V'dibarta Bam

1:07 AM

Thank you all!

1:20 AM

@SethJ Y'yasher kochacha!

1:43 AM

@JonEricson, hi, there!

Jon Ericson

@msh210 Ahoy!

@JonEricson How are things?

Jon Ericson

Not bad. Just a lazy Sunday afternoon.

@JonEricson If you're on the clock, I want to make sure someone official sees this (and its comments).

Jon Ericson

@msh210 I'll pass it along. (Weird!)

1:50 AM

@JonEricson Thanks.

And, yes, weird.

Monica Cellio

2:26 AM

@SethJ y'yashar kochacha! (And, doing software updates tonight? :-) )

2:46 AM

@Monica ha! No, Daf Yomi mp3 downloads. But thank you.

And thank you, @msh210.

Or Beruchim Tihyu. Or other non-sequiturs.

(I wanted to link to where I made that comment, but I couldn't pull it up.)

3:10 AM

Purim Torah help! I remember coming up with a Purim Torah idea a long time ago, I think I mentioned it here, and now I've forgotten it.

Anybody who's mad skilled at search wanna help me? Or anybody got any good fodder for a topic??

4:00 AM

May 14 '13 at 17:46, by Seth J

@msh210 I support this stance. Remind me at Purim time to come up with a "source". (I have none in mind at the moment, but I can try to come up with one then, given the right motivation.)

@SethJ There's also this but ~~I don't know what it's referring to. And you may have acted on it already (last year. The chat post is older than that).~~ it seems to be referring to your Super Bowl question.

4:19 AM

[OT:] A jockeyed/remixed compilation of snippets from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. Surprisingly, it (apparently) was published by PBS, not by a third party. Worth a watch.

Monica Cellio

4:32 AM

@msh210 mad search skillz, confirmed! :-)

Well, I don't know if that's what @Seth was looking for, but I don't know if I would have found it.

@MonicaCellio I was replying to his question on the assumption it was actually addressed to anyone, not just those he mentioned.

4:55 AM

@Daи, welcome!

@msh210 thanks!

@Daи What's up?

thought I'd stop by and say hi

@msh210 translating for a course I'm taking, revising syllabus for course I'm teaching, and trying to stay awake haha

you?

@Daи Doing nothing constructive at the moment, alas.

@Daи May I ask what languages you're translating from/to? Just out of curiosity.

@msh210 Koine Greek to English

4:59 AM

@Daи The Christian Bible, then?

@msh210 yes

@msh210 I recently picked up a copy of this Oxford Press translation of the LXX

@Daи You may not be aware of this, but it's been translated into English already. Once or twice.

I tend to read the newer JPS translation with Hebrew from the BHS/JPS Committee in the margin, but now hopefully can have the LXX side by side

@msh210 haha really?!?

@Daи :-)

@Daи Oh, I hadn't heard of that. Thanks.

@msh210 it is free on the website as PDFs

the book introductions are great

but what I like about it is its focus on the text as produced rather than as received

5:04 AM

@Daи I know of the BHS Hebrew, but what's "Hebrew from the BHS/JPS Committee"?

i.e. in cases of ambiguity, it defers to the Hebrew rather than looking to how later (usually Christian) commentators understood the text

@Daи That's a Good Thing provided you don't believe in those later commentators' divine inspiration or what-have-you.

amazon.com/Hebrew-English-Tanakh-Jewish-Publication-Society/dp/…

@Daи "This edition adapts the latest BHS edition of the Leningrad text by correcting errors and providing modern paragraphing." I see.

@msh210 well since the LXX was written hundreds of years before Christianity came to exist, I'm far more interested in the translators' intentions than in later (mis?)interpretations

@msh210 yes so it is technically their own Hebrew text, much of the changes are punctuation and paragraph breaks, but occasionally different interpretive/textual decisions

5:07 AM

@Daи Sounds good to me.

@Daи When I use translated Bibles, it's most often to see what that translator says (how he interprets the verse) rather than to see what the verse means.

@msh210 but if online, I prefer the JPS 1917 on mechon mamre

@Daи It's handy.

@msh210 that's often how I am with the Christian Bible, but my Hebrew and Aramaic is not as strong as my Greek

I last took each language over a decade ago, and have not maintained them as well as I should have

@Daи My Biblical Aramaic isn't good, either, but (unfortunately) I've hardly studied the Aramaic books, so it hasn't really been an issue.

Greek on the other hand, I maintained and now have taken more and teach it as well

@msh210 my schedule keeps prohibiting me from attending Hebrew School at the local synagogue

but I intend to go when I am able

5:12 AM

@Daи Why?

they only seem to offer it in January for adults

@msh210 to learn more Hebrew and more about the Jewish faith

@Daи Ah, yes: "I intend to soon attend Hebrew school as a Gentile observer".

@msh210 indeed, only scheduling fell through, and again this year

but I am near Chicago, so I can also look for courses that run there, likely more frequently

@msh210 but the tattoo is still not removed, over a year later and doing laser treatments every 6-8 weeks

@Daи And not necessarily in (or affiliated with) a synagogue. Two other sources for adult learning are organizations called Aish HaTorah and Chabad.

@Daи Quite a process!

@msh210, I concur with @Monica. You're good. I mean, even planning with the ptij to aid with future searching.

<---impressed

5:20 AM

@SethJ I didn't use that in my search. So much for plans.

@msh210 still.

@SethJ Thanks. You should see some of what @DoubleAA pulls off.

(Or even more so.)

@msh210 ... I guess you do see it.

I've seen it.

Ya.

5:22 AM

@msh210 yes I thought it would be gone by now

@DoubleAA - Amazing how fast you can read volumes of responsa. — Fred Jan 4 '13 at 4:54

@Daи Might be easier to sever th... never mind.

@msh210 ;)

@Daи For the Jewish religion, a Jewish source is best, no doubt. For Hebrew, though, I'd think you can sit in on a university (or even a Christian seminary) class, if you get permission to do so.

5:46 AM

@msh210 yes, I took Hebrew in a Christian pre-seminary program initially

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1:18 PM

Oh, ooh! New PTIJ idea!
Is Cholent DeOraitha or DeRabbanan?

Anyone got any ideas for sources?

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Isaac Moses

2:33 PM

@SethJ If only there was some sort of forum in which you could ask a whole community for crowdsourced, communally-quality-controlled answers

Q: Is wearing masks on Purim a Biblical Commandment or a Rabbinic Commandment?

3:08 PM

As we all know, wearing masks on Purim is a Mitzva. Is it from the Torah, or was it only originated in the times of Esther, making it Rabbinic? This question is Purim Torah and is not intended to be taken completely seriously. See the Purim Torah policy.

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Q: Maintaining Hebrew word order when copying from SE to MS Word

When I was typesetting Hagada - Mi Yodeya, I discovered that, at least in most cases, when I copied text from posts here on Mi Yodeya Meta into MS Word, my typesetting tool of choice, the order of words in Hebrew text is reversed. Against the clock, I resolved this issue then by simply leaving ou...

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Monica Cellio

6:46 PM

Hi @Daи! Looks like I just missed you last night. Welcome back.

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