はい。それは安全です。

hope that makes sense...

@EiríkrÚtlendi

Does this work? (Thank you for the compliment）。。。 私の友達足し

Maybe, going off my memory from 8 years ago and the translator seemed to like that of the two mental rhymes better. tomodachi (friends) helped me is what I want to say

tomodachitachi == friends! lol

I tried ともだちだち　and that was wrong!

OK.

I recognize 私

@snailboat, Austin too, I was referring primarily to the text of the URL itself... o.O

SFW, good to know. :)

I knew what you meant too! I thought the same thing...

あんじょする　？For ともだちたち

I have a few reference books, and maybe one textbook.　I would have to see if I can find that one.

What about たすける

Any better?

Sorry for that extra kanji.

Sorry.

私のともだちたちはたすける

I found the textbook. Japanese for College Students from Creighton University (Which I did not attend)

My sense is that たすける is more like "help, in the sense of rescue", whereas てつだう is more like "help, in the sense of lending a hand". So if someone is in trouble with their boss and you pitch in, that might be たすける. But if someone just needs help moving a desk across a room, that would be てつだう.

Just looked it up in a JA thesaurus. Here's what it says:

「手伝う」は、自分が相手と共同で事を行うような状況を作って、その相手の行為を遂行させるために手を貸すような場合に用いられる。これに対して、「助ける」はあくまでも‌​従たる立場に立って、主たる者の行為に手を貸す場合に用いられる。

こわいい

(translating, one sec...)

"Tetsudau" is used in cases of creating a situation where one is working together with another, and lending a hand in order to carry out another's action. Meanwhile, "tasukeru" is only used in a subordinate role when lending a hand to a superior's action.

たう I haven't seen much.

And だう

？

Tetsudau is a more recent compound than tasukeru. The te and ta in both are 手 "hand".

I am just thinking, I don't know how to pronounce だう、It sounds odd to me.

The tsudau part in tetsudau is from 伝う{つたう}, "to go along", "to go via", "to following along the edge of something".

/da u/

I'm not fully certain why tsutau turns into tsudau in this compound.

Yes. But it doesn't seem to blend in　だう　Like the vowels in say ない　をうｌｄ

There's a phenomenon called rendaku en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku but that should produce -zutau, not -tsudau.

maybe euphony, to avoid three "T" sounds in a row?

したがう　I can read fine, must need more tongue training with だう

@snailboat - Yes you are 100% correct. I am going through the book now, page 41... I never opened this book before and the previous owner had tiny hand writing...

@snailboat thanks again on hitobito

@snailboat - みな人、yes probably. I know みなさん　and was under the impression mina could be used in other ways too.

@snailboat yes, thank you. (Sincerely) I plan to lurk here and ask a ton of questions though if it doesn't bother anyone too much.

I enjoyed the conversation from @Chocolate last night for example.

Oh, sorry to hear you haven't beaten that illness yet.

Hey, that's fine too. Really I think that is what broke me last time though. I studied a ton (Learned hiragana in one night, 300 ish Kanji in a couple months) and then was sort of burned out even with the short conversations I was having. I had nightmares and woke up with weird words in my head, or I was stranded in a Japanese airport...　にんじん。 I woke up one night and couldn't sleep because the only thing I could think of was ninjin and I didn't know what it was.

Yes, I went to work that day and asked a coworker from Japan. She gave me a very weird look and told me carrot.

Agreed, The basic structure (noun) wo (verb)[masu, mashita, masen] is easy enough, but complex sentences certainly elude me right now.

And yes, にんじん　will never escape me again!

にんじんをたべまう！！

What is the ~ for?

So similiar to the - in katakana?

Wow, what a versatile little mark!

An oddity of a question perhaps, but when speaking in Japanese with a Korean, is 韓国　offensive in the least?

@AustinFrench I recommend you buy "A dictionary of basic Japanese grammar"

and use the sentences in that. You can download the sentences already compiled for study for anki too if you choose to use that

I *might have one. I need to go find all my old books....

I downloaded Anki, but for some reason they decks seem to max out at about 8-20 cards...

Despite the title saying thousands

that's going to be your new words per day

you can change all those settings

And a beginner's Japanese Script.

@snailboat A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar - 1 used starting at $160!

amazon.com/A-Dictionary-Basic-Japanese-Grammar/dp/4789004546/…

They changed all of the colors

I have the older edition of the basic grammar one and when I bought intermediate and advanced they had been updated

I'm pretty sure the shade of yellow is different

and I believe they changed the typeface on the cover, didn't they?

Yeah, I think I have the one on the left

Mine is very different

compare these:

just a difference in how the pictures were taken, I guess..

the top one in this is slightly lighter/purpler

But I won't clutter up chat with huge amazon links ;)

now make sure he sticks with it

Thanks all, I will watch for that book.

残　って、どんなに拡大しても、横、２本線しか表示されないのね

あ、「浅」もやん

へ～

何で３本じゃないんだろう？

ここは３本だ・・

私のパソコンのせいかなあ・・・？

@Chocolate I think this is an issue with the font that your computer uses. 残 is 新字体 for 殘. The Chinese simplification 簡体字 should only have two, not three horizontal strokes:

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%88%8B

@Earthliŋ まいんごっど！だんけ～

ほんまや！今見たら

三本になった！

@Chocolate ゲァネ.

@Chocolate マジックじゃ

マジックｗｗｗ

海豚しかよめない

鯱と泥鰌も読めた!

Happy 1100th day in beta, everyone!

@Chocolate let's see.. 海豚, I thought the second one was related to 鱸.. but nope. 海豹, 鯱, 鱶, 公魚, 泥鰌

I feel like I know the third one

膃肭臍！

ahhh yeah I thought I knew that one too, just remembered

third one I swear I know it..

it is 猟虎！！

But that kanji was way down on the list. Google wants me to use 海獺

Now to add the rest of these to my list B-)

@snailboat Isn't it more commonly just シャチ？

oh I guess they're different things

I don't like where they do that thing where the same kanji is either a common animal with one reading or a mythical creature with another

it also gives me 海猟

I do quite love it

I'm interested in giving atok a try though

I always just type ha directly in that case. Is there some other way?

I think that one could have been salvaged into a non-IME question

I assumed as much but this question made me wonder

ditto for the particle を

oh yeah; I don't type that as much

@snailboat ああ、そうだった。。。

@ssb 一瞬「のうしゅよう」かと思う

「氷下魚」は氷の下の魚、だから・・・「わかさぎ」かな

小学館によれば「わかさぎ」が「公魚」で、

@Earthliŋ 「泥鰌」は、泥の中にいるマス？　ムツゴロウ、とか・・・

@EiríkrÚtlendi ひええ、わかさぎがおおやけの魚？

「氷下魚」や「氷魚」の読みが「こまい」だって

わかさぎの語源が知らないけれど

こまい・・・？初耳だわ・・・

不思議に思う

nihonjiten.com/data/45603.html --

「香魚」っておいしそう

氷下魚。他のタラ科の魚に比べ小さいため、「細か（コマカ）」の意とする説、「マイ」は、魚類を表す接尾語「メ」の転とする説がある。｢小さな音の出る魚｣を意味するアイ‌​ヌ語からとも。漢字表記「氷下魚」は当て字で、氷を割って漁獲したことから。

「香魚」＞＞「魚の香草焼き」かなと思う

すげえ当て字・・・

「香ばしい魚」と書くけれど「あゆ」と読むらしい

氷(こ) 下(ま) 魚(か)

そのとおり、「すげえ」

あゆ！？

鮎・・

こっちのMS-IMEでは、

あゆ＝鮎

年魚

香魚

阿諛

漢字多すぎるｗｗ

大賛成

「柳葉魚」は、きっと、薄っぺらい葉っぱみたいな魚で、

かれいとか、ひらめとか・・・

あれは「ししゃも」じゃん。。。

マンタとか、エイとか・・・

え

ししゃも＝。。。

シシャモ！？

IMEの失敗

漢字でないわ

ね、「ししゃも」ってもともとアイヌ語だったらしくて、

「死者も」だそうです

「何かの木の葉っぱ」って意味だそう

柳？

柳の葉っぱに似ていたのかな

あら、IMEは失敗するのに、辞典で「ししゃも」をくくってみればやはり「柳葉魚」がでてくる。

おお・・・パソコンに入ってないんだ

「海馬」は、「かいば」に決まってる！

ほら、脳の中にある・・・

面白いイメージ＞＞パソコンの物理的なケースには魚が入ったって

エンゲルハウス島、とかのところに・・・

アンコウもある

すごく醜い魚

鮟鱇

昔は「安庚」

韓国語の「agwi」と語源的な関係がある可能性も

かいば

あんこうってぶさいくなんですか・・・

おおお

そう、そう

ぞっと

@Chocolate 鱒と鰌は違うよ

@Earthliŋ おお！ほんまだ

ます、と・・・

「どじょう」？？

まじ！？どじょう

「泥鰌」と同じ読み

鰌

初耳です

おおおお

（読むときは「初目」？）

初目ｗｗｗ

初めて食べたら初味

ふふふ

初めて触ったら初触

初舌、かも

初めて嗅いだ匂い＝初鼻

だけど、「初聞」じゃなく「初耳」だから、味わったのは「初舌」なんじゃない？

そう、そう

そうなりますよね～

初めて触ったら「初手」

「初鼻」ってどうか気に入った

それとも「初肌」

あとはもうわかんない、のうしゅようみたいなのと、

細い魚、みたいのも

また明日考えよう・・考えてもわからんと思うけど

Particularly this part: その臍（ほぞ）が薬用にされ

So a seal's belly button was an important Chinese medicine ingredient? Sheesh. I know parts of kanpo really work (personal experience and that of others), but some of this stuff just sounds like old-timey witching: eye of newt, navel of seal, ear of bat...

Speaking of etymologies and fishy words, just stumbled again across 海象. The seiuchi reading meaning "walrus" apparently derives from Russian сивуч (sivuč) for "sea lion".