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10:02 AM
I don't understand why people want to make Dogs and Cats vegan too.
@Zanna Yes. It is tasty.
Did you squeeze lemon juice on Poha?
 
of course :)
@NogShine The central tenet of the form of veganism conceptualised in the UK ~70 years ago by a small group of people, which I think has become quite widespread here, is not to use animals. Are you familiar with the philosophy of Kant?
The idea that animals should have something like what is called bodily autonomy in relation to humans in other theories is a sort-of connected belief... personally, I believe in bodily autonomy and so I wouldn't keep a pet at all (I'm also a clean freak - I think it's totally weird and gross to keep animals in the house walking all over the place)
but others think that keeping a pet isn't a violation of their philosophy of veganism, or they keep rescued animals as part of their family
but they still worry about the sources of meat
Meat comes from farmed animals... in the UK, many vegans actively campaign to shut down livestock farms, rescue mistreated farmed animals etc, as well as encouraging others to give up meat
by buying meat for cats and dogs to eat, we are supporting the violent/abusive/animal-using farming industry
but kept animals can't make a choice about what they eat - they accept food from us, or hunt for themselves... I think it would be violent to force anyone to follow a particular diet... I think coercion violates the principles of non-violence and bodily autonomy that I believe in. So the tension between the rights of the home-kept animal (pet) and the rights of the farmed animal (livestock) for me is a difficulty in vegan thought. The easiest conclusion is that it's wrong to keep pets.
 
10:45 AM
We got a question about vegan biscuits for dogs
 
yeah, I think that person is talking about feeding stray dogs
which imho is not a good idea
 
pets or stray dogs?
Yeah. stray puppies
 
but in general if you aren't keeping an animal but want to offer them some snack, there's a better argument for it being a vegan snack, because the animal doesn't have to accept it
they aren't depending on you
I don't think biscuits are very healthy for dogs haha
 
but he replied me in a comment that he wants to see my reaction when I see Cows and Turkies eat dogs.O.O
 
O.o
I better have a look
I think I read something about being eaten by animals you ate in the afterlife...
 
10:54 AM
Yeah. I have heard it too.
 
weird comment though haha
 
@Zanna People feed it to dogs.
 
here we have "dog biscuits" but they are not human biscuits. different ingredients
 
Yeah. We have them too.
 
but that person is feeding them marie biscuits
 
11:04 AM
Yeah.
There are such people also
 
that's what I mean is not healthy
lol
 
I don't like Marie biscuits
:D
What about you? Do you eat cookies or biscuits?
 
yes, I make them myself and eat them... I like them to be nutty and/or spicy and/or chocolatey
 

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