basic org chem ( I have a bad memory ) :/ somehow managed with phy and math in adv but its important for bitsat
Will take a mock test in mypat today
what about you @samjoe
 
samjoe
samjoe
Hm I did download some previous bitsat tests but I dont think they are real. might practice 1-2 of those. Other than that I think I'll read ncert inorganic
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
Yeah I will also do the same. It felt so bad when I was not able to answer some basic P-block reactions :( I already studied them for boards but I have a very bad memory
 
Madhuchhanda Mandal
Madhuchhanda Mandal
11:05 AM
@VikasRv Feeling releived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Abcd Thanks a lot for the sweet news!!!
 
 
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Jasmine
Jasmine
1:01 PM
Can anyone help me with a technical pc problem?
 
samjoe
samjoe
You can put that here but it'd be better to put it on stackoverflow as well
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Ok. Actually I have all my notes, important books, and important apps in my laptop and the adaptor fell from quite high and it's not working . I need to fix it as I have nearly everything in my laptop. It's a Sony vaio so it's difficult to get. I found tricks that laptops can be charged using phone's is that true
It's very important as all my notes are in the laptop.
And I don't know how to put a question on stackoverflow
 
Sid
Sid
@Jasmine Join Stack Overflow. Then, ask a question
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
1:19 PM
@Sid ok trying.
 
Sid
Sid
@Jasmine Word of advice, try keeping your notes in Google docs or Google Sheets.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
What tag do I use?
 
Sid
Sid
Actually, no. I don't think that question fits for SO
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Yeah but now that I have them as pdfs I can't do anything about it.
@Sid where should I ask this?
 
Sid
Sid
I... don't know.
@Jasmine Laptops can be charged with phones only if your laptop supports USB charging.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
1:27 PM
@Sid what's usbcharging?
I badly need my notes!!
 
Anonymous
@Jasmine Try using another Sony one. They work sometimes, like I have two diff acer laptops, diff chargers work.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
From where do I get a Sony. Do you know Sony stopped selling parts.
 
Anonymous
I am sure it would be on Amazon? Did you check?
 
Anonymous
@Jasmine Ah, didn't know that
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Is there any temporary solution?
 
Sid
Sid
1:30 PM
@Jasmine If your laptop is charged by a USB port, then, you can try connecting the charging cable from your phone to your laptop
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
No, it has usb ports but it doesn't charge from there
 
Anonymous
@Sid Phone to laptop?
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
No I think I have to stick to ncert till the time I don't have notes. The only book I always have
 
Anonymous
@Jasmine No, it doesn't. It's actually different.
 
Anonymous
@Jasmine Question: How do you manage with soft copies? I always have everything in hard copy :P I just can't manage
 
Sid
Sid
1:34 PM
@IceInkberry Like, if you can remove the cable from the charger and then connect one end to phone and the other to laptop. (There's probably some nice technical term for this but my brain is refusing to think)
 
Anonymous
@Sid Hehe, that would be: Mini Phone battery Vs. Mega Laptop battery
 
Sid
Sid
@IceInkberry Try having soft-copies too, preferably somewhere on the internet. It helps in case you ever lose your notes.
 
Anonymous
I have seen vice versa happening
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
@IceInkberry and I like to have in soft copies as I don't make proper beautiful notes I just write anythinhmg anywhere but in soft copies are the notes of the one who made it properlym
 
Anonymous
I use my own notes of classes as well as textbook. So, there's nothing to lose.
 
Anonymous
1:38 PM
I can always retrive anything I want
 
Sid
Sid
(I am advising so because in my last 2 semesters, I lost the notes of the so-called most difficult subjects of that semester)
 
Anonymous
@Sid You had made them?
 
Sid
Sid
Yeah
And I lost it just a few days before semester exams
 
Anonymous
I am too lazy to make my own, but if I do, I'll always store them. Thanks for the advice :P
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
I am going to make proper notes from now onward but what about the ones I have los
 
Anonymous
1:40 PM
I survive on printed material
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Yeah it's like you must have both soft copy and hard copy.
 
Sid
Sid
@Jasmine You can open your laptop, right? Can you just send all those notes to a spare-email. Then, you haven't quite lost it, no?
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Approx 500 files to an email?
Are you joking?
 
Sid
Sid
...500 files?
Good luck. I can 't do anything now...
 
Anonymous
Google drive to rescue
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
1:43 PM
It will take like 2 to 3 hrs but my laptop would allow me 10 to 20 minutes.
 
Anonymous
Okay lol
 
Anonymous
Wait, I even wonder if your Google account storage would allow the capacity of your files.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Now I should get back and prepare good notes from class and ncert
 
Anonymous
Save all your frequent files to Google drive now and then order a charger from amazon
 
Anonymous
Amazon has next day delivery as well :D
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
1:45 PM
@IceInkberry actually the size of each is less
 
Anonymous
Also, don't try to fix your charger by online tutorials. I will say it is totally hectic, totally. Takes a lot of time. These DIY fixes.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
@IceInkberry yeah ok it's true. And also my hard copy notes are good but whatever now only ncert is the best
 
Anonymous
@Jasmine Coaching modules?
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
I only make flashcards
Notes sux
That's linke reading the same material again
 
Gaurang Tandon
Gaurang Tandon
2:23 PM
@Jasmine go to a computer shop and ask them if you can get access to the hard drive via a USB
on a PC the hard drives are detachable
dunno about laptops
 
samjoe
samjoe
@Blue @Sid what are prerequisites for vector calculus and multivar calculus? And is there a good source for learning these?
 
Sid
Sid
@samjoe Thomas Calculus
 
samjoe
samjoe
@Sid Ok but does that cover multivar?
Did you buy it or read it on pc
 
Sid
Sid
Yup. PDF can be downloaded from the internet
I could send you the book, if you have an email or something. Or, you can just download it.
 
samjoe
samjoe
Yeah I have it, but haven't read it :)
 
Sid
Sid
2:30 PM
Oh. Well, you can start whenever you want..
First year is a breeze anyway
 
Anonymous
2:51 PM
For anyone who can answer. How many hours does it approximately take to complete organic completely? Like, I am on hydrocarbons now and I want to see how much time will one to one teaching take.
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
3:02 PM
@IceInkberry entiiiire orgo
Or that chapter
 
Anonymous
Entireeee
 
Anonymous
From that chapter
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Man
It depends
Like they taught super sankalp in a month
For nsec or something
Now they're going in detail
 
Anonymous
O_O
 
Anonymous
Our special rankers batch is just for name's sake
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
3:05 PM
100-200 hrs
@IceInkberry ours has legit genyus kids
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj That's way too much. FIITJEE RSM states 110 hours
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Properly
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj Our legit genius kids are in Kohinoor
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Like for Ms Chouhan
 
Anonymous
With 355/360 in tests
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
3:07 PM
@IceInkberry that sounds so indian
@IceInkberry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Anonymous
And and others...meh only 250+ are in SRG
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
That's the sad lyf
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj Hmm okay, i was asking just for teaching
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Ya I meant teaching only
Ms Chouhan has out of JEE stuff
 
Anonymous
We are so obsessed with staying back in portion that our kids have to look for alternate ways for learning. ~ Our centre
 
Anonymous
3:09 PM
In Kohinoor organic was started in like last September
 
Anonymous
And teachers compare them to us. Bwahaha.
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj Okay
 
Anonymous
I am planning on taking one to one classes online.
 
Anonymous
That'll take lil less time I suppose
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
@IceInkberry online
Nice
Where
 
Anonymous
3:12 PM
Vedantu.
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
Goto youtube
 
Anonymous
After my brother got first prize in ISL we know the CEO. So it's like I'll get good teachers. Thanks to my brother :P
 
Anonymous
And it seems good. Because Vedantu had founded lakshya.
 
Anonymous
@VikasRv Actually, rather than learning. I need mentoring.
 
Anonymous
Proper guidance.
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
3:13 PM
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Anonymous
Noooooooo
 
Anonymous
God
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
Move that msg to trash ;-;
 
Anonymous
Okay. Fine. Back to topic. Organic chem is very interesting. Physics too. And maths is mega super nice
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
3:18 PM
Only calculus is good
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj Allen magazines are in Hindi.
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj I score in that, so. I find chem nice but I don't score in that so ~_~
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
@IceInkberry luuuuuilzz
@IceInkberry oho
 
starunique2016
starunique2016
heard that iit will be linient
 
Sid
Sid
@IceInkberry which message and why?
 
Anonymous
3:29 PM
@Sid Eh, nothing ^^" Kabaj misunderstands stuff.
 
Anonymous
3:49 PM
I think JEE advanced papers are now available online. We got them.
 
samjoe
samjoe
@Ice where? I cant find them on the main site
How many he attempted?
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
All
 
Anonymous
One of your genius cousins?
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Yes I have a lot of them
Am the only stupid one
 
samjoe
samjoe
@Avnish I pray for your well being...
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
3:52 PM
Thanks man
 
Anonymous
@samjoe Ah, I tried searching them online. Our teachers sent us the PDFs.
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Family gonna kill me
 
Anonymous
I didn't read the sentence after genius cousins.
 
Anonymous
What did you say?
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Shhhhhhhh
 
samjoe
samjoe
3:53 PM
Shh his parents might be around
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Let's wait for the results before I start blabbing
Man my dad
 
Anonymous
But I want to listen. Lol.
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Iiy
Iit
Tauji
Brother
Grandad
It's just too intense
 
Anonymous
Grand grandad
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
I wanted to be a chef
 
samjoe
samjoe
3:54 PM
@Avnish you are in Xii right? phod dena agle saal.
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
Bas haddiya phudengi
Aits mains result gave me rank
 
Anonymous
Doosro ki na
 
Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
10k-20k
 
Sid
Sid
@AvnishKabaj Then, be a chef. Don't have this idea that your undergraduate studies decides what profession you will take
 
Anonymous
Why just why
 
Anonymous
3:56 PM
We have to solve advanced papers with soln and submit
 
Anonymous
Till Thursday
 
Anonymous
How will we poor kids do that
 
Anonymous
@Sid Right
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj Also, sometimes you just perform like shit and that happens. Average score is important.
 
Sid
Sid
It's there online. On the site.
 
Anonymous
4:06 PM
@Sid Okay. Didn't see. Didn't know.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
@GaurangTandon :yeah ok I will go.
 
Sid
Sid
Damn, that Physics Paper is ridiculous. Not an IIT-Paper at all.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Are advanced paper out?
 
Sid
Sid
yeah
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
Where ? Can't find
 
Sid
Sid
4:10 PM
Official site
 
Anonymous
Do you mean too easy?
 
Sid
Sid
Yup. If even me, who has zero practice for the last year, is able to know what to do in this paper, then, yeah, ridiculously easy.
 
Anonymous
I am so much trying to isolate myself from the paper so that I could solve it next year whole altogether 11+12 but I think that just can't happen. But since the paper is easy, I think looking might do no harm.
 
Anonymous
2016 was best in the last 4 years.
 
Abcd
Abcd
@AvnishKabaj they (jee paper) have given order of migratory aptitude: aryl> alkyl> hydrogen
@IceInkberry who had set that paper
@Sid will jee 2019 be delayed or preponed because of Elections
@Sid what is the expected date of jee 2019
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
4:19 PM
@Sid what is expected difficulty of JEE 2019
 
Sid
Sid
Um. Yeah. People, (a) Calm down. (b) I have stopped following much of JEE recently. So, I have no idea for any of those questions.
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
@Sid bro what&where are you studying now ?
 
Anonymous
@Abcd IIT Guhawati
 
Sid
Sid
@VikasRv Studying in NITRKL India. B-Tech Electrical Engineering.
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
Oh good.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
4:24 PM
@Abcd Are you appearing for cbse
i think cbse will be postponed
 
Anonymous
It shouldn't be preponed :(
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
and so as jee
 
Anonymous
And CBSE shouldn't be postponed :(
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
@IceInkberry are you in 12th
 
Anonymous
JEE should be postponed and boards should be preponed. Heehee
 
Anonymous
4:26 PM
@Jasmine Yes
 
Anonymous
Just entered 12th
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
main bhi also me
 
Anonymous
Hi-fi!
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
but I am finding it too much difficult
you are in from which coaching
 
Anonymous
Allen, Mumbai.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
4:29 PM
@IceInkberry lol most good coachings are done with 12th portions
 
Anonymous
@Jasmine What do you mean o_o
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
I was thinking of joining other institure and then i got to know that the portion of 12th is completed and we have just entered 12th
allen is too good
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
`No use of completing the portion early. Its much better if your institute is going slowly, giving you enough time to practice each topic as the topic is being taught.
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine whattttt
@IceInkberry who will set it next year
@Jasmine no ISC
@Jasmine which other institute
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
@Abcd yeah many goo d institutes are almost done with portions
 
Abcd
Abcd
4:41 PM
@Jasmine which ones
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
@Abcd narayana
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine and?
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
many centres of narayana
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine and
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
brothers academy
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
4:42 PM
@Jasmine please, ask any Narayana students about this
They will just say that they completed the portion just for the sake of it
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
yeah it's true I asked someone from narayana delhi
its definitely not fully but almost
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine competition is increasing like anything
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
All the ranks they get are only because of the hardwork of the students
 
Abcd
Abcd
I feel really burdened right now
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
my friend said that in maths only probability binomial permutations and easily coverable chapters left
@Abcd think of me who has yet not started integrations properly
 
Abcd
Abcd
4:45 PM
@Jasmine Huh? We are still on limits.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
don't worry tortoise won :)
 
Vikas Rv
Vikas Rv
@Jasmine EXACTLY
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
@Abcd we too in limits
You won't believe the teacher gave us few sheets and wrote few formulae without a single proof and then went
And limits over I had to complete it through net
the biggest problem of fiitje e is that teachers leave in mid
And in my case both chem and maths teacher left together
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine which batch are you in
How many classes and of how many hours do you have per week
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
crp
 
Abcd
Abcd
4:51 PM
Me too crp
@Jasmine which batch but?
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
8 hrs a week
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine wut only? We have 20 hours per week.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
What?????????
Oh sorry we have 16hrs a week
 
Abcd
Abcd
3 mins ago, by Abcd
@Jasmine which batch are you in
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
batch in 2nd batch not in a2 earlier I was in cry top batch but
here cth was top batch
 
Abcd
Abcd
4:54 PM
@Jasmine what is "cry top batch"
@Jasmine what is "cth"
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
not cry but cth
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine I think top batch is called "CM" for CRP students
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
like cmp just cth
we had cth can't do anything about it
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine so you are in A02
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
yup
My rank dipped from10 to 30
only cause of single digit score in physics
but at my centre a1 and a2 both are taken by hod
 
Abcd
Abcd
4:58 PM
Hmm even we are taught by HODs
@Jasmine So how can the HOD be so negligent that he just wrote the formulas and went
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
and you won't believe the gods teach the worst
hod
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine you can edit the message.
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
the teacher in a3 are much better
you don't know here hods mean just the experienced ones not good teachers
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine What are the timings of your fiitjee classes
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
3:30 to 7:45
your?
you are in cm
 
Abcd
Abcd
5:01 PM
4:00 to 8:15 (+1 hour travel time daily)
@Jasmine yeah
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
so cm must have only 12 students
 
Abcd
Abcd
no CM batch has 25 students
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
you are from which centre
what 25
that's why you said 20hrs why
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine what do you mean
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
you have 4 classes a week
 
Abcd
Abcd
5:05 PM
@Jasmine No 5 days per week
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
oh
 
Abcd
Abcd
5*(2 for 1 subject+2 for another) = 20
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
which centre
@Abcd which centre
sometimes we too have extra classes like from 2 to 6 on sundays
Gotta a go now bye
 
Abcd
Abcd
@Jasmine Oh sorry, on Sundays we have from 10:00 to 6:45
 
Jasmine
Jasmine
you didnt say which centre
 
Abcd
Abcd
5:10 PM
that makes it 24 hours a week
@Jasmine Okay, good night.
 
 
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Avnish Kabaj
Avnish Kabaj
11:32 PM
@Abcd that's weird generally it's hydride first
 

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