In this question, why was this answer deleted? The answer is a question intended to demonstrate reasoning -- the question asked if Eisav was Jewish, using Yaakov as an example as Jewish by birth, and the answer tried to show the flaw in that reasoning. (Answer text: If Yaakov was Jewish, was it...
@msh210 Yeah, it was clear that something was brewing, as part of GG's global brew, but if I were @IsaacMoses I probably would have left it as a colloquy for exactly that reason.
I see no reason not to approach individual communities, and ask them to publicize.
I mean real world communities, not just online ones - e.g. batei knissiyot, synogagues, yeshivot, etc.
A lot of them have mailing lists nowadays, and some (though not all) would agree to provide their memb...
@msh210 I'm beginning to think this (see my comment on that answer) is kinda crucial. Our stats on A51 are bad, and we need to recruit users. Perhaps an ad in Jewish Action or a similar publication. Should I ask this as a separate meta question?
@WAF I'm not on the "Avodah" listserv at aishdas.org, but am active on a less-trafficked sister listserv on that site. I e-mailed the owner of both and asked him to post an ad for JLL.SE to Avodah. I don't know whether he did so. (He never got back to me, btu I don't want to bug him.) On the smaller listserv I am on there, there was a recnet question about the rarest haftara, so I provided the URL to our question on that topic.
@msh210 I actually heard that that coincidence occurred and noted that you were the bridge. For my part I am not active on pretty much anything anywhere so the only help I can be is cold-contacting.
@WAF Do you have a connection to any of the people on the list of contributors at beyondbt.com? (I do, and think I'll e-mail him today to see if he can plug the site. I don't think he plugs sites, though, so I'm not holding out too much hope.)
@WAF Part of his issue is that a large percentage of his questions have actual quality issues, so he's called on such issues often. The good news is that he participates on meta and seems to have some interest in learning the right way to do things.
@WAF I disagree that this is an urgent issue, but I agree that we should be doing more about it. I, for one, haven't done a great deal on this, other than posting links on reddit from time to time.
@msh210 Targeted advertising on print publications is certainly worth considering. We may even be able to get SEI to foot the bill. Need to identify publications and design an ad.
I was hoping we'd get some real ink as a result of SEI's publicist's efforts reaching out to newspapers and magazines, but have heard of no results from that yet.
... I wonder if the problem is that he's trying to approach all publications with a similar pitch, whereas what we (community members) ought to be doing is making targeted pitches to certain "expert rich" publications (by which I more or less mean "frum"), such as JA.
FYI In the m.y days, I cold-contacted quite a few bloggers and got a few links as a result.
@msh210 OK. Maybe we should start up an initiative in meta: "What publications should we target? With what pitch?" and once we get some ideas there, ask him to cooperate with our initiative, e.g. by converting our pitch into a press release and instructing us on how best to get in touch with these publications.
@msh210 OK, here's what I'll do if no one else does first: 1) Email the publicist by the end of this weekend asking how things are going and introducing this initiative. 2) Wait a day or two for reply. 3) Post a meta question as outlined above, including anything I learn from him. 4) Follow up to him and move things forward depending on what comes up in the meta.
@msh210 Maybe someone in the community will design an ad. If not (or even if so), when we ask SEI for money, we can ask for that assistance as well.
@IsaacMoses One ad idea, which may work with a young (college-age, say) crowd, but probably not otherwise, is to display only the words "mi.yodeya.com" in bold black on white. Just thinking aloud here. Of course, I have no training in marketing, and that could be a terrible idea.
@WAF Yeah, that's a whole nuther can of worms. Truth be told, I sincerely think that advertising, promotion, etc. would be easier and more effective if we had a name
@WAF I own yodeya.com and miyodeya.com and can redirect them (and subdomains thereof) as I please. FWIW, yodeya.stackexchange.com continues to redirect to judaism.SE
@WAF One potential issue is confusion. We advertise mi.yodeya, and a user who goes there sees a site that doesn't say "yodeya" anywhere (unless you dig).
If we really want to be contrarian (and possibly confusing), we could start referring to the site as mi.yodeya in all comments about it. "Welcome to mi.yodeya!"
... unilaterally (though supported by communal discussion in meta
@WAF Yeah... I think SE's (Jeff's) position on this is a little silly. "Coming up with a good name is really hard, so until your site is already huge, no matter what name you come up with, you're going to have to settle for this non-name."
Perhaps now's seriously the time to start arrogating control of this to ourselves. Advertise (on our own, if necessary, perhaps with some donations from the community) as @msh210 suggested. Put a note in the FAQ about "Why do I seem to think this site's name is mi.yodeya?" (But continue for now to refer to it as J.SE on the site.) That could help us a) get more people in and b) bolster our attempt to get the "graphic name" of the site to be m.y when the time comes for that (BV"A).
... I'm starting to like this ad concept. I like the name, and I think it's potentially intriguing on its own. Trying to describe what SE does in an enticing ad is hard. (Believe me, I've tried.)
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