Oh, Iron Man in Japanese anime!

@DamkerngT. Haven't seen it, but I've heard it's pretty bad (at least compared to the Hollywood movies, though I guess that goes without saying).

Ahh

I found it on my suggested list when I listened to "Let It Go" (Japanese version) from Frozen.

Oh, I missed that one.

It was on my cable TV once. I wanted to watch it, but I was busy with something else. :)

It looks like a decent, well-made, and heart-touching anime.

@snailboat へえ、副詞よりも、連体詞のほうが、メインなのね・・・

ほんの少し～、ほんのちょっと～、ほんのちょっぴり～、ほんの短い～、ほんの小さな～、ほんのわずかな～、ほんのしばらく～、ほんの１ミリ～、ほんの一口、　とか。名詞に‌​もつくし、形容詞にもつくよね

副詞にもついてるのかな？

「しばらく」とか「ちょっぴり」とか、副詞みたいね

I've started playing a puzzle game on my phone called 脱出アリス. You play as Alice (the one from wonderland) and chase a rabbit down a hole. The game plays very much like another game called 100 floors. Except that it's in Japanese and the hints are in Japanese.

I found it rather satisfying to be able to use Japanese to play this game. I'm sharing this because the dialogues in there aren't too long and should be reasonably easy to follow, and should be fun for Japanese learners to have something to apply their knowledge on.

餔 - ゆうめし. It has its own kanji!

But the other めし words don't... at least not that my IME will tell me

@snailboat I don't know. Is it real? :)

@snailboat Slowly, but steadily. I can identify several potential listening problems. The most important one is perhaps the confusion of /r/-/d/. The next one is /sh/-/ch/-/j/ (also tangled with /tsu/ which sometimes sounds like /tju/ for me). Also, /n/-/t/-/d/, and sometimes tangled with /k/-/g/. (Isn't it strange that I heard /n/ as /g/ somteimes?!) Most of these can be solved easily from context clues, I think, but I wish I could hear those sounds clearer than I can.

I think when you start taking in the context with less effort, the sounds will just fall in place.. the brain just kinda works like that. :p I remember having similar issues. (still have to some degree, I don't use my hard earned japanese skills nearly as much as I should..)

I picked up "death note" last weekend.. it's kinda emo. It was that or Naruto though. Those were the ones I recognized.

And it's way harder than I thought it would be. I mean I can read it and get it, (with a dictionary by my side) but still there's bubbles on every other page where I don't really get why they're forming their sentences a certain way and it makes me think I'm missing something. :/

@gibbon Thanks for the cheering up! Japanese /r/ is quite tricky. (And I know that Japanese /r/ is supposed to sound like that, but it still got me sometimes. :)

Death Note as manga, anime, or a movie?

There's movies? Anyway, manga. I wanted to practice reading something.

(I've watched one of its movies once. Not in Japanese, of course. :)

At the very least, I've noticed this format (manga) is excellent for battling those occasional 10 minute build times at work. :P No more getting frustrated with comments on reddit/hacker news.

LOL

Manga are fun to read.

Yeah it's not so bad.. Isn't the anime version of all these series more popular though?

Most of these series are usually released as manga first and then anime, I think.

If it's popular, it will have a very good chance to become an anime.

Looking at the number of manga and anime released each year, it's so amazing!

I really have no idea how they do it!

Lots of people and long working hours? I reluctantly watched an ep of One Piece once, I think heavy drugs may play a part in the creative process.

Haha!

Imo, One Piece is unlike others. Very funky. :)

I have no idea what you just said, but you mean americans pronounce water as wah-der?

Sometimes I thought I heard /du/, and then thought, "wait a minute, Japanese has no /du/, it must be /ru/". :)

I think it can happen even when the /g/ doesn't sound really like [ŋ].

Looking at the series of my confusion patterns: /n/-/t/-/d/, and sometimes with /k/-/g/ too. I guess that the short onset is the cause of the problem.

Most of the times, it's relatively easy to tell which one is which. But some of them are really confusing.

I think you might find it interesting (to see the confusion patterns of a specific learner.) :)

Isn't it strange?!

Yes, it's from yesterday.

nods -- The onsets seem to be very different.

Thanks!

I can recognize some words in the song now. :)

The ones I can recognize are those I had looked them up. :)

The one that comes with my coursebook.

It's in Romaji-English and English-Romaji.

But I can read hiragana, so looking them up as romaji is not too difficult.

I have it, but it's too thick to look up the words quickly.

At this point, I try to understand the meaning only approximately.

For example, in 将来の夢, 将来 ~ future, 夢 ~ dream, but one translation on the web translates it as "never forget".

> 君と夏の終わり　将来の夢 --> I'll never forget being with you at the end of summer

Btw, my dictionary says 君 （きみ） is colloquial.

おやすみ！

~ <-- (waving)

@snailboat Hey you around?

@DamkerngT. Hi there! :)

@snailboat Hi! So I'm going crazy on Amazon trying to find a good brand for that brush pen

amazon.com/Pocket-Brush-Pen-1-Pkg-Black/dp/B002LJRKN8/…

Is that one any good?

Or do you know what kind they used in the video? Cause really I want that one xD The reviews aren't helpful.... They're mixed for every one I look at. Some people love it, some people hate it...

I can't find a brand that doesn't have mixed reviews

@snailboat Do you have any examples? I can't come up with any.

@snailboat Depends on how you analyze them.

Is it [ほんの [短い間]], or [[ほんの短い] 間]?

@snailboat Missed that. Scrolling through...

heh

I think 少し and 時折 can take ほんの because of the historical development of these 副詞 from what were originally nouns.

少し still behaves in very noun-like ways

(I'm less familiar with 時折 in everyday usage)

ちょっと etc. are certainly outside the bounds of that

and may reflect an underlying shift in how ほんの

is parsed.

but i'm still unclear if these (ほんの短い, etc.) are regarded as formally accepted analyses,

or if linguists would parse these as [ほんの [adj + noun]] such that the ほんの applies more to the noun than to the interstitial adjective.

Daijirin lists 本の as a 連体詞

Shogakukan lists it as a 連体詞, but also as a 連語.

presumably that's from Martin

aaha

I'd always viewed 少し in that context as a noun.

much as the English, "little bit"

少しは食べたけど。。 etc.

少しもない

granted, は and も can show up between adverbial forms and endings, c.f. 少なくもない etc.

but in terms of semantics, 少し often seems very noun-like.

it does come across that way.

ちょっと < ちっと < ちと, where ち seems to be the same root as in ちいさい

と working here as the particle