Yeah, I said that in a fit of realising I'm a way better programmer than a designer

It's like I took my design goals, reversed them, and achieved that perfectly

Hey, a user has created a new tag (fuseki) and is going through and tagging go questions.

Fuseki seems to be the Japanese term for openings in go, However we already have an openings tag. Is it worth having this tag as well, or should I be rejecting these edits?

curious to see what the general opinion is, particularly @murgatroid99 and @Jefromi

I'm not really sure. Maybe the best solution would be to accept them then set "fuseki" as a synonym of "openings"

would probably work, the user seems to have gone through and updated a boat load of questions so it seems like the term is at least moderately applicable

I was checking to see if it was discussed but could find mention of it in chat or on the meta

I'm fine with us having a fuseki tag

It is not a problem

If there is a thing called fuseki, and it is a thing in go, and there is no other game that needs that tag, everything is OK.

we could merge it but there is no problem here and nothing to fix in doing so, and potentially problems and strife to create in doing so (because "fuseki" may not be equivalent to "openings")

Should tagged questions keep the generic "openings" tag

@Malco Good question to ask on meta

hmm maybe after breakfast....

Do we need both, should we merge them, if we do keep both should questions have both at once, etc

hmm after looking on the meta it seems like there used to be the Fuseki tag but it was merged previously

mind you this was a while ago

I am for re-merging the tags, as I don't believe anything has changed to make the reasons for merging in the past less relevant

I think it makes more sense to make it a synonym. If that had been done in the first place, we wouldn't have to deal with this question again now. Plus, people might actually search for "fuseki" either when tagging questions or when looking for them.

huh, it looks like even I can't unilaterally create tag synonyms. Maybe that's why they merged it before.

Oh, I see. I can suggest the synonym, then approve my own suggestion. Then merge the tags again

weird... well it is resolved now I suppose

Now the tags are merged again and there's a synonym, so this won't keep happening

thanks for fixing it :)

Huh, there's actually a badge for getting your first approved synonym, which I guess is a lot easier as a mod

Noticing that the newest question is tagged One Night Werewolf, no such game exists, the game that all questions with that tag are asking about is One Night Ultimate Werewolf, could create an issue with people searching for their questions on the game.

might be just a way to shorten the tag

would put the full name in the quick tag info

There isn't currently any tag wiki info for that tag, if you know a bit about the game you are welcome to add some in order to help clarify things

@Malco I wrote the wiki info it's pending approval now.

Nice. should be up soon, just need someone else to approve the edit

On BGG, "One Night Werewolf" and "One Night Ultimate Werewolf" show up as different games

I'm not sure yet how different they are

@murgatroid99 If that's the case they definitely need the tag changed, since all questions tagged One Night Werewolf are actually ONUW

Though based on what I see on BGG they are pretty similar,

From a brief look, I think the roles might be different

The question is are they close enough to leave under the same tag umbrella, or do we change the tag currently being used for ONUW to reflect the game it's about. That would also lead us to the same potential issue with the werewolf tag

review queue is acting up for me, it's saying there are suggested edits to review but none appear...

That probably means that either you already looked at them, or there are suggestions you can't review

@Andrew Same as for me, and I believe Murg is correct

No way I already looked at them, I haven't reviewed any edits since early this morning, though curious why it would tell me there are items in the queue I can't view. I thought it could be they had been approved or rejected by enough other reviewers before I got to them, but then I'd expect the red danger notice to vanish between pages and reloads.

are you still getting the alert after refresh?

It is gone now, but it was there through a few refreshes and moving through the pages

about 15 min ago now Dopple approved some tag edits

@Malco Yeah my edits, should it really trigger the queue notifications for my own edits?

those appear in the suggested edits queue but you need 1500 rep to see them

also they were your edits... ya

That's kinda dumb...

well you shouldn't have to worry about it any longer

My understanding is that (I think for performance reasons), the notification doesn't do any account specific checks, it just checks whether there are any pending suggested edits

you now have the rep to see tag edits

:)

@murgatroid99 Maybe, if it does one global check whenever a queue is added to or removed from to see if there are more, caches the results and then returns that to everyone.

still bugs me a bit as a programmer

I think it's more like a database query for the number of pending suggested edits

Yeah same idea, but it only helps performance if it is cached on the site's server, if it's making the query per user, performance won't be hit by adding AND UserID != @UserID

Also of course depends on how the database is structured, but still

Well, how sure are you that it's not because there were pending suggested edits that you had already looked at?

Because checking that would probably require hitting another table and doing an extra join

also consider that they might not really be that worried about fixing it, as it is a small bug that is only accessible to a small subset of their users who are already pretty invested in the site

@murgatroid99 100%

normally you need 2k rep to see edit queue, its only lower here as BCG is a beta site

I almost mistook this question for a magic-the-gathering question

It's like someone wrote a question using strange terminology, and an answer that's straight up wrong (except I'm the one that's in the wrong place)

It showed up in HNQ, and I usually have my view filtered to only show MTG and a handful of other games that we never get questions about

@Rainbolt Aerovistae is an MTG player starting to play YuGiOh, I've seen a couple of people go either way and it helps sometimes to use the terms they are used to.

Oh I know. I'm sure the terms are fine. I was just in the wrong place is all

Just thought it was funny that it was so close that I thought I was in the right place

Sometimes things I think are funny end up not being very funny after I type them