@MoriDoweedhYaAgob, I happen to have a positive perception of R' Maroof generally, though I've never actually had a conversation with him beyond asking about Kashruth at an event which, it turned out, he was supervising, but my impression of him from others has been positive. But what the heck is he talking about at 3:35 through 4:35?? The Ashkenazim don't have a direct line to the Talmud??? Is that what mainstream Sepharadic tradition teaches?
Whoa. (5:46-5:55) Not cool. I give R' Maroof the benefit of the doubt that this was meant as humorous, but it's pretty offensive if taken that way (and it can easily be taken that way).
@SethJ He means (I assume) through Bavel. Ashkenazi tradition is usually assumed to be an outgrowth of Eretz Yisrael Judaism (though I believe Prof Grach questions this as well and assumes they come from some "third yeshiva" in Bavel).
@DoubleAA You're saying (that he's saying) that because "Ashkenazi" Jewry hit Europe earlier that makes their traditions and development of Halachah less valid connected to the Talmud Bavli?
@DoubleAA By the way, it gets worse. I'm listening to more of it, slowing and in pieces.
@SethJ It means their traditions (intellectual and practical) would derive from Eretz Yisrael practice/thought as opposed to Babylonian practice/thought. This could explain why they have more difficulty fitting their traditions in with the Bavli.
There is a lot of scholarship about where Ashkenazi Judaism comes from.
I think the popular theory now is that they moved north from the old communities in "Italy" into HRE.
It is explained here that a Jew cannot lose his 'Jewishness', It seems from this answer that Jewishness is a genealogical status and little to do with religion. So is it possible for a Jew to practice Islam and Judaism simultaneously? Considering the fact that Judaism and Islam are very closely r...
@Ali You have to be more specific. We can only give you Judaism's view of a specific action, not every action required by Islam, because we don't know what those actions are. If you ask about Judaism's view about performing a specific action which Islam requires, then perhaps it can be reopened.
See as per the comments I have already mentioned it
It was also asked in the comments to quote specific practices, so Islam at its minimal requires the Five Pillars and six articles to be followed which were revealed to follow a strict monotheism like Judaism.
When it says an article is "belief in his books", does that include belief in the "New Testament" as divinely inspired?
Incidentally, if I tell you now that I follow the same God as the Jews but I don't require you to do any of the same practices as Judaism, does that make me a sect within Judaism?
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Who came up with the No Offense loophole of:
No offense, but your sweater makes you look fat.
OR
No offense, but if you really think what you just said is true, you're an 'Am HaAretz Gamur MeDeoraisa!
And the list can go on and on.
Who came up with adding...
@DoubleAA Not the new testament but the Injeel which is extinct
This question may cause a person to apostatize from Islam , but it certainly does not cause a person to be apostatized from Judaism. As according to the law , we find the fact that , belief in Muhammad pbuh is not equatable to Idolatry and hence wont demand sacrifice of life as is the case of the law for Idolatry, thus making Islam simply as a sect within Judaism:
Rabbi M. Friedländer in ("Guide of the Perplexed," i., xvii., xxxiii., et seq.), in which Islam is declared to be simply a belief in Mohammed, and that Islam is not idolatry, to avoid which only the Law demands the sacrifice of l…
@Ali, as @DoubleAA said, a question asking about all of Islamic practice is too broad to address. The question has one answer, based on an earlier formation, and since what you want to do cannot be addressed in a single question anyway, I am going to roll back to a suitable earlier version and lock it there. ...
You are free to ask questions about the suitability, within Judaism, of specific practices. You will need to explain those practices, and you should not use the questions as soapboxes to argue for your non-Jewish perspective; if you want to present your view, do it in an answer that can be voted on. (Of course, to be a useful answer it will need to draw on Jewish sources; what Islam says about anything is totally irrelevant here.)
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@SethJ the Ashkenazi school of thought comes from the Italians who were I'm the same position as the Ashkenazim. Italians had their laws/talmud however they lost their traditions and only had books to learn their traditions from. This caused them to read their books but misinterpret the meaning of the laws as they were made in a different time period. This made them apply laws which had the se subject being discussed but were really 2 separate non connected laws becoming laws which did have
Something to do with each other, causing laws to be applied to something which was not meant to be this way causing new leniencies and stringencies to occur
That is why Ashkenazim are so punctual on measurements and so on n so forth. They don't have mesorah for these things. They had to try to Lear. It through the laws and guess estimate and guestimate their answers
also when I say Italians I don't mean Jews. I mean the Christians
I have posted hHachom faur's papers many times here.
go read them
The Italians and Constantinople goyishe scholars invented pilpul which Ashkenazim took for themselves for said reason
@Ali, just as an FYI, I wouldn't recommend citing FailedMessiah.com on this site. That blogger has a very strong anti-Orthodox viewpoint and would not be considered an unbiased and reliable source here
@Fred Indeed, but it means that citing him is not a bad thing per se. Why you would want to go there regularly to read vitriol is beyond me, but if you find an article while searching Google then that's fine.
@Daniel It really depends what he's saying. His anti-charedi bias is more present in his lack of posting anything else than in lying about what he does post.
@MoriDoweedhYaAgob It's hard to follow you because you seem to be treating Ashkenazim as a monolith that you often implicitly redefine both temporally and geographically.
there is a manuscript from Cairo genizah showing propaganda from one of the yashivoth in bovel sent to morocco trying to have them go by the yashivoth of bovel n not yarusholoyim
@MoriDoweedhYaAgob if you can't be bothered to explain what you mean by the terms you use -- especially against the backdrop of your "unconventional" understandings of many things -- how can you expect to achieve communication? It is not on this community to go read things you link to that you can't bother to summarize.
I summarize it well the summary is Ashkenazim are wrong now the examples he brings is for you to read because one shouldn't miss even a word from his paper
@MoriDoweedhYaAgob For someone who seems to base their entire life on one person's writings, you don't seem to have a strong grasp on the details of it all.
@MoriDoweedhYaAgob I'm talking about the requests to explain what you mean by pilpul, yeshiva, and the timeframe question. But whatever -- you sure won't convince anybody if you just keep claiming everybody but you is wrong, and if that's the best you can do, never mind.
@MoriDoweedhYaAgob What do you mean they lost their traditions and had to learn from their books? Isn't this what Hezekiah did? Isn't it what the Bavli does time and time and time again?
@MoriDoweedhYaAgob What do you mean they didn't have a Mesorah for the measurements so they had to try to learn them through the laws? How is that any different from what the Talmud does when things are unknown? You trace it through the Mesorah if you have Mesorah on that specific question, or else you go through the Masoretic methodology to interpret the texts.
@MoriDoweedhYaAgob Lost their Mesorah on almost everything?? Are you crazy? The world changes, and you can either junk everything or you can apply your traditions to your new environment. If you live further to the north where it is rainy and cold on Sukkoth, you haven't lost a tradition because you sleep indoors and only eat in the Sukkah.
@DoubleAA I had a great English teacher once who would have loved for someone to bring that word in to class. He used to reward us with bonus points and honors if we could stump him on Vocab days. Never happened that I'm aware of.
@DoubleAA I've seen some of his stuff on just about every topic, but I'm not a follower.
@DoubleAA Interesting that he promotes "Torath Eres Yisrael" and states that, "In Galuth, whether we like it or not, Torah always becomes distorted." Seems he is not a proponent of Babylonian Torah.
(Inspired by this question)
Who came up with the No Offense loophole of:
No offense, but your sweater makes you look fat.
OR
No offense, but if you really think what you just said is true, you're an 'Am HaAretz Gamur MeDeoraisa!
And the list can go on and on.
Who came up with adding...
I am in chat and I click on "site rooms":
That directs me to:
http://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=judaism.stackexchange.com
BUT if I try to change the URL to:
http://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=mi.yodeya.com
It looks like this:
It has the old beta design and NO chat room...
