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6:04 AM
Polls are now closed
 
wat
@WheatWizard where?
 
Everywhere
There are none left open
The last ones closed in Alaska 6 minutes ago
 
wat
wat.
trump will win :(
 
people can still vote if they are in line but the polls are closed
 
6:17 AM
Nebraska reinstated their death penalty.
 
wat
wat
tthat sucks
 
Good lord
 
wat
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wtf trump won alaska
 
Trump is still winning, now expected to win.
 
Alaska to trump is not an upset
 
wat
6:32 AM
@WheatWizard ya ik
@HelkaHomba do you like my new username?
holy shit 6 seats left for trump
 
6:47 AM
NBC holding back as other news networks are moving Pennsylvania to Trump. Still TCTC IMo.
 
Did you guys just...?
@Downgoat can I laugh now? :p
 
How could this many polls be wrong
 
FYI, the people who tried the coup in Turkey support Clinton.
 
FYI, this coup was organized by Erdogan and wasn't a real coup
 
No, it was like 1953 Iranian coup that turned Iran into hell.
Erdogan wants the same thing too, but Gulen wants the presidency.
 
6:59 AM
Q. What's worse than a Trump presidency?
A. A Trump presidency with republican majority in both houses of congress, along with a freebee supreme court spot that the senate has so slimily reserved for him.
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7:12 AM
Wall Street Journal just called Pennsylvania for Trump: wsj.com/livecoverage/2016-election-day-results-live-analysis
 
7:36 AM
The US managed to outdo the UK with their Brexit, I'm impressed
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Yeah, after the UK and Brazil the US were just hoping to join the 2016 trifecta, and it looks like they're doing a great job at it
 
I express my deep sympathy to any American here
 
Reports from NBC that HRC called Trump an hour ago to concede
NBC still stands by their analyst and refuses to call it.
Call confirmed. Trump is President
 
Prerecorded laughter
 
8:07 AM
One of the answers in the Times' cryptic today is GERRYMANDERING. Can't tell if the setter's secretly trying to make a comment...'
 
8:33 AM
Thanks Obama!
 
Trump has majority in house, unfortunately
 
 
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10:02 AM
If it helps anyone, vowels are red, consonants are blue. — mbomb007 19 hours ago
Trump's won, I don't know what to do.
 
 
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11:39 AM
When the gerrymandering hits
Democrats have more votes
 
12:11 PM
The election was hacked!
 
@KritixiLithos It was the lizard people from russia ;-)
 
Yay donald won
 
One of Germany's most reputable newspapers published an editor's comment today which contains many extreme insults towards Trump. I don't agree with the political course of Trump, but that is really low and bad journalism all around. It got over 900 comments from readers in less than 4 hours.
 
@mınxomaτ Indeed, lizards are very cold-blooded beings :)
 
 
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2:13 PM
@TuxCopter WAT
 
Why wat?
 
> 9/11 never forget
11/9 always regret
@TuxCopter ;_; yu sai dis
 
I don't come from the US but I think Donald is at least better than Hillary
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@TuxCopter Same here, but I'm from out of country too.
 
unless you're a non-disabled, non-veteran, white male, there's at least one nasty thing trump has said abiut you
 
2:16 PM
What concerns me is that he doesn't have any Democrat majority to hold him in check at all. We'll have to hope the Republican house and Senate will hold him in spite of being the same party.
 
i mean literally every core principle of america he opposes
free press, no cruel unfair punishment, acceptance of who is elected, etc.
 
@jonesarah so you're saying it's only a minor issue to be under FEDERAL INVESTIGATION? Yikes
 
@TuxCopter Trump is under federal investigation more than once
he bribed a judge out of it too and later bragged about it
Later this month his university is having trial for fraud
 
@anonymous2 a lot of people in the Republican party didn't support him either, they got fucked twice in a row
 
FBI literally has nothing to say why they reopened the case
And week before election is oddly suspicious
 
2:19 PM
#ILLUMINATI
 
America needs day of mourning today
 
Flags at half mast?
 
Kaz
@anonymous2 Trump is not a Republican. Best example ever of a Republican-In-Name-Only. The party establishment hates him.
 
You reap what you sow
Trump to an outsider is a complete american stereotype
 
@Fatalize ;___________;
 
2:21 PM
Americans don't want any change basically, so you get someone raised 100% with the values of your country
 
@Fatalize I guess I'm not an outsider.
 
@anonymous2 yea. In honor, of everything lost through hate
 
Okay, I'm dropping out here. Just wanted to see what things were doing in here. Not being a US citizen, I shouldn't throw too much gas on the fire.
:)
 
@Fatalize ok, it is another problem if outsider have such low expectation
@anonymous2 trump is like nuclear bomb hanging by a thread over fire
 
2:45 PM
What I'm hoping happens is that the "Christian" and "Republican" circles overlap less in the near future because of this.
 
whaddup party people
 
Personally I don't think it's gonna be that bad
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@Skooba Colorado's gonna have open primaries next time around, that's what!
 
@Shog9 I welcome competition in the political process! FPtP and ingrained party lines created this mess.
 
I definitely think the best solution here is to change the voting process. STV (which I saw was already mentioned) is definitely something I'd like to see happen.
 
2:52 PM
The way I see it, either it's a massive failure and we get a reversal in 4 years in congress and president, or they don't screw up and prove most people wrong who have doubts.
 
@Skooba yep.
 
I personally am expecting the former.
 
@Yodle i agree that the latter is a likely outcome
with a majority in all branches, if they can not get things done it would be utter failure and they deserve to lose every seat they currently hold
 
well, if yesterday proved anything, it's that even an educated guess as to the future still amounts to divination. I'll take my chances & be surprised either way.
 
@Shog9 to me it proved farmers, coal miners, and other middle america people don't really do polls :P
 
Kaz
2:55 PM
Perhaps Politicians, the Media, and the rest of "The Elite/Establishment" could start listening to the concerns of half the country, taking their grievances seriously and actually doing something about it, rather than dismissing them as stupid, ignorant racists. That would probably help.
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@Shog9 I actually expected Trump would win the presidency when I saw him smash the primaries. I guess I have the gift of prophecy!
 
Kaz
Just a thought.
 
maybe people will not blindly trust the media as much
 
I feel like hillarys spin team with some media backing did to good of a job
watching cnn for the last 3 months you would think it was going to be a landslide
why bother to vote /shrug
 
@Skooba heh... I spent about a week driving around Pennsylvania recently; nothing but Trump signs. The question boiled down to, "how much can the richer cities swing things?"
 
2:57 PM
and trump voters knew to get out and rock it
@Shog9 PA is good place... (tis where I reside)
 
@Skooba oh yeah? Well, shucks, I'd have bought you a beer if I'd known.
 
@Shog9 haha, I bet. Try to turn me to the dark side
 
well, I'm sure y'all have light beer somewhere even if I mostly drank porter while I was there
 
@Shog9 Yuenling... always. they even make a light these days.
 
y'all have rootbeer stands by the side of the road, the way folks might sell lemonade elsewhere. Interesting place.
 
3:09 PM
Well, IMO it is the second best state
 
@El'endiaStarman Google predicted Trump, too.
Cool, absolutely cool.
 
any chance hillary runs again in 2020?
old bitty pressy lol
 
3rd time's a charm
 
@Skooba 99% sure probably not
 
@Downgoat yeah age it really a factor at this point
 
3:17 PM
I can't see her running again. I mean, she could try, but I don't think she'd get past the primaries even if she did.
 
Kaz
@Skooba Given her health, I'd be amazed. I was a long-time skeptic of the conspiracy theories around her health. Then I saw the video of her "fainting" that time at the 9/11 memorial. It wasn't so much the sudden spasms and complete collapse that convinced me ("pneumonia" my ass), but the utterly smooth, practiced routine of her entourage. She's done that before. A lot.
 
@Kaz i mean she would be what roughly 74. just from an objective stance that is going to hard on someone
 
@Kaz I'm not so sure. I've been part of escorts before, and it's not hard to predict/react to something like that, as long as they knew she was feeling faint already. It doesn't look so much like a sudden thing, as they were already surrounding her waiting for the vehicle. So the smooth reaction doesn't surprise me much.
 
Obligatory CGP Grey: youtube.com/watch?v=zcZTTB10_Vo
 
those were good videos
godspeed everyone
 
3:47 PM
@El'endiaStarman I don't think the problem is the voting process, I think it's just that the people whose votes matter the most are super uninformed.
That's inevitable to some extent but
 
Hmm, that's a good point.
 
Hackers have hacked the election
 
@quartata Your system is ridiculously convoluted and also only 1 turn
 
Even educated middle class folk don't know the full situation sometimes. No one wants to spend a month reading about all the propositions and reading all the stuff on both presidents.
And no one can be expected to keep their facts straight in this seething mess that is our media. I overheard a conversation two days ago where two educated Bernie supporters were talking about stuff on Hillary that had been proven false quite a while ago.
@KritixiLithos Sounds like something Trump would say :P
Anyways, I don't really want to think or talk about it anymore. See y'all in 2020 I guess?
 
All I can say is I'm glad I'm no longer in the military. But I'd feel that way whoever won, so...
 
3:53 PM
@quartata I'm just being logical
@Geobits Did you see my comments on your Lua answer?
 
Yes... I responded to them.
 
@Geobits That's another thing I'm curious about. How much power will Trump actually have? A lot, clearly, but how much will the other parts of government resist him?
 
Well most of congress is the same party as him, just depends on if they accept him or not
 
Remains to be seen. While he has a majority in both chambers of Congress, it's clear that not everyone within his party likes him at all.
 
Assuming he even gets into the White House, considering the court cases pending against him.
 
3:56 PM
I'm mostly worried about the things he'll say and things that won't get done than the things that he'll do.
 
@quartata True, not sure how foreign relations are going to go now. Putin seems rather pleased though, so at least there's that?
 
@El'endiaStarman Those won't matter; he's been tried in the court of public opinion for almost 30 years
I still remember how Bloom County ended with him "buying" the strip
It seemed so funny
 
But if the FBI finds out who hacked the election before Jan, Trump will no longer be president
 
-_-
 
Dude, no one hacked the election.
We all underestimated the rural communities is all
 
3:57 PM
You never know
I'm pretty sure you can find other evidence about the election being hacked
 
I don't think articles saying it's possible count as evidence. I'm not saying it's not possible, but meh.
 
It could be possible
 
It could be lizard people from beyond Neptune. That doesn't make it likely.
 
Conspirationists are even more annoying than the Trump subreddit people
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the wat o_O
 
@TuxCopter The US 2016 presidential election was hacked
 
Why?
 
@TuxCopter Corruption, of course.
What a question!
;)
 
You'd think that after a year of fact-free reporting, we could refrain from claiming wild things with no evidence supporting them.
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2 hours ago, by TuxCopter
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4:09 PM
I'm not saying that the illuminati hacked the elections, I'm saying that some sort of organisation, like the Fancy Bears, might have done the deed
 
Yes. That's the kind of wild claim I mean. Exactly that.
 
But the Fancy Bears were real, just like the organisation that hacked the elections
 
Lizards and Neptune are also real(!!!!!!)
 
well Neptune is real :p
 
Stop with your conspirationist theories
 
lizards too. Lizards from Neptune though...
 
Well let's see if the hackers are caught in a few months' time
 
Technically the electoral college hasn't voted yet, so nobody has actually won until December.
 
yeah and if they're not caught it's another conspiracy right? lol
 
@Fatalize Well of course! You can't have it known that the election was hacked, cause it would undermine the blah blah blah...
 
4:15 PM
@Geobits Definitely the turtle people.
Don't trust trichoplax
 
taste like turtle
talk like people
 
@quartata He did go red recently. It's all making sense now.
 
:P
Seriously though that just cheered me up thanks @Geobits
 
Unrelated: I find it pretty funny that the GOP is colored red in the results. Here red is used exclusively by socialists and far-left parties
 
@Fatalize Really?
 
4:17 PM
It used to be more common here, too. It changed around 2000 IIRC. They basically flipped colors and it stuck.
 
I used to joke as a kid that I was a republican cause red is my favorite color.
 
@Geobits That was probably more an artifact of the party differences from before the 60s
 
That's one of the conspiracy theories I've seen, also. That it was flipped by "the media" so the red (read:scary) party was the GOP, and the Dems were (soothing) blue.
 
@Fatalize Wow, that's a lot of parties
 
4:18 PM
Right wing also uses red but always with other things, never by itself
@quartata It says more about the parties in the US than in France
 
I see you have a Green Party though so some things do stay the same
@Fatalize Perhaps...
@Geobits Clearly we need them to both be soothing neutral shades of beige
 
Ah, nothing like good ol beige.
 
The thing is with the US's 1-turn system, small candidates basically can't exist
 
@betseg Look at it county-wide. Nearly every county in the U.S. voted for Trump. (Scroll mouse wheel on the map to zoom in to county level) theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/nov/08/…
 
4:22 PM
That's why lots of people want to switch to that voting system where you vote for multiple people, putting them in order of preference.
 
@mbomb007 gerrymandering be like
 
@Yodle Meh.
 
@betseg the county lines don't change. That's districts.
You can't gerrymander counties.
@Downgoat Those are not the core principles of America. America was founded on freedom of religion, right to bear arms, and right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (later changed to property).
 
It's not surprising that he won the majority of counties. I don't think anyone ever predicted otherwise. It's clearly obvious by looking at any map that most counties are rural.
Counties don't matter a bit though, when it comes to choosing a winner.
 
It shows the most of Hillary's votes come from large cities, where the establishment resides.
 
4:28 PM
That's also not surprising... It's like that in every election I've lived through.
 
north dakota has 3 votes for 750000 people (1 vote for 250000 people), california has 55 votes for 40 million people (1 vote for 750000 people)
 
That's usually how it works. The populated urban areas are almost always blue
 
But claiming Clinton is "establishment" while Trump isn't is a bit odd to me.
 
@mbomb007 citing bill of rights is close enough :P
 
It's the sparse rural areas that are very red
 
4:29 PM
So, I took a look at Imgur to see just how much of it was about the election.
Turns out, there's a sea slug epidemic.
 
Wha?
 
@Skooba Not likely. She may be in prison.
 
@mbomb007 I take it you're a Trump supporter?
 
@quartata They're not that sparse. Entire swathes of states are covered by those regions.
 
She wouldn't even win her party's nomination
 
4:31 PM
@quartata Not originally, but that's who I voted for.
 
@mbomb007 As in sparsely populated.
 
@quartata Meh. Large cities are contained in those as well.
@quartata The vote was also for party platform, local representatives, senators, etc.
One man doesn't rule them all.
 
Hillary isn't going to prison any time soon. The only reason Trump ever said otherwise is to rile up the voters. To think this will be the one politician who actually does what he promised during his campaign is laughable imo.
 
I mean people believe him when he said that Mexico would pay for the wall
When there's obviously no way they ever will
 
@Geobits I disagree. There's a lot of admissible evidence of corruption in the Clinton Foundation
 
4:34 PM
You know the GOP has been trying to pin stuff on the Clintons for thirty years right? The FBI already cleared her too
 
@Fatalize did no one ever read his policy platforms. there is cleary a way to do it. and iwth control of all three branches is def possible
 
As for Trump I don't feel like breaking into a /pol/-esque flamewar so I'm just going to leave you with this: reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4teoxl/…
 
@mbomb007 We'll see. But it's not like Trump and Clinton weren't friends before all this. He's openly talked about it in the past, and he'll return any favors he might owe.
 
@quartata Here's why your wrong. The super-informed people are the ones who go to the caucuses, and eventually make it into the Electoral College.
 
4:35 PM
@Skooba To ,build the wall§? Sure. Making Mexico pay? No, why the fuck would they
 
ssssssshhhhhhhhhh hill dawg going to concede
 
@mbomb007 I'd say those are the super-partisan, not (necessarily) the super-informed.
 
@Geobits Nah. I went as a delegate. They're informed people, and they showed themselves to be such, and they were voted into the Electoral College.
It's the ignorant people that don't know that they have a say in the Electoral College that resent it.
 
My experience is a bit different. I know a few delegates here (on both sides), and they were spitting idiocy as much as anybody else I met.
 
@Geobits Once you get past the local levels and move on the the state levels it's a bit better. The people we elected to Nationals were knowledgeable.
 
4:38 PM
The vote for them was much more "how much can you promise not to change your mind?" more than "what do you know about all this?"
 
I'm sure they were. They aren't the people I'm talking about
 
Kaz
@betseg There's a reason why States get 2 votes regardless of their population. Because you want a president who wins half of the national vote spread across the entire country and not just in the big coastal cities. It was deliberately founded that way and it's worked pretty well for 200 years.
 
@mbomb007 You elected Trump as president; I wouldn't exactly say he's knowledgeable
 
As in, the more partisan the better. But that's Florida, so I can't speak for other places.
 
@Fatalize Talking about national delegates
 
4:39 PM
But no one else is
 
@mbomb007 if your president is not knowledgeable I have doubts that the majority of your delegates are
 
@Fatalize Knowledge doesn't mean a thing if you're corrupt with it.
Trump is breaking down the walls of the establishment.
 
And realizing both side are corrupt to the core is key here.
 
@Fatalize Trump is very smart in that he knows how to entertain and he knows how to appeal to people's fears. Don't underestimate that
 
Why not vote for Deez Nuts then? Knowledge won't corrupt him!
 
4:41 PM
You're right in that he doesn't have jack shit in terms of government experience
 
@Geobits Sure, but WikiLeaks had an open invite for info on Republican corruption. They got none.
 
Trump has openly admitted to bribing politicians for favors. All he's doing is cutting out one level of middleman in the corruption scheme.
 
@quartata Nobody knows what it's like to be president until they are. You're guaranteed to be learning on the job. That's not a bad thing.
 
@mbomb007 giggles
 
He's not "breaking down walls" or any other such thing.
 
4:43 PM
I'd say that being a senator or on a president's cabinet gives you a hell of a lot more experience then selling bottled water and $500 steaks
 
@Geobits We'll see. I want an end to the Federal Govt trying to dictate what should instead be decided at the state level.
 
I thought I said I wasn't going to get into a /pol/ flamewar....
 
@mbomb007 Might as well separate the US into 51 states
 
@mbomb007 You understand you're an extremist in this view point, correct?
If you understand that then that's all that matters
 
If the people actually wanted to break the establishment, they wouldn't have reelected almost every sitting senator. The votes in the senate and house show that #draintheswamp or whatever was a farce all along.
 
4:44 PM
@quartata I'm not an "extremist" if 1/2 the population agrees with me.
 
But 1/2 of the population does not agree with you. That isn't the reason why people voted for Trump.
There are a variety of reasons, and that's probably one for some but not for half of the population.
 
I'm pretty sure most people that vote don't even understand hwo the elections work anyway
 
True. I voted because I want to see Planned Parenthood driven six feet under.
 
since when did states rights become an extermist view.... dafaq!
 
^
 
4:45 PM
@mbomb007 You know that probably won't happen right?
 
Trump should also remove hospitals too
 
The senate is gridlocked
 
@Skooba Roughly 1865 I think :P
 
@quartata Yeah, but I'm not voting for a candidate (Hillary) who supports late term abortions.
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@quartata Not for long.
 
Late-term != 2 months
 
4:46 PM
Oh fuck, I'm not getting into pro-life with you. There is no rational way to discuss this. Goodbye.
 
@Fatalize Hillary supports abortion through all nine months of pregnancy.
@quartata Especially if you'd been aborted. You'd be dead.
 
He wouldn't even have been alive, technically
so no
 
@Fatalize Life starts at conception. So yes.
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@mbomb007 According to your bible, maybe. According to science lol no it certainly doesn't start at conception
 
@Fatalize If people found single-cells on an alien planet, they'd call it life.
It's life.
 
4:48 PM
What is life?
 
@mbomb007 The same way your spermatozoids are life. Doesn't mean it's human life
 
What is a conscious being?
 
@KritixiLithos To the tune of what is love
 
@Geobits Please time out the room.
 
Well, this got even more pointless real quick.
Can we not discuss abortion please? There's no way it's going to end up well.
 
4:50 PM
@Geobits are you saying the conversation should be aborted
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This room was placed in timeout for 10 minutes; this is pointless
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I will see myself out......
 

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