What's going on here?

how is the question from two days ago, but alex's answer from 2011?

@SethJ Had the same thing with the ovens at my school's Hillel

two years in a row

@Daniel Check the revision history.

@CharlesKoppelman :-)

@msh210 courtesy ping ^^^. With a merge somebody's going to lose an answer acceptance; are we concerned about that? (I'm assuming not, but wanted to ask.)

@MonicaCellio, @msh210, @DoubleAA, care to edit this tag (per the updated wiki)? judaism.stackexchange.com/tags/kavana-intent/info

My only issue with the above is that it should probably also incorporate Mitzvoth Tzerichoth Kavanah.

But that's a wiki edit, not an edit to the name of the tag.

@MonicaCellio IMO we're not concerned about that.

@SethJ I don't much like that wiki -- neither before nor after the edit. But I can't articulate why.

Maybe just because it should be more in English rather than jargon.

@msh210 That's true. But the point of the wiki edit was to narrow the applicability of the tag and avoid confusion with the similar-sounding tag. And he left a comment in the wiki suggesting a change to the tag itself to further prevent confusion.

Where should questions about intent to perform a mitzva go? I can't check now but suspect they may be split between the tags.

@msh210 They very well could be. I think they ought to be under this one. The other seems to be about concentration (I think).

Isn't that also concentration though?

Anyway, I've gtg. Have a good Shabas, and, if this isn't resolved before then, I hope to think about this more after Shabas.

@msh210 Depends on how loosely you want to define the English word. The Hebrew word, I think, has much broader application in this regard than the English word. The English seems to span a broad range of meanings as well, but kind of in a different direction (juice concentrate, concentration camps, etc.).

@msh210 You too.

@msh210 I looked at that in the edit queue last night and punted; too little of it was comprehensible to me, but I didn't know how much of that reaction was me vs. a general problem. I think our tag wikis should always clarify terms with English translations, since people may type tag names using English and land there via synonyms. Also, general accessibility.

I'm also not thrilled with wikis containing meta-comments like "we should do X to this" -- do or don't do or bring it up on meta or in chat, but putting it in the wiki feels off.

@MonicaCellio I think the meta-comments in this case were because he couldn't figure out if/how he could change the tag itself (I couldn't either).

@SethJ thanks for the meta question. (My last comment wasn't meant to be a specific command, but I'll take it. :-) )

@MonicaCellio I think we were working at the same time.

@SethJ I don't think we have a way to rename a tag directly; I think you have to use the new tag and then merge or something like that.

@MonicaCellio Mods, too?

@SethJ looks like. I'll have to check, but I think the most efficient way to rename a tag is to create the new tag (by tagging a question with it) and then using the merge tool (mod-only I think) to merge the existing one into the new one. Merge != synonym. (The merge tool's UI is not completely clear to me; I always have to search MSO before doing this.)

^^^ semi-viral video on how to celebrate Thanksgivukkah. Cute but not germane to anything discussed above.

@realz sholom 3aleicham wara7ameem ubarocho shal Alloheem

@MonicaCellio We can rename -- it's in the merge dialog, but it's really just a rename. No need to have the target tag exist first.

@MonicaCellio I agree completely. I was going to reject the suggested edit for that reason, but then realized that the idea would be lost, possibly forever, which would be a shame.

@MonicaCellio I agree completely.

@msh210 wow, double complete agreement -- what a great way to go into Shabbat. :-)