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4:07 AM
One other thing we need to clarify: I'm not thinking about doing this -- this is a purely theoretical question. — Shokhet 1 min ago
sure it is, sure it is — YeZ 1 min ago
@YeZ ........ shakes fist
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YeZ
4:29 AM
@Shokhet Someone had to say it.
 
@YeZ "sure, sure" ;-)
 
boo
 
YeZ
@SabreTooth Ahh!
I thought you were extinct!
 
indeed!
 
YeZ
@SabreTooth And I always pictured you as much more fearsome looking.
 
4:34 AM
we've just been hiding
i am a sabre tooth kitten
 
YeZ
@SabreTooth like the dinosaurs in Dilbert?
 
yes! Bob rocks!
 
Oh, hello @SabreTooth. I went to a different window, and found 7 messages on this tab. I wasn't expecting that.
 
YeZ
@SabreTooth I was always partial to Rex.
 
@Shokhet gday
@YeZ he rocks too
 
4:36 AM
@SabreTooth What time is it by you? ...I'm actually going to sleep now.
 
YeZ
@Shokhet And I in 3 minutes.
 
@Shokhet it is 2:40pm tomorrow
 
YeZ
@SabreTooth If sabre tooth tigers are still around, they'd have to be on the other side of the planet, of course.
 
@YeZ and in the future
:19547082 lol, tis cool
 
YeZ
OK gotsta go, welcome to Vdibarta Bam!
 
4:40 AM
maybe it's time I did actually go to sleep......too tired to math, right now
 
@Shokhet lol
 
@SabreTooth (disclaimer: I wrote that answer)
 
have a good rest all!
@Shokhet good answer
 
5:31 AM
@DoubleAA, My goal is to make an as broad as possible question that is in-scope. I'm thinking that someone might want to know about a Yartzeit or Birthday as a legitimate Jewish question, even if it isn't currently commemorated. For example, no one to my knowledge commemorated the Rambam's birthday until the Lubavitcher Rebbe set up the first cycle of Rambam study to complete on that date, but even without that having been done (yet) knowing the Birthday of such a person would be of Jewish interest (it seems to me). — Yishai Jan 9 at 15:46
thoughts anyone?
 
 
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7:35 AM
@Shokhet How come you changed your username and icon?
 
 
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10:25 AM
@MonicaCellio Mazel tov on your badge!
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1:49 PM
@DoubleAA Interesting edge case.
@DoubleAA ... I think we generally disallow requests for random biographical details about rabbis without explicit Judaism motivation. I think the Rebbe could make the Rambam's birthday into a Judaism fact, just as he could make a dollar into a Judaism artifact, but except in the context of his having done so (or some similar conference of significance), they're not a priori about Judaism.
... copied the above into a comment there.
 
I've never seen a comment this tall. How did they do it?
Should $$N/\phi^{k-1}.$$ be $$N/\phi^{g-1}.$$? That seems to make sense to me... — Chris 4 hours ago
Oh...
 
@Scimonster MathML, looks like
 
@IsaacMoses I see, now that it didn't parse.
 
2:49 PM
@SabreTooth Thanks :)
@Scimonster I don't recall exactly, but I believe that was my second SE account, after MY. I figured if my credentials here are that i shecht, my credentials there would be that I tutor. They've gotten used to it already, over there, though I'm not really so active over there anymore. That icon is/was the default SE icon.
Jul 27 '14 at 8:29, by msh210
......Judaism.SE does have a series of questions referred to as "mi-yodeya‌​" for what things are numbered in Judaism [based off of the song "Echad Mi Yodeya," "who knows one?"] if you're interested — Tutor 6 hours ago
 
@Scimonster thank you!
@Scimonster MathJax plus hard returns in the comment, I'd guess.
 
Jul 27 '14 at 12:48, by Shokhet
@msh210 That comment is mine ;)
 
@Shokhet You joined English Language & Usage second.
I stalk you. :P
 
@Scimonster Oh, dear. That is kinda creepy :P
 
Graphic design 3rd; ME fourth.
 
2:54 PM
@Scimonster That sounds about right.
 
@Scimonster why go to the trouble of stalking? You can just look it up on his network profile as needed. :-)
 
@MonicaCellio That is exactly what i'm doing. :P
JK about stalking. :)
 
@MonicaCellio I figured that's what @Scimonster was doing, but I don't see where you can sort accounts by age
 
@Shokhet You can't. I just look at the join date.
Then, i'll open up the account to see more specific dates if needed.
 
2:57 PM
@Scimonster Got it. ....I just got an upvote on a random old ELU question. Whose fault is that? :P
 
@Shokhet I have another couple open, so hold your breath. :)
 
@Shokhet you can't sort them by age on the accounts list, but the reputation graph will show when you started earning rep on each site and you always start with 1, so that gives you the information down to the day level. If you created multiple accounts on the same day you won't be able to tell about the order within the day.
 
@MonicaCellio I only have 1 account that started with 1.
The rest started at 101 for all practical purposes.
 
@Scimonster I think I had two that started at one; IIRC
 
@Scimonster true. For people with the association bonus, s/1/101.
 
3:04 PM
Oh dear....the comments here ended up being much funnier than I originally thought they would be :)
 
@Shokhet made me look. :-) Looks like I got to 200 on Mi Yodeya before creating other accounts.
 
@Shokhet I don't get Fred's first comment.
@Shokhet הא בהא תליא? :) — Fred 10 hours ago
 
@Scimonster הא בהא תליא means "this [thing] depends on that [thing];" but literally means "this [thing] is hanging from that [thing]," which led easily to @DoubleAA's continuation of the line
 
@Shokhet I think now i get it.
 
@Scimonster Fred's original comment was asking if being a surgeon and being a shochet were related to each other.....tbh, almost certainly.
 
3:31 PM
Jan 5 at 16:18, by Scimonster
user image
I think i'll go make some changes now.
Jan 5 at 19:37, by Scimonster
@CharlesKoppelman I can read it... But i think i'll take an actual photo of the three on a wooden table and use that.
 
3:45 PM
How come this has such a low score?
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A: Mi Yodeya Publications

Isaac Moses חנוכה - מי יודע?‏ Chanukah - Mi Yodeya? Real questions and answers to enjoy while your candles burn Download and print (double-sided recommended): We are proud to present our third community publication, a collection of questions and answers from Mi Yodeya that you can print out, enjoy,...

 
@Scimonster all of the answers have sadly low scores. I think it's because when we're promoting a publication that info is in the question, and it only gets moved down to an answer later when people aren't paying attention as much.
 
@MonicaCellio I did suggest otherwise...
in Chanuka 5775 publication, Dec 6 '14 at 17:11, by Scimonster
I know i'm a bit late to the party, but maybe instead of replacing the question with the download links / post, leave the question as-is, post an answer for Chanukah, and accept it.
 
@MonicaCellio @Scimonster what difference does it make what the answer scores are?
 
How does it look?
I'll crop it, of course.
 
@Scimonster Nice! Maybe push them in a little closer, so that they show up larger in the final picture? You don't have to show every word on every cover.
 
4:01 PM
Like this?
 
@Scimonster You could probably get even closer.
 
And is it good to have it slanted like that?
Do the stacks look thick enough? (I can add more paper if necessary.)
 
@Scimonster I think it looks nicer fanned out like that, or even more so. Like a display of magazines.
 
@Scimonster well, that doesn't work for me because we want to be able to spread a persistent URL and I don't want to make people who don't know SE look for the answer (even if accepted). I think the current approach works fine.
 
4:11 PM
@IsaacMoses not a big one. It just seems a little odd to see a 37-score answer with the "payload" (after the fact) being in low-scoring answers.
@Scimonster nice!
 
Trying something a little different.
How about vertical?
 
@Scimonster Best so far. I suggest going with this.
@Scimonster You could do this, with much more overlap, showing mainly the titles of the top two books. Then, crop it to a narrow column and put ad copy next to it.
 
@IsaacMoses Which one to show the most of?
(bottom)
 
@Scimonster Any, AFAIC
 
Is the table clean enough?
 
4:27 PM
@Scimonster Yes, especially at the resolution at which this will be presented.
 
@IsaacMoses But there are scribbles directly to the left of the books!
 
@Scimonster Hard to see at this resoultion. If you're concerned, move the books a little.
@Scimonster I like this one, too.
 
I did this from directly above, instead of at an angle.
On an angle:
 
@Scimonster Better!
 
Is it going to be too small to read in a 220x250 image, where this is only half?
Maybe even cut off the bottom of CMY.
 
4:42 PM
@Scimonster Text clearer; image less attractive. I'd opt for the previous version, cropped down to a minimal margin of table all around.
 
@IsaacMoses I agree.
in Chanuka 5775 publication, Dec 13 '14 at 17:27, by Scimonster
I think the title is a bit small when printed. Worth making it a bit bigger and releasing v1.2.1?
 
@Scimonster Maybe for future pubs.
@Scimonster The Word Doc files are all linked in the project chatrooms. If you want to make improved versions, you can.
 
@IsaacMoses I agree.
 
5:11 PM
So, horizontal or vertical?
 
6:09 PM
@Scimonster sure.
 
@Scimonster FWIW, I think this one was the best shot. That's only my opinion, of course
 
@msh210http://www.rationalistjudaism.com/2015/01/chazal-said-it-first.html Answer tbp
 
@IsaacMoses Enter space to make the link into a link (and, presumably, the ping into a ping)
 
6:30 PM
@Shokhet I gotta stop chatting from my phone
 
6:53 PM
I think that if judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/52736/… were better written and provided better arguments, it could actually be an interesting (if provocative) question.
 
@Scimonster I don't know if he knows what his question is, actually. I would remove my vote for dupe if I could revote as unclear.
Angels on the Ark is another question entirely. I thought I'd seen it on MY before, but I can't find it at the moment. — Shokhet 40 secs ago
 
@Shokhet I cast it. Either way, it's a close vote.
 
@Scimonster Fair enough.
@TRiG raised a good point, there, though of Judaism is still on-topic
Are you asking what Judaism teaches about Judaism or what history teaches about Judaism? If the latter, History SE may be a better bet. — TRiG 22 mins ago
(though of course all answers here would be from the POV of Judaism)
@Scimonster There are two votes for dupe, though. I'll have to leave a correction comment, I think.
Your question is no longer a duplicate, I think, but now it's all over the place. Maybe pick one question (evidence of polytheism, or angels on the Ark), ask it here, and open a new question for the other one. — Shokhet 8 secs ago
......in any event, Fred found a duplicate of his central question. Go, Fred!
 
@Shokhet I think the answers there only address half the question (the old one, not the new dupe). They say no to worshiping, but nothing about belief in their existence.
 
@Scimonster The one I linked to before? .....I VTCed as duplicate on his first revision; the question went everywhere after that.
....I retracted my CV, so that others can vote vote on Fred's dupe
 
7:06 PM
@Shokhet To clarify. Only talking about judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/15780/… now. The answers don't really address the question.
 
@Scimonster They don't address the (separate, IMO) question about the keruvim, but I think they answer the new question's central point as well.
 
@Shokhet I'm not talking about the new question. Only the old one. Forget about the connection for now.
judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/15780/… asks if Judaism ever believed in the existence of other gods, and whether they were worshiped.
The two positively-scored answers only address the part about worshiping, afaict.
This -1 answer touches upon the other part as well.
 
@Scimonster Hm....you might have a point. Unfortunately, I have to go now; hopefully I'll be back later.
 
@Shokhet Alright, TZT.
 
TZT
 
7:11 PM
@Shokhet I probably won't still be here when you get back, assuming it's more than an hour.
 
@Shokhet I closed it as "unclear"; I considered 'too broad" but didn't want to confuse matters further. I left a comment.
If it turns out that his revised question is a dupe then we can handle it then, but until he focuses it I don't think we can declare dupe for a partial dupe.
 
7:49 PM
I want to ask about if Judaism ever recognized other gods (not to be worshiped, just if they exist). Problem is, that's already part of this question. Other problem is, the answers there only talk about worshiping, not acknowledgement. Should i edit that question to only ask about worshiping (not disqualifying the answers) and ask a new one?
@Monica @Isaac, you two are currently in the room. Any thoughts?
 
@Scimonster Ask a new question, nuanced the way you want it, and referring explicitly to the near-dupe, making the distinction clear.
 
@MonicaCellio Fair enough.
You might want to have a look at this page, and this other page from our help center, before asking more questions. — Shokhet 1 min ago
^^^ that might help us a little.
 
@Shokhet Hopefully.
@IsaacMoses Well, i'll act on your advice. It's on your head if it gets closed.
 
@Scimonster I haven't perfected my mind-reading skills yet. How in the world does other religions having animal "scarfice" disprove Judaism?
 
@Shokhet דרכי אמורי?
 
8:03 PM
@Scimonster See the most recent (literally 20 seconds old) edit to that question
....IOW, it's like his other questions -- another religion had it first, and Judaism copied it.
....that's not a kasha on Judaism, but now I think I see where he's going.
 
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Thoughts?
What colors should i use?
 
@Scimonster That's great!
 
@Shokhet Thanks. :)
 
Now I see where you're going with this. I hope you don't mind that I edited your question; if it's not what you intended, feel free to edit further, yourself. I have voted to reopen. — Shokhet 1 min ago
 
@Scimonster Nice!
@Scimonster The colors are fine as they are.
 
8:08 PM
@IsaacMoses I used the image @Shokhet preferred. I'm doing a copy with the one you picked.
user image
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@Scimonster They're both great.
 
@IsaacMoses @Scimonster I agree; I think the first one is slightly better because it's the picture I picked the picture is a little more centered.
 
@Shokhet What i think too.
Playing with vertical formatting, but i don't think it's gonna work.
 
@Scimonster Agreed.
 
@Scimonster Hm. This one is a little crowded, I think.
 
8:16 PM
So which one? Horizontal 1, 2, or vertical?
I think #1.
 
@Scimonster Go for it!
 
@Scimonster The other ads tend to have a thin border around them. Maybe this would benefit from one.
 
@IsaacMoses Not all. Only 2, actually.
 
@Scimonster The answer has my vote. Are you directing the link to s.tk/miyodeya, or to the MYM shortcode link?
 
8:26 PM
@Shokhet The short link, not s.tk
Just hover over it!
 
@Scimonster (I did)
@Scimonster Oh, so why don't you use the s.tk link?
 
@Shokhet No reason.
Does it matter?
I feel like the MYM link is more "secure".
 
@Shokhet Doesn't matter too much in this case, since the s.tk link just redirects, and it's not like people are going to be doing too much right-click, copy link, paste-into-email or whatever.
 
@Scimonster No. It's just the way I would have done it. Means nothing.
@Scimonster That's a fair point.
@IsaacMoses Okay. I was thinking of people hovering and trying to memorize the link, but it's no big deal.
 
^with border
Looks better, i think.
 
8:29 PM
@Scimonster In terms of actual security, s.tk belongs to SE Inc., just like stackexchange.com does. But the shortlink does look a bit less secure
@Scimonster I agree.
@Scimonster yeyasher kochacha!
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8:57 PM
It has apparently already been asked and answered.
Well, it could have been an awkward question anyways.
 
@Scimonster Huh. How'd you find it?
(and maybe you should link it to our new user)
 
@Scimonster Ah. I see. Fred wins again :P
 
Can someone provide this new user with some guidance?
 
@Scimonster I flagged as NAA; I don't have time to coach him, nor do I think it would be effective, given how active I was on criticizing his questions.
 
9:02 PM
@Shokhet So did i.
 
@Scimonster I'm hoping a nice user will find it in the queue. That's usually what happens, actually.
 
@Shokhet I could go comment with the default text. There's always something on in the queue on SO to copy from. :P
 
@Scimonster :)
 
@Shokhet I learned how 10kers always had such high orange queue notifications. :P
 
@Scimonster Ha.
 
9:06 PM
So... chances are that whoever downvoted my answer without commenting is not someone who hangs around on chat, but for the 2-5 of you who do, think you could explain a downvote? Or is that not an appropriate thing to ask here (sorry in advance)?
 
Please take this short tour of Mi Yodeya to see how we're different from other forums on the Internet. We do well-structured questions and answers here, not free-flowing discussion. See also this on how to write good answers. — Isaac Moses 41 secs ago
This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post - you can always comment on your own posts, and once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post. — Scimonster 28 secs ago
 
@Scimonster The tour! Great point, @IsaacMoses
 
@Shokhet Thanks
 
@Shokhet Indeed. @IsaacMoses
 
@Matt Nothing wrong with asking. Not too much value in worrying a great deal about a single downvote, though.
 
9:08 PM
@Matt -1 for tl;dr. JK, wasn't me.
 
@Scimonster never heard that one before
 
@Matt What one?
 
@Scimonster nevermind... thanks for your help....
 
@Matt tl;dr = too long; didn't read. JK = just kidding
 
@Shokhet figured it out
 
9:10 PM
@Matt .....I didn't read that answer yet; I'm not sure I even read the question
@Matt Alright
 
Is there a meta post on editing people's questions to make it coherent, without being entirely sure as to the OP's intent? Is it just a judgement call/
?
 
@Matt BTW, you can edit your previous post by hitting the up arrow. At least, within two minutes.
 
@Matt I dunno. If you don't know what he's asking, and he's still around to answer your questions, then I don't see why you should do that.
If you know what he's asking, then edit, by all means.
 
@Shokhet right (and aarg... you beat me to the ramban... )
 
@Matt Early bird gets the worm :P ....anyone else discuss the question?
 
9:15 PM
@Shokhet FGITW
 
I remember Nechama Leibovitz has a piece on it, I believe that she understood that Rashi/Midrash had a different opinion, which I was going to look at
 
@Scimonster Exactly.
@Scimonster That means I get all the points, right? :P
 
@Scimonster many laughs for "SCITE problem"
 
@Matt FGITW is a bigger problem, because i can't pronounce it.
 
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Q: Should I separate this question into two?

Seth JMy question about usury during Shemittah got derailed by my use of an example of lending physical objects. I am inclined to remove the example (perhaps replace it with a better one), and then ask a separate question about lending physical objects and their status as loans more generally. One per...

 
9:18 PM
@Meta-Man Thanks for interrupting our conversation. :P
 
YeZ
@Shokhet You still get the drive-by votes
 
@YeZ I'll have to get back to rereading the Ramban later, as I have to go now. Sorry!
TZT, everyone!
 
TZT everyone.
 
@Scimonster @Shokhet TZT
 
 
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11:30 PM
Hi @Dan. Message for you in another channel, FYI. (Mentioning because you've mentioned in the past not getting pings there. Not pestering.)
 
Dan
@MonicaCellio still not seeing the ping
@MonicaCellio disregard
 

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