Thank you for updating your answer, @Joseph. I think you might be misunderstanding the meaning of the word "חל" in this context. There is often a discussion as to whether a given word that sounds like it could be a name of God actually is, in fact, a name of God (the difference being whether Jews would be allowed to pronounce it as such outside of the formal Torah reading and a few other instances). See, eg, this question. Since "אל" is one of the names of God, I think the purpose in pointing out that the word in this verse is "חל" is to tell us that the word does not refer to God. — Shokhet18 secs ago
The [](/q/###) saved me in that comment -- it came out to exactly 600 characters :)
@MonicaCellio The above-mentioned answer has changed a lot over Shabbos.....I think Joseph actually changed the idea in the answer....and now the logical error he's making is the one discussed in the above comment. What do you think?
Is there a way that we could create a section devoted to practical halacha for the express purpose of limmud Torah? This section would not be meant to supplant our policy of CYLOR, but to give someone with limited time to learn after tefillah.
The idea occurred to me this morning after shachari...
@msh210 @Scimonster how is this a dupe of the cited duplicate question? One asks why he was coming at exactly that moment, the other asks why he was coming any time before Yitzchok died. My question asked how it was coincidentally that when Yaakov headed home, Eisav came. The other asks why Eisav was ignoring his previously stated plan. Am I missing something?
@msh210 @Scimonster For example, the first, accepted answer there does not answer my question (even though the second answer there does. But that doesn't make the questions the same, just related or overlapping.)
@Scimonster I included a comment (was writing it as you wrote that message). But a question should not need to include a disclaimer as to why it is not the same as any other question, if anything more than a cursory reading makes it clear they are not the same.
@Shokhet I did - unfortunately, I only get one vote, for some strange reason. I am lobbying to get it actually reopened, not just voted towards reopening.
I already know that it is forbidden to make a bracha on a stolen lulav (SA OC 649:1). However, i'm not sure if this also applies to making a bracha on stolen food. The difference seems to be that by a lulav, the bracha is on the mitzvah, which is being done with something forbidden. By food, the ...
@havarka and, assuming you are on a computer (as opposed to a smart phone) you can send your messages as responses to previous comments by clicking on the little arrow that appears at the bottom right corner of the message when you hover over it.
@havarka You don't have to, but it makes conversations easier to follow and makes it more likely that the person you are talking to sees that you said something to them.
@Scimonster My family likes the French one -- "Those good old days, where have they gone...." ....but I'm not sure if that's because they actually like it, or if they like making fun of it :P
Can someone here help me explain that the word "חל" means "not-Hashem's-name," and not much else? ....I kind of lost the thread of conversation after my last comment there.
In general, one eating forbidden food does not make a bracha.
In certain cases, foods which are usually assur are allowed to be eaten out of a concern of pikuach nefesh -- danger to life. For example, see Rambam Hilchot Maachalot Asurot 14:14-17.
In such a case, (assuming the person is mentally...
@Scimonster Save you some trouble: I searched the נושאי כלים on all of those Rambams for the letters "ברכ" (which would catch ברכה, לברך, ומברך).....and nothing useful turned up.
There is a prohibition not to be wasteful. There is also a prohibition not to overeat. If a person was full, and the rest of the food was going to go to waste, is it better to discard perfectly good food, or better to overeat in order to not waste?
In order that no one attempt to avoid the und...
@Scimonster The answer came a little while later, I think. I left a bunch of comments to the same effect, but no one used any of it, so I just put up a simple answer.
@Shokhet thanks for pointing out the major edits. (I was busy this weekend and hadn't seen yet. :-) ) I can't follow this argument either; he seems to be hung up on cities that are or aren't in eretz Yisrael but I can't discern why he thinks that's important. And, what Isaac said in a comment there.
@MonicaCellio Yeah. There are still missing links in his reasoning (more non sequitor, anyone? ;) ....although there could very well be a widespread misunderstanding of the meaning of "לשון חל" that I'm unaware of.
There is a lot of Biblical Hermeneutics that I'm unaware of :P
@Shokhet well, good answers provide the important breadcrumbs, at least -- and the farther afield it is of the usual Jewish sources, the more important that is. (It seems pretty clear to me that he's repeating citations he saw in a secondary source for, e.g. the talmud, and I would assume he's only seen what was quoted there.)
@MonicaCellio Yeah. I agree with part (a) of his conclusion, but part (b) seems a little unclear.
Also, I've seen some edits on questions, removing KJV (and other) translations for Jewish ones, with an edit summary along the lines of "Jewish translation for a Jewish site" .....should we bother with that on this answer?
@Shokhet wait, you want me to read through that again? :-) If there's an egregious difference (like, if somebody used that other silly "translation" for Isaiah 7:14) then I'd for sure edit. Otherwise, I'm more likely to do so for questions than answers just because they're at the top of the page. But I don't feel it's something we have to do -- if you want to, or if there's a good reason to in any particular case, then go for it. As with other edits, use your best judgement. [cont]
Just my opinion -- others, particularly those who make those kinds of edits more -- should please weigh in.
Wowza. I've only asked 4 questions on C.SE (I mean yeah, I rarely have reason to go there at all), and I just got told that one of them is Famous. (I actually created the account to ask that question.)
@YeZ (Just catching up here in chat.) The newer question asks why Esav was coming then. The older one asks why he was coming then, as he'd said he wouldn't. It seems to me that the newer one is merely a weaker version of the older one. No?
@YeZ But since it has 3 reopen votes and I was nogea badavar when I closed it, I'm reopening it.
@msh210 The evidence that they are different is, like I said, that the accepted answer to the older one does not answer the newer one. The second is asking about the coincidence of his time of departure. The older one is asking about his murderous motives.
@msh210 All due respect to the asker of that question, of course.
There is a prohibition not to be wasteful. There is also a prohibition not to overeat. If a person was full, and the rest of the food was going to go to waste, is it better to discard perfectly good food, or better to overeat in order to not waste?
In order that no one attempt to avoid the und...
