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TRiG
TRiG
12:48 AM
And, once again, some people are strange.
 
 
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msh210
msh210
4:11 AM
@Yishai I thought that's precisely what he meant, but the answerer differs. I guess we should close it? It has no closure votes.
@Fred Thank you very much! Tizke l'mitzvos.
 
 
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Yishai
Yishai
1:41 PM
@msh210 If I could have, I would have voted to close as a duplicate, but since that question had no answers, I couldn't. There is no way to know for sure without knowing what Plaut says.
 
 
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Daniel
Daniel
3:31 PM
@TRiG I wonder if this is an example of some weird wires being crossed
Heshy Fried (the person quoted in the article) is the blogger behind a Jewish comedy blog
"The rabbis said that the yeshiva boys shouldn’t come out for this because of what they would see at the parade" is exactly the kind of quote that he would make
I wouldn't be surprised to find out this is an example of someone taking a satire article and republishing it thinking it's real (like occasionally happens with The Onion)
 
Isaac Moses
Isaac Moses
@Daniel The first and last names are both spelled differently in the article, but maybe this was really him trolling the NYT and the world.
 
msh210
msh210
@Yishai Ah, I forgot about that restriction (on closing as duplicate without answers on the older one).
Well, more accurately, I didn't think to apply it here. Whatever.
 
Daniel
Daniel
3:47 PM
@IsaacMoses Yeah I noticed that
 
msh210
msh210
@Yishai I've commented and closed as unclear.
 
Daniel
Daniel
still wouldn't surprise me
It's also entirely possible that some PAC actually did hire day laborers to protest and the Frum Satire guy just managed to get his quote into the article
If I were him and trying to do that, I would spell my name wrong so that a quick Google search wouldn't give me away
 
 
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msh210
msh210
6:25 PM
@SethJ @DoubleAA @IsaacMoses More on that SHA-tu / sha-TU business: I just read that R. Yaakov Kamenetzky (spelling?), in Emes L'yaakov (precise citation unavailable), gives a rule for when such a word should be milra contrary to (my) expectations and when it should be mil'el.
 
Menachem
Menachem
Just saw this: io9.com/…
 
Isaac Moses
Isaac Moses
@msh210 Каменецкий
@Menachem I wonder if Murex tunculus could be similarly "milked" in a way that makes the techeilet industry more sustainable and reduces costs. IIRC, although they live off the coast of Israel, it's illegal to harvest and kill them there, so Tekhelet has to get them in Africa. Perhaps, however, they could be farmed and milked off the coast of Israel.
@Menachem How'd you come across that?
 
Menachem
Menachem
@IsaacMoses: Showed up in one of my RSS feeds
 
Isaac Moses
Isaac Moses
@Menachem Well-spotted.
@IsaacMoses Correction: They get them from Croatia. (Second Q&A here.)
Looks like Tekhelet is, not surprisingly, aware of this property of the Mexican snails. This page of science clippings includes: "The hypobranchial gland of the muricid Plicopurpura pansa (Gould,1853) is so active that the snails can be stimulated periodically without harming them to expulse the secretion. This property is a great advantage in the study about its biologic and chemical characteristics." from a 2005 article in Journal of Shellfish Research.
I emailed them for confirmation. I'll report back here and/or on Mi Yodeya if I learn anything interesting.
 
 
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Isaac Moses
Isaac Moses
8:22 PM
From R' Mois Navon:
> Thanks for the interesting article. First of all it seems that even this Mexican snail can not readily be milked and so was killed for its dye when they really wanted quantities in a reasonable amount of time.

> In any case the murex to the best of knowledge does not spew out its dye though I have noticed in my fish tank that at times it releases some wisps of purple. But anyway you need to kill it to cut out the gland and get the die in a reasonable amount of time while getting a reasonable amount of dye.
 
 
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Menachem
Menachem
9:46 PM
Has anyone here tried Rav Meir Pogrow's Master Torah program? mastertorah.com/newsite/general/home.php - If so, I'm interested in what you thought about it.
 
Yishai
Yishai
10:20 PM
Meta is down for me. Anyone else?
 
 
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Shmuel Brin
Shmuel Brin
11:50 PM
@Menachem It takes time. A lot of time
Let's say you're doing Daf Yomi. That's about an hour a day. Now, for Daf Yomi you have to spend close to 4.5 hours a day. It went from being "OK, I'll finish Shas in 7.5 years" to "I'll finish Shas in 34 years".
 

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